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oxKnu
1244 Posts
Snow has a bit of gap between him and others in PvP. The maps are not terrible for PvZ and only Soma is really scary from the remaining zergs. He can handle any PvT out there right now. Mini is too much of a headcase but if he maintains his level, the chances are there as well. He also has to avoid Snow in the Bo7s, he's not beating him in that. | ||
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Ideas
United States8161 Posts
Sad for JD but happy for mini 😰 | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19307 Posts
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Simplistik
2094 Posts
Oddly enough the PvP was the most entertaining. Although the final wa good too for different reasons. JD didn't look really on it unfortunately. We know he can play better than that even right now. Is it nerves? | ||
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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On September 16 2025 14:02 Sabu113 wrote: Just got to game 2. Mini is so so much better than any other protoss. It's not even close. No one else makes games like this. Zergs just aren't used to handling this kind of assertive agentic protoss. except mini has been like 5-30 his last 35 games in proleague/sponbbangs... Snow is the best and mini looks good because JD bottom tier zerg | ||
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prosatan
Romania8529 Posts
On September 16 2025 14:08 Shinokuki wrote: except mini has been like 5-30 his last 35 games in proleague/sponbbangs... Snow is the best and mini looks good because JD bottom tier zerg JD is NOT bottom tier zerg  He just had a bad day  Remember KCM , where he played amazing!!! | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey659 Posts
On September 16 2025 02:27 RogerChillingworth wrote: Well well well my level 60 sex machines, Mini did it. He almost accessed Mach 10, and very nearly looked like Robo in the cocaine factory with that auto-aim. He played like a baller. I won't rub it in because I know JD's got many fans. But it didn't seem very challenging for Mini. He just needs to practice PvP a bit. If he got out in first I woulda ...fuckin.....FUCK. Woulda been cool. Snow's got his number though. Fuck SnOw. Dude hacks. Yeah, Snow is reaver cheater. | ||
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polgas
Canada1765 Posts
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Ideas
United States8161 Posts
He's my favorite protoss on the scene but i don't think he can take down snow without a huge improvement to his gameplay, or having a ton of really good cheeses planned. Even though I think snow is the most solid PvZer right now, he's generally kind of weaker in BoX series because he plays very predictably and safe. I can see a scenario where effort beats snow but loses to mini. | ||
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Artas1984
135 Posts
On September 15 2025 22:32 RowdierBob wrote: I wouldn’t discount Light either. I think he’s a bit of a dark horse. That's funny... A double KSL/ASL champion and the nr. 1 ASL terran is considered by some a dark horse (is not this term used for underdogs?) - of course he is massively favored! On September 15 2025 22:22 TMNT wrote: Same Mini who lost 1 - 8 to Larva just a week ago. Ouch! Hearing that you would think Mini had no chance vs. JD. I think Mini turned on his "bitter zealot mode" - i wonder if any body remembers that??? On September 16 2025 11:16 BisuDagger wrote: What a great day of games! I’m so happy for Protoss!!! Yes. But i will wait for the semi-finals. You know there is a chance of 4 Protoss there (KSL deja-vu). On September 16 2025 14:08 Shinokuki wrote: JD bottom tier zerg You talk nonsense. You are defiling JD by this particular performance vs. Mini. He recently had two KCM all-kill events. JD was coming to this ASL as a top 5 zerg for sure. | ||
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On September 17 2025 05:50 Artas1984 wrote: That's funny... A double KSL/ASL champion and the nr. 1 ASL terran is considered by some a dark horse (is not this term used for underdogs?) - of course he is massively favored! Ouch! Hearing that you would think Mini had no chance vs. JD. I think Mini turned on his "bitter zealot mode" - i wonder if any body remembers that??? Yes. But i will wait for the semi-finals. You know there is a chance of 4 Protoss there (KSL deja-vu). You talk nonsense. You are defiling JD by this particular performance vs. Mini. He recently had two KCM all-kill events. JD was coming to this ASL as a top 5 zerg for sure. People in proleague will pick Soma > soulkey > queen > Hero > JD > Effort in that order so i guess you're right. When I meant bottom tier I meant he's the last place zerg in god tier realm. Actually scratch that since larva won! Soma > SK > Queen > Larva > Hero > JD > Effort. So jd not even in top 5 | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6812 Posts
But Jaedong for years has been behind the top zergs. It doesnt mean he is trash tho. In a good day he will destroy anyone like it happened in KCM. | ||
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prototype.
Canada4215 Posts
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
On September 18 2025 03:39 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Wait you guys saw Jd all kill in KCM and really thought oh shit he is winning this ASL for sure ? If you just put the effort to watch his daily streams you will see he is not close to SK Soma . There is a chance he is fighting spots with queen hero right now. So if you take the top 5 zergs he is proly bottom from those or 4 depending on the day really.That said im not really sure in proleague he is being pick last since he is still a powerhouse name that brings allot of ballons like shuttle lol. But Jaedong for years has been behind the top zergs. It doesnt mean he is trash tho. In a good day he will destroy anyone like it happened in KCM. Sadly, that's very true. Though, Jaedong is already hall of fame for me, doesn't matter what his gameplay is now, because back in the day he was one of the best of all time. | ||
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goody153
44238 Posts
Double protoss making but i'm kinda sad with Jaedong. He was kinda crushing in KCM and he just got wiped on the floor by mini like he couldnt figure out how to beat the mass lot timing early on Aint no way we arent gonna get a protoss winner this season especially with soulkey out of the way | ||
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Zografa
214 Posts
On September 18 2025 03:39 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Wait you guys saw Jd all kill in KCM and really thought oh shit he is winning this ASL for sure ? If you just put the effort to watch his daily streams you will see he is not close to SK Soma . There is a chance he is fighting spots with queen hero right now. So if you take the top 5 zergs he is proly bottom from those or 4 depending on the day really.That said im not really sure in proleague he is being pick last since he is still a powerhouse name that brings allot of ballons like shuttle lol. But Jaedong for years has been behind the top zergs. It doesnt mean he is trash tho. In a good day he will destroy anyone like it happened in KCM. its what we want and demand - more good days for JD | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey659 Posts
On September 19 2025 04:45 goody153 wrote: Snow making it 1st is no surprise. That PvP series was surprisingly fun. Usually tvt and pvp are not so fun to watch for me. Double protoss making but i'm kinda sad with Jaedong. He was kinda crushing in KCM and he just got wiped on the floor by mini like he couldnt figure out how to beat the mass lot timing early on Aint no way we arent gonna get a protoss winner this season especially with soulkey out of the way Washed up zerg pros age terribly. The zerg split decisions turn sour immediately. The fastest rising stars become the worst crashing ones. Thank God for BTS. He really doesn't play cheese and keeps up with his style until the end. Zerg is littered with pros who cheese their favourite unit - Jaedong and hydralisks, Action and defilers, july and zerglings. Keeping up tabs with the enemy is really hard with zerg, you don't have the same spying capabilities as the other species. You lose track of the enemy. Nothing is as inexpendable as the weakest units in the game when your enemy has gained courage to strike at you. The whole game revolves around intimidation and too much or too little fails miserably. | ||
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