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[ASL12] Ro8 Day 2
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BLinD-RawR
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whylessness
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HOLYBATS
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ggsimida
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M3t4PhYzX
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FIGHTING | ||
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prosatan
Romania8495 Posts
I got only one and a half hour to see this match ! Hope we get some good games  Royal is in good form ! | ||
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LaStScan
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prosatan
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Just_a_Moth
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bovienchien
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prosatan
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On October 12 2021 19:13 bovienchien wrote: Why both players didn't pick GOOD NIGHT that is good for them. Maybe they haven't prepared a good strategy on GOOD NIGHT and they choose to avoid it... | ||
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bovienchien
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bovienchien
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Mini and Royal even picked up maps that favor Protoss so much. | ||
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HOLYBATS
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Zeronova
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prosatan
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BLinD-RawR
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prosatan
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come on Mini !!! | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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BLinD-RawR
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prosatan
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On October 12 2021 20:00 BLinD-RawR wrote: this is easily the longest game we've seen on this map And it started with a double chesse | ||
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prosatan
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whylessness
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prosatan
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royal has a solid position but mini is ahead in units | ||
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prosatan
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good trade right there ! | ||
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prosatan
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First speed then sight I upgrade when playing vs terran | ||
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HOLYBATS
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Just_a_Moth
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BLinD-RawR
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whylessness
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Just_a_Moth
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Shakuras beatdown | ||
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ggsimida
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prosatan
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Zeronova
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bovienchien
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I said Lemon is the best map and it should be in ladder but no one agrees with me. | ||
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prosatan
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HOLYBATS
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4227 Posts
GGs | ||
BisuDagger
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Lazyer
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Miragee
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On October 12 2021 23:21 BisuDagger wrote: That game 2 was amazing. Sorry played really great against his disadvantages in games 1 and 2. He has come a long way and I hope he keeps up the practice. Yeah, game 2 was great. Good play by Mini in general, he was well prepared. | ||
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moktira
Ireland1545 Posts
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Piste
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On October 12 2021 19:13 bovienchien wrote: Why both players didn't pick GOOD NIGHT that is good for them. They want maps that favours them | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey745 Posts
Interesting that no pvt on this map yet on ASL 12.In general it seems p fav map.As Mini picked Lemon,Ascension it may be the case. As Ascension is 3 player map he may choose because of proxy gates and gas steal. | ||
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NotoriousSCV
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On October 12 2021 20:38 prosatan wrote: I think mini has 55 % chances against zero! just a bit favorite agains him! Did you watch their recent BO9? He smashed him! But hopefully he can still do it in a tournament. I certainly feel better with his PvZ than PvT, his vT is so weird | ||
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prosatan
Romania8495 Posts
On October 13 2021 19:37 NotoriousSCV wrote: Did you watch their recent BO9? He smashed him! But hopefully he can still do it in a tournament. I certainly feel better with his PvZ than PvT, his vT is so weird Please NotoriousSCV can you put a link ? I want to see the match !!   | ||
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prosatan
Romania8495 Posts
Saw the match but forgot it sorry ! | ||
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angry_maia
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Piste
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Just_a_Moth
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On October 14 2021 02:07 angry_maia wrote: Mini is truly Bisu's heir. Innovative incredible PvZ, solid PvP, and unreliable PvT. I know Mini just smashed Royal, but I really don't think he can beat either Light or Rush. I don't think his PvT is as bad as people say. They showed his stats from all the ASLs and in the past his PvT was abysmal, but recently he has a winning record, which also when he has become a better player. Still, I don't know if he can beat Light. I think Rush would lose to Mini though. Rush sometimes has questionable decision making (like sometimes he just hesitates and does nothing), and I feel that against Mini, especially in the earlier game, this will get him killed. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19299 Posts
On October 14 2021 03:19 Just_a_Moth wrote: I don't think his PvT is as bad as people say. They showed his stats from all the ASLs and in the past his PvT was abysmal, but recently he has a winning record, which also when he has become a better player. Still, I don't know if he can beat Light. I think Rush would lose to Mini though. Rush sometimes has questionable decision making (like sometimes he just hesitates and does nothing), and I feel that against Mini, especially in the earlier game, this will get him killed. Bisu had one of the highest elos in PvT, yet he was unreliable in the match up. I think that's where the comparison holds with Mini. | ||
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Miragee
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On October 14 2021 03:19 Just_a_Moth wrote: I don't think his PvT is as bad as people say. They showed his stats from all the ASLs and in the past his PvT was abysmal, but recently he has a winning record, which also when he has become a better player. Still, I don't know if he can beat Light. I think Rush would lose to Mini though. Rush sometimes has questionable decision making (like sometimes he just hesitates and does nothing), and I feel that against Mini, especially in the earlier game, this will get him killed. Tbf on the flipside, just doing _something_ will definitely get you killed vs Mini, lol. | ||
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TMNT
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People say Bisu can't play PvT for instance, but at almost any point, Bisu had only negative record against Flash and Light which is of no shame. Same for Mini recently, but the list extends to Rush. He had a healthy positive record against Royal in 2021 before the match yesterday, so it's not so much of a surprise. | ||
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Zeronova
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On October 14 2021 02:38 Piste wrote: Beatiful protoss games by Mini. Too bad Sorry got 3-0'd, but Zero vs Mini will be exciting match. Royal was an unfortunate but necessary and acceptable sacrifice | ||
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whylessness
United States376 Posts
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QOGQOG
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bovienchien
Vietnam1152 Posts
On October 14 2021 10:02 QOGQOG wrote: Glad to see Mini put out a strong PvT. While I'd still favor Light or Rush in a potential finals, I'm a lot more confident than I was before that Mini can put up a decent series against them. Both these guys will be beat by 2 Zerg. Mini needs to win ZerO to avoid ZvZ in the final. But I think Mini can't do it one time again. He is just a cheese player. He is different from other cheeses at he knows when and where he should do it. | ||
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Sirris
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On October 14 2021 11:27 bovienchien wrote: Both these guys will be beat by 2 Zerg. Mini needs to win ZerO to avoid ZvZ in the final. But I think Mini can't do it one time again. He is just a cheese player. He is different from other cheeses at he knows when and where he should do it. Favoring a zerg against Light? A very bold prediction. I would say Light is favored against any Zerg. | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey745 Posts
Regarding Minis pvt seems improving.He is working on weaknesses on Terran plays.His storm drops in combats are really efficient. Reaver micro is so good.He also prefer lots of zealots than dragons with hts. His play is different from other P like Snow,Best. Snow can not produce a strategy against Lights ultra defensive strategy. I am sure if it was mini he would storm drop with corsair+shuttle and we may see carrier switch. Everyone expected Queen dominating Mini in ASL 11.Even when Queen gets first match the fear of zvz finals appeared.Yes Mini does cheese but also Flash did.He won by bunker rush,proxy racks etc.The thing is Queen seems can not produce counter against Minis play.I watched several proleague matches between Mini vs Queen recently.Mini has a winning record against Queen. I am also waiting Hero beating Light.Light game is so predictable.Recall Hero beat Light in ASL 11. My prediction is Mini vs Soma finals. | ||
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rararara
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I was shocked seeing him make so many bad decisions and micro blunders. Got outsmarted bo-wise every single game, too. A couple of ASLs ago he was predicted to be an up and coming superstar, but he has a long way to go mentally. I guess watching cherrypicked games on his YT-channel wonˋt give you the right picture (myself included!). Props to Mini, amazing how he keeps pulling rabbits out of the hat at such a high level, as the only Protoss and in a 20-year old game. Incredible player. Looking forward to the semis. Zero got crushed badly by Mini, too last time - let‘s see if he can get some revenge. | ||
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outscar
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CeJo1
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On October 14 2021 03:19 Just_a_Moth wrote: I don't think his PvT is as bad as people say. They showed his stats from all the ASLs and in the past his PvT was abysmal, but recently he has a winning record, which also when he has become a better player. Still, I don't know if he can beat Light. I think Rush would lose to Mini though. Rush sometimes has questionable decision making (like sometimes he just hesitates and does nothing), and I feel that against Mini, especially in the earlier game, this will get him killed. I totally agree with you | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12023 Posts
On October 14 2021 14:16 Sirris wrote: Favoring a zerg against Light? A very bold prediction. I would say Light is favored against any Zerg. If this was 10 years ago I would say this would be true, but the zergs these days are killing it. | ||
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