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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8496 Posts
February 28 2024 12:47 GMT
#41
On February 28 2024 21:25 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Action's ZvT is way too good with all his small little mind games. Ssak was completely off as a result.

Remember RJB , he trained with Flash for many years !!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1836 Posts
February 28 2024 13:45 GMT
#42
so as Zerg do u only need 2 bases to beat a terran below tip top level? you could argue ssak couldve gone into a faster starport, but that would also mean less ground units and action couldve transitioned quicker into his lurkers.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3091 Posts
February 28 2024 14:07 GMT
#43
On February 28 2024 22:45 CicadaSC wrote:
so as Zerg do u only need 2 bases to beat a terran below tip top level? you could argue ssak couldve gone into a faster starport, but that would also mean less ground units and action couldve transitioned quicker into his lurkers.

Well you need god like Muta micro too, and probably a favored spawning position. It also helps that half of sSak's ground army was out on the map looking for... nothing.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1043 Posts
February 28 2024 14:14 GMT
#44
no upsets yet. makes me fear for JyJ, Jaedong, Snow, RoyaL and Rain as every season over the past 2 years has had at least two upsets.
JDON MY SOUL!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3091 Posts
February 28 2024 15:00 GMT
#45
On February 28 2024 23:14 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
no upsets yet. makes me fear for JyJ, Jaedong, Snow, RoyaL and Rain as every season over the past 2 years has had at least two upsets.

I can see Snow dying to two cheeses in a row from Speed and Shine
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1043 Posts
February 28 2024 15:06 GMT
#46
On February 29 2024 00:00 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2024 23:14 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
no upsets yet. makes me fear for JyJ, Jaedong, Snow, RoyaL and Rain as every season over the past 2 years has had at least two upsets.

I can see Snow dying to two cheeses in a row from Speed and Shine

I much rather see Speed succeed than any of the others in that grouo. Man has potential.
JDON MY SOUL!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
February 28 2024 15:20 GMT
#47
On February 29 2024 00:00 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2024 23:14 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
no upsets yet. makes me fear for JyJ, Jaedong, Snow, RoyaL and Rain as every season over the past 2 years has had at least two upsets.

I can see Snow dying to two cheeses in a row from Speed and Shine

Hopefuly not.. that would be awful for the level of play in the tournament.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1836 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-28 16:16:48
February 28 2024 16:16 GMT
#48
On February 28 2024 23:07 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2024 22:45 CicadaSC wrote:
so as Zerg do u only need 2 bases to beat a terran below tip top level? you could argue ssak couldve gone into a faster starport, but that would also mean less ground units and action couldve transitioned quicker into his lurkers.

Well you need god like Muta micro too, and probably a favored spawning position. It also helps that half of sSak's ground army was out on the map looking for... nothing.

tbf to ssak he was looking for a third base which wasnt there. i feel like a moveout like this especially off 4 rax opener is incredibly common. who goes 4 rax and turtles?
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13295 Posts
February 28 2024 23:31 GMT
#49
Painful final loss for Ssak. He completely misread what Action was up to.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1043 Posts
February 29 2024 00:04 GMT
#50
On February 29 2024 01:16 CicadaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2024 23:07 TMNT wrote:
On February 28 2024 22:45 CicadaSC wrote:
so as Zerg do u only need 2 bases to beat a terran below tip top level? you could argue ssak couldve gone into a faster starport, but that would also mean less ground units and action couldve transitioned quicker into his lurkers.

Well you need god like Muta micro too, and probably a favored spawning position. It also helps that half of sSak's ground army was out on the map looking for... nothing.

tbf to ssak he was looking for a third base which wasnt there. i feel like a moveout like this especially off 4 rax opener is incredibly common. who goes 4 rax and turtles?


Action's known as a mind gamer among korean pros. He's known as a macro zerg amongst foreigners.
JDON MY SOUL!
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3079 Posts
February 29 2024 02:36 GMT
#51
Best is best
aingel
Profile Joined February 2024
2 Posts
February 29 2024 16:35 GMT
#52
On February 29 2024 00:00 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2024 23:14 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
no upsets yet. makes me fear for JyJ, Jaedong, Snow, RoyaL and Rain as every season over the past 2 years has had at least two upsets.

I can see Snow dying to two cheeses in a row from Speed and Shine

I hope not! I really wish Snow wins an ASL this year! He deserves it
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1043 Posts
March 01 2024 00:46 GMT
#53
On March 01 2024 01:35 aingel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2024 00:00 TMNT wrote:
On February 28 2024 23:14 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
no upsets yet. makes me fear for JyJ, Jaedong, Snow, RoyaL and Rain as every season over the past 2 years has had at least two upsets.

I can see Snow dying to two cheeses in a row from Speed and Shine

I hope not! I really wish Snow wins an ASL this year! He deserves it

oh no! by saying that you're increasing the chances snow will lose >_<
JDON MY SOUL!
ruhtraeel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada125 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-01 10:55:42
March 01 2024 10:55 GMT
#54
I can't think of another player as imbalanced as Ssak. If you only looked at his TvT, he would look like one of the best players in the world, with incredible macro, army movement and micro as well. But then he plays any other matchup like TvZ and barely even looks like an S rank player. In a previous ASL against Queen, he was clearly ahead but then floated 1k minerals 7 minutes in and lost, and in this round, he has a group of marines desperately trying to look for a non-existent 3rd base being completely useless
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1043 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-01 14:00:04
March 01 2024 13:32 GMT
#55
On March 01 2024 19:55 ruhtraeel wrote:
I can't think of another player as imbalanced as Ssak. If you only looked at his TvT, he would look like one of the best players in the world, with incredible macro, army movement and micro as well. But then he plays any other matchup like TvZ and barely even looks like an S rank player. In a previous ASL against Queen, he was clearly ahead but then floated 1k minerals 7 minutes in and lost, and in this round, he has a group of marines desperately trying to look for a non-existent 3rd base being completely useless

Ssak is weird. sometimes his tvz and tvp look god tier as long as he gets to pull off small mind games to get small advantagesm if he is on the receiving end of small mind games he falls apart.

When he gets a spot in major proleague he generally does quite well. He had an all kill somewhere in 2023.
JDON MY SOUL!
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria378 Posts
March 01 2024 15:22 GMT
#56
Absolute snoozefest in all 3 groups. Not a single notable game. The young blood just can't compete and it's depressing.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3079 Posts
March 01 2024 17:06 GMT
#57
On March 01 2024 01:35 aingel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2024 00:00 TMNT wrote:
On February 28 2024 23:14 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
no upsets yet. makes me fear for JyJ, Jaedong, Snow, RoyaL and Rain as every season over the past 2 years has had at least two upsets.

I can see Snow dying to two cheeses in a row from Speed and Shine

I hope not! I really wish Snow wins an ASL this year! He deserves it



I hope Best wins :D
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8145 Posts
March 02 2024 17:38 GMT
#58
Teangu played well for an amateur but was just out-classed by his opponents. You can REALLY see the difference between pros and amateurs in these games. I hope we see more of him in future tournaments. Remember how soma lost his first few Ro24 appearances before taking off really well? Hopefully that will happen again with a couple of these ammeters in the near future.
Free Palestine
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1043 Posts
March 02 2024 18:52 GMT
#59
On March 03 2024 02:38 Ideas wrote:
Teangu played well for an amateur but was just out-classed by his opponents. You can REALLY see the difference between pros and amateurs in these games. I hope we see more of him in future tournaments. Remember how soma lost his first few Ro24 appearances before taking off really well? Hopefully that will happen again with a couple of these ammeters in the near future.


I actually think TY is going to surprise us in group D and proceed with Jaedong.
Likewise Speed has a good chance he will do well in E. I take Speed over Shine and Speed/Mong can go any direction. SnOw though seems certain to go through.
JDON MY SOUL!
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
March 02 2024 21:13 GMT
#60
On March 03 2024 03:52 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2024 02:38 Ideas wrote:
Teangu played well for an amateur but was just out-classed by his opponents. You can REALLY see the difference between pros and amateurs in these games. I hope we see more of him in future tournaments. Remember how soma lost his first few Ro24 appearances before taking off really well? Hopefully that will happen again with a couple of these ammeters in the near future.


I actually think TY is going to surprise us in group D and proceed with Jaedong.
Likewise Speed has a good chance he will do well in E. I take Speed over Shine and Speed/Mong can go any direction. SnOw though seems certain to go through.


Dude... You seem to not know anything about ASL. None of these dudes will go on to the next round, maybe Snow if he would manage to break the cycle of time itself... The others, I mean, who are you kidding, they will play about as well as Sea... But yea, I appreciate your very positive outlook for... something else...
its me
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