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Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
December 06 2007 10:08 GMT
#121
T_T Stork
betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
December 06 2007 10:09 GMT
#122
that looked like a pretty standard wall in; what did stork do wrong apart from scouting?
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
December 06 2007 10:10 GMT
#123
im 2/2 so far.
too bad i forgot to vote...
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
defenestrate
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States579 Posts
December 06 2007 10:10 GMT
#124
Stork scouted a pool first build and skimped on defense in spite of further scouting denial. What was he expecting, hugs and kisses?
We believe that we invent symbols. The truth is that they invent us; we are their creatures, shaped by their hard, defining edges.
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
December 06 2007 10:11 GMT
#125
On December 06 2007 19:09 betaben wrote:
that looked like a pretty standard wall in; what did stork do wrong apart from scouting?


you just said the answer
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
December 06 2007 10:12 GMT
#126
poor scouting cost him the game.
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4952 Posts
December 06 2007 10:13 GMT
#127
On December 06 2007 19:09 betaben wrote:
that looked like a pretty standard wall in; what did stork do wrong apart from scouting?


You can't defend a ling-allin with just 2 cannons, you need at least three, good blocking, and fast reactions with nice micro I think this allin was a bit delayed, so even 4 cannons would have been needed. But I don't know, when I see more than 6 lings at my choke with speed, I just add more cannons...if he isn't doing an all-in, but faking, I don't get behind that much (considering he spend drones mining time / money on lingspeed), and if he's indeed doing an all-in, I can defend.

So Stork (imo) just read Jaedong plain wrong. He saw the lings. He saw they had speed.
Complete the cycle!
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
December 06 2007 10:13 GMT
#128
Damnit Stork. Looks like Bisu again proves PL matters naught, so long as you qualify for both leagues.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4642 Posts
December 06 2007 10:14 GMT
#129
On December 06 2007 19:13 Naib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2007 19:09 betaben wrote:
that looked like a pretty standard wall in; what did stork do wrong apart from scouting?


You can't defend a ling-allin with just 2 cannons, you need at least three, good blocking, and fast reactions with nice micro I think this allin was a bit delayed, so even 4 cannons would have been needed. But I don't know, when I see more than 6 lings at my choke with speed, I just add more cannons...if he isn't doing an all-in, but faking, I don't get behind that much (considering he spend drones mining time / money on lingspeed), and if he's indeed doing an all-in, I can defend.

So Stork (imo) just read Jaedong plain wrong. He saw the lings. He saw they had speed.

Jaedong?
This neo violence, pure self defiance
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
December 06 2007 10:18 GMT
#130
yay i misclicked ruby and lux advancing!
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
December 06 2007 10:19 GMT
#131
On December 06 2007 19:13 Naib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2007 19:09 betaben wrote:
that looked like a pretty standard wall in; what did stork do wrong apart from scouting?


You can't defend a ling-allin with just 2 cannons, you need at least three, good blocking, and fast reactions with nice micro I think this allin was a bit delayed, so even 4 cannons would have been needed. But I don't know, when I see more than 6 lings at my choke with speed, I just add more cannons...if he isn't doing an all-in, but faking, I don't get behind that much (considering he spend drones mining time / money on lingspeed), and if he's indeed doing an all-in, I can defend.

So Stork (imo) just read Jaedong plain wrong. He saw the lings. He saw they had speed.

How do you know if it's an all-in though, if all you see is about 6 speedlings? Lingspeed doesn't cost him much... plus who would actually get 4 cannons unless they predicted hydras.
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
December 06 2007 10:19 GMT
#132
I think stork was waiting for his corsair to appear so that he could scout, coz luxury was denying stork info so well at his nat ( as in not letting his probe go out), thus the all-in ling worked.

Stork didnt really expect a all-in ling since its kinda uncommon aside from hydra-all in.
he thought bisu build > zerg, apparently not.

But still it is luxury who won the game, not stork who lost it.
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
December 06 2007 10:20 GMT
#133
On December 06 2007 19:14 Hittegods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2007 19:13 Naib wrote:
On December 06 2007 19:09 betaben wrote:
that looked like a pretty standard wall in; what did stork do wrong apart from scouting?


You can't defend a ling-allin with just 2 cannons, you need at least three, good blocking, and fast reactions with nice micro I think this allin was a bit delayed, so even 4 cannons would have been needed. But I don't know, when I see more than 6 lings at my choke with speed, I just add more cannons...if he isn't doing an all-in, but faking, I don't get behind that much (considering he spend drones mining time / money on lingspeed), and if he's indeed doing an all-in, I can defend.

So Stork (imo) just read Jaedong plain wrong. He saw the lings. He saw they had speed.

Jaedong?


by the end he had a citadel, I think, and was probably getting legs; so, for extra cannons, cut probe production, or sacrifice tech?
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
December 06 2007 10:24 GMT
#134
I just logged in. Can someone give me a result standing?
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
December 06 2007 10:27 GMT
#135
On December 06 2007 19:07 Hittegods wrote:
stork > hiya
ruby > luxury
Ruby > stork
luxury > hiya
luxury > stork
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
December 06 2007 10:54 GMT
#136
This... is... STUPPPIIIDDDDDDDDDDDD!
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
December 06 2007 11:16 GMT
#137
what????? ruby?????

RUBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
December 06 2007 11:22 GMT
#138
lol fakesteve, i think we are all suprise
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 06 2007 11:23 GMT
#139
Stork, just win your semi-final okay.. then all is forgiven

if you dont!!
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
December 06 2007 11:31 GMT
#140
yaaaaaaay ruby
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
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