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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3356 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-21 13:47:05
December 21 2023 13:46 GMT
#961
On a different note, the new ASL map Blitz Y has like a bridge of Khazad Dum on it lol. A narrow but lengthy pathway where only one big unit can fit through. Must be a nightmare to play on ladder if it ever makes it in.
bochs
Profile Joined February 2022
122 Posts
December 21 2023 17:49 GMT
#962
On December 21 2023 22:39 TMNT wrote:
Just want to add a sort of trivia: talking about players who don't care, Soulkey is actually the notable one. He literally skipped one ASL because he thought it wasn't worth the effort. Playing the least amount of games among the MPL players, offracing on ladder, moaning about Zerg balance, and playing a lot of LOL... And on the other end of the Zerg spectrum we have Soma training his ass off.


How is Soulkey moaning about Zerg balance? I watch his MPL every day, and his ZvP and ZvT win rates are easily at 70% if not higher. The only variance may be ZvZ, but he can't blame balance on that one
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3356 Posts
December 21 2023 19:31 GMT
#963
On December 22 2023 02:49 bochs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2023 22:39 TMNT wrote:
Just want to add a sort of trivia: talking about players who don't care, Soulkey is actually the notable one. He literally skipped one ASL because he thought it wasn't worth the effort. Playing the least amount of games among the MPL players, offracing on ladder, moaning about Zerg balance, and playing a lot of LOL... And on the other end of the Zerg spectrum we have Soma training his ass off.


How is Soulkey moaning about Zerg balance? I watch his MPL every day, and his ZvP and ZvT win rates are easily at 70% if not higher. The only variance may be ZvZ, but he can't blame balance on that one

Well his moaning is more or less tongue in cheek and certainly before ASL. Also could mean 'Zerg bad but I'm that good' lol
bochs
Profile Joined February 2022
122 Posts
December 21 2023 21:19 GMT
#964
On December 22 2023 04:31 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2023 02:49 bochs wrote:
On December 21 2023 22:39 TMNT wrote:
Just want to add a sort of trivia: talking about players who don't care, Soulkey is actually the notable one. He literally skipped one ASL because he thought it wasn't worth the effort. Playing the least amount of games among the MPL players, offracing on ladder, moaning about Zerg balance, and playing a lot of LOL... And on the other end of the Zerg spectrum we have Soma training his ass off.


How is Soulkey moaning about Zerg balance? I watch his MPL every day, and his ZvP and ZvT win rates are easily at 70% if not higher. The only variance may be ZvZ, but he can't blame balance on that one

Well his moaning is more or less tongue in cheek and certainly before ASL. Also could mean 'Zerg bad but I'm that good' lol


Soulkey's late game macro is insane. Interestingly however, I notice that in some high-stake games (e.g., ASL), he often completely changes his style, and resorts to early game aggression instead. Did he ever offer an explanation for that? Why would he risk a play style that he's not familiar with, whereas he could otherwise score an easier win with his masterful late game strategy?
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3356 Posts
December 21 2023 22:47 GMT
#965
On December 22 2023 06:19 bochs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2023 04:31 TMNT wrote:
On December 22 2023 02:49 bochs wrote:
On December 21 2023 22:39 TMNT wrote:
Just want to add a sort of trivia: talking about players who don't care, Soulkey is actually the notable one. He literally skipped one ASL because he thought it wasn't worth the effort. Playing the least amount of games among the MPL players, offracing on ladder, moaning about Zerg balance, and playing a lot of LOL... And on the other end of the Zerg spectrum we have Soma training his ass off.


How is Soulkey moaning about Zerg balance? I watch his MPL every day, and his ZvP and ZvT win rates are easily at 70% if not higher. The only variance may be ZvZ, but he can't blame balance on that one

Well his moaning is more or less tongue in cheek and certainly before ASL. Also could mean 'Zerg bad but I'm that good' lol


Soulkey's late game macro is insane. Interestingly however, I notice that in some high-stake games (e.g., ASL), he often completely changes his style, and resorts to early game aggression instead. Did he ever offer an explanation for that? Why would he risk a play style that he's not familiar with, whereas he could otherwise score an easier win with his masterful late game strategy?

I doubt that he's not familiar with early aggression. He did a lot of 9 pool speed vs Bisu in the quarter finals a couple of seasons ago. The guy is responsible for 3 of the 4 shortest games in the history of ASL lol. He has a range of play. My take is he uses different styles vs different opponents. For example, against Mini who is probably the most dangerous player of any race in the first 5 mins of the game, it's probably not wise to engage on the multitasking battle with him, so late game strategy is the right way.
prion_
Profile Joined September 2022
80 Posts
December 22 2023 00:03 GMT
#966
Soulkey did mention vs. Rush that he felt his micro wasn't on point that day so he decided to go for ling all-ins (if the translation of his postgame interview is correct). I feel in general Soulkey goes for all-ins or tries to mix it up when he is feeling under pressure in a series.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3356 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-23 08:33:15
December 22 2023 13:50 GMT
#967
No more testing of new maps for today


MAJOR PROLEAGUE, DEC 22 2023

[Team A] Mini Best Snow Sharp Mind
vs [Team B] Stork Rush Soma Jaedong Effort

SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Mind <Tempest> Jaedong
Sharp <Retro> Effort
Snow <Polypoid> Rush
Best <Invader> Stork
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Mini <Apocalypse> Soma

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Mind <La Campanella> Soma

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Mini <Retro> Effort
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Mini <Invader> Soma

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Mini <Tempest> Stork

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Sharp <Polypoid> Stork

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Sharp <La Campanella> Rush

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Snow <Neo Dark Origin> Rush

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +
Best <Apocalypse> Rush

+ Show Spoiler [Game 8] +
Best <Apocalypse> Jaedong

+ Show Spoiler [Game 9] +
Mind <Polypoid> Jaedong


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Mind <Apocalypse> Effort


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Mind < Jaedong
Sharp > Effort
Snow > Rush
Best < Stork
Mini < Soma
Mind < Soma

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Mini > Effort
Mini > Soma
Mini < Stork
Sharp > Stork
Sharp < Rush
Snow < Rush
Best > Rush
Best < Jaedong
Mind > Jaedong

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
Mind took down Effort in the super ace
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3356 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-24 08:55:36
December 23 2023 12:50 GMT
#968


MAJOR PROLEAGUE, DEC 23 2023

[Team A] Mini Rain Mong Jaedong Effort
vs [Team B] Snow Shuttle Rush Mind sSak

SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Jaedong <Apocalypse> sSak
Rain <Blitz Y> Mind
Mini <Neo Dark Origin> Shuttle
Mong <Radeon> Snow
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Effort <Retro> Rush

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Jaedong <Troy> Mind

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SET 2 (PROLEAGUE)
Effort <Citadel> Shuttle
Mini <Troy> Rush
Jaedong <Blitz Y> sSak
Rain <Retro> Mind
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Mong <Radeon> Snow

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Rain <Apocalypse> Mind

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Mong <Citadel> Shuttle


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Jaedong > sSak
Rain < Mind
Mini > Shuttle
Mong < Snow
Effort < Rush
Jaedong < Mind

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Effort > Shuttle
Mini > Rush
Jaedong < sSak
Rain > Mind
Mong < Snow
Rain > Mind

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
Mong completed his 100% losing record in TvP today by losing to Shuttle in the super ace
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3356 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-12 16:24:04
December 24 2023 14:23 GMT
#969


MAJOR PROLEAGUE, DEC 24 2023

[Team A] Mini Stork Royal Mind Soulkey
vs [Team B] Best JYJ Sharp Soma Hero

SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Royal <Polypoid> Best
Stork <Invader> JYJ
Mind <Neo Dark Origin> Soma
Soulkey <La Campanella> Sharp
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Mini <Apocalypse> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Mind <Tempest> Best

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Royal <La Campanella> Best
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Royal <Retro> Sharp

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Royal <Tempest> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Mind <Polypoid> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Mind <Apocalypse> JYJ

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Mind <Invader> Soma

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +
Soulkey <Neo Dark Origin> Soma

+ Show Spoiler [Game 8] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 9] +


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Mind <Retro> Soma


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Royal < Best
Stork < JYJ
Mind < Soma
Soulkey > Sharp
Mini > Hero
Mind < Best

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Royal > Best
Royal > Sharp
Royal < Hero
Mind > Hero
Mind > JYJ
Mind < Soma
Soulkey > Soma

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
Mind with another super ace victory. Heartbreak for Soma as his last game before military service, a super ace nonetheless, ended in defeat

ronibez
Profile Joined March 2009
Hungary182 Posts
December 24 2023 14:32 GMT
#970
dont want to bump up any bisu thread

what happened with Bisu?
He has been streaming since early december?
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3356 Posts
December 24 2023 15:59 GMT
#971
On December 24 2023 23:32 ronibez wrote:
dont want to bump up any bisu thread

what happened with Bisu?
He has been streaming since early december?

Probably on vacation. Him and Rain are known for taking long stream breaks (longer than Action's retirement lol) out of nowhere.
Souden
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
December 24 2023 16:23 GMT
#972
On December 24 2023 23:32 ronibez wrote:
dont want to bump up any bisu thread

what happened with Bisu?
He has been streaming since early december?



Bisu is on a break until next year in 2024.


+ Show Spoiler +
Mind has been on proleague winning streak lately. I feel sorry for soma though, it's his last proleague before military enlistment and he didn't win . And now the zerg lineup has gotten even smaller.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3356 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-12 16:24:19
December 25 2023 12:21 GMT
#973


MAJOR PROLEAGUE, DEC 25 2023

[Team A] Mini Best Royal Queen
vs [Team B] Snow Mind Hero Sacsri

SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Best <Radeon> Sacsri
Queen <Retro> Hero
Royal <Citadel> Snow
Mini <Troy> Mind
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Queen <Neo Dark Origin> Sacsri

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Best <Retro> Hero
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Best <Blitz Y> Snow

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Queen <Troy> Snow

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Queen <Neo Dark Origin> Sacsri

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Queen <Citadel> Mind

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Queen <Retro> Hero


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Best < Sacsri
Queen < Hero
Royal < Snow
Mini > Mind
Queen < Sacsri

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Best > Hero
Best < Snow
Queen > Snow
Queen > Sacsri
Queen > Mind

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
Hero beat Queen in the super ace
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3356 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-12 16:25:37
December 26 2023 15:35 GMT
#974


MAJOR PROLEAGUE, DEC 26 2023

[Team A] Best Stork Rush Jaedong
vs [Team B] Light sSak Barracks Hero

SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Rush <Radeon> Light
Best <Apocalypse> Barracks
Jaedong <Blitz Y> Hero
Stork <Neo Dark Origin> sSak
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Jaedong <Troy> Barracks

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Rush <Citadel> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +
Rush <Retro> Hero


SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Jaedong <Radeon> Hero
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Rush <Troy> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Best <Blitz Y> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Best <Retro> sSak

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Stork <Neo Dark Origin> sSak

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Rush <Radeon> sSak


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Rush < Light
Best < Barracks
Jaedong < Hero
Stork > sSak
Jaedong > Barracks
Rush > Hero
Rush > Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Jaedong < Hero
Rush < Hero
Best > Hero
Best < sSak
Stork < sSak

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
sSak turned on his beast mode to finish set 2 and went on to win super ace himself
bochs
Profile Joined February 2022
122 Posts
December 27 2023 03:54 GMT
#975
On December 27 2023 00:35 TMNT wrote:



MAJOR PROLEAGUE, DEC 26 2023

[Team A] Best Stork Rush Jaedong
vs [Team B] Light sSak Barracks Hero

SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Rush <Radeon> Light
Best <Apocalypse> Barracks
Jaedong <Blitz Y> Hero
Stork <Neo Dark Origin> sSak
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Jaedong <Troy> Barracks

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Rush <Citadel> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +
Rush <Retro> Hero


SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Jaedong <Radeon> Hero
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Rush <Troy> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Best <Blitz Y> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Best <Retro> sSak

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Stork <Neo Dark Origin> sSak

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Rush <Radeon> sSak


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Rush < Light
Best < Barracks
Jaedong < Hero
Stork > sSak
Jaedong > Barracks
Rush > Hero
Rush > Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Jaedong < Hero
Rush < Hero
Best > Hero
Best < sSak
Stork < sSak

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
sSak turned on his beast mode to finish set 2 and went on to win super ace himself


I'm a huge fan of your daily proleague summaries, thanks for your contributions to the community!

Just one minor suggestion: In the FINAL RESULTS section, could we have a straightforward result, e.g., Rush < Ssak? If there's additional details to share, it can be appended after the result. With the current format, it's difficult to know who Ssak beat in the ace match without referring to the previous section.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3356 Posts
December 27 2023 11:12 GMT
#976
On December 27 2023 12:54 bochs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2023 00:35 TMNT wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztze3-rhqnE
MAJOR PROLEAGUE, DEC 26 2023

[Team A] Best Stork Rush Jaedong
vs [Team B] Light sSak Barracks Hero

SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Rush <Radeon> Light
Best <Apocalypse> Barracks
Jaedong <Blitz Y> Hero
Stork <Neo Dark Origin> sSak
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Jaedong <Troy> Barracks

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Rush <Citadel> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +
Rush <Retro> Hero


SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Jaedong <Radeon> Hero
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Rush <Troy> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Best <Blitz Y> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Best <Retro> sSak

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Stork <Neo Dark Origin> sSak

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Rush <Radeon> sSak


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Rush < Light
Best < Barracks
Jaedong < Hero
Stork > sSak
Jaedong > Barracks
Rush > Hero
Rush > Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Jaedong < Hero
Rush < Hero
Best > Hero
Best < sSak
Stork < sSak

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
sSak turned on his beast mode to finish set 2 and went on to win super ace himself


I'm a huge fan of your daily proleague summaries, thanks for your contributions to the community!

Just one minor suggestion: In the FINAL RESULTS section, could we have a straightforward result, e.g., Rush < Ssak? If there's additional details to share, it can be appended after the result. With the current format, it's difficult to know who Ssak beat in the ace match without referring to the previous section.

Easy peasy. Actually I tend to write something in that section (when i have time and if there's something interesting to say ofc) because I think it's a bit boring to just state who wins. But yeah, why not do both.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3356 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-12 16:26:19
December 27 2023 14:19 GMT
#977
Bit of fun for the holiday season with an offrace Proleague




OFFRACE PROLEAGUE, DEC 27 2023

[Team A] Snow Mind Barracks Queen Effort
vs [Team B] Rush Mong Hero Jaedong ggaemo

SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Snow <Polypoid> Mong
Barracks <Vermeer> Hero
Effort <Polypoid> ggaemo
Queen <Neo Sylphid> Jaedong
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Mind <Neo Sylphid> Rush

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Effort <Vermeer> Jaedong

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +
Barracks <Retro> Hero


SET 2 (PROLEAGUE)
Barracks <Neo Sylphid> Jaedong
Snow <Vermeer> Rush
Effort <Neo Sylphid> Mong
Mind <Polypoid> ggaemo
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Queen <Vermeer> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Barracks <Polypoid> Mong

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +
Mind <Retro> Hero


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Effort <Vermeer> Hero


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Snow < Mong
Barracks < Hero
Effort > ggaemo
Queen > Jaedong
Mind < Rush
Effort > Jaedong
Barracks > Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Barracks < Jaedong
Snow < Rush
Effort > Mong
Mind > ggaemo
Queen < Hero
Barracks > Mong
Mind < Hero

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
Effort > Hero
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3356 Posts
December 29 2023 09:52 GMT
#978

MAJOR PROLEAGUE, DEC 28 2023

[Team A] Snow Best Barracks Mind Queen
vs [Team B] Mini Shuttle Light sSak Effort

SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Mind <Blitz Y> Light
Best <Neo Dark Origin> Shuttle
Barracks <Troy> Effort
Snow <Citadel> sSak
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Queen <Radeon> Mini

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Barracks <Apocalypse> sSak

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Barracks <Retro> Light
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Barracks <Citadel> Mini

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Queen <Troy> Mini

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Snow <Neo Dark Origin> Mini

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Snow <Apocalypse> Shuttle

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Snow <Blitz Y> Effort

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +
Snow <Radeon> sSak

+ Show Spoiler [Game 8] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 9] +


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Mind > Light
Best < Shuttle
Barracks < Effort
Snow > sSak
Queen > Mini
Barracks > sSak

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Barracks > Light
Barracks < Mini
Queen < Mini
Snow > Mini
Snow > Shuttle
Snow > Effort
Snow > sSak

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3356 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-12 16:27:08
December 29 2023 13:00 GMT
#979


MAJOR PROLEAGUE, DEC 29 2023

[Team A] Mini Best Rush Mong
vs [Team B] Snow JYJ Queen Shine

SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Mini <Troy> Shine
Mong <Neo Dark Origin> JYJ
Rush <Retro> Queen
Best <Radeon> Snow
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Best <Apocalypse> Snow

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Mong <Blitz Y> Queen

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +
Mong <Citadel> Snow


SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Best <Citadel> Queen
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Mong <Troy> Queen

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Mong <Neo Dark Origin> Snow

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Mini <Apocalypse> Snow

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Rush <Retro> Snow

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Mini > Shine
Mong < JYJ
Rush > Queen
Best < Snow
Best > Snow
Mong < Queen
Mong < Snow

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Best < Queen
Mong > Queen
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Souden
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-29 17:28:29
December 29 2023 14:08 GMT
#980
Hey guys, there's a poll on the Korean forum for top major proleague game of the year. My top 3 picks were 4, 5, and 7. Those games were insane. Check it out if you want to participate.

https://www.fmkorea.com/6554185369
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