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[ASL11] Semifinals B
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BLinD-RawR
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LpTraxamillion
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M3t4PhYzX
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Sonic_md
Moldova275 Posts
Me too think, Grand Final - mini vs larva will be more interesting (mo goog games), than mini vs hero let`s see | ||
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outscar
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On May 25 2021 17:40 Sonic_md wrote: totally agree with M3t4PhYzX Me too think, Grand Final - mini vs larva will be more interesting (mo goog games), than mini vs hero let`s see Spoiled it for me  Go Larva, you deserve a final appearance. Keep your promise that you said that you'll watch the throne. | ||
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
But first, let's see some gosu zvz! | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
Love his personality, and his unorthodox turtle Zerg playstyle will be a good dynamic clash with mini's own off-meta style. Don't follow hero much. But I expect he'll just play rather vanilla and we'll see lots of hydra busts... | ||
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Burned Toast
Canada2040 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
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Miragee
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Miragee
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outscar
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M3t4PhYzX
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outscar
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Magic Powers
Austria4436 Posts
 Fairly balanced match in terms of luck thus far, only a small bo advantage for him in game 1. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13181 Posts
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Magic Powers
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RowdierBob
Australia13181 Posts
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Magic Powers
Austria4436 Posts
Anyway, gg Larva! | ||
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outscar
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
On May 25 2021 20:03 outscar wrote: So because it's ZvZ korean casters filling the time advertising energy drink so hard xD And then chuggin it, I mean it's not going to be long night xD lol but are they ever not doing this let's be real EDIT: Also yeah I don't know how Hero lost game four, I only tuned in to see that one but he seemed way up and yet also determined to bash his head into spores | ||
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Ikirouta
Finland728 Posts
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Sonic_md
Moldova275 Posts
first PvZ final for all 11 ASL seasons | ||
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Sorusaba
290 Posts
Let's have a good finals | ||
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Miragee
8563 Posts
On May 25 2021 20:28 Ikirouta wrote: This has been one of the worst starleagues judging by game / series quality. Ro16 was great though. | ||
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oxKnu
1207 Posts
Mini - Larva will probably be the best final since Effort vs Flash in ASL6. Their online matches are always crazy. (you can youtube them). | ||
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Highgamer
1434 Posts
Larva on the other hand seemed to do everything right, at the right time, in the right amount... Happy for him. | ||
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Ikirouta
Finland728 Posts
On May 25 2021 20:30 Miragee wrote: Ok, Larva just put on a clinic on how to play zvz. Totally outclassed hero in every single aspect. Ro16 was great though. Ro24 was bad, Ro16 was aight, Ro8 had 3 bad series, Ro4 2x bad series. I can't think of another starleague that has been this bad, first that comes to mind was the 2006 Shinhan Bank OSL. | ||
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Marl
United States692 Posts
On May 25 2021 20:28 Ikirouta wrote: This has been one of the worst starleagues judging by game / series quality. haha usually when the ro8 is one sided the semis are good but yeah bad matchups overall this ASL. I forget if we even saw any late game play this ASL. If Afreeca is making ro4 bo7, there's no reason not to make the group stages fully bo3 to improve the placements quality in the future. | ||
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RKC
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mini v Larva should be a fun finals! | ||
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oxKnu
1207 Posts
On May 25 2021 20:32 Ikirouta wrote: Ro24 was bad, Ro16 was aight, Ro8 had 3 bad series, Ro4 2x bad series. I can't think of another starleague that has been this bad, first that comes to mind was the 2006 Shinhan Bank OSL. Pretty ridiculous statement considering the previous season of ASL had no redeemable series in all of its knockout rounds. Just a bunch of ZvZs, some of the most tragic PvZ series of all time and Flash clowning as random is far worse than any of this. The bonus this season is we legitimately have a 50/50 finals that will most probably bring in some really hard fought games. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4212 Posts
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prosatan
Romania8336 Posts
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prosatan
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Slipgoon
Sweden390 Posts
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Brainojack
Canada195 Posts
Mini stated some concern that he'd shown his builds vs Queen and larva hasn't had to play any protoss in a longer series (i'm not up with what's happening in sponbangs). I wonder who they'll each train with and what they'll each bring to finals. | ||
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TMNT
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LpTraxamillion
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Larva's mechanics weren't great vs Rush thought Hero might have the edge. | ||
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Optimate
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kaspa84
Brazil169 Posts
On May 25 2021 23:57 TMNT wrote: Larva's so going to win this ASL. The only Protoss player he can lose to in a BO7 is Bisu. He holds a 60% record against Mini in 2021. The map pool is in his favor. Mini has revealed his tricks against Zero already, plus his style won't work well against the turtling Zerg style of Larva. But everyone was saying that Zero had already beaten Mini, and would probably/certainly be champion as well. I will repeat what I said about the semifinals, larva may be the favourite, but Mini is not dead. | ||
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JoinTheRain
Bulgaria409 Posts
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hiro protagonist
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4019 Posts
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oxKnu
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On May 26 2021 02:04 kaspa84 wrote: But everyone was saying that Zero had already beaten Mini, and would probably/certainly be champion as well. I will repeat what I said about the semifinals, larva may be the favourite, but Mini is not dead. I think I've watched well over 25+ games between these two over the years. Mainly because their styles clash really well, and that should be the primary reason people should be excited about the finals. It truly is a 50/50 series on paper, however I think on these maps Larva can comfortably play his style and that will allow him to reign in any nerves he might have for the first few games. I'd be shocked if this series has less than 6 games tbh. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1709 Posts
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Sokokrey
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Lazyer
United States362 Posts
On May 26 2021 00:57 Optimate wrote: Anyone else think it’s funny that in the finals we have two players that are nicknamed footstar player and pervert protoss lol? lmfao after Scan pointed out Mini's thumbnail from the other Ro4, I've seen more than I ever would have though from starcraft players. Larva rocked it in that one youtube video though (thread) Larva truly put up a clinic, caught so hero out of position so many times. Setting up to be a great finals! Mini's PvZ was looking good too. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13181 Posts
edit: seems the last time we had a ZvP final in a major tournament was the VANT36.5 National Starleague back in 2016 :O | ||
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staRt.toDaY
Germany38 Posts
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inflection
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outscar
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On May 26 2021 19:28 RowdierBob wrote: First ASL to have a ZvP final! edit: seems the last time we had a ZvP final in a major tournament was the VANT36.5 National Starleague back in 2016 :O Which was prequel to ASL. FlaSh arrived and crashed everything (although Last started dominating at that time too). | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On May 27 2021 09:05 inflection wrote: Anyone that's played a bunch of ZvZ games vs someone in a row knows just how streaky it can be and feels Hero's pain lol. Happy for Larva and looking forward to this final more than any since Effort vs Flash season 6. Let's hope the series is as exciting as that one. G1 and G4 felt like the same game in terms of build/strategy and especially Larva's execution. Which is not necessarily a bad thing. I love watching BW ZvZ and this is my second-favorite kind, where there is an intentional asymmetry between the players. 1 base spire vs. 2 base spores at the most basic level for example. (My favorite kind is any ZvZ that sees at least one devourer made) | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
That last game was pretty insane with the constant ling backstabs. He'll always avoid the overlord vision and send in a ling from another angle or he'll do a distraction and then snipe drones with some mutas before escaping. He had the advantage after hero couldn't take down or do enough in the early game and maintained it through various tactics to build up his muta count. Rough for hero but at least he's seeded so he'll be back and we'll get to crown a new ASL champion whether another zerg championship to join Effort and Zero or a new Protoss champion to join the likes of Shuttle and Rain. Will be great either way! | ||
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RKC
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On May 28 2021 09:36 BigFan wrote: This was an amazing series. Who would've thought Larva takes it 4-0 after having a losing record against hero in ASL to my knowledge (he got eliminated by hero back in asl4). It's true that hero had some less than stellar muta micro moments this series and his multitasking wasn't up to par at times, but I think part of it was Larva just really elevating his game to the next level. That last game was pretty insane with the constant ling backstabs. He'll always avoid the overlord vision and send in a ling from another angle or he'll do a distraction and then snipe drones with some mutas before escaping. He had the advantage after hero couldn't take down or do enough in the early game and maintained it through various tactics to build up his muta count. Rough for hero but at least he's seeded so he'll be back and we'll get to crown a new ASL champion whether another zerg championship to join Effort and Zero or a new Protoss champion to join the likes of Shuttle and Rain. Will be great either way! No hope for humanity huh T_T | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4127 Posts
Humanity flashed away :-) | ||
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Sadist
United States7284 Posts
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ruhtraeel
Canada122 Posts
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oxKnu
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On May 31 2021 04:28 ruhtraeel wrote: I'm so confused about how good Hero actually is. He made the finals once, playing amazingly, then he's been probably the most inconsistent player since then (alongside Sharp and Mini), losing to players ranked way lower than him, then somehow makes the semifinals, beating insanely good players like Rush? Allow me to clue you in: He plays zerg! | ||
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ggsimida
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
Need more pimpsuits in StarCraft | ||
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FakeFin
Germany392 Posts
On May 31 2021 04:28 ruhtraeel wrote: I'm so confused about how good Hero actually is. He made the finals once, playing amazingly, then he's been probably the most inconsistent player since then (alongside Sharp and Mini), losing to players ranked way lower than him, then somehow makes the semifinals, beating insanely good players like Rush? He made 3rd place the season after his 2nd place, then he went to military service, came back, made one ro16 and is now made the semifinals again... very inconsistent indeed | ||
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Optimate
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LpTraxamillion
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On May 31 2021 12:44 FakeFin wrote: He made 3rd place the season after his 2nd place, then he went to military service, came back, made one ro16 and is now made the semifinals again... very inconsistent indeed Hero is a top3 Zerg and top5 player overall | ||
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ruhtraeel
Canada122 Posts
On May 31 2021 12:44 FakeFin wrote: He made 3rd place the season after his 2nd place, then he went to military service, came back, made one ro16 and is now made the semifinals again... very inconsistent indeed If you watch ASTL and Ultimate Battle and look at the sponbbang rankings, he is incredibly inconsistent On May 31 2021 16:28 LpTraxamillion wrote: Hero is a top3 Zerg and top5 player overall I'd probably put Zero, Larva and maybe Soma ahead of him at the moment | ||
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