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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
September 14 2021 10:01 GMT
#2
yes yes I'm late, will update the op in a few mins
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
September 14 2021 10:09 GMT
#3
Hurray for Group F!

LB: Light / Sorry

If I remember correctly Light has under 50% win rate in ASL!

Let's see if I'm right!

Can you believe this ???
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
September 14 2021 10:14 GMT
#4
Group selection for Ro16 is tomorrow.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
September 14 2021 10:16 GMT
#5
Light : 34 W / 39 L 46.6% Unbelivable!

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
September 14 2021 10:20 GMT
#6
Light vs Ruin on Eclipse

Let's go !!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
September 14 2021 10:21 GMT
#7
wtf is this game alrdy
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
September 14 2021 10:22 GMT
#8
OMG!! Nexus first and forge !!

Ruin plays like a pvz haha
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
September 14 2021 10:23 GMT
#9
Rooting for Ruin today, he won against Sorry and Shine in CMSL4 Ro24, so he might have a shot here
Kong John
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark1020 Posts
September 14 2021 10:24 GMT
#10
Can't believe it, Tastosis were just talking about this exact situation in the last group. Protoss assimilators have a larger sight range than most buildings, so many people don't realize if they are building within its sightrange or not.
This is real life, where nerds must battle!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
September 14 2021 10:24 GMT
#11
PVT REVOLUTIONIST ! RUIN !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-14 10:25:56
September 14 2021 10:25 GMT
#12
if light blindly makes goliaths expecting reavers I'mma flip.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
September 14 2021 10:28 GMT
#13
Superb army control from Ruin !

Light is in trouble I think
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
September 14 2021 10:29 GMT
#14
lmao light
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
September 14 2021 10:32 GMT
#15
Speed shuttles and fleet beacon for Ruin!

Light has a timing attack now, right before carriers
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
September 14 2021 10:32 GMT
#16
lol ruin transitioning to carriers gave light a good opportunity to push
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
September 14 2021 10:34 GMT
#17
well ruin just can't keep up with the macro
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
September 14 2021 10:44 GMT
#18
GG!!

Light wins but what an effort from Ruin !

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
September 14 2021 10:45 GMT
#19
carriers were a questionable choice.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
September 14 2021 10:52 GMT
#20
Shine "Bag of builds" with a 4 pool !

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
September 14 2021 10:56 GMT
#21
2nd 4 pool win this season alrdy?
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
September 14 2021 10:56 GMT
#22
best build.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
September 14 2021 10:58 GMT
#23
I always wondered why some players who are knowing they are better than thier opponents aren't playing safe.

I remember gogo , a terran player, who said that Bisu always is playing safe when he faces weaker players..

Play safe and go to middle / late game where you are having more chances cuz of your macro and decision making
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
September 14 2021 10:58 GMT
#24
wished we would get a great TvT...
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
September 14 2021 11:05 GMT
#25
On September 14 2021 19:58 prosatan wrote:
Play safe and go to middle / late game where you are having more chances cuz of your macro and decision making


stage nerves can impair decision making
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
September 14 2021 11:09 GMT
#26
On September 14 2021 20:05 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2021 19:58 prosatan wrote:
Play safe and go to middle / late game where you are having more chances cuz of your macro and decision making


stage nerves can impair decision making

yes, guess you're right!

Light vs Shine - standard builds so far

Shine is scouting in the right direction
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
September 14 2021 11:13 GMT
#27
On September 14 2021 20:09 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2021 20:05 ggsimida wrote:
On September 14 2021 19:58 prosatan wrote:
Play safe and go to middle / late game where you are having more chances cuz of your macro and decision making


stage nerves can impair decision making


Light vs Shine - standard builds so far

WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
September 14 2021 11:13 GMT
#28
Light with the 7 million IQ play
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
September 14 2021 11:14 GMT
#29
On September 14 2021 20:13 Ziggy wrote:
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On September 14 2021 20:09 prosatan wrote:
On September 14 2021 20:05 ggsimida wrote:
On September 14 2021 19:58 prosatan wrote:
Play safe and go to middle / late game where you are having more chances cuz of your macro and decision making


stage nerves can impair decision making


Light vs Shine - standard builds so far


My bad! I forgot is Shine
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5669 Posts
September 14 2021 11:15 GMT
#30
Did someone Shine practiced with leak this build? Why would Light ever go there?
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
September 14 2021 11:15 GMT
#31
On September 14 2021 20:15 maybenexttime wrote:
Did someone Shine practiced with leak this build? Why would Light ever go there?


because its shine
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-14 11:18:27
September 14 2021 11:17 GMT
#32
from the way it played it felt like light got a cue from somewhere and got suspicious (even tho theres no live audience...did he heard the casters?)
staatbauhaus
Profile Joined February 2020
99 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-14 11:20:05
September 14 2021 11:17 GMT
#33
On September 14 2021 20:15 maybenexttime wrote:
Did someone Shine practiced with leak this build? Why would Light ever go there?


He just said in his post game interview he got fked by zerg proxy builds from people like Action so he's accustomed to search for proxies.


Also you see that he used both scans, saw no tech buildings, that's when his scv turned to check the corner. If no hatch was there im assuming he would check 11 oclock corner.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
September 14 2021 11:22 GMT
#34
could have put the hydra den in the main anyway and also somehow squeeze out a pair of ling or 2 to hunt down any scouting scvs
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
September 14 2021 11:42 GMT
#35
Don't know that ruin guy, is he having some nerves issues? His decision making crumbles when the pressure becomes heavier. He earned my respect with that game 1 against light though.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
September 14 2021 11:46 GMT
#36
first ASL appearance so probably.

also hes not snow/mini tier anyway
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
September 14 2021 12:11 GMT
#37
gg ... too bad

Shine is playing nice mind games...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1545 Posts
September 14 2021 12:12 GMT
#38
I can't remember the last time I saw Guardians in a pro-game, never more than once or twice anyway. Still, great defence from Sorry.
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
September 14 2021 12:16 GMT
#39
On September 14 2021 21:12 moktira wrote:
I can't remember the last time I saw Guardians in a pro-game, never more than once or twice anyway. Still, great defence from Sorry.

I was about to say it happened very recently but I absolutely can't remember the players or the tournament, so same as you.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
September 14 2021 12:16 GMT
#40
Ro24 8T8P8Z

after Ro24 -4T-4P-4Z

Ro16 5T5P6Z

There is not Tesagi, Pusagi and Zesagi. It's best game, best balance, best fair. It's the StarCraft 1.

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oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
September 14 2021 12:36 GMT
#41
On September 14 2021 21:12 moktira wrote:
I can't remember the last time I saw Guardians in a pro-game, never more than once or twice anyway. Still, great defence from Sorry.



ASL3 Shine vs Mong quarterfinals Game 2 on Camelot comes to my mind. The series where Shine gained his "bag of build"-title, he also proxy-nydused Mong on Andromeda in Game 4 iirc
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1092 Posts
September 14 2021 13:33 GMT
#42
On September 14 2021 21:36 oEkY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2021 21:12 moktira wrote:
I can't remember the last time I saw Guardians in a pro-game, never more than once or twice anyway. Still, great defence from Sorry.



ASL3 Shine vs Mong quarterfinals Game 2 on Camelot comes to my mind. The series where Shine gained his "bag of build"-title, he also proxy-nydused Mong on Andromeda in Game 4 iirc


Exactly what i thought when nyoken said vs ssak on circuit breakers
CeJo1
Profile Joined August 2021
32 Posts
September 14 2021 13:49 GMT
#43
On September 14 2021 21:16 bovienchien wrote:
Ro24 8T8P8Z

after Ro24 -4T-4P-4Z

Ro16 5T5P6Z

There is not Tesagi, Pusagi and Zesagi. It's best game, best balance, best fair. It's the StarCraft 1.

[image loading]

And Flashagi
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States365 Posts
September 14 2021 22:39 GMT
#44
Wish we could have seen more of Shine, his builds are just so damn funny. Also, with the Valk + Devourer/Guardian appearance, we're a few steps closer to seeing every unit this ASL! (Dark Archons were seen earlier, I think we're missing BCs, Ghosts, Scouts, Queens/Broodlings, and Infested Terrans)
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-15 01:11:35
September 15 2021 01:05 GMT
#45
I'm far from being a ZvT expert, but why did Shine morph Guardians so far away and then leave them over open ground? I thought abusing terrain was the whole idea in going for them.
On September 15 2021 07:39 Lazyer wrote:
Wish we could have seen more of Shine, his builds are just so damn funny. Also, with the Valk + Devourer/Guardian appearance, we're a few steps closer to seeing every unit this ASL! (Dark Archons were seen earlier, I think we're missing BCs, Ghosts, Scouts, Queens/Broodlings, and Infested Terrans)

BCs should be pretty easy, and if we get a longer mech TvZ Queen/Broodling should happen. The others I'm not so sure of. I know every unit has been built in ASL, but it would be interesting to know which seasons which ones showed up.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 15 2021 01:20 GMT
#46
Shine's builds and execution of them is something else, he can catch off guard anybody but just got unlucky when Light scouted him and when Sorry made double starport and pumped to many valkyries.
I liked Ruin's performance, he's solid buto needs to step up his game, looking forward to new generation of toss.
sunbeams are never made like me...
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
September 15 2021 10:11 GMT
#47
No Group Selection Thread this time? Its ongoing right now...
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States365 Posts
September 15 2021 17:57 GMT
#48
On September 15 2021 10:05 QOGQOG wrote:
BCs should be pretty easy, and if we get a longer mech TvZ Queen/Broodling should happen. The others I'm not so sure of. I know every unit has been built in ASL, but it would be interesting to know which seasons which ones showed up.


Just curious if you know, but when were Ghosts and Infested Terrans were made? Was it Nada who made nukes?

I remember Shuttle making a Scout in ASL11
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-16 04:51:08
September 16 2021 04:47 GMT
#49
On September 16 2021 02:57 Lazyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2021 10:05 QOGQOG wrote:
BCs should be pretty easy, and if we get a longer mech TvZ Queen/Broodling should happen. The others I'm not so sure of. I know every unit has been built in ASL, but it would be interesting to know which seasons which ones showed up.


Just curious if you know, but when were Ghosts and Infested Terrans were made? Was it Nada who made nukes?

I remember Shuttle making a Scout in ASL11

Yeah, Nada made a Ghost in ASL7 and I seem to recall lockdown used vs Carriers once? There have been quite a few Scouts relatively speaking (lots on Sparkle). Not remembering on Infested Terrans, but I'm pretty sure they happened. It's been a while.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-19 23:11:06
September 19 2021 23:07 GMT
#50
Fun group overall. Light being such a boss winning that first game from a bad position against Ruin. Shine beating Sorry with a 4 pool, much like 815 did to sSak haha. Is the 4 pool making a comeback? That winners' match between Light and Shine was well played by Light, but I can't say that it's impressive. Light scanned the main and exp, saw no tech and he had an SCV which scouted most of the map at that point. It only makes sense that there's a third hatchery somewhere if there's no tech buildings up with the lair finished already at that time period. Still, well played to dig deeper. It's just too bad that Shine didn't find a better strat, but it is what it is.

Sorry vs Ruin was just great, because Sorry played it extremely well compared to Light in the first game. Then quite the interesting strat in the last game for Shine. I think if he had slightly better muta micro and did things a bit differently, he could've won it. Not sure of the viability, but imagine 2 lurkers under those guardians. Those marines would've had a hard time engaging that army in any capacity. The two better players won today even if having a new face in Ruin and good ol' Shine would've made for some interesting Ro16 games.
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