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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 19:53:40
March 03 2020 19:50 GMT
#121
On March 04 2020 01:45 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2020 01:31 mishimaBeef wrote:
when i looked at soulkey v mong on escalade and how he came back against an established high tank count with overlords, lings and ultras mostly it makes me think you need firebats, adrenal glands is too efficient

yeah it boggles my mind how terrans still refuse to add a bat or two early game, and start mixing firebats into the mix for mid game bionic army before the inevitable full mech switch..

But they do, at least for 2 rax pushes into 2 hatch mutas and the like.

Anyways I rewatched the match and Rush was never ahead. He ran into a bunch of lurkers not realising there was more to the north and ran his top marines for a surround straight into lurker splash. Rush lost his science vessel timing due to that and completely lost momentum that's supposed to occur. It isn't that having so many science vessels isn't worth it, but that he couldn't get the opportunity to use them to its fullest potential due to lack of map control. The large amounts of science vessels can obtain critical mass, but it's crucial to obtain map control so you can irradiate defilers/ultras/lurkers units early and have plenty of space to retreat to against dark swarms. It's really impressive rewatching how Zero completely outmanoeuvres Rush at every moment afterwards. Several times he managed to move a defiler + small amounts of units past Rush's units and into his bases. It's already too late when the dark swarms are in your base and that's what happened here.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 03 2020 21:05 GMT
#122
Oh man, awesome games! Casters killed it too. Great time, love BW
KTY
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
March 03 2020 21:51 GMT
#123
On March 03 2020 20:45 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
holy shit this might be the throw of the decade. . .

why wouldnt he just kill that hatch that was out of range of the sunken.. wtf


Anyone know the answer to this? Seems like sniping that hatch would've been really easy
kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States620 Posts
March 03 2020 23:07 GMT
#124
Just a small nitpick but are they pronouncing inner coven wrong (pronounced cUHven)?
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 04 2020 00:10 GMT
#125
On March 04 2020 06:51 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2020 20:45 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
holy shit this might be the throw of the decade. . .

why wouldnt he just kill that hatch that was out of range of the sunken.. wtf


Anyone know the answer to this? Seems like sniping that hatch would've been really easy
Smelt blood I guess. Feels like protecting the cannons would have been best. So much anticipation to them finally going up, then he immediately abandons them and they are overrun with lings. Wasted. Then he could have scouted the map to check for a sneaky hatch and taken it out while holding the ramp.
KTY
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19229 Posts
March 04 2020 00:55 GMT
#126
Man this group was so fun to watch! Amazing effort by all players (except mini )!
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2392 Posts
March 04 2020 01:44 GMT
#127
Not at all surprising to see Mini lose like this.

Really enjoyable games, though! So amazing to have ASL to watch, truly a pleasure, even the groups people were calling boring / bad games have been wonderful.
The original Bogus fan.
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
March 04 2020 02:03 GMT
#128
Wonderful games!!! Must watch great group
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2933 Posts
March 04 2020 02:26 GMT
#129
Am I the only one who watched this and felt like everyone but Barracks just played terribly. Slugfests are nice, but this looked more like people punching themselves rather than their opponents.
Fuck KeSPA.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8085 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-04 02:43:14
March 04 2020 02:42 GMT
#130
Really fun games, really great to see how stoked barracks was to advance haha. Damn when rush sniped that defiler den I thought zero was toast, but then he REALLY made good use of his remaining defilers damn. So fucking hard to play vs T with only 3 gas. Too bad to see mini slumping pretty hard since getting 2 silvers last year, but his play just doesn't seem as good as it should be from him. Really hope he comes back better next season.
Free Palestine
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1011 Posts
March 04 2020 03:31 GMT
#131
We never know which Mini is going to show up, especially on stage. After the first few minutes on his first match, it was easy to understand which one came to play, unfortunately.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66156 Posts
March 04 2020 04:30 GMT
#132
On March 04 2020 08:07 kidcrash wrote:
Just a small nitpick but are they pronouncing inner coven wrong (pronounced cUHven)?

korean pronunciation (unless you're watching the english stream)
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66156 Posts
March 04 2020 04:31 GMT
#133
On March 04 2020 11:26 oshibori_probe wrote:
Am I the only one who watched this and felt like everyone but Barracks just played terribly. Slugfests are nice, but this looked more like people punching themselves rather than their opponents.

but that's hella entertaining regardless LOL
POGGERS
kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States620 Posts
March 04 2020 04:47 GMT
#134
On March 04 2020 13:30 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2020 08:07 kidcrash wrote:
Just a small nitpick but are they pronouncing inner coven wrong (pronounced cUHven)?

korean pronunciation (unless you're watching the english stream)

Yes im watching tasteless and artosis pronounce it that way.
Ecrilon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
501 Posts
March 04 2020 04:52 GMT
#135
Coven is pronounced like Oven, not like Cove.
There is but one truth.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 04 2020 13:32 GMT
#136
All games were great, this is the best group by far. BarrackS played surprisingly well, so I wonder if he's that good (after 11 years of training) or he got lucky. Next round will tell.

Mini played horribly, he needs to work on his weak mentality, because he's performing so good or so bad.

Sad to see Rush is gone, guy trained super hard. I always think that Rush is slowly but surely becoming stronger and more solid each season. He really needed to take that TvT because facing ZerO twice isn't an easy feat. I wouldn't say he threw the game, his early and mid game was brilliant but his mutltitask started falling apart late game.
sunbeams are never made like me...
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
March 04 2020 18:42 GMT
#137
Wow game 5 was easily the best game of the ASL so far ! Well played by both
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
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