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Recommended Games+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +Poll: Recommend Rush vs Royal Game 1?Yes (14) 100% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Rush vs Royal Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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On October 08 2022 21:49 TMNT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2022 20:54 royalroadweed wrote:
Gotta eat crow. Thought Royal only made it to the finals cause of fortunate bracket luck and Rush would stomp. It's not far from the truth tho. He did get some luck with the bracket, getting Shine in Ro8, avoiding Protoss altogether, and cheese also played a big role in his run to the championship. You can't legitimately say he's better than any of Light, Rush, Soma, Queen, Hero, Soulkey, Bisu, Snow,... but those players knocked each other out and Royal got the better of Soulkey and Rush. in what feels like two 50/50 series. Out of the recent ASL champions, he's probably the least convincing.
honestly Royal vs Soulkey was 50/50 but I think Royal won this series convincingly. When you look at the macro games, he won most of them decisively and for the one macro game that he lost, he was in serious trouble from the early vulture tank attack but still managed to get back into a decent position before losing.
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I was planning to come to Korea for the finals. I cancelled when it came to TVT. Caught sleep on first match. Damn finals should not be mirror match.
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On October 08 2022 20:03 prosatan wrote:
Bisudagger nailed the prediction !!!! Congrats !!!
Almost 100% predictions for ASL14! What a series. Royal played beautifully!
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I'm impressed the thread got so many pages of replies for a TvT.
GGs
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Surprised at all the scorn for TvT. This final delivered. Heck, most FvJ finals have been less satisfying in terms of back-and-forth between the players. Not much hype this time, but fun games to watch!
I liked how aggressive Royal’s openings were.
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Agreed, this final was among the better ones in SC history in terms of action, skill and creativity. Royal mixed in fast-paced aggressive strats and outplayed Rush in a bo7, which is extremely hard to do.
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Damn Sorry is soo damn good. Nice games, he made TvT interesting to watch.
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Such an action packed TvT, RoyaL's aggression delivered! Rush's TvT is his best MU and if it goes long enough he should win but RoyaL didn't let him breathe. Well deserved, I was having high hopes for him and he did it finally!
ASLCHAMP15Rush then!
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Usually I like TvT a lot but these finals were mostly meh. So many mistakes...
On October 08 2022 23:49 Anc13nt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2022 21:49 TMNT wrote:On October 08 2022 20:54 royalroadweed wrote:
Gotta eat crow. Thought Royal only made it to the finals cause of fortunate bracket luck and Rush would stomp. It's not far from the truth tho. He did get some luck with the bracket, getting Shine in Ro8, avoiding Protoss altogether, and cheese also played a big role in his run to the championship. You can't legitimately say he's better than any of Light, Rush, Soma, Queen, Hero, Soulkey, Bisu, Snow,... but those players knocked each other out and Royal got the better of Soulkey and Rush. in what feels like two 50/50 series. Out of the recent ASL champions, he's probably the least convincing. honestly Royal vs Soulkey was 50/50 but I think Royal won this series convincingly. When you look at the macro games, he won most of them decisively and for the one macro game that he lost, he was in serious trouble from the early vulture tank attack but still managed to get back into a decent position before losing.
Idk, Rush played so defensively, no scouting at all. Royal "outmacroed" him because he just expanded and Rush never scouted and punished it - or expanded himself. With 5v3 bases, of course you win in the long run unless you are putting your rally point into the enemy tank line and never move it again.
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On October 09 2022 19:53 Djabanete wrote:
Surprised at all the scorn for TvT. This final delivered. Heck, most FvJ finals have been less satisfying in terms of back-and-forth between the players. Not much hype this time, but fun games to watch!
I liked how aggressive Royal’s openings were.
probably because it contained absolute no marquee players - if this was flash vs light or something no doubt they'd be more fanfare
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It was a great series. Normally despise mirror-matches. but the skill, meta and intensity was high level, hard to not enjoy it.
Was cheering for Rush to get his ASL-win finally, but Royal's strats won me over in a couple of games. Really nice variety and fully deserved winner. Congrats!
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Royal had an impressive run, well done.
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A great series indeed, a pity to hear about the viewer count.
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RoyaL has me in awe, I love the way he plays, not afraid to mix it up and be more aggressive yet still solid on a regular game. Congrats to him on the Champion title. We finally have RoyaL Champion.
I don't mind mirror mu finals as long as it isn't PvP...
The ZvZ finals we had some seasons back was one of the best finals we've had and this TvT one was fine, not great, not bad.
And the one between Sea and Flash was pretty fun although lopsided.
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It was a great series but the semis were better.
What do you think will Tastosis post the match before or after the end of the monh?
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On October 12 2022 22:54 ajmbek wrote:
It was a great series but the semis were better.
What do you think will Tastosis post the match before or after the end of the monh?
What's taking them so long? I personally listen to Scan and Nyoken but a friend of mine waits for Tastosis' vods. By the time he gets back to me I have forgotten 80 % about the matches, lol.
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Amazing to see how happy Royal was after that. Really nice series too. And don't complain, guys, just be happy it wasn't zvz...
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Really happy for Royal, I've been super impressed with his play and improvement over the last 1.5 years. He's been a total force in ASTL and KCM and I was just waiting for him to get over his BoX nerves and reach his potential in ASL. He definitely came to win this season with some awesome builds and series prep. Too bad he didn't get tested in TvP though.
Feel bad for Rush taking down Light just to lose to Royal haha, but I feel like he's destined to win an ASL eventually.
+ Show Spoiler [ KCM spoiler] + how the fuck are Terran doing so bad in KCM this season when we had a TvT final lol
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