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Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
September 28 2022 13:17 GMT
#61
On September 28 2022 21:54 FunkyDragoon wrote:
Afreeca execs must be disappointed, I wonder if they calculated how much money they will lose due to lower viewership for TvT finals


I think there's plenty of people who like TvT (like me).... I think it's not any worse than any other matchup and definitely the best mirror in the game.
its me
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 28 2022 13:25 GMT
#62
ASLCHAMPRush genuinely incoming.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13476 Posts
September 28 2022 13:39 GMT
#63
Bo7 TvT
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1262 Posts
September 28 2022 13:49 GMT
#64
Brutal. Bo7 TvT finals.😂
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-28 13:56:29
September 28 2022 13:55 GMT
#65
SK v Rush would've been an epic final. Oh well, TvT still better than ZvZ or PvP.

Didn't catch both semi matches. Both seem like a nail-biter. Which series would you recommend watching between the two?
gg no re thx
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
September 28 2022 14:09 GMT
#66
On September 28 2022 22:55 RKC wrote:
SK v Rush would've been an epic final. Oh well, TvT still better than ZvZ or PvP.

Didn't catch both semi matches. Both seem like a nail-biter. Which series would you recommend watching between the two?


definitely Royal vs SK
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia488 Posts
September 28 2022 14:29 GMT
#67
On September 28 2022 21:56 TMNT wrote:
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On September 28 2022 21:39 Kaolla wrote:
Man tesagi.... ridiculous... they can just do anything and still win.... No need for Flash... TvT finals gonna be fun, but damn... Rush didn't do much, just build some units, add some valkyries, thx for the win.

Right? People keep saying it's not Terran, it's Flash. But:
- Last 4 ASLs (without Flash), Terran took 4/8 spots in finals.
- Previous 4 ASLs (with Flash), Terran took 3/8 spots in finals, of which Flash only accounted for 1.

Also Terran about to win 7/14 of the ASLs.


What else is new? :D Not seeing the ingrained imbalance at the top level, that years of mapmaking have not been able to fix, is just being blind.
j.r.r.
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia488 Posts
September 28 2022 14:31 GMT
#68
Look just the game from yesterday with a hidden factory. If that first vulture survived, it's probably a win right there. And even with that failed, and the factory destroyed, T still wins. The risk-benefit ratio for T is so incredibly good.
j.r.r.
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-28 14:41:06
September 28 2022 14:39 GMT
#69
On September 28 2022 23:31 Rainalcar wrote:
Look just the game from yesterday with a hidden factory. If that first vulture survived, it's probably a win right there. And even with that failed, and the factory destroyed, T still wins. The risk-benefit ratio for T is so incredibly good.


Soulkey messed up so many times that game though. He didn't take down the exp, when one of his guardians (he only had two, so one of the two) got irridiated he just moved it away from everything not even attacking anything.... He really fucked up that game so bad. Can't really blame tesagi for that.
its me
Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
September 28 2022 14:58 GMT
#70
where can i watch the games
https://cinesnipe.com
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia488 Posts
September 28 2022 15:05 GMT
#71
On September 28 2022 23:39 Kaolla wrote:
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On September 28 2022 23:31 Rainalcar wrote:
Look just the game from yesterday with a hidden factory. If that first vulture survived, it's probably a win right there. And even with that failed, and the factory destroyed, T still wins. The risk-benefit ratio for T is so incredibly good.


Soulkey messed up so many times that game though. He didn't take down the exp, when one of his guardians (he only had two, so one of the two) got irridiated he just moved it away from everything not even attacking anything.... He really fucked up that game so bad. Can't really blame tesagi for that.


I don't think it compares. One Guardian not attacking should not be enough of a mistake for T to win. Flying a muta flock over marines - sure. For the expansion, he would have lost plenty muta to turrets, and he would be in danger of a moveout to his natural.

The essence of it is, the first vulture was actually mismicroed. If it weren't, T probably wins. And even with such big mistake and a loss of tech, T came back without a massive blunder by Z.
j.r.r.
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia488 Posts
September 28 2022 15:05 GMT
#72
On September 29 2022 00:05 Rainalcar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2022 23:39 Kaolla wrote:
On September 28 2022 23:31 Rainalcar wrote:
Look just the game from yesterday with a hidden factory. If that first vulture survived, it's probably a win right there. And even with that failed, and the factory destroyed, T still wins. The risk-benefit ratio for T is so incredibly good.


Soulkey messed up so many times that game though. He didn't take down the exp, when one of his guardians (he only had two, so one of the two) got irridiated he just moved it away from everything not even attacking anything.... He really fucked up that game so bad. Can't really blame tesagi for that.


I don't think it compares. One Guardian not attacking should not be enough of a mistake for T to win. Flying a muta flock over marines - sure. For the expansion, he would have lost plenty muta to turrets, and he would be in danger of a moveout to his natural.

The essence of it is, the first vulture was actually mismicroed. If it weren't, T probably wins. And even with such big mistake and a loss of tech, T came back, and he didn't even need a massive blunder by Z.

j.r.r.
Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States659 Posts
September 28 2022 15:06 GMT
#73
Fuck yeah, TvT BO7 finals. I will never understand people who dislike TvT. It's such a fun matchup to play and watch, there's so much strategic depth.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3296 Posts
September 28 2022 15:38 GMT
#74
Yeah TvT is the best mirror from a strategic point of view. It's not so fun to watch from an entertainment pov though, that goes to PvP.

ZvZ is the worst from both points of view. Sometimes you get a thrilling situation where each player ends up with less than 10 units trying to end each other. But other than that, nothing much.
PachiBW
Profile Joined October 2021
18 Posts
September 28 2022 15:52 GMT
#75
On September 29 2022 00:05 Rainalcar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2022 23:39 Kaolla wrote:
On September 28 2022 23:31 Rainalcar wrote:
Look just the game from yesterday with a hidden factory. If that first vulture survived, it's probably a win right there. And even with that failed, and the factory destroyed, T still wins. The risk-benefit ratio for T is so incredibly good.


Soulkey messed up so many times that game though. He didn't take down the exp, when one of his guardians (he only had two, so one of the two) got irridiated he just moved it away from everything not even attacking anything.... He really fucked up that game so bad. Can't really blame tesagi for that.


I don't think it compares. One Guardian not attacking should not be enough of a mistake for T to win. Flying a muta flock over marines - sure. For the expansion, he would have lost plenty muta to turrets, and he would be in danger of a moveout to his natural.

The essence of it is, the first vulture was actually mismicroed. If it weren't, T probably wins. And even with such big mistake and a loss of tech, T came back without a massive blunder by Z.


Well, if I remember correctly, isn't that the map where Soulkey had a third base, but the third base is isolated so his military units cannot actually be built from it (except mutas)? That was a large part of the problem, he was essentially on 2 hatch production against that push.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4276 Posts
September 28 2022 16:25 GMT
#76
Grand Final starts 2 hours earlier than other play-off matches, right?
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4276 Posts
September 28 2022 16:27 GMT
#77
On September 28 2022 22:17 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2022 21:54 FunkyDragoon wrote:
Afreeca execs must be disappointed, I wonder if they calculated how much money they will lose due to lower viewership for TvT finals


I think there's plenty of people who like TvT (like me).... I think it's not any worse than any other matchup and definitely the best mirror in the game.

Fully agree. I feel the same about this.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19383 Posts
September 28 2022 16:51 GMT
#78
This is going to be a really really tough finals for Royal. Rush has been a top level player for a while now. I enjoy both players very much, but I'm rooting for the underdog in this one.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19383 Posts
September 28 2022 16:54 GMT
#79
This rarely happens, but a tied vote!
[image loading]
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
September 28 2022 17:14 GMT
#80
On September 28 2022 23:58 Broodwar4lyf wrote:
where can i watch the games

Korean: https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/92690956
English: https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/92690860 (Nyoken & Scan)
FBH #1!
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