First "real" live games in quite some time, and we're treated with the worst group of death we've seen in quite some time.
Will Flash spoil Bisu's bid at a 3rd straight title, to the tune of last season's OSL? Will Bisu show him who runs the show over on the MSL side? Will Nada be able to finally beat Oov? Will Oov keep the streak going? How will the new maps hold up? In particular, we are guarenteed a PvT matchup on Blue Storm, which is an exciting prospect.
Hate to see two of these players depart so early in the proceedings, but I guess that's how things go. ~__~
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These games are gonna be so tight, I hope iloveoov win and let SKTT1 be known again, nada too, he's always on a rollercoaster, doing good, then sucks, etc.
lol i've been watchin for awhile and my buddy told me about TL so i starting posting here since very little of my bnet friends care to watch progaming and now that MSL is finally back on.....i can't watch it
it was working fine for the e-sports seoul festival, i'm very confused as to why it doesn't work anymore
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I just want to post here and say that for matches I am hyped up for, I really enjoy the moment while both players are just mining, and the commentators fill the time with idle talk.
You watch each player slowly build their opening, and somehow the excitement only gets better.
bisu sends in a scouting probe, which gets killed by 2 tanks and rines.
bisu moves in with 4 goons, sniping off 1/2 of the tanks. flash retreats up the ramp and the other one lives, OBS IN FLAHS's main, sees the mnm build slightly before flash moves out and can surpirse bisu.
Bisu moves his goons into position and dances away.
Nat nexus cancelled for bisu, instead adding a 3rd gate along with robo support bay.
reaver out for bisu, as he warps his nat nexus again.
shuttle heading towards the main now, no turret, 1 tank sieges at the cc, mnm at the ramp.
bis chooses to press teh ramp, forces mnm to depart from the ramp, allowing the goons entry into the main, reaver dropped, no shots go off, but do pull the mnm into position where the goons can hammer them.
majority of the mnm have died, but only 3 goons left.
oov mines nada's bridge 1 round, then picks up vults into his dropship, ferries into the south part of oov's main, mines up the ramp area, now killing scvs
OHHHH RAX LANDS ON THE RAMP AND NADA CANT BRING IN HIS TANKS?? OR AT LEAST IT CONFUSED THE AI ENOUGH TO DELAY!!
Nada loses 2 tanks to mines behind the main mineral line.
gateway starts for bisu at I think 9 supply, and probe harassing the rax making scv. I'm not sure if oov wanted that rax in that position (left of depot) or above the depot but relented due to bisu's harass.
Bisu mining gas at his main, core after 1 zeal.
zeal out after oov scouts the proxygate, 1 rine repels the zeal for now.
On September 13 2007 19:30 Ketama)Djin( wrote: oov is better TvsT than Nada.
basta
NaDa beat IriS, Casy and many other great T's. I wouldnt say oov is clearly better in TvT than NaDa. Its just a curse.. Nada seems not to be able to win vs oov..
Now Bisu crushes oov, and NaDa fights his way back.. gogo BiSu & NaDa
oov moving out with a handful of tanks and vults, bisu tries to get his goons from his main into position, but immidiately lost two to mines outside his main ramp.
oov building cc at his nat, his units reach the highground on the left.
haha looks like MSL crew has fucked wit hthe minimap colors, making flash red on the minimap (more like a wine red)
Flash proxying 2 raxes at the corner of the wide upramp on the left side. (I'm really going to have to figureout a way to describe this map. basically he proxxies in the center left of the map).
Nada's scouting scv checks the area directly to the left of the nat, and it looks like he has failed to spot the proxies of flash.
3 rines and 1 scv incoming, as nada's scv reaches flash's main.
nada lifts ihis fact out of bunker range, but flash kills it off, nada with nothing to fight with, his msl is now over on the very first day of its festivities.
On September 08 2007 02:41 Jayson X wrote: Fuck i hate such groups. Two of my favorite terrans (nada & oov) and you just know one of them will fuck up...
On September 13 2007 20:03 MaGic~PhiL wrote: oh well.. oov is just good and bisu.. gogo bisu.. but saaad NaDa used to be so good.. :[
used to be? come on...he won masters not too long ago. He is still good. he was just unfortunate today. he didn't even have a chance to show his skills today.
it was so obvious he was going to be cheesed , still he goes for a late scout , can't believe pros like him don't stop this kind of cheese with training 10 hours a day
I really used to love nada , but I'm sick of him being cheesed, cuz everybody knows he goes fast expand 100% of the time
On September 13 2007 20:07 ii.blitzkrieg wrote: If PoP reads this.. just to let you know on TLPD under the players record/games it shows these games as "GOMTV MSL S2" when it's supposed to be S3.
bisu's zeal attacking teh depot, but 1 rine eventually tells it to back off. depot in red health but should be repaired in time unless flash is braindead.
rines chase the scouting probe and kill it off, flash mining from 2 bases now, starts factory.
bisu went nexus after 1 gate core, and is mining from his front nat now.
flash pressing the front again now, as bisu is low on units there. however, flash doesnt have that many units there either, and the arbiters have free reign pegging away at tranks.
flash lost his back nat, but He shoudl be mining from his 4th.
Flash getting his 5th base over at 11.
Bisu comes into flash's 4th to shit it down, flash goes into bisu's 4th though.
On September 13 2007 20:34 philsa wrote: Flash is just a kid. Let's give him a break. I only wished he had made Goliath a little sooner.
I wish Bisu built a time machine, went back to Daum OSL ro8 and raped the fuck out of Flash's stupid cheese builds.
Can't you let it go? Bisu entered that ro8 against Flash overconfident and played it carelessly.
Especially on Monty, one game down on a map clearly designed for unorthodox play, he went for a proxy without good scouting, but got proxied himself and lost. It looks quite fair to me.
On September 13 2007 20:34 philsa wrote: Flash is just a kid. Let's give him a break. I only wished he had made Goliath a little sooner.
I wish Bisu built a time machine, went back to Daum OSL ro8 and raped the fuck out of Flash's stupid cheese builds.
Can't you let it go? Bisu entered that ro8 against Flash overconfident and played it carelessly.
Especially on Monty, one game down on a map clearly designed for unorthodox play, he went for a proxy without good scouting, but got proxied himself and lost. It looks quite fair to me.
Not surprised with Bisu getting through Bisu is showing he can be as consistent as Savior It´s hard to see someone stopping Bisu from getting his 3rd title
if flash would've cheesed someone else nobody would give a crap. so he cheesed Nada, shit happens. emo reactions to that are lamer than the cheese. nada doesn't blame flash for his loss why do you? cheesers are a must in every aspect of the game. they keep the balance between cocksureness and genuine skill.
Nada is as genuine as they come but today he was off.
Nada always go for fast CC, one day he'll double expand every game and you'll still whine it's unfair he looses within 10 mins. Cheese is the only thing preventing SC to evolve into over predictable maco fests, and often leads to more micro oriented & entertaining play styles.
It's like those Z who cry when they're zealot rushed cause they tried a greedy build, or cause their micro is absolutly horrible.
Bisu vs. Flash the first game was just Bisu absolutely raping Flash. I don't even remember seeing Bisu lose a goon until he was in Flash's base. Bisu's revenge. Glad Flash got knocked out, hopefully he doesn't come back.
Just watched the oov games. Really impressive stuff. First game vs nada he just knew exactly what to do. Nada totaly lost control against vultures only, a dropship and wraith. Really impressive how he timed everything. Once again nada showed his one dimensional fast cc moment. That's sometimes as predictable as his no turret policy wich just breaks his neck. I don't know why he's falling into this mechanics&multitasking-style-only-phase so often.
oov vs bisu was just nice. Not only did he build his factory outside on the upper side of the map, he just totaly kept his coolness and was no chickenshit at all. Like "you put pressure on me, than i put pressure on you nomatter what you do". Bisu knew that his reaver was born to die there and oov's comsat was timed perfectly. The typical oov one punch knock-out there.
oov really impressed me. Pulling osme pages out of his old teammate's book (meaning BOXER). Really solid, strategic play. Bisu raped Flash the first game. Lovely play by flash to knock out NaDa. I think people are finally going ot realize that when you play Flash ... scout constantly ! I still am not too impressed by bisu's PvT though. I think that if he had to play NaDa w/ the intention of using that ballsy. Arbiter Recall no obs strategy that he would've probably lost. But still extremely happy he's through though. I expect to see great things from oov this season though.
On September 14 2007 10:45 Fuu wrote: Wussy whiners about cheese are really annoying.
Nada always go for fast CC, one day he'll double expand every game and you'll still whine it's unfair he looses within 10 mins. Cheese is the only thing preventing SC to evolve into over predictable maco fests, and often leads to more micro oriented & entertaining play styles.
It's like those Z who cry when they're zealot rushed cause they tried a greedy build, or cause their micro is absolutly horrible.
yeah but flash cheeses wayy too often.... his scv rushes, marine cheese builds.... all the time, i remember in proleague he cheese scv rushed almost every game... it gets annoying, especially whenever he tries to play straight up he loses, flash is just a Ever)TT(P version of terran, cheese usually doesnt show much skill, and it is not the only thing preventing sc from becoming a macro whore fest, there are plenty of things preventing that.... and that is why sc is so popular today
On September 14 2007 10:45 Fuu wrote: Wussy whiners about cheese are really annoying.
Nada always go for fast CC, one day he'll double expand every game and you'll still whine it's unfair he looses within 10 mins. Cheese is the only thing preventing SC to evolve into over predictable maco fests, and often leads to more micro oriented & entertaining play styles.
It's like those Z who cry when they're zealot rushed cause they tried a greedy build, or cause their micro is absolutly horrible.
On September 15 2007 00:16 MesAiur wrote: I still am not too impressed by bisu's PvT though. I think that if he had to play NaDa w/ the intention of using that ballsy. Arbiter Recall no obs strategy that he would've probably lost. But still extremely happy he's through though.
hmmm...Bisu has beaten Nada with no obs and arbiter before though....
On September 15 2007 00:16 MesAiur wrote: I still am not too impressed by bisu's PvT though. I think that if he had to play NaDa w/ the intention of using that ballsy. Arbiter Recall no obs strategy that he would've probably lost. But still extremely happy he's through though.
hmmm...Bisu has beaten Nada with no obs and arbiter before though....
Rly, hmmm. Bisu really has cojones. But it seems wierd to me why he likes to use zealots as observers xD.
On September 15 2007 03:25 rushz0rz wrote: wooooow, game 5 was really good. Bisu got arbs so fast, with no obs either. Crikey. Flash didn't even know what the hell to do after the first recall.
Flash really sucks mid/lategame tvp imo. And yes, bisu played beautifully in that game
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