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BLinD-RawR
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namkraft
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This is the right one:  SpeedAnd like I said in a previous thread. Linking to SOSPA is dead. It's better to link to Liquipedia pages. Unless the Teamliquidifying function can be rewritten to link to Liquipedia, we are stuck with just manually putting in the race image plus the text with the link to Liquipedia. | ||
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prosatan
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 LB on Best and action , but rooting for speed I'm glad to see new names in ASL  | ||
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NovaTheFeared
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M3t4PhYzX
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The rest is whatevs to me. | ||
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Kaal
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On September 02 2024 15:57 NovaTheFeared wrote: Really need Action to make it here there are hardly any zergs left. JD is in really good form and he's tomorrow! Hopefully both make it through. | ||
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prosatan
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On September 02 2024 17:57 Kaal wrote: JD is in really good form and he's tomorrow! Hopefully both make it through. Pleaseeee!!! JD !!! | ||
Peeano
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I hope either Speed or Sea wins their first game, so we don't have to watch TvT :D | ||
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PVJ
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I don't remember which finals did Speed win but I also don't remember his past 2 appearances in the league -- I hope he makes a good impression and shows good games. But I think Best and action is going to move on. Best is not worse than in previous seasons, he is consistent and experienced. Action has retired and un-retired and whatever but I think he can snipe both Terrans. I mostly enjoyed last weeks games on the maps so let's go~~! | ||
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Kaal
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BLinD-RawR
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Kaal
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On September 02 2024 19:34 BLinD-RawR wrote: Surprisingly competitive game Yeah the backdoors by Speed are really saving his ass. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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PVJ
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Those Emp's vs Arbs were as if I'm back in 2005 | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Kaal
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Peeano
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On September 02 2024 19:44 BLinD-RawR wrote: This is why no one believes in best I believe he can survive Ro24, but I don't believe we will ever see him become a champ lol. | ||
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PVJ
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Kaal
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ggsimida
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On September 02 2024 19:00 Peeano wrote: Can't watch live, but I'd watch for the rolfstomping. I hope either Speed or Sea wins their first game, so we don't have to watch TvT :D LOL | ||
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Kaal
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BLinD-RawR
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TMNT
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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BLinD-RawR
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PVJ
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But this was a game where they tried to underwhelm each other and in that sense: Action won! Now looking forward to see if the whole group can become a travesty. | ||
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PVJ
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Kaal
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On September 02 2024 20:23 PVJ wrote: Sea was really good in TvT in the MBChero days, was he? TvT and TvZ yeah | ||
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TMNT
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Kaal
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smilevideo
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Peeano
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On September 02 2024 20:48 RowdierBob wrote: Who’s commentating with Nyoken? Love his candour.  Razz | ||
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PVJ
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Thanks, glad I had that memory correctly stored. @Tmnt yes, not that I expected him to train or learn the map I just had this "oh how the mighty have fallen" train of thought rolling by. I wonder if best can go mass corsairs on this map? | ||
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prosatan
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Losers match: best vs action  | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Kaal
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On September 02 2024 21:05 RowdierBob wrote: I’ll prob get told off with stats to the contrary but Best’s form hasn’t looked great lately. Not a terribly shocking result. No you're right, he only won 2-3 of his games the last week in proleague out of like 10. | ||
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PVJ
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The sair / dt rush I think was okay unless it was intended as an all-in. But leaving the battlefield without corsairs or dt just left a void in the army composition that protoss would want against mutas. Best prepared okay but played bad, I guess his last place is well deserved. | ||
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prosatan
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BLinD-RawR
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BLinD-RawR
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M3t4PhYzX
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Bummer. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On September 02 2024 21:13 M3t4PhYzX wrote: Something like this was bound to happen sooner or later though, I guess. Bummer. like what? | ||
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Kaal
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prosatan
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PVJ
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M3t4PhYzX
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Strong, previously well performing player that I wanted to advance from the ro24 bo1 gauntlet getting bonked also a ZvP massacre on top of that. | ||
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TMNT
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On September 02 2024 21:05 RowdierBob wrote: I’ll prob get told off with stats to the contrary but Best’s form hasn’t looked great lately. Not a terribly shocking result. You're not wrong. His form has been kinda meh lately. However, he's still good enough to beat Speed and at least 50/50 with Action (that is to say, if they play a long series like Bo7). I think his build choices in both games aren't good and he got countered both times and he couldn't overcome the difficulty of falling behind. | ||
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TMNT
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BLinD-RawR
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M3t4PhYzX
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On September 02 2024 21:26 BLinD-RawR wrote: I love it when BW gets wild like this game Same. A little bit of spice's always nice. | ||
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PVJ
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I think Action built too many structures and that is why he is low on drones and economy. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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prosatan
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TMNT
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TornadoSteve
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I thought Action would lose 0-2 and Best would manage to finish 2nd but oh well... Action or Sea, doesnt matter, their journey will end in the RO16. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Kaal
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prosatan
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PVJ
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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On September 02 2024 20:36 Kaal wrote: Anybody that says they predicted Speed 2-0 gonna get thrown off a bridge lol. This is the most unexpected result I've seen in a LONG time. I don't want to be the one, but I did lol. I've been following speed specifically with extra attention since April/May 2023. He had a late night series vs SoMa where they played 12 games. 3 on ladder, and then another 8 spon matches, and then 1 more on ladder. Speed went 3-0 on ladder. then went 2-0, 2-1, 2-1 vs Soma in sponsor matches, and the wins were FAST and VERY decisive. then they played one more ladder game and Speed also won that. 10-2 score. The rest of the year he performed about 50/50 vs top 16 players. Around June of 2024 he suddenly came out swinging with MASSIVE series wins over Mini and Jaedong spanning multiple spon series. Also did really well in KCM, and not just once but multiple times. He started getting into more Major Proleagues and he was doing better than the bottom MPL performers. And then I saw a game last week of Speed vs Mini and Speed's multitasking was insane. He was out rotating, out moving and out speeding Mini. Sea though. Expected him to Crash and burn. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
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damn | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
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opposite day, much? :3 | ||
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TMNT
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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On September 02 2024 21:51 TMNT wrote: The funny thing is last season after getting eliminated Sea actually said "one step at a time", referring to him losing 0-2 in ASL16, then 1-2 in ASL17 and now 2-1 this season. So he did improve his results after each season lol. and he didn't even practice harder! Talent once again proving to be overpowered. | ||
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TMNT
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On September 02 2024 22:29 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: and he didn't even practice harder! Talent once again proving to be overpowered. To be fair he didn't demonstrate amazing micro or multitasking skills or tricky army movement and such. He just picked a build that suits his current level best and executed it solidly, twice. The map in the second game helped too. No way Sea could 2-0 Action with SK Terran but it's also on Action for coming unprepared against Goliath build. Also wouldn't be surprised if Sea made a call to Flash for advice. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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On September 03 2024 00:15 TornadoSteve wrote: Since his comeback, Action is playing so bad compared to his level so Sea 2-0 him is not that big of a surprise... However, Best was in very good shape and its a shame he got sweeped in arguably the easiest RO24 group. But then again, rooting for Best has proven to be painful for nearly a decade now Nah this was a sleeper group with everyone except the pros sleeping on speed. | ||
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TMNT
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On September 03 2024 00:23 Zergxhx wrote: Think about it, in the worst case scenario, SSL R16 might only have two Zerg players. The organizers actually tried to increase the chance for Zergs by putting JD (strongest tier 3) and Shine (weakest tier 2) in the same group. There are 5 Zergs in Ro24 so normally they should have been spread into 5 groups. But I think there's no way YSC gets past both the Zergs in group E, so probably JD in Ro16. | ||
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TornadoSteve
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On September 03 2024 00:27 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: Nah this was a sleeper group with everyone except the pros sleeping on speed. I called Speed on the RO8 before group A started | ||
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TT1
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Lazyer
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Last game was interesting, but damn the overdogs really under-performed today. | ||
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Teacher-X17
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I never thought both Speed & Sea would move on, to be honest. I kinda expected Speed to upset either Best or especially Action since Action came in a bit rusty, but to see Sea beat Action 2-0 was very surprising. Happy for the guy -- he’s always been great with his fan base and was actually one of the very few who spent a decent amount of time here on TL back in 2008-2009, just kicking it with the foreign scene. Oh well, after a disappointment in Group C, Group D didn’t disappoint at all. Excited for tomorrow. I think it’s safe to say that this is the easiest group Light could’ve asked for, and I just can’t see him not advancing. After that, I’m not sure who to pick between JD & Shine. JD is actually in good shape, and so is Shine. Looking forward to it, and congrats to both Speed & Sea! As a Terran player (well… 80% Terran player), that made me smile  Feeling bad for both Best & Action though... especially Action. He’s nowhere near playing at his potential level right now… not really sure what’s going on with him. | ||
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Teacher-X17
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On September 03 2024 00:15 TornadoSteve wrote: Since his comeback, Action is playing so bad compared to his level so Sea 2-0 him is not that big of a surprise... However, Best was in very good shape and its a shame he got sweeped in arguably the easiest RO24 group. But then again, rooting for Best has proven to be painful for nearly a decade now Exactly. His ceiling is much higher. I once saw Action as a potential ASL champion, and he came close to it. But as you said, since his return, he hasn’t been the same. It wasn’t too long ago that he was actually getting decent results. Best, on the other hand, has been consistent, so seeing him lose like that is a bit more shocking, as I thought he was a lock in that group. | ||
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prosatan
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On September 03 2024 01:27 TornadoSteve wrote: I called Speed on the RO8 before group A started Yeah ! Amazing call  I didn't listen and LB on best and action... | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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On September 03 2024 01:27 TornadoSteve wrote: I called Speed on the RO8 before group A started I called Speed for SSL champion before SSL was even announced! | ||
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ruhtraeel
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On a side note, Action giving me hard match fixing vibes right now | ||
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outscar
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I don't know if Sea practiced at all or just got lucky by default but losing vs. ex pro/streamer when you train so much gonna hurt Action, I hope he won't announce his retirement again. | ||
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im a roc
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On September 03 2024 11:11 ruhtraeel wrote: On a side note, Action giving me hard match fixing vibes right now Yeah, I know what you mean. I wasn’t buying it when people were saying that they rigged an easy qualifier bracket for him, but after seeing the RO24 games I’m almost ready to put on my tin foil hat and go full conspiracy theorist about Sea getting pushed through to boost viewership… | ||
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cheesehuehue
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On September 05 2024 09:57 im a roc wrote: Yeah, I know what you mean. I wasn’t buying it when people were saying that they rigged an easy qualifier bracket for him, but after seeing the RO24 games I’m almost ready to put on my tin foil hat and go full conspiracy theorist about Sea getting pushed through to boost viewership… I'm putting my tin foil hat, too. He played so fking bad. What is more upsetting is that he has actually been playing well for the last few weeks. In fact, right now he has 8 wins in a row, including 5 victories today, four of which are against + Show Spoiler + Rush, Light, Mini and Sharp And Action is not like Snow, Light or Best that play well online and then choke onthe stage. | ||
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PVJ
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if memory serves me right I saw Action prematurely gg'ing in at least two if not three previous seasons. I don't remember even the matchup just that perplexed feeling, like 'why???'. if this reminds anyone of an action (or other) player's matches with premature gg's please help me out! Not to say it doesn't, it certainly seems weird when you line all this up -- just that gg'ing is on a spectrum, and some are on the hasty end (like Mini does it too). | ||
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Peeano
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On September 07 2024 06:00 PVJ wrote: I only have vague recollection and had not any free time yet to check back on previous seasons on Liquipedia but: if memory serves me right I saw Action prematurely gg'ing in at least two if not three previous seasons. I don't remember even the matchup just that perplexed feeling, like 'why???'. if this reminds anyone of an action (or other) player's matches with premature gg's please help me out! Not to say it doesn't, it certainly seems weird when you line all this up -- just that gg'ing is on a spectrum, and some are on the hasty end (like Mini does it too). Probably because the conditions for their game plan went passed its limit and then they don't wish to play for that <5% salvage win. I prefer that than the other extreme which is the Fantasy gg timing lol | ||
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