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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
October 24 2021 06:38 GMT
#2
hype. imo the best zvpers are hero, soma and zero. this will be a true test for mini. will zero adapt from the previous series and move on for a chance at his third ASL title? or will we get mini vs. either rush or hero, either of which would be exciting because hero's zvp is looking really strong right now.

mini hwaiting! pls show dazzling zealot micro and good mindgames. and don't die to hydra busts.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-24 07:31:48
October 24 2021 07:30 GMT
#3
Can't wait. I expect Zero will adapt from before and destroy Mini. Probably 3-1. Will be very excited if it's not the case. I think we won't see mutalisks/scourge made early. It will be a very macro focused hydra into lurker from Zero.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey791 Posts
October 24 2021 09:10 GMT
#4
Go Mini!
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3694 Posts
October 24 2021 09:24 GMT
#5
Looking forward to an awesome series. However, I'm not looking forward to ZvZ final :-(
Ruff
Profile Joined August 2006
Kazakhstan179 Posts
October 24 2021 09:40 GMT
#6
Mini is the pride of Protoss. His style is spectacular and aggressive. I root for Mini!
"Keep on dreaming, boy, cause someday you will shine" (Ogogo).
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 09:58 GMT
#7
OK TL! LET'S DO THIS!
LB: mini
Heart: both!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 10:12 GMT
#8
lol mini saying queen isn't good at being aggressive. He clearly is just saying this because he doesn't want to deal with early aggression.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-24 10:19:34
October 24 2021 10:18 GMT
#9
Absolutely right about the spire. I expect Zero wont use any spire based builds. Not saying he won't use a spire early but he wont make more than a couple pairs of scourge.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
October 24 2021 10:20 GMT
#10
Expecting both long and short games today, could get very exciting
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 10:26 GMT
#11
2 gates! but zero is prepared
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 10:30 GMT
#12
insane pressure from these 2 gates...
zero is behind now
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 10:32 GMT
#13
Such brilliant zealot pressure. Not the best microed ever, but maybe the best game plan I've ever seen with a 2 gate.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 10:33 GMT
#14
The reaver seals the deal! GG

1-0 for mini !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
October 24 2021 10:33 GMT
#15
Amazing game from Mini. GG
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3694 Posts
October 24 2021 10:35 GMT
#16
2gate in main lol, like its 1999.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey791 Posts
October 24 2021 10:35 GMT
#17
What a shocking build from Mini.Queen played really bad.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-24 10:38:45
October 24 2021 10:36 GMT
#18
Notice how closely Mini was watching his probe at the natural until he knew it was too late for a hatch timing. He was completely prepared to block the hatch to force what queen was already doing, making a hatch at the third. Everything Mini prepared worked perfectly. From the timing of sneaking the first zealot out just past the overlord to the exact timing of his 2nd and 3rd zealots blocking his ramp. Incredible. Great game from Mini.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51065 Posts
October 24 2021 10:37 GMT
#19
I mean that was pretty much the perfect game for mini
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 10:38 GMT
#20
On October 24 2021 19:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I mean that was pretty much the perfect game for mini

Absolutely.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey791 Posts
October 24 2021 10:41 GMT
#21
As the far exp hurts Queen a lot.Hi did not expect this.If he get nat and build sunken he can defend this attack.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 10:46 GMT
#22
On October 24 2021 19:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I mean that was pretty much the perfect game for mini

Just a little mistake when he let those zerglings to sneak in even if he had 3 zelots defending the ramp

but his plan was perfect !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 10:49 GMT
#23
I remember that in ASL11 zero helped mini prepare for the finals against larva (saw in one of jinjin's nice translated videos!)

very awesome moment! I wonder if mini beats zero and hero beats rush if zero would help mini again
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-24 10:54:12
October 24 2021 10:52 GMT
#24
Really surprised Zero went for a muta build. Also surprised mini isnt reacting with a 2nd stargate like in season 11 ;;
Now that I think about it. Unlike last season he didnt have any scouting info on the spire timing or second gas?
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 10:53 GMT
#25
supplies are getting closer and closer...maybe not so good for mini
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 10:58 GMT
#26
mini showing his emotions after losing those hts

gg! 1-1
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1259 Posts
October 24 2021 11:00 GMT
#27
Is there a documented win for Protoss vs Zerg on Largo?
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-24 11:02:05
October 24 2021 11:00 GMT
#28
Mini's army was just in terrible position...just below the high ground. If he had the army up further where the hydras had to come up from the low ground to fight him he might have held. If he was ready and in position he would've had a smaller area to storm and would've seen them coming earlier. Much easier to react if you're on high ground and can see them coming of course
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey791 Posts
October 24 2021 11:01 GMT
#29
Sacrificing too many zea to destroy Queens exp gave the match.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 11:02 GMT
#30
5 pool !!!!!!!
fast game incoming!!!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51065 Posts
October 24 2021 11:02 GMT
#31
hahahahaha 5pool vs cross pos
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-24 11:18:18
October 24 2021 11:03 GMT
#32
On October 24 2021 20:01 HOLYBATS wrote:
Sacrificing too many zea to destroy Queens exp gave the match.

Disagree. The move was good. However, maybe a better follow up would be to continue massing units and delay his own third nexus. A high gateway fully saturated protoss can fight very well against 3 base zerg. Especially with the third being a low mineral count base.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 11:05 GMT
#33
WTF MINI! what was that!? you just need to hold that cannon!
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 11:08 GMT
#34
Mini just needs to cannon up to protect muta and he will be in a great position. Don't throw the lots and use them to stop a third.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 11:08 GMT
#35
what the...
mini what are you doing with your zealots there ???
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 11:09 GMT
#36
CANNON UP MINI! PLEASE
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 11:09 GMT
#37
double stargates
if mini holds this muta attack he'll win
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 11:09 GMT
#38
On October 24 2021 20:08 prosatan wrote:
what the...
mini what are you doing with your zealots there ???

fully agree...its a complete waste...he needs to do something with them asap.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51065 Posts
October 24 2021 11:11 GMT
#39
when all else fails, load up the SH.

double den time.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 11:11 GMT
#40
On October 24 2021 20:09 Sirris wrote:
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On October 24 2021 20:08 prosatan wrote:
what the...
mini what are you doing with your zealots there ???

fully agree...its a complete waste...he needs to do something with them asap.

yes!

he did manage to snipe a few drones! that hero zealot had 4 kills
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 11:11 GMT
#41
Wow. A very fun game. Mini needs to stop corsair and switch to mass goon.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 11:13 GMT
#42
mini holds and he has double the supply of zero
one more attack and this is it
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 11:14 GMT
#43
haaaa!!! attacking his hydras to snipe the dt ! nice move
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 11:14 GMT
#44
GG ! 2-1 for the protoss player!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 11:15 GMT
#45
LMAO ive watched this game for 20+ years...never seen lurkers kill their own hydras and actually kill a dt
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 11:16 GMT
#46
On October 24 2021 20:11 prosatan wrote:
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On October 24 2021 20:09 Sirris wrote:
On October 24 2021 20:08 prosatan wrote:
what the...
mini what are you doing with your zealots there ???

fully agree...its a complete waste...he needs to do something with them asap.

yes!

he did manage to snipe a few drones! that hero zealot had 4 kills

Yea, he used them right when I said that. Glad he didnt do the terrible thing of just leaving them in place to die to mutas(or hydras in other games) when they come out.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey791 Posts
October 24 2021 11:18 GMT
#47
Very good game.Killing a dt attacking his hydra with lurker reminds me Garimto killed lurker with archons splash.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 11:21 GMT
#48
On October 24 2021 20:18 HOLYBATS wrote:
Very good game.Killing a dt attacking his hydra with lurker reminds me Garimto killed lurker with archons splash.

A classic moment. But killing a lurker is sooo much easier. They don't move Sadly in this game as it turns out, the killing of the dt didn't matter at all. It was still a nice moment.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 11:26 GMT
#49
I fully agree it will be 12 hatch
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-24 11:31:37
October 24 2021 11:29 GMT
#50
I think Zero likes to take the 3rd mineral base as a quick boost because youll need macro hatches anyways. Can use that for extra minerals to take the gas bases and still maintain nice army production.

Yes this absolutely seems to be a 9/7/3 and think its the best game play for him. He should've been doing it all series.

Well clearly I'm wrong I think mini will hold this hydra though....just barely...
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-24 11:35:24
October 24 2021 11:34 GMT
#51
Mini saw the 4th base made with his sair movement right?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51065 Posts
October 24 2021 11:41 GMT
#52
mini looking great.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
JohnnyBlaze420
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia820 Posts
October 24 2021 11:41 GMT
#53
man mini is on fire so far
.lets get weird
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey791 Posts
October 24 2021 11:42 GMT
#54
What a combat.Mini played really well.I will re watch this game.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4167 Posts
October 24 2021 11:43 GMT
#55
I was impressed by his anti hydra burst build
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 11:44 GMT
#56
I agree with you guys. This is a game to be studied for protoss players.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 11:47 GMT
#57
11 nexus and 11 forge vs over pool and he will pull it off...damn Mini is so good lol
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-24 11:49:56
October 24 2021 11:48 GMT
#58
I think mini might turtle with sair and templar and take the high ground base at 4 o clockish quick. Well clearly I'm wrong 2nd stargate.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 11:54 GMT
#59
YES SCAN. I said it at the beginning, zerg needs to stop making early mutalisk vs protoss. It leaves too much weakness
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
October 24 2021 11:54 GMT
#60
GG!!

Same score ! 4-1 !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
October 24 2021 11:54 GMT
#61
I'm such a fooooooool
hatred outlives the hateful
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3694 Posts
October 24 2021 11:55 GMT
#62
Snow's prediction was correct!
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey791 Posts
October 24 2021 11:56 GMT
#63
Yes same score with 4-1. Similar game with sair dt combo.
Well done Mini.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4167 Posts
October 24 2021 12:02 GMT
#64
Whoever wins next semi, we will get a good to great final and we also avoided a ZvZ. Things look good
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
October 24 2021 12:03 GMT
#65
Non mirror match up for the final! Everyone rejoice
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
October 24 2021 13:59 GMT
#66
Absolutely beautifully played by Mini !

always very satisfying to see zerg getting trashed like this by protoss warriors

GGs!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
October 24 2021 13:59 GMT
#67
Hopefully this time he'll deliver in the Final, too..
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
October 24 2021 14:13 GMT
#68
And to think that among the games Mini won is a one base two gate, a nexus first, and one game in which he thought things had gone wrong only to then rip Queen's measly 1-0 hydra upgrade to shreds with his 2-1. So much fun watching him consistently crush PvZ with a variety of strats
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Zeronova
Profile Joined September 2020
54 Posts
October 24 2021 14:19 GMT
#69
Omfg. Mini just has Queens number and is living rent free in his mind. That third game, Queen went full tilt with double hydra den.

I don’t think mini vs Larva, Hero or even Soma or Sacsri looks like this. Queen always seems to favor early lair + spires as opposed to Hydra flood. And that was the only game he won even though mini knew what he was doing. Played out very similar to the last 4-1
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-24 14:27:51
October 24 2021 14:27 GMT
#70
good day for protoss/mini fans but from a purist stance its disappointing to see zero lacking in the preparation aspect, perhaps perturbed from typically having mini as his practice partner. mini v hero will be a much closer affair at least. or vs rush will be a stern test of his PvT calibre
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
October 24 2021 15:08 GMT
#71
vods?
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1968 Posts
October 24 2021 15:09 GMT
#72
On October 25 2021 00:08 Zoler wrote:
vods?

https://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/79272227
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
October 24 2021 15:17 GMT
#73
ggs mini did good
ace hwaiting!!
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
October 24 2021 16:14 GMT
#74
On October 25 2021 00:09 Just_a_Moth wrote:
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On October 25 2021 00:08 Zoler wrote:
vods?

https://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/79272227


thanks!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
October 24 2021 23:07 GMT
#75
It’d be really interesting to hear from Zero about why he struggles so much against Mini in ZvP. Seems Mini is able to hit these tricky early game zeal timings that consistently throws Zero off his game.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-24 23:48:48
October 24 2021 23:46 GMT
#76
i'll be rooting for mini in the finals for sure. but imagine if rush won it all. asl12champrush would become his lucky id. and he would've beaten soma, hero (who looks unstoppable in zvp and zvt) and mini (best current protoss) to win. that would be really cool. and then again, i don't have anything against hero. but i want a protoss or terran to win ASL this season. last time protoss won ASL was rain, right? ...
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
October 25 2021 00:43 GMT
#77
It'd be great to see Mini win (and a Protoss too in an ASL where the maps aren't rigged in their favour). But head tells me either Rush or Hero will take the title. Hero especially looks so good lately.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51065 Posts
October 25 2021 02:43 GMT
#78
On October 25 2021 09:43 RowdierBob wrote:
It'd be great to see Mini win (and a Protoss too in an ASL where the maps aren't rigged in their favour). But head tells me either Rush or Hero will take the title. Hero especially looks so good lately.


hey I still believe in the legend of the fall.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Jubinell
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
333 Posts
October 25 2021 04:10 GMT
#79
Great series guys. First game was just GOOD PREPARATION from Mini. He thought out every possible responses by the Zerg and scouted /pressured correctly to mitigate them.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey791 Posts
October 25 2021 06:40 GMT
#80
I root for rush for testing Minis pvt. If Mini wins the final again Rush he will be undisputed best protoss.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
October 25 2021 07:56 GMT
#81
Mini is the best protoss in the world right now. The way he dispatched ZerO it didn't even look close. He really deserves an ASL win.
sunbeams are never made like me...
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-25 09:48:15
October 25 2021 09:48 GMT
#82
History has an interesting way of repeating itself. Sublime play from Mini.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19364 Posts
October 25 2021 14:04 GMT
#83
The similarities to Bisu are amazing.

SSL - Bisu went undefeated versus 5-2 versus Zerg defeating Larva and then Zero in semis only to lose to hero 0-3.
VANT SL - Bisu went undefeated versus Larva, Kawnro, and Bale and then lost to Effort 1-3 in the finals.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
331 Posts
October 25 2021 20:13 GMT
#84
On October 25 2021 23:04 BisuDagger wrote:
The similarities to Bisu are amazing.

SSL - Bisu went undefeated versus 5-2 versus Zerg defeating Larva and then Zero in semis only to lose to hero 0-3.
VANT SL - Bisu went undefeated versus Larva, Kawnro, and Bale and then lost to Effort 1-3 in the finals.


Not to mention their relatively disappointing Pvt
tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
Canada475 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-26 09:37:55
October 26 2021 09:37 GMT
#85
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ajmbek
Profile Joined November 2008
Italy460 Posts
October 26 2021 10:12 GMT
#86
really interesting games, i strongly raccomand watching them
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 30 2021 17:20 GMT
#87
A bit crazy to think that Mini repeated the same feat with the exact same score again. He seems to have vZ figured out to some degree, and it's fantastic seeing him pull out all these different strategies. He made ZerO seem helpless in most games. Well done Mini. Rough for ZerO, but it didn't seem like he varied his playstyle much from the last ASL so that was on him.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11086 Posts
October 30 2021 19:46 GMT
#88
On October 31 2021 02:20 BigFan wrote:
A bit crazy to think that Mini repeated the same feat with the exact same score again. He seems to have vZ figured out to some degree, and it's fantastic seeing him pull out all these different strategies. He made ZerO seem helpless in most games. Well done Mini. Rough for ZerO, but it didn't seem like he varied his playstyle much from the last ASL so that was on him.


I mean you're probably brutalizing literally every other protoss. Mini's vZ is just that ridiculous and out of step with everyone else.

Mini needs to win the finals to get the credit he deserves.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 31 2021 02:04 GMT
#89
On October 31 2021 04:46 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2021 02:20 BigFan wrote:
A bit crazy to think that Mini repeated the same feat with the exact same score again. He seems to have vZ figured out to some degree, and it's fantastic seeing him pull out all these different strategies. He made ZerO seem helpless in most games. Well done Mini. Rough for ZerO, but it didn't seem like he varied his playstyle much from the last ASL so that was on him.


I mean you're probably brutalizing literally every other protoss. Mini's vZ is just that ridiculous and out of step with everyone else.

Mini needs to win the finals to get the credit he deserves.

Indeed. He's made the finals of ASL twice (ASL7 and ASL11), and got a 4th finish in ASL5. This doesn't include Ro8 appearances etc... either. I would love to see him play other Zergs. We know he can beat ZerO and he came close to beating Larva last ASL. What about Soma or Soulkey? I think that would add more "legitimacy" to his vZ. It's a bit sad though that the finals had to be+ Show Spoiler +
between Mini and Rush. I would love for both of them to win ASL so I'm going to both love and hate the ending of this one.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
331 Posts
October 31 2021 03:47 GMT
#90
On October 31 2021 11:04 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2021 04:46 Sabu113 wrote:
On October 31 2021 02:20 BigFan wrote:
A bit crazy to think that Mini repeated the same feat with the exact same score again. He seems to have vZ figured out to some degree, and it's fantastic seeing him pull out all these different strategies. He made ZerO seem helpless in most games. Well done Mini. Rough for ZerO, but it didn't seem like he varied his playstyle much from the last ASL so that was on him.


I mean you're probably brutalizing literally every other protoss. Mini's vZ is just that ridiculous and out of step with everyone else.

Mini needs to win the finals to get the credit he deserves.

Indeed. He's made the finals of ASL twice (ASL7 and ASL11), and got a 4th finish in ASL5. This doesn't include Ro8 appearances etc... either. I would love to see him play other Zergs. We know he can beat ZerO and he came close to beating Larva last ASL. What about Soma or Soulkey? I think that would add more "legitimacy" to his vZ. It's a bit sad though that the finals had to be+ Show Spoiler +
between Mini and Rush. I would love for both of them to win ASL so I'm going to both love and hate the ending of this one.


I'm torn up about this one too. I think I'm rooting for Mini but after Rush's ro4 I think Rush might be the current best player on earth.
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1548 Posts
October 31 2021 08:03 GMT
#91
On October 31 2021 11:04 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2021 04:46 Sabu113 wrote:
On October 31 2021 02:20 BigFan wrote:
A bit crazy to think that Mini repeated the same feat with the exact same score again. He seems to have vZ figured out to some degree, and it's fantastic seeing him pull out all these different strategies. He made ZerO seem helpless in most games. Well done Mini. Rough for ZerO, but it didn't seem like he varied his playstyle much from the last ASL so that was on him.


I mean you're probably brutalizing literally every other protoss. Mini's vZ is just that ridiculous and out of step with everyone else.

Mini needs to win the finals to get the credit he deserves.

Indeed. He's made the finals of ASL twice (ASL7 and ASL11), and got a 4th finish in ASL5. This doesn't include Ro8 appearances etc... either. I would love to see him play other Zergs. We know he can beat ZerO and he came close to beating Larva last ASL. What about Soma or Soulkey? I think that would add more "legitimacy" to his vZ. It's a bit sad though that the finals had to be+ Show Spoiler +
between Mini and Rush. I would love for both of them to win ASL so I'm going to both love and hate the ending of this one.

Mini and Soulkey played a best of 9 in Ultimate Battle recently which you can see here. It's not quite the same as offline though.
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