EPT[ASL20] Grand Finals - Page 12
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium7003 Posts
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thezanursic
5500 Posts
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Timebon3s
Norway772 Posts
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Kraekkling
724 Posts
39% WR vs 63% WR | ||
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Rainalcar
Croatia480 Posts
Now he's explaining how Snow just has a poor pvz... If only he were as dominant as... Oo yeah, nobody  | ||
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thezanursic
5500 Posts
Bisu gave Soma a good run for his money. Snow is not. | ||
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thezanursic
5500 Posts
On October 26 2025 19:06 Timebon3s wrote: I think Snows best chances at winning ASL is to switch race to Zerg. If Snow only plays Protoss and Terrans he wins an ASL tbh | ||
Peeano
Netherlands5638 Posts
Seems unfair with how much Zerg can get away with. Makes me curious to hear Bisu's take on this game. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13427 Posts
Soma was clever though. After snow scouts the spure and no den he quickly switches to hydras while zoning the cairs with scourge to prevent the scouting. | ||
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Kraekkling
724 Posts
I don't need it but I want free shit | ||
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End1ess
Canada77 Posts
On October 26 2025 19:03 ScoutWBF wrote: Dude had 4 corsairs and didn't see Hydras.  Bro u need 7 corsairs to run freely in the map. | ||
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TMNT
3232 Posts
Snow had full map control/vision with his corsairs, and he still botched that game. So disappointing. Notice he killed 2 Overlords (which is 1 more than normally allowed) then had to pull back as Scourges started coming out, and some Corsairs nearly died if not for slick control. From that point as Protoss you have to keep your Sairs back until you accumulate enough of them to fight a potential Orge Zerg gamer. If you move out too early, you'll be called stupid. You talk about "full map control" as if Protoss has map hack. The correct play there? When Zerg decides to do that strategy of "guess which way I'm gonna all in you", the only way is to build Cannons in BOTH nat and main to account for both situations. But Zerg has a 3rd option: I'm just gonna Drone up and leave you behind economically. Like I said, as P you have to guess. Sometimes it pays off sometimes it doesn't. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13427 Posts
On October 26 2025 19:13 TMNT wrote: Some of the comments here, I swear they don't understand the matchup very well. Like this: Notice he killed 2 Overlords (which is 1 more than normally allowed) then had to pull back as Scourges started coming out, and some Corsairs nearly died if not for slick control. From that point as Protoss you have to keep your Sairs back until you accumulate enough of them to fight a potential Orge Zerg gamer. If you move out too early, you'll be called stupid. You talk about "full map control" as if Protoss has map hack. The correct play there? When Zerg decides to do that strategy of "guess which way I'm gonna all in you", the only way is to build Cannons in BOTH nat and main to account for both situations. But Zerg has a 3rd option: I'm just gonna Drone up and leave you behind economically. Like I said, as P you have to guess. Sometimes it pays off sometimes it doesn't. Hindsight is 20/20 but snow needed to prob sac a cair to get the info he needed. Knowing Soma, he was always going to double up on an all in there. It’s tough though. If he was doing a muta dive and he sacs a cair there to confirm it, that can be a big deal. I feel for Snow. He’s just guessing wrong each time. | ||
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TMNT
3232 Posts
On October 26 2025 19:04 RowdierBob wrote: As much as PvZ is tough for protosses, Soma is outplaying snow here. Snow thought it would be a muta all in like I did and didn’t bother to keep scouting till it was too late. Yeah but how can you "keep scouting" though? Nvm you just answered above. And yes I agree. The only way is to sneak a Corsair out of the group and go for Soma's base. But even with that there's two situations bad for Protoss that can occur : - the lone Sair gets caught by Scourge, because there's no reliable way to get the scout apart from praying he doesn't see me. - the lone Sair gets caught by the Muta Scourge flock, thus reducing his potency to defend the following Muta all in. There’s fuck all reliable solution really. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1266 Posts
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superjoppe
Sweden3694 Posts
random online C ranker: I could have won | ||
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oxKnu
1261 Posts
Definitely a test. | ||
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oxKnu
1261 Posts
On October 26 2025 19:20 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: SnOw greeded onto the overlords at 3 base that were free to kill, but as a result he didnt get a second full scout on SoMa's bases and was functioning on the spire tech information. He had to let the overlords go after killing one, and go for a second full scout. Only seeing the hydras once out on the map with his zealots killed him. SoMa read SnOw's greed perfectly and confirmed it with his scourge shadowing the zlots. Can we please stop with this? He didn't even align his cannons properly and the 5 zealots he had got stuck in the middle of the map on a map artifact. It was a terrible game altogether, not some 200IQ loss. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8932 Posts
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Kraekkling
724 Posts
two ling slips in!! snow should still feel good rn | ||
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