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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
September 25 2023 02:25 GMT
#2
Send Mini your energy! The hope of Aiur lives on.
My strategy is to fork people.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 25 2023 02:37 GMT
#3
hype
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
September 25 2023 05:51 GMT
#4
Go Mini!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8025 Posts
September 25 2023 06:42 GMT
#5
Please Mini ! Do this for AIUR !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines553 Posts
September 25 2023 07:54 GMT
#6
i’m from char but i give my energy to aiur, mini please kill the possibility of a 3rd tvt finals
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4989 Posts
September 25 2023 08:56 GMT
#7
I wanna see chaos both ways. I'm excited. Mind games ensu(r)ed!
FBH #1!
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-25 09:31:50
September 25 2023 09:30 GMT
#8
On the one hand, I am in favor of rotating participants in the semi-finals/finals and winners.
Mini was in the final 3 times and became the winner 1 time.
Sharp was in the final only once. Back in season 1, where he lost to Shuttle. Therefore, logically, I should root for him.
But on the other hand, I (and not only I think) do not want the 3rd TvsT Final ASL in a row. And this could be. Rush can beat SoulKey, and Sharp can beat Action/Effort.

May the best man win.

P.s. give me some cheese , BBs or 2gate center))
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2709 Posts
September 25 2023 09:49 GMT
#9
Mini already won ASL so I don't really care much if he advances or not. At this point I just want another TvT finals just for the banter hehe
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-25 09:59:05
September 25 2023 09:58 GMT
#10
mini is the most recent protoss ASL champ, following rain beating snow in the finals (instead of flash). if mini advances, there is potential for an effort rematch and a rush finals rematch, OR two banger pvzs in a row. mini simply has to win for the story lines. also in ro8 and beyond sharp talks tough in interviews about his mentality, positive thinking, coaching etc. but besides his scrappy tvt where his flanking and mech micro is amazing, he seems to lack the mentality of a champion in the other mus
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2007 Posts
September 25 2023 10:02 GMT
#11
Prepare for Blunt Farce Trauma.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
September 25 2023 10:02 GMT
#12
Mini for the win!
Sorusaba
Profile Joined October 2017
276 Posts
September 25 2023 10:03 GMT
#13
Hype. Hoping for a perverted and farcical match. Bathe the do-gooder in chaos, Mini!!
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 25 2023 10:04 GMT
#14
lol i love how they showed a clip from sharp vs last. in the interview sharp was talking about yoga and being healthy and last was like "i can't touch my toes, but i'll let my game play do the talking" then crushed him. that was a great series.
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
September 25 2023 10:09 GMT
#15
Sharp looks like a businessman with 2 kids
sup
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-25 10:14:07
September 25 2023 10:11 GMT
#16
On September 25 2023 19:09 Zariel wrote:
Sharp looks like a businessman with 2 kids


tbh his hair looks so much better like this xd

lol wait, sharp's chosen song is just the bw terran theme?
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
September 25 2023 10:13 GMT
#17
Nice soundtrack Sharp
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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 25 2023 10:18 GMT
#18
mini proxy??
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8025 Posts
September 25 2023 10:20 GMT
#19
That vulture man....
Wasted a lot of mining time
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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 25 2023 10:20 GMT
#20
sharp double expanding. dts are gonna go crazy?
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8025 Posts
September 25 2023 10:21 GMT
#21
Sharp is playing sharp today
he founds the hidden templar archive
mini looks so down
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 25 2023 10:22 GMT
#22
rip
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8025 Posts
September 25 2023 10:24 GMT
#23
Sharp is taking his 4th already...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 25 2023 10:31 GMT
#24
mini up 40 supply. storm drops cutting sharp's legs out from under him. lfg ^.^
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
September 25 2023 10:35 GMT
#25
Nice drop+storms from Mini
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Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
September 25 2023 10:37 GMT
#26
3/3 vs 2/0/0 oO
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Sorusaba
Profile Joined October 2017
276 Posts
September 25 2023 10:38 GMT
#27
Mini tried hard to make it a chaotic game and bring it back, but an excellent early and midgame effort as well as serviceable defense allowed Sharp to power through.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8025 Posts
September 25 2023 10:38 GMT
#28
I think if they start with resonable equal openings and neither has a decisive advantage (like 12 nexus vs proxy rax), mini has this !
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redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
September 25 2023 10:43 GMT
#29
On September 25 2023 19:38 prosatan wrote:
I think if they start with resonable equal openings and neither has a decisive advantage (like 12 nexus vs proxy rax), mini has this !

disagree, Sharp has advantage if he can survive the opening

that being said, very very lucky that he got hit with cross-spawn but got in w his vultures

but after that his (reckless?) expanding and shaky defense did give Mini a chance (but Mini didn't have the best engage at the 3rd base)
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-25 10:44:59
September 25 2023 10:44 GMT
#30
predict a ton of nexus first on 4 player maps, Sharp is bad at cheese

also expecting gash steals
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
September 25 2023 10:44 GMT
#31
Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Mini Game 1?

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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-25 10:49:06
September 25 2023 10:48 GMT
#32
bamboozled

edit: caught sharp lacking in 4K
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
September 25 2023 10:52 GMT
#33
sharp marine control vs zealots so garbage lol
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8025 Posts
September 25 2023 10:53 GMT
#34
mini is in a good spot
sharp is making a wraith to counter the shuttle
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8025 Posts
September 25 2023 10:55 GMT
#35
here comes the push!
come on mini ! focus
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8025 Posts
September 25 2023 10:56 GMT
#36
both wraiths sniped
vulture does a bit of damage
and GG
1-1 LFG mini!
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
September 25 2023 10:56 GMT
#37
Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Mini Game 2?

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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 25 2023 10:56 GMT
#38
^.^
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
September 25 2023 10:57 GMT
#39
Mini so relentless
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Sorusaba
Profile Joined October 2017
276 Posts
September 25 2023 10:57 GMT
#40
Exactly the type of chaos I expected, WP Mini
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
September 25 2023 10:59 GMT
#41
Light complaining that Mini's zealots seem to have a ranged attack

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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-25 11:01:43
September 25 2023 11:01 GMT
#42
On September 25 2023 19:59 redknights wrote:
Light complaining that Mini's zealots seem to have a ranged attack

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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
September 25 2023 11:02 GMT
#43
that build is like the hydra bust of PvT, terran just struggling to micro and survive while protoss ains map control and expos uncontested
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2709 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-25 11:08:43
September 25 2023 11:03 GMT
#44
Typical Mini outdoing himself. Like you got cross spawn Nexus first in game 1, what else do you need lmao, why followed it up with a wank strategy.

Side note: if you guys want some fun you should watch Mini playing Terran. He makes Fantasy's play look tame. Double Dropships and shits like that lol.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-25 11:11:15
September 25 2023 11:08 GMT
#45
stimulants are extremely common in esports tournaments. in fact, a valorant team got in trouble for using dip during a match. other games allow tobacco, and caffeine is widely abused including pills. and that's not even mentioning unprescribed addy etc.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 25 2023 11:16 GMT
#46
mini's goons are looking best in class, besides maybe rain. vintage bisu vibes
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8025 Posts
September 25 2023 11:22 GMT
#47
mini loses both reavers to mines :/
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
September 25 2023 11:28 GMT
#48
replay broken lmfaooooo

also carriers good unit
Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
September 25 2023 11:28 GMT
#49
really sick series
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 25 2023 11:29 GMT
#50
mini using time travel now to defeat sharp. is he too powerful?
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8025 Posts
September 25 2023 11:30 GMT
#51
yessssssssss!!! What a game
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
September 25 2023 11:30 GMT
#52
Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Mini Game 3?

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17%

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
September 25 2023 11:30 GMT
#53
thats an assclench of a game
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
September 25 2023 11:31 GMT
#54
Brilliant game. Where did mini get all those units from?!
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2709 Posts
September 25 2023 11:34 GMT
#55
We need more Sharp vs Mini games. Total chaos. Even the replay goes along with their crazyness lmao. This has become one of the classic series ever in ASL.
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
September 25 2023 11:35 GMT
#56
These games are crazy good.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 25 2023 11:40 GMT
#57
On September 25 2023 20:34 TMNT wrote:
We need more Sharp vs Mini games. Total chaos. Even the replay goes along with their crazyness lmao. This has become one of the classic series ever in ASL.


mini might get tilted if it goes to game 5 and he picks the wrong bo and falls behind. this is his best chance to win
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
September 25 2023 11:53 GMT
#58
BRO MINI WHY ARE YOU COMITTING TO THIS ATTACK!
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
September 25 2023 11:54 GMT
#59
watching mini on invader is such a pain.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
September 25 2023 11:54 GMT
#60
and he gets lucky on the movement now.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
September 25 2023 11:55 GMT
#61
thats ee han timing on the move up
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8025 Posts
September 25 2023 11:55 GMT
#62
GGGGGGGG

HURRAYYYYYY MINI!!!!!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-25 11:56:15
September 25 2023 11:55 GMT
#63
lol. based mini~

he looks happy ^.^
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
September 25 2023 11:55 GMT
#64
Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Mini Game 4?

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64%

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36%

No (0)
 
0%

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
September 25 2023 11:56 GMT
#65
On September 25 2023 20:55 whylessness wrote:
lol. BASED MINI


that attack started so bad, then sharp moved and everything went right.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
September 25 2023 11:56 GMT
#66
Another reverse sweep.SK vs Mini final is loading.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
September 25 2023 11:57 GMT
#67
Very impressive again there from mini. Turned a potentially pretty hairy situation there into a dominant win with some great decisions.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
September 25 2023 11:57 GMT
#68
LWWW like jaedong.

most importantly no TvT Finals.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2709 Posts
September 25 2023 11:59 GMT
#69
Disappointing final game. Too standard. Boo.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2007 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-25 12:00:13
September 25 2023 11:59 GMT
#70
Nice, Mini looked pretty solid, except in the first game, which was his own fault.

Looking forward to the semis!
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-25 12:01:02
September 25 2023 12:00 GMT
#71
Light: sorry to Sharp but he had to lose in order for Terrans not to die next ASL



Mini knew he could exploit Sharp's biggest weaknesses, bad cheese rushing vs nexus first + poor marine control v zealots

Never let it get to an even midgame in all of his wins

Even the first game you could make a point that he won the opening until he goofed with the vulture getting into his base
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic931 Posts
September 25 2023 12:02 GMT
#72
Mini is so used and extremely experienced in these base trade scenarios and carrier struggles. I dont see any P in pro scene being like this and that makes it nearly impossible to practice against as terran player.
Really a bliss and highly enjoyable to see such player.
never too old for starcraft :)
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 25 2023 12:03 GMT
#73
the vulture in game 1 was entering his natural probably 1 or 2 seconds before the cannon finished. if the cannon had fired on the vulture as it entered mini's base, that game might have been completely different. but that is mini's characteristic greed over safety style. live by the sword, die by the sword.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2709 Posts
September 25 2023 12:10 GMT
#74
On September 25 2023 21:02 Destroyer wrote:
Mini is so used and extremely experienced in these base trade scenarios and carrier struggles. I dont see any P in pro scene being like this and that makes it nearly impossible to practice against as terran player.
Really a bliss and highly enjoyable to see such player.

He had a couple of games vs Royal that he won with crazy base trade scenario like that. One of them he won with 1 Pylon left on the map, the other he was down 100 supply with Terran max on 5 bases, and there is always that famous ASL12 games.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
September 25 2023 12:41 GMT
#75
LEGEND OF THE FALL !

beautiful stuff, GGs
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
September 25 2023 12:43 GMT
#76
fantastic series of games, too

peak Brood War awesomesauce.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4989 Posts
September 25 2023 14:38 GMT
#77
Very intense first 3 games, wish I could have watched this live.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4989 Posts
September 25 2023 14:39 GMT
#78
Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Mini Game 5?

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33%

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33%

If you have time (5)
 
33%

15 total votes

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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4989 Posts
September 25 2023 14:42 GMT
#79
On September 25 2023 20:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
LWWW like jaedong.

most importantly no TvT Finals.

What we all hoped for. Mini the savior.
FBH #1!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2709 Posts
September 25 2023 16:24 GMT
#80
On September 25 2023 19:11 whylessness wrote:
lol wait, sharp's chosen song is just the bw terran theme?

He also chose that theme for his wedding and refers to his wife as "medic". Guy is dedicated.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2848 Posts
September 25 2023 17:32 GMT
#81
O get dunked on.

This is a great ro4 so far. GJ Mini! You took your vitamins.
aka wilted_kale
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States342 Posts
September 25 2023 20:13 GMT
#82
Damn I was hoping Mini would out choke Sharp... Sharp was playing well in the first game and then Mini just cranked it up. This side of the bracket's Ro4 will be more interesting at least. Maybe we get a return of the Legend of the Fall?
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
September 26 2023 06:49 GMT
#83
Was bummed to see Sharp lose like that in the 4th game but… I was rooting for Mini to win overall. Glad a protoss lives on! GGs
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4095 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-26 09:36:55
September 26 2023 09:36 GMT
#84
Pretty sick match
Wouldn't have been unhappy with either outcome. Sharp would've deserved a win, but so does Mini. Plus it's good to have a protoss advance.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1543 Posts
September 26 2023 14:52 GMT
#85
That was a nice series, delighted to see Mini looking to be on form, in the group stage he looked lucky enough to get out. Great to see one of each race so far in the Ro4 too.
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria370 Posts
September 26 2023 14:53 GMT
#86
On September 25 2023 19:59 redknights wrote:
Light complaining that Mini's zealots seem to have a ranged attack

[image loading]


Was legit thinking the same thing.
Then again Mini is the Zealot lord in my opinion, old Bisu level of Zealot shenanigans.
That's how he won his ASL during the darkest time for P vs Z.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-26 15:57:58
September 26 2023 15:55 GMT
#87
That screenshot makes me curious how that would look like in 1.16.1 (original) graphics. The probe looks really chunky in comparison to the zealot. The new graphics may make the reach look even more exaggerated than it is.
FBH #1!
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2848 Posts
September 26 2023 16:29 GMT
#88
The probe looks normal. The zealot looks quite skinny. Weird angle/shot %%
aka wilted_kale
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria370 Posts
September 26 2023 18:18 GMT
#89
Also, Light looks happy the zealot isn't stabbing his shooty boys.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
September 26 2023 19:15 GMT
#90
What was the glitch in game3? Looks like Mini's AI lost control for 2 minutes... Then it switched to the normal game when 2 reavers appeared. Can someone explain it?
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-26 19:45:32
September 26 2023 19:45 GMT
#91
On September 27 2023 04:15 Jenia6109 wrote:
What was the glitch in game3? Looks like Mini's AI lost control for 2 minutes... Then it switched to the normal game when 2 reavers appeared. Can someone explain it?

Live game obsing can break like a replay ever since remastered I believe. ASL noticed it quick enough to switch observer stream, so it didn't really matter for the live broadcast.
FBH #1!
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
September 27 2023 09:24 GMT
#92
On September 27 2023 04:45 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2023 04:15 Jenia6109 wrote:
What was the glitch in game3? Looks like Mini's AI lost control for 2 minutes... Then it switched to the normal game when 2 reavers appeared. Can someone explain it?

Live game obsing can break like a replay ever since remastered I believe. ASL noticed it quick enough to switch observer stream, so it didn't really matter for the live broadcast.

Thanks, this explains so much!
INnoVation TY Maru | Classic Stats Dear sOs Zest herO | Rogue Dark soO
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-27 19:50:24
September 27 2023 19:46 GMT
#93


2:30 Mini kills JyJ's marine from a distance while attacking a bunker and not even facing the right direction

also 12:30 JyJ goes to check the replay and curses
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-27 21:07:17
September 27 2023 20:45 GMT
#94
That seems related to how a sunken can have insane range. Switch target during animation to achieve higher range.

Edit: Marine had exactly 8 health left, unfortunately the replay doesn't show the bunker health before and after the last attack when the rine died, but psi-blades do 2x8 dmg. I'm pretty sure the first 8 dmg went on the bunker. I've read on TL before that you can split the dmg of zealot if you switch targets at the right moment, because it consists of 2 attacks. Useful when fighting zerglings (or marines for the same reason) with 0/0/0 zealots for example.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4989 Posts
September 27 2023 21:08 GMT
#95
5*8 = 40
5*8 > 35
4*8 < 35
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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 28 2023 00:47 GMT
#96
On September 28 2023 05:45 Peeano wrote:
That seems related to how a sunken can have insane range. Switch target during animation to achieve higher range.

Edit: Marine had exactly 8 health left, unfortunately the replay doesn't show the bunker health before and after the last attack when the rine died, but psi-blades do 2x8 dmg. I'm pretty sure the first 8 dmg went on the bunker. I've read on TL before that you can split the dmg of zealot if you switch targets at the right moment, because it consists of 2 attacks. Useful when fighting zerglings (or marines for the same reason) with 0/0/0 zealots for example.


actually i thought sunkens sometimes have insane range because of a tournament legal glitch where zergs are able to manually target stuff they shouldn't be able to, mostly relevant during cannon rushes.
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-28 11:55:12
September 28 2023 11:51 GMT
#97
I'm currently fantasizing about 2 time asl champion Mini.

Legend of the fall.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4989 Posts
September 28 2023 12:26 GMT
#98
On September 28 2023 09:47 whylessness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2023 05:45 Peeano wrote:
That seems related to how a sunken can have insane range. Switch target during animation to achieve higher range.

Edit: Marine had exactly 8 health left, unfortunately the replay doesn't show the bunker health before and after the last attack when the rine died, but psi-blades do 2x8 dmg. I'm pretty sure the first 8 dmg went on the bunker. I've read on TL before that you can split the dmg of zealot if you switch targets at the right moment, because it consists of 2 attacks. Useful when fighting zerglings (or marines for the same reason) with 0/0/0 zealots for example.


actually i thought sunkens sometimes have insane range because of a tournament legal glitch where zergs are able to manually target stuff they shouldn't be able to, mostly relevant during cannon rushes.

True, but the being attacked thing is a prerequisite in this excessive range occuring. I just dug through the YT comments and most upvoted comments are saying the same things there. The window in which this can occur seems very small. Cannon attack and sunken attack are both long animation, so that's likely why it can be easily manually manipulated.

Check this clip of 3 goons shooting back a tank at excessive range during being hit animation:


To not go too far off-topic with this: the screenshot redknights posted of Mini vs Sharp Game 2 is during the second part of the zealot's attack animation and it's zoomed in for extra dramatic effect. It's not a case of excessive range.
FBH #1!
Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
September 28 2023 14:24 GMT
#99
On September 28 2023 21:26 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2023 09:47 whylessness wrote:
On September 28 2023 05:45 Peeano wrote:
That seems related to how a sunken can have insane range. Switch target during animation to achieve higher range.

Edit: Marine had exactly 8 health left, unfortunately the replay doesn't show the bunker health before and after the last attack when the rine died, but psi-blades do 2x8 dmg. I'm pretty sure the first 8 dmg went on the bunker. I've read on TL before that you can split the dmg of zealot if you switch targets at the right moment, because it consists of 2 attacks. Useful when fighting zerglings (or marines for the same reason) with 0/0/0 zealots for example.


actually i thought sunkens sometimes have insane range because of a tournament legal glitch where zergs are able to manually target stuff they shouldn't be able to, mostly relevant during cannon rushes.

True, but the being attacked thing is a prerequisite in this excessive range occuring. I just dug through the YT comments and most upvoted comments are saying the same things there. The window in which this can occur seems very small. Cannon attack and sunken attack are both long animation, so that's likely why it can be easily manually manipulated.

Check this clip of 3 goons shooting back a tank at excessive range during being hit animation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dS72AclYNg&t=16s

To not go too far off-topic with this: the screenshot redknights posted of Mini vs Sharp Game 2 is during the second part of the zealot's attack animation and it's zoomed in for extra dramatic effect. It's not a case of excessive range.


what the hell? lol
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria370 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-28 14:52:32
September 28 2023 14:50 GMT
#100
On September 28 2023 21:26 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2023 09:47 whylessness wrote:
On September 28 2023 05:45 Peeano wrote:
That seems related to how a sunken can have insane range. Switch target during animation to achieve higher range.

Edit: Marine had exactly 8 health left, unfortunately the replay doesn't show the bunker health before and after the last attack when the rine died, but psi-blades do 2x8 dmg. I'm pretty sure the first 8 dmg went on the bunker. I've read on TL before that you can split the dmg of zealot if you switch targets at the right moment, because it consists of 2 attacks. Useful when fighting zerglings (or marines for the same reason) with 0/0/0 zealots for example.


actually i thought sunkens sometimes have insane range because of a tournament legal glitch where zergs are able to manually target stuff they shouldn't be able to, mostly relevant during cannon rushes.

True, but the being attacked thing is a prerequisite in this excessive range occuring. I just dug through the YT comments and most upvoted comments are saying the same things there. The window in which this can occur seems very small. Cannon attack and sunken attack are both long animation, so that's likely why it can be easily manually manipulated.

Check this clip of 3 goons shooting back a tank at excessive range during being hit animation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dS72AclYNg&t=16s

To not go too far off-topic with this: the screenshot redknights posted of Mini vs Sharp Game 2 is during the second part of the zealot's attack animation and it's zoomed in for extra dramatic effect. It's not a case of excessive range.

Maybe that was Fenix?

That Dragoon be shooting at God fam, smh.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 28 2023 17:28 GMT
#101
On September 28 2023 04:46 redknights wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2txDKx-yaA

2:30 Mini kills JyJ's marine from a distance while attacking a bunker and not even facing the right direction

also 12:30 JyJ goes to check the replay and curses


Now I know why Mini has long fingernails... to reach enemies from unreachable distances.
sunbeams are never made like me...
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
September 29 2023 05:38 GMT
#102
Besides the Vulture run by in game 1 Mini looked a mile ahead of Sharp in Skill. Just a smacking.
Artosis loves Starcraft
psd
Profile Joined February 2016
France91 Posts
September 29 2023 06:55 GMT
#103
oh i remember this bug, i think it has something to do with zealot 2 hit attack. The 2nd hit doesn't have a target or something.
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