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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-08 14:52:45
October 08 2022 14:49 GMT
#81
On October 08 2022 21:49 TMNT wrote:
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On October 08 2022 20:54 royalroadweed wrote:
Gotta eat crow. Thought Royal only made it to the finals cause of fortunate bracket luck and Rush would stomp.

It's not far from the truth tho. He did get some luck with the bracket, getting Shine in Ro8, avoiding Protoss altogether, and cheese also played a big role in his run to the championship.

You can't legitimately say he's better than any of Light, Rush, Soma, Queen, Hero, Soulkey, Bisu, Snow,... but those players knocked each other out and Royal got the better of Soulkey and Rush. in what feels like two 50/50 series. Out of the recent ASL champions, he's probably the least convincing.


honestly Royal vs Soulkey was 50/50 but I think Royal won this series convincingly. When you look at the macro games, he won most of them decisively and for the one macro game that he lost, he was in serious trouble from the early vulture tank attack but still managed to get back into a decent position before losing.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey741 Posts
October 08 2022 16:14 GMT
#82
I was planning to come to Korea for the finals. I cancelled when it came to TVT. Caught sleep on first match. Damn finals should not be mirror match.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19262 Posts
October 08 2022 18:11 GMT
#83
On October 08 2022 20:03 prosatan wrote:
Bisudagger nailed the prediction !!!! Congrats !!!

Almost 100% predictions for ASL14! What a series. Royal played beautifully!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7805 Posts
October 09 2022 02:56 GMT
#84
Nice job Royal! GGs.
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1167 Posts
October 09 2022 08:24 GMT
#85
I'm impressed the thread got so many pages of replies for a TvT.

GGs
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
October 09 2022 10:53 GMT
#86
Surprised at all the scorn for TvT. This final delivered. Heck, most FvJ finals have been less satisfying in terms of back-and-forth between the players. Not much hype this time, but fun games to watch!

I liked how aggressive Royal’s openings were.
May the BeSt man win.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4315 Posts
October 09 2022 13:38 GMT
#87
Agreed, this final was among the better ones in SC history in terms of action, skill and creativity. Royal mixed in fast-paced aggressive strats and outplayed Rush in a bo7, which is extremely hard to do.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6179 Posts
October 09 2022 15:03 GMT
#88
Damn Sorry is soo damn good. Nice games, he made TvT interesting to watch.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
October 09 2022 15:41 GMT
#89
Such an action packed TvT, RoyaL's aggression delivered! Rush's TvT is his best MU and if it goes long enough he should win but RoyaL didn't let him breathe. Well deserved, I was having high hopes for him and he did it finally!
ASLCHAMP15Rush then!
sunbeams are never made like me...
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8552 Posts
October 09 2022 21:08 GMT
#90
Usually I like TvT a lot but these finals were mostly meh. So many mistakes...

On October 08 2022 23:49 Anc13nt wrote:
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On October 08 2022 21:49 TMNT wrote:
On October 08 2022 20:54 royalroadweed wrote:
Gotta eat crow. Thought Royal only made it to the finals cause of fortunate bracket luck and Rush would stomp.

It's not far from the truth tho. He did get some luck with the bracket, getting Shine in Ro8, avoiding Protoss altogether, and cheese also played a big role in his run to the championship.

You can't legitimately say he's better than any of Light, Rush, Soma, Queen, Hero, Soulkey, Bisu, Snow,... but those players knocked each other out and Royal got the better of Soulkey and Rush. in what feels like two 50/50 series. Out of the recent ASL champions, he's probably the least convincing.


honestly Royal vs Soulkey was 50/50 but I think Royal won this series convincingly. When you look at the macro games, he won most of them decisively and for the one macro game that he lost, he was in serious trouble from the early vulture tank attack but still managed to get back into a decent position before losing.


Idk, Rush played so defensively, no scouting at all. Royal "outmacroed" him because he just expanded and Rush never scouted and punished it - or expanded himself. With 5v3 bases, of course you win in the long run unless you are putting your rally point into the enemy tank line and never move it again.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51480 Posts
October 10 2022 07:14 GMT
#91
On October 09 2022 19:53 Djabanete wrote:
Surprised at all the scorn for TvT. This final delivered. Heck, most FvJ finals have been less satisfying in terms of back-and-forth between the players. Not much hype this time, but fun games to watch!

I liked how aggressive Royal’s openings were.


probably because it contained absolute no marquee players - if this was flash vs light or something no doubt they'd be more fanfare
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rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
October 10 2022 15:08 GMT
#92
It was a great series. Normally despise mirror-matches. but the skill, meta and intensity was high level, hard to not enjoy it.
Was cheering for Rush to get his ASL-win finally, but Royal's strats won me over in a couple of games. Really nice variety and fully deserved winner. Congrats!
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States352 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-10 19:55:43
October 10 2022 19:55 GMT
#93
GG ASL14ChampRoyal
Patasti
Profile Joined July 2020
Romania15 Posts
October 11 2022 07:44 GMT
#94
Royal had an impressive run, well done.
Muff2n
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom250 Posts
October 12 2022 02:45 GMT
#95
A great series indeed, a pity to hear about the viewer count.
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile162 Posts
October 12 2022 13:17 GMT
#96
RoyaL has me in awe, I love the way he plays, not afraid to mix it up and be more aggressive yet still solid on a regular game. Congrats to him on the Champion title. We finally have RoyaL Champion.

I don't mind mirror mu finals as long as it isn't PvP...
The ZvZ finals we had some seasons back was one of the best finals we've had and this TvT one was fine, not great, not bad.
And the one between Sea and Flash was pretty fun although lopsided.
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
ajmbek
Profile Joined November 2008
Italy460 Posts
October 12 2022 13:54 GMT
#97
It was a great series but the semis were better.

What do you think will Tastosis post the match before or after the end of the monh?
Sic iter ad astra
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8552 Posts
October 12 2022 19:43 GMT
#98
On October 12 2022 22:54 ajmbek wrote:
It was a great series but the semis were better.

What do you think will Tastosis post the match before or after the end of the monh?


What's taking them so long? I personally listen to Scan and Nyoken but a friend of mine waits for Tastosis' vods. By the time he gets back to me I have forgotten 80 % about the matches, lol.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5596 Posts
October 12 2022 21:07 GMT
#99
Amazing to see how happy Royal was after that. Really nice series too. And don't complain, guys, just be happy it wasn't zvz...
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8121 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-16 14:38:06
October 16 2022 14:36 GMT
#100
Really happy for Royal, I've been super impressed with his play and improvement over the last 1.5 years. He's been a total force in ASTL and KCM and I was just waiting for him to get over his BoX nerves and reach his potential in ASL. He definitely came to win this season with some awesome builds and series prep. Too bad he didn't get tested in TvP though.

Feel bad for Rush taking down Light just to lose to Royal haha, but I feel like he's destined to win an ASL eventually.

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how the fuck are Terran doing so bad in KCM this season when we had a TvT final lol


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