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went about 4 mins.

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fun ending.

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yes if you liked the first game

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skip

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you know, I think I put in more effort on the preview of this series than I should have.

prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8515 Posts
May 09 2021 11:06 GMT
#41
We should remember Jaedong vs Yellow{arnc} ! Very short match too !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4230 Posts
May 09 2021 11:06 GMT
#42
hilarious..
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-09 11:35:36
May 09 2021 11:13 GMT
#43
Lol I tuned in expecting to have missed the first game, and the series is already done and the stream has ended????

edit: one awesome thing with afreeca is that the vod is available instantly https://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/72249731
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8515 Posts
May 09 2021 12:21 GMT
#44
Best, with a message for his fans!

현제가 너무 잘하고 제가 못했네용
음 그동안 대회하면서 제 한계에 대해 많이 부정했었는데
오늘로서 한계를 확실히 알게되서 차라리 후련하네요
응원해주신분들에게 항상 실망만 안겨드려서 죄송합니다 그리고 감사합니다
다음시즌에 뵙겠습니다

I removed the extra lines

Google translate:

I'm so good at it now and I couldn't
Well, during the competition, I denied my limitations a lot
As of today, I know the limits for sure, so I'd rather be relieved.
I'm sorry that I always disappointed the people who supported me and thank you.
See you next season


Source: https://www.youtube.com/c/도재욱TV/community
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-09 12:44:18
May 09 2021 12:43 GMT
#45
On May 09 2021 21:21 prosatan wrote:
Best, with a message for his fans!

현제가 너무 잘하고 제가 못했네용
음 그동안 대회하면서 제 한계에 대해 많이 부정했었는데
오늘로서 한계를 확실히 알게되서 차라리 후련하네요
응원해주신분들에게 항상 실망만 안겨드려서 죄송합니다 그리고 감사합니다
다음시즌에 뵙겠습니다

I removed the extra lines

Google translate:

I'm so good at it now and I couldn't
Well, during the competition, I denied my limitations a lot
As of today, I know the limits for sure, so I'd rather be relieved.
I'm sorry that I always disappointed the people who supported me and thank you.
See you next season


Source: https://www.youtube.com/c/도재욱TV/community

google translate is so off in the beginning.
"I'm so good at it now and I couldn't"

Here's how I've translated.
"Mini is super strong and I played bad.
I denied my limit when I participated tournaments, but
I finally realized my limit after today's match and I feel better after the pressure(he has gone through)
I'm sorry for disappointing to the people who were cheering me and thank you
See you in the next season of the tournament"


Google translate won't work well for Korean language because we drop out subject or even object and it still makes sense.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50607 Posts
May 09 2021 12:48 GMT
#46
I feel for best,
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3115 Posts
May 09 2021 12:57 GMT
#47
Best's PvZ seems to improve a lot recently and he's still the best in PvT. He's just unlucky he gets paired with Mini. Now go back to online games and dominate the KCM series where you don't have to play PvP. With Bisu virtually annoucing his retirement now, Best has become the only prominent figure left for Protoss.
Muirhead
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States556 Posts
May 09 2021 13:08 GMT
#48
On May 09 2021 21:57 TMNT wrote:With Bisu virtually annoucing his retirement now, Best has become the only prominent figure left for Protoss.


What did Bisu announce?
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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1240 Posts
May 09 2021 13:12 GMT
#49
On May 09 2021 21:57 TMNT wrote:
Best's PvZ seems to improve a lot recently and he's still the best in PvT. He's just unlucky he gets paired with Mini. Now go back to online games and dominate the KCM series where you don't have to play PvP. With Bisu virtually annoucing his retirement now, Best has become the only prominent figure left for Protoss.


Best has been around for a very long time AND has been one of the Top8 active BW players for a very large part of that, yet he has the weakest results in official matches out of that top group.

The primary frustration with this player is not the fact that he bombs out in the first round of the play-offs. It's the fact that he is always performing overwhelmingly in these tournaments. Even when he pulls through his games are riddled with mistakes and decisions that are nowhere to be found in regular spon matches.

It's pretty clear that he is a headcase and today Mini exploited him to the absolute maximum. As he ultimately declared in his post-match interview as well.

Tournament play is pretty complex and heavy on mindgames, and if you're not Flash or Zero (especially vs P) then you should not assume that your strategy is winning (like skipping zealot, not aggressively scouting etc) because you should be better mid to late game.
kaspa84
Profile Joined July 2016
Brazil169 Posts
May 09 2021 13:36 GMT
#50
On May 09 2021 20:13 superjoppe wrote:
Lol I tuned in expecting to have missed the first game, and the series is already done and the stream has ended????

edit: one awesome thing with afreeca is that the vod is available instantly https://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/72249731


Here it's only a 3 second video.
Sokokrey
Profile Joined January 2018
74 Posts
May 09 2021 14:22 GMT
#51
-___________________________-
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3115 Posts
May 09 2021 14:40 GMT
#52
On May 09 2021 22:08 Muirhead wrote:
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On May 09 2021 21:57 TMNT wrote:With Bisu virtually annoucing his retirement now, Best has become the only prominent figure left for Protoss.


What did Bisu announce?



He posted it a few days after his elimination. I don't speak Korean but the video has subtitles, and its title is "Last competition" with a #retirement hashtag. Basically he was saying ASL12 will be his last tournament. In the meantime he's still hanging around with sponmatches and online tournaments I guess, but it's safe to say Bisu's lost his competitive edge.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
May 09 2021 18:20 GMT
#53
Most disappointing ASL ro8 ever. Sad for BeSt, always getting hammered at ro8.

I think Bisu needs to hang on a little bit, he's not in his top form after military so I don't understand why he wants to quit... With Flash going army and Bisu retires, Stork isn't delivering, who knows if JD's comeback will be good, what we have left? Dark times approach.
sunbeams are never made like me...
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-09 20:17:09
May 09 2021 20:14 GMT
#54
I expected Mini to win, but that was way more brutal than I thought it would be. The games were fun, at least as someone who isn't a huge Best fan.

As for Bisu's retirement, it's probably for the best. His performances have been pretty uninspiring since returning from the military. Maybe this way he'll be motivated to go out with a bang.
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States365 Posts
May 10 2021 00:50 GMT
#55
Mini with zero expression for once, and BeSt just smiling the whole time he's getting double 9 gated >:

At least Mini will be a good match against Queen if JyJ doens't surprise me. I imagine BeSt might have flopped against Queen in Ro4.

Sad to hear Bisu's tournament retirement His Ro24 games were great and he's like the only one who's always doing the dragoon sweeping mine micro which is super fun to watch.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
May 10 2021 04:15 GMT
#56
These games were fun in an “I hope this type of series doesn’t happen too often, but every once in a while it’s neat to see” sort of way.

Tournaments are just different.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
May 10 2021 06:08 GMT
#57
Feel bad for Best. He is just too susceptible to mind games and tricks. It all began with losing 0-3 to July in the 2008 EVER OSL final.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
May 10 2021 07:05 GMT
#58
Guess I'm in the minority thinking this match was awesome
I think the way Mini played was top tier. This is how Flash played in his very first televised games, making people think he was just a cheeser who'd never amount to much. Sometimes to reach the top you just gotta run a circus show.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2395 Posts
May 11 2021 09:30 GMT
#59
I don't know enough about PvP to have any idea what Best really did wrong there. Like that cheese is vicious when you get the pylon block on the dragoon like in game 3. Someone more knowledgeable, what did Best do that was such horrible play in the cheese games?

He definitely seemed behind, temporally behind, in G2 though. Like you could see him making moves to Mini after Mini did them already to him in his base. Kinda showing that Mini knew the killer moves and Best was meanwhile flustered by those and playing catch-up.
The original Bogus fan.
JoinTheRain
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
Bulgaria409 Posts
May 11 2021 09:52 GMT
#60
On May 11 2021 18:30 Turbovolver wrote:
what did Best do that was such horrible play in the cheese games?
.


I don't think he played horrible mechanically. The way I see it, his train of thought was like "I'm kind of the best when it comes to macro. Let me just use my tech builds and lead into my macro game and I win." He went the tech builds in both the short games, didn't even build a zealot the first game which was too greedy for a two player map. And while he built one in the second short game, it was already too late of an adjustment, to adapt in the possibly last game of the series. If anything, I think Best should've cheesed in the third game.
Anyway, brilliant if not the prettiest games from Mini, gl to him in the Ro4
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