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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 11:27:51
February 16 2020 02:27 GMT
#1

Afreeca Starleague Season 9


Sunday, Feb 16 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)Afreeca Starleague Season 9


Casters & Hosts


Tasteless | Artosis | RAPiD | NoRegreT


Streams


Korean Afreeca Stream
ENG Afreeca Stream (Tastosis)


Matchups and Maps



[image loading]      [image loading]
(P)Bisu              (Z)beast
[image loading]      [image loading]
(P)Horang2              (T)Ample






Results


+ Show Spoiler [Full results] +




Recommended Games


+ Show Spoiler [Bisu vs beast] +
Poll: Recommend Bisu vs beast?

No (11)
 
65%

If you have time (5)
 
29%

Yes (1)
 
6%

17 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Bisu vs beast?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Horang2 vs Ample] +
Poll: Recommend Horang2 vs Ample?

No (7)
 
47%

If you have time (6)
 
40%

Yes (2)
 
13%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Horang2 vs Ample?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Winners Game] +
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game?

If you have time (7)
 
54%

Yes (5)
 
38%

No (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Losers Game] +
Poll: Recommend Losers Game?

Yes (9)
 
69%

If you have time (3)
 
23%

No (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Final Game] +
Poll: Recommend Final Game?

Yes (12)
 
60%

If you have time (6)
 
30%

No (2)
 
10%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time





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Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1010 Posts
February 16 2020 04:42 GMT
#2
So excited for this ASL!! Especially to see Bisu again But with a good mix of rookies and old-schoolers like Firebathero and ForGG it's gonna be awesome.

Been too long without Tastosis too. They're my drugs and I need em D:
SCTranslator
Profile Joined February 2020
Korea (South)40 Posts
February 16 2020 06:57 GMT
#3
Hello guys,

This is one of Bisu's best PvsZ match with English subtitles, I just uploaded it;




Let's watch this until ASL starts! G L~

* Sorry for the thumbnail image quality lol but the match is awesome!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNfJZSMtKXrAKfQ3vtgSo5g
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
February 16 2020 07:07 GMT
#4
Six months between seasons is so long to wait, but i have the feeling this will be good season and I'm looking forward to seeing the games on the new maps, especially inner coven.

So glad to have Bisu back, and that we don't have to wait to see him play. At last, a protoss I can cheer for
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 09:39:12
February 16 2020 09:16 GMT
#5
Looking forward to Bisu's return, but I'm not convinced he's automatically in the finals just because he's Bisu. Today will be the litmus test to see how good his return form is.

On February 16 2020 16:07 Wonk wrote:
Six months between seasons is so long to wait, but i have the feeling this will be good season and I'm looking forward to seeing the games on the new maps, especially inner coven.

So glad to have Bisu back, and that we don't have to wait to see him play. At last, a protoss I can cheer for


Also, whoa whoa whoa whoa. Stork has been here the whole time, bro.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
February 16 2020 09:39 GMT
#6
Bisu and Ample fighting! Sorry beast and Horang2 my boys need to get through.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51408 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 09:55:39
February 16 2020 09:54 GMT
#7
awaiting the barrage of "WHY IS THERE NO CROWD" questions once the broadcast starts

answer: coronvirus has meant that a lot of live broadcasts in korea have opted to proceed without an audience until it has been controlled. this includes the asl.
Commentator
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
February 16 2020 10:00 GMT
#8
why is there no crowd


User was warned for this post
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
February 16 2020 10:02 GMT
#9
NEW STUDIO???
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51408 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 10:06:13
February 16 2020 10:03 GMT
#10
On February 16 2020 19:02 Ziggy wrote:
NEW STUDIO???


yes, it's located in jamsil (inside the lotte world building), but due to the coronavirus they haven't been able to finish it up lol.
first event there won't be asl9 but the pubg berlin qualifier on the 27th.
Commentator
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
February 16 2020 10:05 GMT
#11
On February 16 2020 19:03 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2020 19:02 Ziggy wrote:
NEW STUDIO???


yes, it's located in jamsil next to their pc bang there, but due to the coronavirus they haven't been able to finish it up lol.


i hope they bring back booths

nothing beats a good booth
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
February 16 2020 10:05 GMT
#12
There is a youtube stream aswell:

Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
February 16 2020 10:12 GMT
#13
LETS GO BISU LETS GO
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4168 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 10:21:09
February 16 2020 10:20 GMT
#14
On February 16 2020 19:05 Ziggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2020 19:03 GTR wrote:
On February 16 2020 19:02 Ziggy wrote:
NEW STUDIO???


yes, it's located in jamsil next to their pc bang there, but due to the coronavirus they haven't been able to finish it up lol.


i hope they bring back booths

nothing beats a good booth

thats so true..

anyways, go go Bisu ! ! !
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
February 16 2020 10:21 GMT
#15
I wonder why Huro went with YSC as his ID. Very poor ID
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
February 16 2020 10:22 GMT
#16
I guess they are not thinking about english users when they choose these IDs. Ss1nz instead of Changers..
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51408 Posts
February 16 2020 10:23 GMT
#17
On February 16 2020 19:22 tanngard wrote:
I guess they are not thinking about english users when they choose these IDs. Ss1nz instead of Changers..


the greatest ones are dansin and chosimzerg1, like what the fuck?
(baxter and soma)
Commentator
gDPhantom
Profile Joined January 2015
New Zealand162 Posts
February 16 2020 10:24 GMT
#18
Anyone know whats up with flash? last season was supposidly his last?
YNWA
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
February 16 2020 10:27 GMT
#19
On February 16 2020 19:24 gDPhantom wrote:
Anyone know whats up with flash? last season was supposidly his last?


Blindrawr said this in the other thread:

Has Flash Retired?
No, he took a break after the last ASL and is in fact ready to compete this ASL and is seeded directly into the Ro16

Why is Rain not playing?
no interest, hasn't been playing much BW recently so he decided to give up his seed(from making top 4 last season) which Sharp won, which is why Sharp is in the Ro16 already.

Isn't Soulkey in the military?
Soulkey is on leave due to financial reason
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
February 16 2020 10:27 GMT
#20
On February 16 2020 19:23 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2020 19:22 tanngard wrote:
I guess they are not thinking about english users when they choose these IDs. Ss1nz instead of Changers..


the greatest ones are dansin and chosimzerg1, like what the fuck?
(baxter and soma)

Someone tell them to stop

I do agree with sea.kh changing to Brain though
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
February 16 2020 10:29 GMT
#21
I for one welcome these pointless ID changes
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 10:49:48
February 16 2020 10:31 GMT
#22
....
hatred outlives the hateful
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
February 16 2020 10:33 GMT
#23
You can't build it where it's supposed to be without detection, so placing it optimally is probably a pretty big delay?
I used to have an Oz icon over here ---->
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3809 Posts
February 16 2020 10:37 GMT
#24
beast was not ready for that map

the old build no units into lose because you have no units strategy
: o )
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51408 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 10:38:43
February 16 2020 10:38 GMT
#25
On February 16 2020 19:31 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
building the nexus there.. is worth 15 more seconds od mining time!?

ô_Ô


all you want from there is the gas so it doesn't mean much.

also beast played like a f rank zerg there.
Commentator
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
February 16 2020 10:39 GMT
#26
Poll: Recommend Bisu vs beast?

No (11)
 
65%

If you have time (5)
 
29%

Yes (1)
 
6%

17 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Bisu vs beast?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
February 16 2020 10:39 GMT
#27
The map is just for Bisu.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4168 Posts
February 16 2020 10:39 GMT
#28
LMAO..

gg

that was hilarious
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
February 16 2020 10:39 GMT
#29
bisu did literally everything right
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
February 16 2020 10:40 GMT
#30
that was a disgrace, how can he skip hydra and go straight hive there
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 10:41:06
February 16 2020 10:40 GMT
#31
what games are played this season on first days? full group, or 3 bo1s, er?

also, to those coming late, skip the first game. haha
Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
TL+ Member
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1208 Posts
February 16 2020 10:41 GMT
#32
Beast strat was loosing without fighting?
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4168 Posts
February 16 2020 10:41 GMT
#33
On February 16 2020 19:40 mishimaBeef wrote:
that was a disgrace, how can he skip hydra and go straight hive there

vs Bisu, too..

idk what he was thinking, really. Huge brainfart on his part
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3809 Posts
February 16 2020 10:42 GMT
#34
On February 16 2020 19:40 -Kyo- wrote:
what games are played this season on first days? full group, or 3 bo1s, er?

also, to those coming late, skip the first game. haha


ro24 is all Bo1
: o )
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4168 Posts
February 16 2020 10:42 GMT
#35
On February 16 2020 19:40 -Kyo- wrote:
what games are played this season on first days? full group, or 3 bo1s, er?

also, to those coming late, skip the first game. haha

ro24 is all bo1, sadly..

ro16 is 2x bo1 / 3x bo3
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
February 16 2020 10:42 GMT
#36
On February 16 2020 19:40 -Kyo- wrote:
what games are played this season on first days? full group, or 3 bo1s, er?

also, to those coming late, skip the first game. haha


Ro24 all Bo1

Ro16 first 2 matches Bo1, then winners, losers and final games Bo3
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 10:45:09
February 16 2020 10:43 GMT
#37
On February 16 2020 19:42 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2020 19:40 -Kyo- wrote:
what games are played this season on first days? full group, or 3 bo1s, er?

also, to those coming late, skip the first game. haha

ro24 is all bo1, sadly..

ro16 is 2x bo1 / 3x bo3


Ah sorry, my question is worded poorly. i mean, which games from the group are played today, or is the full group played?

in previous seasons, they'd go first 2 bo1s then go to next group, but on liquipedia the other groups are scheduled on other days so i was curious.
thanks!

edit:
On February 16 2020 19:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2020 19:40 -Kyo- wrote:
what games are played this season on first days? full group, or 3 bo1s, er?

also, to those coming late, skip the first game. haha



Ro16 first 2 matches Bo1, then winners, losers and final games Bo3

this is the answer i think~ thanks
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Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1208 Posts
February 16 2020 10:45 GMT
#38
They will play full group bo1 today
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
February 16 2020 10:47 GMT
#39
Okay wtf is up with placing the nexus slight off where you would normally expect it to be
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
February 16 2020 10:48 GMT
#40
On February 16 2020 19:47 ExO_ wrote:
Okay wtf is up with placing the nexus slight off where you would normally expect it to be


theres an invisible tile, you need detection to kill it. Zerg can use overlord, toss has to get obs.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
February 16 2020 10:49 GMT
#41
On February 16 2020 19:48 Ikirouta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2020 19:47 ExO_ wrote:
Okay wtf is up with placing the nexus slight off where you would normally expect it to be


theres an invisible tile, you need detection to kill it. Zerg can use overlord, toss has to get obs.


ahh yeah they started talking about it right after I asked -- really weird map
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
February 16 2020 11:02 GMT
#42
Poll: Recommend Horang2 vs Ample?

No (7)
 
47%

If you have time (6)
 
40%

Yes (2)
 
13%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Horang2 vs Ample?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1208 Posts
February 16 2020 11:03 GMT
#43
Stupid P map ...
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
February 16 2020 11:05 GMT
#44
On February 16 2020 20:03 Xeln4g4 wrote:
Stupid P map ...


because 2 stage games is enough to judge!
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1208 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 11:09:54
February 16 2020 11:08 GMT
#45
On February 16 2020 20:05 Ikirouta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2020 20:03 Xeln4g4 wrote:
Stupid P map ...


because 2 stage games is enough to judge!



Is basically island map, and we all know how it goes pvz on island map, while on pvt, this carriers strat you can not stop. So for me its stupid map as it force one race to cheese to win ... Ample played the most logical way and was crushed.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5510 Posts
February 16 2020 11:10 GMT
#46
Did Tasteless just imply that he doesn't know the Korean alphabet? ;o
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
February 16 2020 11:12 GMT
#47
i don't see the rationale for the later drop in bottom left of protoss main, the tank drop at top right exploiting the building placement and using mines nicely was good, i believe he could see carriers were out at this point

also invested in cloak for wraiths for a whopping 3 count? some slight modification could swing that game especially if diving on observers with a decent count
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
February 16 2020 11:23 GMT
#48
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
February 16 2020 11:23 GMT
#49
Don't do this to me, bisu
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1208 Posts
February 16 2020 11:23 GMT
#50
Last fight from low ground i didnt understand ... he could recover with some patience
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
February 16 2020 11:25 GMT
#51
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game?

If you have time (7)
 
54%

Yes (5)
 
38%

No (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
February 16 2020 11:25 GMT
#52
fucking lol

I knew it, fucking horang2 does it again
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
February 16 2020 11:25 GMT
#53
ddaaammnnn what a sequence of events, dt sneak into storms that held everything down with ease.
They were talking about scarab upgrade, anyone know if bisu actually researched it? I imagine not?
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Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
February 16 2020 11:38 GMT
#54
that physically pained me to watch, poor ample
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3809 Posts
February 16 2020 11:44 GMT
#55
ample wins for some reason
: o )
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
February 16 2020 11:44 GMT
#56
Poll: Recommend Losers Game?

Yes (9)
 
69%

If you have time (3)
 
23%

No (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51408 Posts
February 16 2020 11:44 GMT
#57
shitty set of games so far tonight.
Commentator
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
February 16 2020 11:45 GMT
#58
On February 16 2020 20:44 GTR wrote:
shitty set of games so far tonight.


Yup. Losers game was the best, and it wasn't that great either.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4168 Posts
February 16 2020 11:48 GMT
#59
5x bo1 format has to go.. we get a lot of short, mediocre games..

2x bo1 / 3x bo3 is where is at
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
February 16 2020 11:49 GMT
#60
why would you need to watch 8 shitty games instead of 5?
skill disparity is so high even in ASL Ro16 and esp. KSL Ro16 neraly all Bo3 are stomps anyway
I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
February 16 2020 11:49 GMT
#61
bisuuuuu plssssss
Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4168 Posts
February 16 2020 11:51 GMT
#62
On February 16 2020 20:49 chuDr3t4 wrote:
why would you need to watch 8 shitty games instead of 5?
skill disparity is so high even in ASL Ro16 and esp. KSL Ro16 neraly all Bo3 are stomps anyway

nah, not really

beast just choked here in this group, basically

bo3 series much different mentality than bo1, brings better games
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
February 16 2020 12:06 GMT
#63
wooooooooo

moving one step closer to bisu winning everything and blind-rawr changing TL finals thread backgrounds to honor our one true king

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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
February 16 2020 12:06 GMT
#64
Poll: Recommend Final Game?

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Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
February 16 2020 12:07 GMT
#65
Well played by bisu to come from a dodgy position to overwhelm ample there
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
February 16 2020 12:07 GMT
#66
The king is back. The one true king of protoss.
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4168 Posts
February 16 2020 12:07 GMT
#67
clinical play by Bisu in the last game

that was pretty cool to see

GGs
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
February 16 2020 12:21 GMT
#68
Idk what were those tanks doing out there, ample was in the dark, why so far out ahead while having no buffer and no vision...
WriterReV hwaiting!
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4124 Posts
February 16 2020 14:11 GMT
#69
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-zZKfeZUA

Skip to 1:50:03, did one of the lurkers just disappear after burrowing below the hatchery?
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway646 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 14:32:50
February 16 2020 14:32 GMT
#70
No if u look closely you will see that the marines changes target from hatchery to lurker and kills it as its burrowing, but it looks like the marines are shooting the hatchery.
Put speed on 0.25 and you can see it
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
February 16 2020 14:46 GMT
#71
Glad we got more tosses out otherwise there are too many terrans already. Surprised that Horangee got out. Ample was shaky but he hold his ground really well vs. Bisu, guy needs to continue improving.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4124 Posts
February 16 2020 15:08 GMT
#72
On February 16 2020 23:32 Timebon3s wrote:
No if u look closely you will see that the marines changes target from hatchery to lurker and kills it as its burrowing, but it looks like the marines are shooting the hatchery.
Put speed on 0.25 and you can see it


Ok finally saw it, you have to look really hard though! Was so confused when I first saw it happen.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
February 16 2020 16:30 GMT
#73
jinu (beast now?) was super nervous

ample could have gone further if he was in any other group

and bisu almost got knocked out here :p but his decision making after sniping that CC in the last game just went full 5Head play and was so aggro with those speed-less zealots and shuttles

great games today, only wish the first game lasted longer and beast actually put up a bit of a fight lol
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Martin11
Profile Joined January 2020
16 Posts
February 16 2020 16:38 GMT
#74
Is Flash playing? I heard due to wrist injury he won't
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1006 Posts
February 16 2020 18:23 GMT
#75
Amazed by the level of everyone today. Seriously it was pathetic. Horang2 playing his C-game rolled over the group. Ouch

plast1c
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany99 Posts
February 16 2020 18:38 GMT
#76
Phew, I am so relieved that Bisue made it in the end. That flanking in his PvP against him was sick though!
kinda right, kinda wrong
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
February 16 2020 22:50 GMT
#77
ASL is back
KTY
MisterBoba
Profile Joined January 2020
Russian Federation121 Posts
February 16 2020 23:29 GMT
#78
On February 17 2020 01:30 konadora wrote:
jinu (beast now?) was super nervous

ample could have gone further if he was in any other group

and bisu almost got knocked out here :p but his decision making after sniping that CC in the last game just went full 5Head play and was so aggro with those speed-less zealots and shuttles

great games today, only wish the first game lasted longer and beast actually put up a bit of a fight lol

Lol what are you talking about? At one point he was 5 bases vs 2, he can attack with speed-less zealots all he wants.

after the double drop and more importantly sniping the third cc, he was extremely ahead all game. nothing about that game should make you think "he almost got knocked out" especially after that DT bs vs horangee
If enjoyed way you spend time, then it was not waste time )
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia12999 Posts
February 16 2020 23:55 GMT
#79
Not a huge fan of the Coven map. Willing to give it a few more games to see how it plays out but it essentially looks like another island map for protosses to dominate. ZvT on it should be interesting though.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1006 Posts
February 17 2020 00:19 GMT
#80
especially after that DT bs vs horangee


What do you mean by that?
It was a poor play, nothing else.


Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4124 Posts
February 17 2020 01:33 GMT
#81
On February 17 2020 01:38 Martin11 wrote:
Is Flash playing? I heard due to wrist injury he won't


He's playing, seeded into R.O 16.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
February 17 2020 03:39 GMT
#82
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Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8080 Posts
February 17 2020 04:08 GMT
#83
Damn sucks that Beast did so poorly, I was really hoping to see him do good this ASL after seeing him dominate KCM lately :\
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9991 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-17 04:36:43
February 17 2020 04:23 GMT
#84
was scared for bisu in his game vs ample, early game didnt look so hot

terrible showing by beast lol, im sure he was super nervous
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Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
February 17 2020 04:53 GMT
#85
On February 17 2020 13:23 TT1 wrote:
was scared for bisu in his game vs ample, early game didnt look so hot

terrible showing by beast lol, im sure he was super nervous


Yea I thought he was done for, especially when that double shuttle drop really failed to do much at all.
But yea, first 6 goons killing a CC (esp when it looked like Ample could've easily saved the CC if he had just paid attention) and then Ample losing all his tanks definitely helped a lot and made the game go from hard to win to almost impossible to lose in like 1 minute...
its me
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9991 Posts
February 17 2020 05:08 GMT
#86
ya 3rd cc snipe was game changing, prob saved him from being eliminated
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51408 Posts
February 17 2020 05:44 GMT
#87
is there a reason why ample was so focused on going for that mineral only as opposed to the raised expansion with the gas? wouldn't it have made it easier for a platform for him to push towards bisu's bases?
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Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
February 17 2020 05:56 GMT
#88
On February 17 2020 14:44 GTR wrote:
is there a reason why ample was so focused on going for that mineral only as opposed to the raised expansion with the gas? wouldn't it have made it easier for a platform for him to push towards bisu's bases?


I guess he wanted to take that base a bit later due to the fact that it has less resources... He was expanding pretty fast, so I guess if he had just hold on to that mineral only he would've taken the other one relatively soon... Just guessing though.
its me
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia12999 Posts
February 17 2020 06:26 GMT
#89
The Beast v Bisu game was interesting. It was tough for beast. Without the threat of a hydra bust it’s too easy for Ps on that map to either double stargate if they see muta or double robo if hydra.

I think he had the right idea t trying to get to quick devourers to take the cairs out of it but clearly underestimated how quickly Bisu would build cairs. Once he had a control group the scourge couldn’t do shit and he had nothing to deal with the reavers. Perhaps a scourge/hydra combo may work better while teching to devs? I dunno. It’s going to be a very hard map for zergs in ZvP.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1006 Posts
February 17 2020 06:51 GMT
#90
I disagree that the cc snipe switched the momenthum.
Giving away all your tanks while being on 2 fact did.

The failed drop, and 3 goons for the cc, I think a clutch terran would recognize the situation and, especially on a map like sylphid, add 3-4 facts stop scvs, start an immediate push and rallying vultures down.

Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4124 Posts
February 17 2020 09:38 GMT
#91
On February 17 2020 14:44 GTR wrote:
is there a reason why ample was so focused on going for that mineral only as opposed to the raised expansion with the gas? wouldn't it have made it easier for a platform for him to push towards bisu's bases?


Securing that mineral 3rd gives easier access to the 4th.

Getting the closer 3rd is easier but it also runs out faster.
MisterBoba
Profile Joined January 2020
Russian Federation121 Posts
February 17 2020 16:13 GMT
#92
On February 17 2020 09:19 TornadoSteve wrote:
Show nested quote +
especially after that DT bs vs horangee


What do you mean by that?
It was a poor play, nothing else.



That is what I am saying.
He move dragoon to nat, he expect DT at the right timing. But for some reason, Horang2 make DT not instantly instead let dragoon finish from gateway. Which make DT arrive 5s~ later than expect.
Example is it of a bad play that turn out to be good because is bad. So I say BS DT because is BS dt.... obvious my friend. Maybe try care Brood War attention? It is useful
If enjoyed way you spend time, then it was not waste time )
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
February 17 2020 18:31 GMT
#93
So happy Bisu got through, wanted Ample as well but I couldn't pick him over Bisu.
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sysen
Profile Joined June 2018
27 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-17 23:53:30
February 17 2020 23:52 GMT
#94
Dunno who posted the results of polls inside the main thread / 1st post for recommanded games (i guess it's @BLinD-RawR)

But, whoever it is : THANKS A LOT !!

Hope you can keep doing this :-)
(as it wasnt always the case for previous ASL)


oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2932 Posts
February 18 2020 02:29 GMT
#95
Man that was some low end starcraft.
Fuck KeSPA.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-18 05:16:22
February 18 2020 05:14 GMT
#96
Last game was fun and I enjoyed the TvZ even though it felt one-sided after the beginning. To be frank, while it's great that beast made it there, he's not of the same caliber of the other players imo. His first game was bad and while he did well to exploit the positioning of turrets in Ample's main, failing to defend that third cost him the game and got him eliminated. You could chuckle it up to nerves, but even during the SSL era, I don't recall him being considered a top player. Hopefully he returns next ASL with vengeance and wins it all lol.

Now, ample in game 5 openly fantastically and seemed like he could actually beat Bisu, especially when he even sniped the probe going to make the third twice and defended the double shuttle drop well in his main. However, losing the third cc then getting his tank count reset allowed Bisu to take the eco and army lead and the rest was history.
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