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But no outcome from this group would surprise me. | ||
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Lot of hype for JD's PvZ but I am suspicious how much is nostalgia. | ||
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On September 15 2025 14:37 prototype. wrote: regardless of results, i think we're all winners for being able witness this group I'm actively trying to lower my expectations of great games in case some players have a bad day. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
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However, if Mach 10 Mini shows up it could go the other way. He'll come up out of the ground like Arnie did in Eraser with the 2 rail guns, and just go off. Or like Robocop in the cocaine factory, when he shat on everyone with that absurd auto-aim. Making Flash look like one of those SC University chicks. We've seen it before vs Barracks that one season, or when he Black-Widow-crotch-tackled soma with the cair micro, but lost anyway cuz apologize for playing that race. Today could be a SwiftSadge, or it could be a ThumpGiggle. Maybe even a 4KappaPrideJam. But never a GIGABooba. Now i'm rdy for start game. And plz be gg. | ||
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On September 15 2025 13:03 prosatan wrote: gogo Jaedong! | ||
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On September 15 2025 19:20 gravity wrote: Looks like they have some realtime AI subtitles on Soop now (is that new?) nope, has been there from the start. | ||
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TMNT
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On September 15 2025 19:20 RowdierBob wrote: Geez, Snow is only 37% vs Zerg in ASL? Didn’t know it was that rough. Soulkey probably responsible for that. His PvZ was kind of ass during the first 15 seasons or so too. | ||
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gravity
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I was watching on Afreeca before so I guess I didn't see it. They are a bit distracting anyway. | ||
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prosatan
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 please LR a bit !! | ||
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On September 15 2025 19:49 prosatan wrote: god damn i have to leave for an hour please LR a bit !! making carriers is a useful skill toi have. | ||
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On September 15 2025 19:49 BLinD-RawR wrote: its like bees ate up 2 ccs Korean hornets | ||
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"You kill them before they get 10 carriers" | ||
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On September 15 2025 19:53 Gorsameth wrote: Feel like a case of "how do you beat 10 carriers?" "You kill them before they get 10 carriers" and he had plenty of opportunity to do that. | ||
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   logos on TL even if they're not anything official by Blizzard. | ||
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On September 15 2025 19:24 gravity wrote: I was watching on Afreeca before so I guess I didn't see it. They are a bit distracting anyway. you can turn it off, just click on the CC caption control button. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
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Need like 2 bobcats playing and then maybe it can be cool. Otherwise it's like NASCAR or some shit. Left turn simulator. Nah this shit's like...MONOPOLY. OH god. | ||
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On September 15 2025 19:56 RogerChillingworth wrote: My issue with PvT is that it's just so fucking repetitive. Carriers, shuttle/storm, gateway man...it's like waves crashing against the beach over and over. It lacks any real narrative structure past the early game. It might even be worse than ZvZ. Need like 2 bobcats playing and then maybe it can be cool. Otherwise it's like NASCAR or some shit. Left turn simulator. Nah this shit's like...MONOPOLY. OH god. I felt like this during KeSPA era at some point. Every damn PvT seemed the same. It tends to be the case when meta stops evolving and is idling until the next change starts. And this is why it's so important to have some new maps each ASL. | ||
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On September 15 2025 19:50 BLinD-RawR wrote: making carriers is a useful skill toi have. Haaaaa  good one !! | ||
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On September 15 2025 20:12 gravity wrote: with his supply in the gutter he doesn't need the overlords, and he desperately needed to buy time so fake dropFake drop or accident? | ||
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On September 15 2025 20:12 BLinD-RawR wrote: was that a fake drop attempt? Probably buy some time to pump another round of drones, but then he just lost a bunch of lords lmao | ||
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Seemed like a case of JD making too many lings early and not doing the necessary damage with them to not fall behind. | ||
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TMNT
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On September 15 2025 19:56 RogerChillingworth wrote: My issue with PvT is that it's just so fucking repetitive. Carriers, shuttle/storm, gateway man...it's like waves crashing against the beach over and over. It lacks any real narrative structure past the early game. It might even be worse than ZvZ. Need like 2 bobcats playing and then maybe it can be cool. Otherwise it's like NASCAR or some shit. Left turn simulator. Nah this shit's like...MONOPOLY. OH god. Are you on cracks on every ASL matchday, 'cause you comments always seems high af. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On September 15 2025 19:56 RogerChillingworth wrote: My issue with PvT is that it's just so fucking repetitive. Carriers, shuttle/storm, gateway man...it's like waves crashing against the beach over and over. It lacks any real narrative structure past the early game. It might even be worse than ZvZ. Need like 2 bobcats playing and then maybe it can be cool. Otherwise it's like NASCAR or some shit. Left turn simulator. Nah this shit's like...MONOPOLY. OH god. please think twice before hitting post on TL. | ||
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TMNT
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On September 15 2025 20:21 RogerChillingworth wrote: says the guy with 50,000 posts LOL I mean, PvT is the matchup with the most diverse strategies. If you think it's repetitive, what do you think about PvZ and especially TvZ lol. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On September 15 2025 20:21 RogerChillingworth wrote: says the guy with 50,000 posts LOL at least 30k of them are of value. | ||
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On September 15 2025 20:45 prosatan wrote: 1-1It is over ??? Mini vs snow??? | ||
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On September 15 2025 21:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I'm hoping for Jaedong > Sharp and then Jaedong > Mini. + 1 !! | ||
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On September 15 2025 21:31 BLinD-RawR wrote: Clash on the big bridge right now. Ff5 reference? | ||
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yup | ||
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Should have tried sneaking drops through the overlords, or getting rid of them to enable a drop first, instead of dropping next to JDs army 5 times. | ||
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On September 15 2025 21:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Hopefully Jaedong beats Mini this time! well depends on Mini's mental state. | ||
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On September 15 2025 21:57 RowdierBob wrote: Mini’s decision making in PvZ is incredible. and he also has the best early game ever !!! | ||
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On September 15 2025 22:06 Zergxhx wrote: Well, no Z can win in this situation unless the opponent is a shuttle wait.... | ||
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Edit: nah JD droned | ||
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On September 15 2025 22:06 Zergxhx wrote: Well, no Z can win in this situation unless the opponent is a shuttle Is looking good for zerg | ||
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why do you always do this... | ||
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On September 15 2025 22:13 durachok wrote: Hyuked. | ||
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On September 15 2025 22:13 RowdierBob wrote: Felt a lot more like JD repeatedly throwing rather then Mini playing out of his mind.Mini is so damn good to watch PvZ. Best since prime Bisu. | ||
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On September 15 2025 22:14 Gorsameth wrote: Felt a lot more like JD repeatedly throwing rather then Mini playing out of his mind. Gotta watch Mini’s play more closely and how he boxes JD in. The sneak zeal attack+ramp block game 1. The anticipation and defence of the all in game two and zoning of the slow overlords game 2 to set up the DT drop. And the early third to bait JD into attacking while he drops DTs. Just brilliant decision making. Mini had JD on his heels all the time. Never allowed him to get comfortable. | ||
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4P in Ro8 now but it feels to me that increases the chance of a Soma win. | ||
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On September 15 2025 22:19 Peeano wrote: Hydra control when busting/forcing cans can use some improvement as well. Like use the H button for all the hydras if your busy in your base macroing/teching. You could see after game 1 (their second of the day) that JD was over letting Mini set the pace of the games. The ling/hydra all in was pretty obviously coming as it at least would allow JD to dictate proceedings and get into his hydra pump. But mini just never let him relax. I really loved the quick third from Mini. Such a ballsy but smart play to pair with the DT drop. | ||
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On September 15 2025 22:22 TMNT wrote: Same Mini who lost 1 - 8 to Larva just a week ago. 4P in Ro8 now but it feels to me that increases the chance of a Soma win. Or it's all just a setup for Barracks to win ASL, JyJ/Royal style. | ||
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But the only player that give me Aura of no losing to nobody except Soulkey is Snow. | ||
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On September 15 2025 22:39 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Most likely Snow season. While Soma is in good shape his zerg vs terran i dont feel like is beating Light. And im not sure if Light can beat Snow. It all depends how the bracket plays out tbh. But the only player that give me Aura of no losing to nobody except Soulkey is Snow. Soma is probably the only one left who is better than Snow (at least in ZvP). I don’t see Snow beating Soma bo7 but he prob has an edge against any other player on the ro8. I think prob Soma, Snow, Light is probably top 3 in that order. I think Mini can win it too but his PvP is shaky and there are many P in ro8. Best has a shot too. Can’t see Bisu, Rax or Effort winning. | ||
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On September 15 2025 22:39 iFU.pauline wrote: I am glad I could not watch the games. The now most probable outcome is that effOrt demolishes everyone. if effort vs mini happens i will go with mini heck , even snow vs effort i would go with snow also | ||
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On September 15 2025 22:59 prosatan wrote: if effort vs mini happens i will go with mini heck , even snow vs effort i would go with snow also we said the same with the so called monster z v t Rush, and it ended in pure rape. Tv match is a different game. | ||
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On September 15 2025 23:08 iFU.pauline wrote: we said the same with the so called monster z v t Rush, and it ended in pure rape. Tv match is a different game. agree pauline ... speaking of effort , a K league it's about to start! let's watch this to forget about this disaster .... | ||
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meanwhile , my baby is sad and alone | ||
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On September 15 2025 22:54 RowdierBob wrote: Soma is probably the only one left who is better than Snow (at least in ZvP). I don’t see Snow beating Soma bo7 but he prob has an edge against any other player on the ro8. I think prob Soma, Snow, Light is probably top 3 in that order. I think Mini can win it too but his PvP is shaky and there are many P in ro8. Best has a shot too. Can’t see Bisu, Rax or Effort winning. If Effort gets Barracks or Light then he is out. If he gets Bisu, Best, or Mini there is a chance. Barracks will lose of he gets Best, SnOw, or a Bisu. | ||
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On September 15 2025 22:17 RowdierBob wrote: Gotta watch Mini’s play more closely and how he boxes JD in. The sneak zeal attack+ramp block game 1. The anticipation and defence of the all in game two and zoning of the slow overlords game 2 to set up the DT drop. And the early third to bait JD into attacking while he drops DTs. Just brilliant decision making. Mini had JD on his heels all the time. Never allowed him to get comfortable. My man... JD rallied an overlord to mini's main and lost it to cannon which supply blocked him. That is a ?? level blunder which otherwise would have had JD winning in the next 90 seconds. | ||
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On September 15 2025 23:47 Ze'ev wrote: artosis/tasteless stream still aint up? their vod takes upto 72 hours after the live stream. | ||
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RogueTheGOAT
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On September 15 2025 23:47 Ze'ev wrote: artosis/tasteless stream still aint up? The ASL Patreon only generates $140,000 in pledges before the Patreon cut. You can't expect them to get out of bed that early for that little. | ||
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On September 15 2025 23:44 cha0 wrote: My man... JD rallied an overlord to mini's main and lost it to cannon which supply blocked him. That is a ?? level blunder which otherwise would have had JD winning in the next 90 seconds. hard to say its a blunder when ordinarily thered be no reason for mini to have a cannon there at that time. weird decision from mini just happened to pay off massively. | ||
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On September 15 2025 21:57 BLinD-RawR wrote: Only a Jaedong fanboy would say this wasn't a game worth watching. | ||
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Snow has a bit of gap between him and others in PvP. The maps are not terrible for PvZ and only Soma is really scary from the remaining zergs. He can handle any PvT out there right now. Mini is too much of a headcase but if he maintains his level, the chances are there as well. He also has to avoid Snow in the Bo7s, he's not beating him in that. | ||
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Oddly enough the PvP was the most entertaining. Although the final wa good too for different reasons. JD didn't look really on it unfortunately. We know he can play better than that even right now. Is it nerves? | ||
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