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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1109 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-19 13:18:44
October 19 2021 13:18 GMT
#41
I feel like anyone can win from now on, really hard to predict. If i had to guess,
zero 29%
mini 22%
rush 28%
hero 21%

Whats yours ?
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
October 19 2021 13:45 GMT
#42
^
ZerO > Mini
Rush < herO

ZerO > herO
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Zeronova
Profile Joined September 2020
54 Posts
October 19 2021 14:46 GMT
#43
^sadly it will probably play out that way.

I’m just glad Hero saved us from TvT boredom
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
October 19 2021 14:48 GMT
#44
Hero has been my favorite zerg in the post-kespa era. I'd love to see him finally get an ASL gold. He's definitely become incredibly talented at ZvT.

Light's TvZ has taken a nose dive in the past couple years. He would have won the whole tournament if it was TvP. It's amazing how big of a change his skillset has gone through.
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ToT)MidiaN(
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
England2183 Posts
October 19 2021 15:33 GMT
#45
Light's TvZ is still crushing online to be fair, he just hasn't shown up often enough in offline tournaments. He looked good vs Queen in RO16, but was atrocious today. You could see him having a chat to himself after the 3rd game, but then played even worse in the 4th game. I'd be interested to know his true feelings about his performance.

My prediction is Mini > Zero in a very close series, Rush > hero by murder and Mini > Rush in a close series in the final. Anyone can win it at this point though, almost all matchups on paper are relatively close. Zero and hero are both "overperformers" offline compared to online though, so it could very easily be a ZvZ final as well
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HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey766 Posts
October 19 2021 16:15 GMT
#46
I also expect Mini vs Rush final.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
October 19 2021 16:40 GMT
#47
Hoping for Mini vs herO finals.
Rush will propably play way better than Light, but hero can take out any player.
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States694 Posts
October 19 2021 20:06 GMT
#48
+ for Mini vs herO. Battle of the silvers.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
October 19 2021 20:11 GMT
#49
From having best TvZ and worst TvP to have mediocre TvZ and best TvP. WTF was that Light? herO's muta control was top notch, haven't seen a while such a good muta and scourge movements. If it turns out ZvZ finals he clearly has a shot of winning the whole thing.
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Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States365 Posts
October 19 2021 20:38 GMT
#50
Did Light sub in a body double?? He was playing so well in the previous rounds.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
October 19 2021 20:45 GMT
#51
On October 19 2021 20:34 bovienchien wrote:
All of Zerg units are stronger all of Terran

Drone > SCV
Ling > Marine
Hydra > Vulture
Lurker > Tank
Muta > Wraith
...

I don't get surprised when I have 20% win rate in my TvZ. I have C rank all seasons.

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If lurkers > tanks maybe you should work on your basic skills LEL
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angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
327 Posts
October 19 2021 21:58 GMT
#52
On October 20 2021 05:45 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
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On October 19 2021 20:34 bovienchien wrote:
All of Zerg units are stronger all of Terran

Drone > SCV
Ling > Marine
Hydra > Vulture
Lurker > Tank
Muta > Wraith
...

I don't get surprised when I have 20% win rate in my TvZ. I have C rank all seasons.

User was warned for this post.



If lurkers > tanks maybe you should work on your basic skills LEL


lmao just a-move 10 tanks into 10 burrowed lurkers and watch what happens. idk what this guy is on about.
avanhokie
Profile Joined May 2017
50 Posts
October 20 2021 00:26 GMT
#53
On October 19 2021 21:54 TMNT wrote:
Every season in the nomination round, Light was the player getting picked last. That says how all the other pros think about him. The Ultimate Battle is like the Light vs The Rest show, his sponbbang stats always among the strongest. Yet we have these kinds of performance from him: today games, ASL9 finals, last season R16. Only Best can surpass him in terms of underperforming.

Meanwhile Queen is like the opposite of them. Guy drops out of top 10 sponbbang regularly, losing cheaply against lower tier players on his stream, yet when it comes to offline setting he doesn't dissappoint.


Many times when Mini has made Ro4 or finals he was like 13 in sponbang, but he shows up big in offline. Same with Queen, Rush finally put it together in offline where he usually has choked (other than two wildcards where he looked monster). Hero is similar, very professional and plays to his quality. Light other than KSL / ASL 9 run has never met his online performance in offline events. Still a Ro8 but he must be very disappointed in going out with a very winnable bracket.

GG hero
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1109 Posts
October 20 2021 02:54 GMT
#54
Rush against herO is super interesting to me. herO has a very unique way to play the zerg race, its hard to describe how he manages to spam sd at the top level. On the other hand, i never saw a terran (besides Flash of course) who can make all his barracks flashing n o n - s t o p . Rush is almost never supply block also. Its really impressive, and i tend to agree that herO will have a hard time dealing with this. Rush isnt known for his harassment though, and this is why i think herO should make it to the finals in a very close series; sd spammer always dangerous when goes unpunished.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1109 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-20 02:59:29
October 20 2021 02:59 GMT
#55
On October 20 2021 09:26 avanhokie wrote:
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On October 19 2021 21:54 TMNT wrote:
Every season in the nomination round, Light was the player getting picked last. That says how all the other pros think about him. The Ultimate Battle is like the Light vs The Rest show, his sponbbang stats always among the strongest. Yet we have these kinds of performance from him: today games, ASL9 finals, last season R16. Only Best can surpass him in terms of underperforming.

Meanwhile Queen is like the opposite of them. Guy drops out of top 10 sponbbang regularly, losing cheaply against lower tier players on his stream, yet when it comes to offline setting he doesn't dissappoint.


Many times when Mini has made Ro4 or finals he was like 13 in sponbang, but he shows up big in offline. Same with Queen, Rush finally put it together in offline where he usually has choked (other than two wildcards where he looked monster). Hero is similar, very professional and plays to his quality. Light other than KSL / ASL 9 run has never met his online performance in offline events. Still a Ro8 but he must be very disappointed in going out with a very winnable bracket.

GG hero


First RO8+ for Light was in ASL 8, he would try stupid cheese for no reasons (I think it was in ASL 4 where he tried to build a barrack inside 'was it larva ?' main base) prior to this ASL...
He shined against Flash in ASL 8 where he has nothing to lose, no pressure at all.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey766 Posts
October 20 2021 07:20 GMT
#56
Online/Offline stage is so different. Even a major tournament like KCM Mini/Queen does not play the same level as ASL.
It is a bit preparation and mind games.
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1546 Posts
October 20 2021 08:55 GMT
#57
Disappointing series, great moments from Hero for sure, but I thought Light was in way better form than this, as Scan said at the end, it was like watching a mid-tier Terran. No idea what's going to happen next, rooting for Mini so hard but it really could go anywhere. I feel Rush probably will win, he's looking very impressive lately.
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-20 11:09:16
October 20 2021 11:01 GMT
#58
Light played sloppier than I expected off that series. He kept losing valks for basically no reason. I'd like to see Rush make it to the finals, it feels like been awhile since a Terran other than Flash has been in ASL finals (i know Light faced Zero in the finals a few seasons back).
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13307 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-20 12:06:48
October 20 2021 12:06 GMT
#59
On October 20 2021 17:55 moktira wrote:
Disappointing series, great moments from Hero for sure, but I thought Light was in way better form than this, as Scan said at the end, it was like watching a mid-tier Terran. No idea what's going to happen next, rooting for Mini so hard but it really could go anywhere. I feel Rush probably will win, he's looking very impressive lately.

Agree. Light played very bizarrely compared to what he’s capable of. Some players just feel the pressure more in offline tournies I guess.

Hero played well but Light was just awful and never gave himself much of a chance. That he made that bizarre poke out in game three to expose himself like that about summed up his performance.
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Zeronova
Profile Joined September 2020
54 Posts
October 20 2021 13:00 GMT
#60
I think Queen vs mini is pretty even. Hope mini wins. I think Rush beats hero and pretty badly but Hero looked good against light so can’t count him out. It’s unlikely but I would love to see Mini vs Hero finals
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