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Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2925 Posts
March 19 2024 20:04 GMT
#81
SK, Hero & Mini are in great shape it seems. Would've liked to see Hero vs Mini today but happy to see Hero took first spot so we're at least avoiding SK vs Hero & Mini vs Bisu in RO8.
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13295 Posts
March 19 2024 23:12 GMT
#82
Not super shocking all the terrans are out so far. Even Royal not making it is not an upset given the quality of Mini and Hero.

I'd expect one (if not both) of Rush and Light will make it. But that might be it for the terrans. Wouldn't be shocked if Sharp and Mind don't make it either. Action and Snow are prob the two best terran killers of their respective races.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1044 Posts
March 19 2024 23:18 GMT
#83
On March 20 2024 08:12 RowdierBob wrote:
Not super shocking all the terrans are out so far. Even Royal not making it is not an upset given the quality of Mini and Hero.

I'd expect one (if not both) of Rush and Light will make it. But that might be it for the terrans. Wouldn't be shocked if Sharp and Mind don't make it either. Action and Snow are prob the two best terran killers of their respective races.


Yeah Rush and Light have the best odds. But I am going to make a ballsy prediction and say only one of them two will make it through. Anything can Happen in D but SnOw seems certain. Would not be surprised if Sharp makes it through. he's legitimately playing rock solid right now.
JDON MY SOUL!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6785 Posts
March 19 2024 23:28 GMT
#84
On March 20 2024 08:18 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 08:12 RowdierBob wrote:
Not super shocking all the terrans are out so far. Even Royal not making it is not an upset given the quality of Mini and Hero.

I'd expect one (if not both) of Rush and Light will make it. But that might be it for the terrans. Wouldn't be shocked if Sharp and Mind don't make it either. Action and Snow are prob the two best terran killers of their respective races.


Yeah Rush and Light have the best odds. But I am going to make a ballsy prediction and say only one of them two will make it through. Anything can Happen in D but SnOw seems certain. Would not be surprised if Sharp makes it through. he's legitimately playing rock solid right now.

Knowing Sharp weak nerves and how he always crashing to close winning positions i dont think he will go far. I will never forget how he made Shuttle an ASL champion LOL .
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3091 Posts
March 20 2024 00:08 GMT
#85
I too feel like Sharp is a bit under the radar at the moment. Probably because he's been camping in K League for so long so hasn't made many headlines. But every time I saw him it felt like this guys at least on par if not better than Rush and Royal.

To verify, a quick check on his win rates in all games since last November shows: 60% vs Bisu, 69% vs Hero, 54% vs Rush, 53% vs Mini, 67% vs Mind, 80% vs JYJ, 45% vs Action, 71% vs Royal and 31% vs Snow. Pretty sick, although unfortunate for him that he's in the same group with Snow and Action.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1044 Posts
March 20 2024 02:33 GMT
#86
On March 20 2024 09:08 TMNT wrote:
I too feel like Sharp is a bit under the radar at the moment. Probably because he's been camping in K League for so long so hasn't made many headlines. But every time I saw him it felt like this guys at least on par if not better than Rush and Royal.

To verify, a quick check on his win rates in all games since last November shows: 60% vs Bisu, 69% vs Hero, 54% vs Rush, 53% vs Mini, 67% vs Mind, 80% vs JYJ, 45% vs Action, 71% vs Royal and 31% vs Snow. Pretty sick, although unfortunate for him that he's in the same group with Snow and Action.


Sharp has really leveled up and is very consistent.
JDON MY SOUL!
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
March 20 2024 02:52 GMT
#87
Sharp is a fanatastically entertaining Terran. Hope he does well (as long as Snow proceeds!)

Man what a day by Mini. Looked scary. Honestly wouldn't want to mess with Mini or Snow this tournament. Hope they get some good terrans to torment each round.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 20 2024 04:34 GMT
#88
Funniest group ever? If Mini managed to win that first game I was like I'm fan of him for next fifty years lol, that was pure insanity! Not surprised RoyaL didn't make it out, his games on previous round weren't satysfying at all. BarrackS needs more coaching from Light, his decision making and timings are off - his both rushes failed utterly and did more damage to him than to his opponent.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States365 Posts
March 20 2024 07:16 GMT
#89
You know I'm happy for BarrackS, I remember him scrubbing out in a few Ro24 w/ some stupid BBS, now he's not cheesing every game. Hope he continues to show up in the coming seasons. He's also kinda cute ngl.

Mini rly keeping us on our toes LOL. I think everyone knew Hero was gonna make it out, but sometimes Mini can tilt himself off the face of the earth. Utterly destroyed in the second half of the group, that's the aggressive domination I love to see out of Mini.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey745 Posts
March 20 2024 10:47 GMT
#90
This shuttle micro is damn good. Especially Snow and Mini doing it seamless.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8145 Posts
March 20 2024 15:19 GMT
#91
This group is a great case of why mini is my fav player lol
Free Palestine
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria378 Posts
March 20 2024 16:03 GMT
#92
How did the most stacked ro16 become the least quality ro16 so far, lol.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States713 Posts
March 20 2024 16:35 GMT
#93
Looks like I overestimated Royal's and Barracks' TvP. Like, c'mon, you're against Mini. Stop trying to attack him in the early game. The guy never makes more than 40 probes. He LOVES early game skirmishes. To beat Mini TvP, you turtle hard, and let him take the whole map because he doesn't actually know how to do that.

Fun games though. I shouldn't complain too much... I actually want P and Z to advance over t this season

GG
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic937 Posts
March 20 2024 16:36 GMT
#94
On March 20 2024 09:08 TMNT wrote:
I too feel like Sharp is a bit under the radar at the moment. Probably because he's been camping in K League for so long so hasn't made many headlines. But every time I saw him it felt like this guys at least on par if not better than Rush and Royal.

To verify, a quick check on his win rates in all games since last November shows: 60% vs Bisu, 69% vs Hero, 54% vs Rush, 53% vs Mini, 67% vs Mind, 80% vs JYJ, 45% vs Action, 71% vs Royal and 31% vs Snow. Pretty sick, although unfortunate for him that he's in the same group with Snow and Action.


Out of curiosity, since im unable to watch daily proleagues much recently. Why was RoyaL trying to beat Hero with that somehow risky middle map rack strategy (unlike usual placement on natural), I found him in recent year to be quite all round consistent terran vs zerg relying on mostly standard games. He was being recently beated by Hero (who is to be honest in great shape from what I seen recently) a lot, so he decided to go risky and agressive in bo1 scenario?
never too old for starcraft :)
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8145 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-21 00:51:28
March 20 2024 17:20 GMT
#95
Hopefully someone like jinjin or TMNT can translate from an interview or stream but I'm wondering if the placement of that 6rax would have allowed royal to catch and kill an overlord before lings could get made to kill a 12hatch (if hero scouted in the other direction/spawned in other location)? basically guaranteeing a full-kill against 12-hatch? I feel like that's the only time I've seen something like that work but only on 2 player maps where overlord scouting paths are much more predictable.

edit: waaay back in 2010 flash did a 5rax vs jaedong in OSL final to catch scouting overlord vs a 12hatch:



he also did it vs jaedong on heartbreak ridge:

Free Palestine
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3091 Posts
March 20 2024 19:32 GMT
#96
On March 21 2024 01:36 Destroyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 09:08 TMNT wrote:
I too feel like Sharp is a bit under the radar at the moment. Probably because he's been camping in K League for so long so hasn't made many headlines. But every time I saw him it felt like this guys at least on par if not better than Rush and Royal.

To verify, a quick check on his win rates in all games since last November shows: 60% vs Bisu, 69% vs Hero, 54% vs Rush, 53% vs Mini, 67% vs Mind, 80% vs JYJ, 45% vs Action, 71% vs Royal and 31% vs Snow. Pretty sick, although unfortunate for him that he's in the same group with Snow and Action.


Out of curiosity, since im unable to watch daily proleagues much recently. Why was RoyaL trying to beat Hero with that somehow risky middle map rack strategy (unlike usual placement on natural), I found him in recent year to be quite all round consistent terran vs zerg relying on mostly standard games. He was being recently beated by Hero (who is to be honest in great shape from what I seen recently) a lot, so he decided to go risky and agressive in bo1 scenario?

Can't be sure but Royal is 3-7 against Hero in their last 10 games so that might play a part.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-21 12:29:02
March 21 2024 12:26 GMT
#97
On March 19 2024 21:39 TMNT wrote:
Mini lost that insane first game and probably was so pissed off that he decided to turn on his berserk mode. He did that many times in major proleagues before. The kind of 'in your face' play that screams "you know what I'm about to do but I'm just gonna kill you because my hands work faster".

That said, he already won this season for me because of that insane first game. Truly knife vs gun stuff.


based mini

also as far as least likeable, that can't be mini. unless you don't find micro one-of-a-kind acrobatics, unique builds and daring, dare i say, perverted? maneuvers, attacks and harass unlikable???

clearly, herO is the least likeable player. he is starting to show a new side imo, but he is basically hydra bust in zvp: the player. his zvt never seemed to match up well against top top top tier terran like active flash, light, last etc. and his zvz is good but meh.

also mind made me a fan in that ro16 group selection ceremony. bro was not even paying attention half the time and his attitude was so zen, haha.

interesting ro16 so far...
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-22 00:11:58
March 22 2024 00:08 GMT
#98
On March 19 2024 21:01 TMNT wrote:
Royal still hasn't won a single map in Ro16 since his championship. Maybe he's actually the bigger fluke compared to JYJ.

I'd say he definitely is. I actually love Royal, but mostly because he looked so funny with his cheeky grin as he pulled out disgusting cheese after disgusting cheese to win a whole goddamn ASL. That's probably not fair to his whole run but I distinctly remember him absolutely destroying a good Zerg (I think Soulkey or Hero from memory...) with crazy new strats. Straight-up I think JYJ is definitely stronger.
The original Bogus fan.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1964 Posts
March 22 2024 03:07 GMT
#99
On March 21 2024 00:19 Ideas wrote:
This group is a great case of why mini is my fav player lol

Same.

iRkSupperman
Profile Joined October 2022
Norway139 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-22 07:22:29
March 22 2024 07:22 GMT
#100
Mini has had Royal on farm and mental edge in ASL ever since those seasons with Revolver, 12 Nexus Carrier, and flying around killing CCs to win.

One of the best modern tournament players.
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