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BLinD-RawR
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razorsuKe
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Elyvilon
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SONG BYUNG GU (no but seriously stork better be able to advance from this group I hope he's still good) | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4168 Posts
but Inner Coven and bo1 format can mess things up. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2384 Posts
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ArcadePlus
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
Inner Coven. Why have they done this? In an effort to make the game more interesting? I understand wanting to take a proactive stance in making the game less stale, but jesus. I'd rather see Third World or something in this map pool. The map isn't even that bad, it'll lead to good games. | ||
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konadora
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4168 Posts
On February 18 2020 16:48 ArcadePlus wrote: Inner Coven. Why have they done this? In an effort to make the game more interesting? I understand wanting to take a proactive stance in making the game less stale, but jesus. I'd rather see Third World or something in this map pool. its not THAT bad we just saw some bad games on it last time around.. but yeah there were better maps in the ASL map contest imo.. Like Fatal Combat for example. I really liked that one, shame it didn't make it in. | ||
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konadora
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konadora
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radadaundandan
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oEkY
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Ziggy
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GTR
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konadora
Singapore66155 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/TMyIlEa.jpg) truly looks mirrored XD | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4168 Posts
waiting for him to ravage his opponent's economy lines here we go! | ||
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Ziggy
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konadora
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Ziggy
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Frankenberry
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Is it on twitch anywhere ? | ||
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Ziggy
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Ziggy
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beautiful | ||
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konadora
Singapore66155 Posts
ysc can't retaliate and just forced to defend | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On February 18 2020 19:25 Frankenberry wrote: Noooo. Been looking forward to ASL starting again but I can't make this stream work properly. It constantly lags out. Is it on twitch anywhere ? Try putting the quality to high instead of source. | ||
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konadora
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konadora
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nojok
France15845 Posts
I'll have to gather more infos to decide if I love or hate this map. | ||
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GTR
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BLinD-RawR
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Motivate
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konadora
Singapore66155 Posts
On February 18 2020 19:39 Motivate wrote: lol at tasteless whinging about zvp imbalance on this map classic | ||
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StaleTosis
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they're busy theorycrafting during huge drops.. | ||
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StaleTosis
13 Posts
On February 18 2020 19:25 Frankenberry wrote: Noooo. Been looking forward to ASL starting again but I can't make this stream work properly. It constantly lags out. Is it on twitch anywhere ? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUHdRcnpxmc | ||
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Ziggy
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On February 18 2020 19:45 Ziggy wrote: not including sponbbang stats / ksl / sonic or kespa results seems wrong Seeing Stork's 40% winrate hurt some hearts I see. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66155 Posts
On February 18 2020 19:43 StaleTosis wrote: could Tastosis possibly pay LESS attention to the game? they're busy theorycrafting during huge drops.. might as well be watching the korean stream cus at least they are enthusiastic | ||
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konadora
Singapore66155 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/wtMGB.jpg) | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49994 Posts
On February 18 2020 19:48 konadora wrote: lets go JYJ I think I saw this game live on your stream. | ||
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GTR
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something you see from f-rank lol | ||
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
On February 18 2020 19:47 nojok wrote: Seeing Stork's 40% winrate hurt some hearts I see. nah, thats not the point | ||
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konadora
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Ziggy
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mechzdeus
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Also Scout lmao | ||
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konadora
Singapore66155 Posts
SCOUTTTTTTT | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49994 Posts
On February 18 2020 19:58 konadora wrote: PRINCE OF THE SKIES SCOUTTTTTTT dadadadadadada! | ||
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konadora
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mechzdeus
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nojok
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konadora
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Arvendilin
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nojok
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I'm curious to see how the first terran win against a protoss on this map will look like. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4168 Posts
hah.. GG | ||
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konadora
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Kerotan
England2109 Posts
On February 18 2020 20:12 Arvendilin wrote: Now for Stork to get completely bopped, I'm cheering for him but I really don't see it Shame the unbeliever! | ||
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mechzdeus
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not like this stork.... | ||
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konadora
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nojok
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Wonk
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4168 Posts
but what can you do. hope for good last game. | ||
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oshibori_probe
United States2932 Posts
On February 18 2020 20:54 M3t4PhYzX wrote: full bo1 group is seriously disgusting.. but what can you do. hope for good last game. I'm glad they've returned to it. It's how broodwar tournaments have always been, and always should be. KSL doesn't count. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On February 18 2020 20:54 M3t4PhYzX wrote: full bo1 group is seriously disgusting.. but what can you do. hope for good last game. You don't want the better player to win all the time from an entertainment perspective. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4168 Posts
On February 18 2020 21:05 nojok wrote: You don't want the better player to win all the time from an entertainment perspective. at least make the losers and decider bo3 2 games and you're out is just way too cruel in 2020 | ||
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Wonk
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konadora
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Ziggy
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BLinD-RawR
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Liquid`Drone
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bad shape for p when z has 6 hatches up before you add second gateway. | ||
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razorsuKe
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M3t4PhYzX
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nice group, all in all | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
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StaleTosis
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konadora
Singapore66155 Posts
On February 18 2020 23:29 StaleTosis wrote: i love inner coven, anything to shake up the stale 'every map should be basically fighting spirit' meta amen | ||
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Dante08
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PVJ
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oshibori_probe
United States2932 Posts
On February 18 2020 21:12 Ziggy wrote: still a good showing considering this was huro's tv debut I'm sure having no larva fans there made it easier, but he really did look like he belonged in the Ro24 instead of being some bum who displaced an established person in the qualifiers. | ||
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1669 Posts
Tell me elitists OTHER THAN TRADITION - Why is BO1 better than BO3? Didnt they do BO3 in losers and deciders match last season? Preferred that much more I'm not saying EVERYTHING has to be BO3 bc they would take forever in SC1 But embrace some change for once, i think BO1 is so dumb, ESPECIALLY in matchups like PvP edit: oops, I was wrong. There still is BO3 in RO16. I'm okay with that | ||
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QOGQOG
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On February 20 2020 08:45 ShowTheLights wrote: BO1 is so stupid Tell me elitists OTHER THAN TRADITION - Why is BO1 better than BO3? Didnt they do BO3 in losers and deciders match last season? Preferred that much more I'm not saying EVERYTHING has to be BO3 bc they would take forever in SC1 But embrace some change for once, i think BO1 is so dumb, ESPECIALLY in matchups like PvP Bo3, as with last season, starts in losers/deciders in Ro16. Also, honestly, I don't see what result would have changed. Maybe Horang2 advances second? So far it seems like the strongest players have advanced. Personally, I enjoy when each match has huge stakes, but I don't really see how elitism enters into things. I'm just happy ASL is back. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
But to be exact, these groups are Bo3's for each involved player. Everyone get's second chance. Larva and Jyj were 1:1 and played decider. Same with Bisu. I don't see how matchups come into the picture. But I understand your issue with formats, I personally would like to see OSL-style round robins again, I think that does best service for BW. So, there are of course many preferences they must be doing great job I think in accomodating most (see the Bo3 in Ro16) Are these arguments you are willing to accept? | ||
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oshibori_probe
United States2932 Posts
On February 20 2020 08:45 ShowTheLights wrote: BO1 is so stupid Tell me elitists OTHER THAN TRADITION - Why is BO1 better than BO3? Didnt they do BO3 in losers and deciders match last season? Preferred that much more I'm not saying EVERYTHING has to be BO3 bc they would take forever in SC1 But embrace some change for once, i think BO1 is so dumb, ESPECIALLY in matchups like PvP Here's some reasons: 1.It rewards players who come up with an innovative strategy against a particular player on a particular map. These are some of the most entertaining games, even if the diabolical plan fails. Go rewatch Nada's nuke timing push vs Larva on Blockchain if you want to see an example of this. 2. It adds a lot of suspense to every game while keeping the broadcasts to a reasonable length. With most ex pros streaming and playing other online leagues, it's not like we are being robbed of content with a short and sweet group. 3. Despite all of the fears of it somehow threatening peoples favorite player with an upset elimination, these crazy upsets are still very rare. Bonjwas and successful players have largely stuck around the top regardless of the number of games. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
As for the BO1, I for one am glad that it's Bo1. Bo3 are great in later stages (quarterfinals and onwards) but group stages being Bo1 are great for both time and unique strategy perspective. Players also get a chance to redeem themselves and as mentioned above, it's rare to see favourite drop out even with this format. I hope Afreeca keeps it moving forward. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4168 Posts
On February 20 2020 08:45 ShowTheLights wrote: BO1 is so stupid Tell me elitists OTHER THAN TRADITION - Why is BO1 better than BO3? Didnt they do BO3 in losers and deciders match last season? Preferred that much more I'm not saying EVERYTHING has to be BO3 bc they would take forever in SC1 But embrace some change for once, i think BO1 is so dumb, ESPECIALLY in matchups like PvP i think that in group stage of such a major tournament, especially in 2020, losers match and decider match should be bo3 especially that qualification tournaments are all full bo3.. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
On February 21 2020 01:58 M3t4PhYzX wrote: i think that in group stage of such a major tournament, especially in 2020, losers match and decider match should be bo3 especially that qualification tournaments are all full bo3.. That's an elimination bracket and these are groups. But just to reiterate what has been said above and so those also have something to watch who prefer Bo3's in groups stages there's KSL. And we can check how many time even Bo5's were total sweeps. Group stages work different and I think there have been many points fairly describing why it works better with Bo1. | ||
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xccam
Great Britain1150 Posts
On February 21 2020 01:58 M3t4PhYzX wrote: i think that in group stage of such a major tournament, especially in 2020, losers match and decider match should be bo3 especially that qualification tournaments are all full bo3.. I don't agree. You have 3 games in your group - if you lose 2 you are out. If instead of a group stage we just had bo3s now no one would complain, but because it's 3 bo1s suddenly "lose a bo1 and you're out". Hey, you want to still be in the next round? Don't lose 2 of your games. | ||
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oshibori_probe
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