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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
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Group E
MBC game
2:30am TL.net time
Much[gm] (P-CJ) < Monty Hall > InteR.Mind (T-Pantech)
Canata (T-SKT) < Monty Hall > TheZerg[HyO] (Z-MBC)
Winners @ < Python >
Losers @ < Python >
Winner/Loser @ < Desperado >
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Well, a pretty nondescript group I guess.
I'm actually looking forward to what Mind and TheZerg can do, since Pantech (WeMade) desperately needs another solid 1v1 option, and MBC lacks a zerg ace (Shark is no ace, mind you) and TheZerg has showns some solid game sense in the 2v2's. Who knows, maybe he can really turn the corner and become something we don't expect.
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Mind > Matter (er, Much)
Canata > TheZerg
Canata > Mind
TheZerg > Much
Mind > TheZerg
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Has to be Much and Canata here.
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I'm more interested in the other two players, 40-year-old toss and mr. individual league choker. But if Mind and TheZerg can show Starleague-caliber play, then that's great too.
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TheZerg is not bad at all T.T!
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Much definitely
Not too sure about the other 3 tho
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On August 01 2007 23:30 Myrmidon wrote:
I'm more interested in the other two players, 40-year-old toss and mr. individual league choker. But if Mind and TheZerg can show Starleague-caliber play, then that's great too.
Where does the "40 year old" thing come from? The database entry for Much says
Birth Date: 1984-01-13 Age: 23 (Korean: 24)
Or is this info wrong?
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51471 Posts
It's an in-joke.
Much and Mind are my picks.
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Care to elaborate on the joke?
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damn that joke is about to die...
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Much looks like an old man hence 40-year-old-toss
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On August 02 2007 01:13 defenestrate wrote:
Care to elaborate on the joke?
HE LOOKS OLD
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Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
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Thanks corinthos. I'm interested in this group mainly just to see how canata does I hope he will impress with some really great performances.
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only game i want to see is Much vs Canata. I haven't seen Canata play in a while.
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Much > Intermind with Carriers
Canata > TheZerg with standard macro based play and sexiness
Canata > Much with a timing rush
Inter.Mind > TheZerg Just cause 
Much > Inter.Mind with something...
I'm probably the only person who does predictions and doesnt liquibet at all
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51471 Posts
got a 200kbps one for us unfortunate? :O
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Your effort is much appreciated, thank you
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
Corinthos to the rescue~~
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On August 02 2007 02:32 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Much > Intermind with Carriers Canata > TheZerg with standard macro based play and sexiness Canata > Much with a timing rush Inter.Mind > TheZerg Just cause Much > Inter.Mind with something... I'm probably the only person who does predictions and doesnt liquibet at all
I have no idea how you can have faith in Canata's TvP.
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Quick question, is it just me or is SC2's mbc stream very very laggy (hence corinthos posting his server)? I'm at my apartment right now trying to test out my connection on SC2 and I'm wondering if this is just me experiencing problems.
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Monty hall
Much - white @ bottom
Intermind - brown @ top
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51471 Posts
did i just see white people
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Much -> 1 gate, core
Mind -> 2 facts, delayed his gas for some reason
Much took expand @4 after couple goons
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Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
On August 02 2007 02:33 GTR-2-Go wrote:got a 200kbps one for us unfortunate? :O
mms://69.59.21.99:3000
bit-rate 300kbps
There is no life below this point.
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51471 Posts
works oarsame fine thanks!
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On August 02 2007 02:42 HaXxorIzed wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2007 02:32 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Much > Intermind with Carriers Canata > TheZerg with standard macro based play and sexiness Canata > Much with a timing rush Inter.Mind > TheZerg Just cause Much > Inter.Mind with something... I'm probably the only person who does predictions and doesnt liquibet at all I have no idea how you can have faith in Canata's TvP.
The wise work in mysterious ways
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That was some really poor decesion making from much..
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Inter impressed me
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51471 Posts
this game is pretty much done
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Much disappointed me 
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Why is Much still in the game? This is pointless.
edit
gg finally
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Ok terrans THATS how you deal with carriers. Pay attention
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Old man is poo poo now ;(
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well those carriers totaly not hidden ... it was game over after that terran expanded 2 or 3 times and toss expanded 1 time and late that was v.poor play from P
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Russian Federation987 Posts
Much is done. He must retire I think.
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On August 02 2007 03:15 Organ wrote:
Much is done. He must retire I think.
I hope you're joking.
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On August 02 2007 03:15 Organ wrote:
Much is done. He must retire I think.
Might want to at least wait until the group is over
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Any korean wanting to translate why they paused?
edit: Looks like TheZerg has computer problems.
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51471 Posts
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Russian Federation987 Posts
On August 02 2007 03:18 Puosu wrote:I hope you're joking.
Not at all. 22 years is the age where many progamers start slumping and cannot play their full strength or maybe lose interest in the game. Much is already 22(23).
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TheZerg reminds me of a crack baby...
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Russian Federation987 Posts
On August 02 2007 03:19 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Might want to at least wait until the group is over
I don't believe he will make it .
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On August 02 2007 03:21 Organ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2007 03:18 Puosu wrote:On August 02 2007 03:15 Organ wrote:
Much is done. He must retire I think. I hope you're joking. Not at all. 22 years is the age where many progamers start slumping and cannot play their full strength or maybe lose interest in the game. Much is already 22(23).
-_-
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Common Canata ....SKT1 needs you to stop sucking.
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lol
Silver's build attempt and hidden factory at the same line
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silver's build vs midas' build
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gg from theZerg
Very refreshing game after long pvt
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hey I'm on a 9 correct voting streak! What's everyone else's best?
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Hottest Voting Streak 13 Correct votes in a row
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Russian Federation987 Posts
+1 Terran at MSL at least.So many fucking terrans everywhere. It's just disappointing.
OSL has 6T, 4Z, 2P now and in the best case will have 8T 5Z 3P, in worst 10T 4Z 2P.
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commentator said WeMade EX! i didn't expect them to retain the EX part of the team name.
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wich is wich?
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Canata is white, you can tell by the SKT next to his name in the top left corner, although it's blurry, for me at least.
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why dose canta proxy fact every game?
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Absoulutely beautiful play by Canata. That was brilliant.
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On August 02 2007 03:47 Tomhas wrote:
why dose canta proxy fact every game?
Because hes THAT fuckin leet. Hes like "Pssh I only need 10 minutes to make MSL..thanks".
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agree that was art
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i Hope now that zerg will show some kind of nice play and eliminate much in a nice style
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Wait I realized I could be completely wrong...lets see Ya TheZerg is doing a 3 hatch lair muta build with hydra den made to look like its timed for lurks. Hes adding another hatch in the top left corner. Much is going reaver sair.
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Russian Federation987 Posts
What's going on there? Much getting raped of course?
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Fairly even so far. If much fails to stop the top left expo fairly soon he could be in trouble though.
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I like much's build. Hes expanding to the northern Island and adding 2 gates plus citadel.
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Hes doing some sort of sair/reaver into sair dt hybrid build Nice. Or at least thats what it looks like so far.
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Hahah nice...much moves in with sair/reaver in shuttle but thezerg quickly burrows his drones and so much doesnt even try to drop
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Much adding more gates..his temp archeives is done. HIs island expo is warped in and he is adding gates for a total of 5. Obviously playing to move out with a sweet mass speed zeal reaver/sair combo. I like. Dt droped in thezergs base again but burrow drones save any drone loses yet again.
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Russian Federation987 Posts
Burrowing is so underused against sair reaver.
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Russian Federation987 Posts
Thanks for reports mutaman .
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The zerg drops hydra/sair into muchs main but much deals with most of them. A lone lurker is preventing him from mining from half the min line. Some nifty probe targeting deals with it though.
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Much gets Lurker and Hydra dropped but it doesn't do as much damage as it would have if he went straight Sair-Reaver. His hybrid build is nicely build for offense and defense and he manages to take out the Lurkers even without detection. Needless to say, Observatory's up for Much.
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A good sized hydra/lurk army vs zeal/goon/reaver (in 2 shuttles) + sair support. Looks pretty close. Id give the slight edge to much. They arent fighting yet though.
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Extremely large Hydra Lurk army for TheZerg in the middle - a lot of Lurker eggs are morphing. It looks like Much has two Shuttles of Reavers or HTs (didn't see which) and around 2.5 control groups of SpeedZeals, HTs and Dragoons. Much is expanding to the 5-o'clock island.
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much gonna get owned in a second
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The zerg is triple evoing...and has hive starting. Much has a few hts as well. The reaver working on the lurk line. A scourge brings down a shuttle with maybe a reaver in it(not both). Much starts a nexus in the lower right corner. His zeal/goon/temp army moves north but is cut off by the zerg army.
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Cracklings bring down the lower right nexus as much whittles away at the main zerg army. However neither fully engage each other.
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Ouch..much loses a shuttle with both reavers in it trying to micro vs hydras.
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A huge flank crushes the protoss army
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However while this is happening a dt gets a ton of drone kills at the top left. Its 4 and a half base zerg to 3 base toss though...
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Russian Federation987 Posts
On August 02 2007 03:15 Organ wrote:
Much is done. He must retire I think.
Qft
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TheZerg has around 20 Lurkers and does a nice ambush of Much's forces at 5 as Much attempts to rebuild his expo. Looks very bleak for Much.
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Much is wayyy too passive. He had some opportunities but instead dicked around in the middle barely engaging the zerg force until it was too late. A mass lurker/ling/hydra flank owns much's army again. Ouch.
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Zerg has HUGE army and crushes Much in every single fight now
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Nice ninja edit cat
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In reality thezerg runs over muchs nat defended with reavers/cannons/and temps. The zerg has a massive army and econ. Theres really nothing much can do at this point. He does manage to stay alive a bit longer
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Zerg takes out Much's nat at the expense of literally all of his units - Much takes the 12 Main expo and has a nice sizable force. He's popping out Zerg's Overlords as Zerg no longer has Hydras to protect them.
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TheFoReveRwaR gets pre-empted by rS]taCat's very nice Edit micro. Much has a sizable force of Zeal/Goon/Temp/Archon and is managing to defend his 12-o'clock hope. Zerg has 7 main and its natural though and has quickly rebuilt his forces due to his economic superiority.
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Much is actually doing a lot better than I thought...hes way behind but hes not down and out yet.
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TheZerg has beautiful flanks.
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He Stops muchs army yet again.
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lol controll from much he lost the 2 big fights thanks to lack of controll ... sweet
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Much's army gets caught in a flank at the 6 nat but some Storms on Much's part allows him to take out much more of the Zerg army than he should. A large Zerg force is at the 12 main though and it looks like Much is going to be dry on economy very soon.
Zerg just keeps on building Lurkers. More and more and more Lurkers.
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The zerg crushes the 12 main with mass hydra and some lurks.
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Chopin's funeral march comes up on the playlist as haraboji toss gets stomped and refuses to type out.
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much has a gay way of not tapping out when 100% lost
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Since Much is pretty much going straight Zergling-Hydra, his gas must be starting to stockpile, so there's little else he should spend it on besides Lurkers, I guess.
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Close the refridgerator on this one folks, its time to say good night The zerg is now all over the map with a massive army, much barely hanging on.
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Much gg's as his 1 island is dry and his 12 nat is destroyed, leaving him totally starved of any sort of economy. Lurkers burrowed at his nat and no Observers in sight prevent him from doing any defence. He loses his remaining forces.
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Granted TheZerg's opponent and his own execution weren't quite up to top tier level, but his style is Savioresque.
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they did the "you're fucked!" camera zoom at least 3-5 times on much this game alone. Dude should learn when to quit sometimes, especially if he is going to play anything less than perfect for the rest of the game, but no we get to see untold numberes of protoss army's get slaughtered time and again to lair tech. The second i saw his build i didnt think much had much of a chance.
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His late game sucked, though -_-
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Rivethead, much's build was actually pretty awesome. It was a great build. The exeution of it was god awful though. Like I said much had a great window of opportunity that he completely wasted.
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his controll was awafull and lost him the game ... if he won the 1st big fight not losing all the zlots to hydra with no storm there at all and loosing goons to zergling+lurkers from botttom was an awfull dispay of nocontroll . Than leting to guard his expo with zelo+goon only that was owned in 10sec was prety stupid play
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Ouch, TvZ on Desperado. Don't pull a Midas, Mind.
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Mind spaws 4 on Desperado and Zerg spawns 2. Zerg's Overlord goes the correct way.
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mass ling + muta o.o .. 2 hatch... 1 barracks soon firebat and medic.. will be close, though.
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Well, I was just at the bathroom, so here's what's happened. Zerg goes earlier tech and makes a Lair before his second Hatchery, which is currently going up at his nat. Mind has some Marines holding his ramp and a lifted-off CC in his natural due to the threat of Zerg's Lings.
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Mutas in build, 2 barracks building mm , LING KILL ALL MARINE ONLY FIREBAT SURVIVE;;; 3rd barracks goes up
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4 new marines vs 5 mutalisks of thezerg. .... all depend on micro now
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Mind moves out and engages Zerg's lings with a small force of MMF. The Firebats give Mind's units enough of an edge and as two more Firebats come out, Zerg retreats. Spire is up for Zerg and Mutas are harassing.
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TheZerg kickend scvs @main .. sending speedlings @nat.. bunker up for mind
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Firebats go into a bunker placed at Mind's mineral choke to prevent lings from interfering as Mind's Turrets and Marines take potshots at Zerg's Mutas. Mind's running off of three Barracks currently.
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Russian Federation987 Posts
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Mind's nat is currently running, but my connection to the MBC stream just dropped so it'll be a bit before I can continue reporting.
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as I said, thezerg is not bad at all-.-
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Four turrets are at Mind's nat and some turrets are pockmarked around his main. Factory is going up for Mind but they don't show enough of Zerg's base to give me any sort of indication of what he's doing. Just seems like he's rallying Lings and Mutas to Mind's base.
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Mind has around 6 Turrets at his main mineral line and a few others placed by his Barracks and Factory and whatnot. Some nice Muta numbers from Zerg are slowly taking out Mind's M&M force faster than he can replenish it.
Starport + Control Tower is up for Mind and Science Facility is going up too.
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mind's starport nearly done
mutas picked of some m&m
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Only about half of Zerg's mutas are doing harass and the other half are clumped with the Zerglings outside of Mind's base. Hive tech is up for TheZerg and it's looking quite bleak for Mind, who's behind in both tech and numbers.
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It looks like Mind's managed to stave off any Muta harass from Zerg for now. He has 3 tanks and a lot of M&M. Another Starport is going up for Mind.
Make that two Starports, sans Control Towers. Looks like he's going for Wraiths out of those two. Interesting. Control Tower was researching cloak as well.
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Ninja Lurkers and Hydras (Observers haven't been looking at Zerg's base at all) are now burrowed at his nat. Zerg's Mutas route half of Mind's M&M force while they're en route to Zerg's base.
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Guardians are up for Zerg and are currently in Mind's base but they're quickly taken out by Wraiths that pop just in time for Mind. One of Mind's extra Starports has a Control Tower on it now.
Zerg has since expanded to the 11 main and Mind's pressuring it with some Marines. Lurkers burrowed there prevent any damage from being done, though.
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The Zerg is terrible and that gg was premature as hell. Waste my time watching that game.
Oh yeah someone needs to tell him that having half of his mutas doing nothing while he is doing a muta harass is retarded. The more mutas the better, but The Zerg prefers to send his units in to die piecemeal.
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As TheZerg's Sunken line is broken, he attempts to defend with Mutas/Guards/Devourers/Hydras. Once those are disposed of, he gg's.
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f... ;/ why havent he done defiler mound having that expo with gass;/
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lol Terran turle the whole and move out and win
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well if u mass harased with muta u should do that
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thezerg showed what exactly is needed to be a good ZergvT...
and he lacks all this
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wow i really thought TheZerg had that game TT_TT
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surprise surprise, two terrans going through.
so balanced these days....................
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did i get home just in time to miss out on all 5 games?
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Damnit, Much lost and Canata got through. :/
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Highways speaks always truthfully.
Savior is still the best gamer in the world but one must admit that Bisuit is also great. These two make a little revolution in the old game. They are really champions.
Still Savior is the greatest!
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nooooooo
more terran
nooooooo
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Why do they use shit maps for qualifiers like Monty Hall and Desperado.
Fuckn aye. I think last season, OGN's maps were 10000x better than the MSL maps.
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"People need to stop voting for much, he sux"
- Locked
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yakii
Korea (South)1448 Posts
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Thanks yakii.
Did Canata lose a single unit vs TheZerg? :o
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EPT
