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[KSL4] Grand Finals - Rain vs Light

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-29 13:26:24
November 28 2019 03:16 GMT
#1

Korea StarCraft League Season 4


Friday, Nov 29 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)2019 Korea StarCraft League Season 4


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Tasteless | Artosis | RAPiD | NoRegreT


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(P)Rain              (T)Light






Results


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+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Poll: Recommend Game 1?

Yes (16)
 
76%

If you have time (5)
 
24%

No (0)
 
0%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Poll: Recommend Game 2?

Yes (18)
 
90%

No (1)
 
5%

If you have time (1)
 
5%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Poll: Recommend Game 3?

Yes (17)
 
85%

No (2)
 
10%

If you have time (1)
 
5%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Poll: Recommend Game 4?

Yes (21)
 
95%

No (1)
 
5%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

22 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


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Poll: Recommend Game 5?

Yes (19)
 
90%

No (1)
 
5%

If you have time (1)
 
5%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Poll: Recommend Game 6?

Yes (22)
 
88%

If you have time (2)
 
8%

No (1)
 
4%

25 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 6?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
November 28 2019 04:20 GMT
#2
your time has come Light, make it count baby.

LuciferMorningS <3
MBC game Hero <3
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
November 28 2019 04:25 GMT
#3
rain's V4 mmo addiction is enough to pave the way for light's first competitive title win?
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
November 28 2019 07:16 GMT
#4
Hard to see Light winning but hope he does.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
November 28 2019 08:02 GMT
#5
4-1 Rain imo

hope for some good games at least. I want Rain to win, but I don't want to see a total stompage in the finals.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
November 28 2019 11:14 GMT
#6
Yay, I can watch it before work :D

Gogo Light!
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
November 28 2019 12:11 GMT
#7
Rain's too good for this..... ez 2nd KSL trophy for Rain it seems
Oppa feeding style
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
November 28 2019 12:26 GMT
#8
By.Sun, By.Rain he'll win it all.

정 윤 종
정윤종FIGHTING!
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 28 2019 15:33 GMT
#9
oh it got pushed forward to 2pm
POGGERS
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
November 28 2019 17:10 GMT
#10
Its starting 7pm KST, not 7am CET.

Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
November 28 2019 18:13 GMT
#11
No 3rd place match? After all these marathon days of KSL I'd assume they'd have the time for that O_o
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
November 28 2019 19:22 GMT
#12
go Light
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
andertalets77
Profile Joined February 2019
143 Posts
November 28 2019 21:07 GMT
#13
will this order of maps be exactly that?
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
November 28 2019 23:47 GMT
#14
On November 29 2019 06:07 andertalets77 wrote:
will this order of maps be exactly that?

Starting map is match point afaik, the rest are loser's pick.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 29 2019 00:05 GMT
#15
Just think it's a just a giant sponmatch, Light, and you will take this!
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
November 29 2019 00:16 GMT
#16
As a protoss fan I approve if Light wins this,
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
CeJo
Profile Joined June 2019
11 Posts
November 29 2019 00:24 GMT
#17
Sarin.Rain, fight!!!
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
November 29 2019 00:56 GMT
#18
I'm cheering for Light tonight.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
November 29 2019 01:10 GMT
#19
Wait this is happening so early for NA. Why the time change? Not that I'm going to complain I can actually watch this after Thanksgiving dinner but this is new.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
November 29 2019 01:23 GMT
#20
Light 4 - 1 Rain
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
November 29 2019 01:34 GMT
#21
Rain has the edge, but Light is a different player today than he’s ever been. Never thought I’d believe in Light in a TvP series. Hope Light finally gets one after all these years!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5219 Posts
November 29 2019 01:41 GMT
#22
Gonna cheer for Light too although chances are low.

Woongjin fighting!

Why is it on Friday evening KST? Will they make it happen that Nexus arena won't be full for a major tourney finals? Hope not, would sour the event for me regardless of match quality to be honest
The heart's eternal vow
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
November 29 2019 03:12 GMT
#23
Pretty pessimistic about light, hopefully it’s good enough to keep Korean sc fans interested
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-29 04:01:36
November 29 2019 03:54 GMT
#24
Every time I watch Light play TvP against top players (Best, Snow, etc), it seems when he does win he's way behind, and then makes a few extremely efficient trades, grabs a 4th base, and then somehow turns the tides. That simply does not seem possible against Rain.

He's still a live dog because it's likely Rain's weakest matchup, but I don't like his chances here. Sportsbooks think Rain is roughly 72% to win, but that seems low to me in a bo7. Think we are looking at a 4-1 match.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
mauwee
Profile Joined August 2013
Vatican City State78 Posts
November 29 2019 03:55 GMT
#25
Rain 4-1
If what you say is true the Shaolin and the Wu-Tang could be dangerous.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1026 Posts
November 29 2019 04:07 GMT
#26
Really not sure about this one.. Could go either way.
If Rain goes for a funky cheese in the first or 2nd map, (like he always does in a BO offline),I feel like it could give an early adantage to Light who is probably the worst terran on the planet to cheese. Well see, should be fun
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
November 29 2019 05:59 GMT
#27
On November 29 2019 02:10 tanngard wrote:
Its starting 7pm KST, not 7am CET.



Noooo ;...;
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2933 Posts
November 29 2019 06:18 GMT
#28
I'm gonna make the wild prediction of Light winning 4-3, his wins being on CB, Block Chain, and Eddy... and his fourth win from pulling SCVs vs a nexus first.
Fuck KeSPA.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
November 29 2019 06:30 GMT
#29
On November 29 2019 14:59 asel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2019 02:10 tanngard wrote:
Its starting 7pm KST, not 7am CET.



Noooo ;...;


For everyone wondering that is 11:00 AM CET or 10:00 AM GMT.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Chessz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States644 Posts
November 29 2019 07:45 GMT
#30
Gogo Light!

In Seoul for first time tonight to see KSL finals in person?

Is there anyone interested in meetups or afterparty?

Any recommendations for spots near the arena?
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
November 29 2019 08:15 GMT
#31
why the spoiler in the title?
With all these 8h casts it's probably clear that many people aren't caught up yet :/
LML
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
November 29 2019 09:14 GMT
#32
Light 4-0

Sure, Rain is good but Light can lose his main command center and still win.
Brood War loyalist
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 29 2019 10:06 GMT
#33
the finals is at the nexon arena? how sad.. no more outdoor venue?
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 29 2019 10:09 GMT
#34
someone add the streams to the sidebar calendar please
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 29 2019 10:10 GMT
#35
idk why but seeing the grand finals makes this tourney look even cheaper than it already is... rip

i mean im glad we still have KSL around but still T_T
POGGERS
sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
November 29 2019 10:15 GMT
#36
#7 vs #14
Source http://sponbbang.com/bj/
I bet Light will win 1 game at least.
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byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
November 29 2019 10:20 GMT
#37
I just noticed that the resource bar is transparent, except the side with their names… so distracting
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 29 2019 10:21 GMT
#38
On November 29 2019 19:20 byj wrote:
I just noticed that the resource bar is transparent, except the side with their names… so distracting

lol now i cant unsee
POGGERS
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 29 2019 10:28 GMT
#39
Lets go Light my boiii!!!
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
November 29 2019 10:29 GMT
#40
im impressed by my ability to wake up 4 hours before the broadcast and still forget its happening
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 29 2019 10:30 GMT
#41
Grand finals and just 2 pages??? Wtf is happening
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
November 29 2019 10:35 GMT
#42
impresive performance...
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
November 29 2019 10:35 GMT
#43
GG, Rain is scary
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 29 2019 10:35 GMT
#44
light got fucking outclassed holy shit lol

SO many mistakes

late vulture roam
late turrets
no mines
barracks lost
that 8 kill reaver in the beginning
letting zealot scout before obs..
POGGERS
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 29 2019 10:39 GMT
#45
Grand finals and just 2 pages??? Wtf is happening
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
November 29 2019 10:50 GMT
#46
On November 29 2019 19:39 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Grand finals and just 2 pages??? Wtf is happening


ksl3 finals has only like 6 pages, ksl just isnt a very hype event
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-29 10:56:55
November 29 2019 10:55 GMT
#47
lets fucking gooooo baby

Light
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
November 29 2019 10:56 GMT
#48
Hahahahaha that's the Rain PvT we know and love
The original Bogus fan.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
November 29 2019 11:01 GMT
#49
On November 29 2019 19:56 Turbovolver wrote:
Hahahahaha that's the Rain PvT we know and love

The same type of recall he did vs Last. Good job by Light sniffing that out, however.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 29 2019 11:04 GMT
#50
First recall was kinda bad. What's the point of recalling into the middle of a terran army as it is moving out?
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
November 29 2019 11:09 GMT
#51
Give me three more games of that please I won't even be disappointed
The original Bogus fan.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8038 Posts
November 29 2019 11:17 GMT
#52
I MADE IT HOME!!!!!!!!!!
LET'S WATCH SOME STARCRAFT BROODWAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8038 Posts
November 29 2019 11:20 GMT
#53
Light with his poker face, as usual!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8038 Posts
November 29 2019 11:22 GMT
#54
Rain is too greedy and he doesn't scout with a probe!

Light takes his natural
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-29 11:31:50
November 29 2019 11:31 GMT
#55
Light looking kinda off this game, tons of idle SCVs and army movements are sluggish.

edit: And Tastosis just pointed out the top right resource counts. Light on 2k min / 800 gas, what's going onnnnnn
The original Bogus fan.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
November 29 2019 11:31 GMT
#56
This looks like a broken replay, wtf Light
WriterReV hwaiting!
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
November 29 2019 11:31 GMT
#57
lol observer bug xD
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8038 Posts
November 29 2019 11:32 GMT
#58
bug ?!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 29 2019 11:32 GMT
#59
How the game would look if I were playing.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
November 29 2019 11:32 GMT
#60
What unlucky timing
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
November 29 2019 11:32 GMT
#61
"if there was a fire alarm, I would pull it"

hahaha Tasteless
The original Bogus fan.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
November 29 2019 11:33 GMT
#62
lol nice bug
Brood War loyalist
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 29 2019 11:33 GMT
#63
Blizzard plz
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
November 29 2019 11:34 GMT
#64
we've merged with a parallel universe, rip
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
November 29 2019 11:34 GMT
#65
Poor Tastosis.

BANTER TIME!
WriterReV hwaiting!
FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
November 29 2019 11:34 GMT
#66
But what exactly is bugged? I mean, it's not a replay..
Check out @MapOfTheMonth on Twitter and under http://bit.ly/motmorg
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
November 29 2019 11:35 GMT
#67
I really hope that we'll get to see the full game with a replay afterwards
sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
November 29 2019 11:36 GMT
#68
On November 29 2019 20:34 FlopTurnReaver wrote:
But what exactly is bugged? I mean, it's not a replay..

Data bug in SCR ob mode, it’s known issue, so 2 obs needed.
TL+ Member
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
November 29 2019 11:37 GMT
#69
How were they so slow to react to that bug.. lol
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 29 2019 11:38 GMT
#70
Meh carreer is a lame unit.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
November 29 2019 11:39 GMT
#71
On November 29 2019 20:36 sc19980331 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2019 20:34 FlopTurnReaver wrote:
But what exactly is bugged? I mean, it's not a replay..

Data bug in SCR ob mode, it’s known issue, so 2 obs needed.

Obviously, judging from how they hadled it..
Check out @MapOfTheMonth on Twitter and under http://bit.ly/motmorg
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
November 29 2019 11:40 GMT
#72
yes blizzard, show us the features of the new patch while a 2 year old problem just ruined your final
LHK
Profile Joined May 2015
204 Posts
November 29 2019 11:42 GMT
#73
That was one of the weirdest things I've ever seen, kinda glad I got to see it live Lol
-Laura
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
November 29 2019 11:42 GMT
#74
On November 29 2019 20:40 Bakuryu wrote:
yes blizzard, show us the features of the new patch while a 2 year old problem just ruined your final

StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria334 Posts
November 29 2019 11:53 GMT
#75
this cant be true omg...
OFFICIAL #1 STORK FAN // Stork:"This past week, there's a foreign fan named Daniel who got caught on the camera a few times. He came from Vienna in Austria to come and see me, and he wanted to be mentioned in one of my interviews."
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-29 11:56:24
November 29 2019 11:56 GMT
#76
Well, it already happened once in KSL (or maybe ASL)...
edit: They just reacted way too late this time to switch to the other observer.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
November 29 2019 11:58 GMT
#77
On November 29 2019 19:39 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Grand finals and just 2 pages??? Wtf is happening


ASL doesn't have twitch chat, KSL does.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
November 29 2019 12:09 GMT
#78
SCR dev team is too small to follow all the tasks:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/starcraft/t/2019-priorities/19
+ Show Spoiler +

So without further ado - here is our priority list as we head into 2019:
(updated 9/24/19)

[P1] Team matchmaking
[P1] Disconnections from server

[P2] Observer: chat abilities - “social observer” profile on game creation
[P2] Observer: ability to pause the game (currently can’t) - “referee” profile on game creation
[P2] Options menu performance improvement (and general web UI stability improvements)
[P2] Unit count in replays (investigation)
[P2] in-game: way to reference a player name without typing their exact name - /f, /i

[P3] Abort game start if a player leaves a lobby during the countdown (investigation)
[P3] Observer desyncs
[P3] Consolidation of some or all gateways

[P4] Clan
[P4] BWAPI
[P4] Further league divisions (investigation)
[P4] Racepicking (investigation)
[P4] API to replace the web calls that StarLog.gg relied on
[P4] Minimap separator line in certain configs on certain maps
[P4] /stats to show league rank of play (investigation)

DONE- (updated 9/24/19)

[P1] [1.23.0] 64-bit
[P1] [1.23.0] Matchmaker algorithm improvements
[P1] [1.23.0] Relaxed input
[P1] [1.22.3] Replay autosave naming
[P1] [1.22.2] Whisper: Error 2:7004 failed to make initial server connection
[P1] [1.22.3] Toggle friends notifications through a command (/f on and /f off), as when it’s only in the menus you cant switch it when on battlenet.
[P1] [1.22.3] /stats disconnects (Restore the disconnect stat in /stats)

[P2] [1.23.1] Force players to actively choose their race in a game lobby
[P2] [1.23.1] Worker count in replays (investigation)
[P2] [1.23.1] Custom colors in games / large palette of player colors
[P2] [1.23.1] Expand map string table (EUD)
[P2] [1.23.0] Friend request error message
[P2] [1.22.4] Show opponent’s rank in matchmaking pre-game popup
[P2] [1.22.4] Add a “Watch Replay” button somewhere in the post-game UI
[P2] [1.22.4] Display race of each player in-game in the diplomacy popup
[P2] [1.22.3] Restore disconnect stat
[P2] [1.22.2] When logging to the server, the default account should be the one that was used last time, not the one with most games / most time played etc.
[P2] [1.22.2] Play sound when someone joins/leaves lobby
[P2] [1.22.3] Friend notifications should not be displayed when DND
[P2] [1.22.3] /dnd should provide some feedback in chat as to what the state is/has been set to
[P2] [1.22.3] /f o should be an alias of /f lo


[P3] Observer desyncs
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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
November 29 2019 12:17 GMT
#79
That was a really solid game.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
November 29 2019 12:17 GMT
#80
if this wasnt light i would be raging about TvP on Eddy, but fuck it. we in it Boys!
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States649 Posts
November 29 2019 12:18 GMT
#81
Light is a beast!
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
November 29 2019 12:19 GMT
#82
I was super happy to see Light even make a finals finally since he's been one of my favorite players for about 11 years at this point, but I thought he would just get destroyed.

I don't know if he'll win, but he's not getting destroyed.
Liquipedia
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 29 2019 12:20 GMT
#83
Light played an amazing game.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
November 29 2019 12:20 GMT
#84
they both look very evenly matched. hope Light wins this,
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
November 29 2019 12:23 GMT
#85
I can't believe how light is actually going toe to toe with rain.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
November 29 2019 12:24 GMT
#86
On November 29 2019 21:19 Elyvilon wrote:
I was super happy to see Light even make a finals finally since he's been one of my favorite players for about 11 years at this point, but I thought he would just get destroyed.

I don't know if he'll win, but he's not getting destroyed.


honestly after years of watching him play meme tier TvP(look at game 1) its amazing to see him get here now.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
November 29 2019 12:24 GMT
#87
when there is no FlaSh, finals are actually competitive… XD
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
November 29 2019 12:25 GMT
#88
On November 29 2019 21:24 XenOsky wrote:
when there is no FlaSh, finals are actually competitive… XD


I dunno, I mean ASL6 finals were literally the most competitive games of this era and flash lost that.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
November 29 2019 12:27 GMT
#89
On November 29 2019 21:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2019 21:19 Elyvilon wrote:
I was super happy to see Light even make a finals finally since he's been one of my favorite players for about 11 years at this point, but I thought he would just get destroyed.

I don't know if he'll win, but he's not getting destroyed.


honestly after years of watching him play meme tier TvP(look at game 1) its amazing to see him get here now.

I don't think he even played that badly game 1, he was just half a step behind at all times from the opening. The no turrets was really strange but other than that I thought he played fine.

Also this push oh my god Light
Liquipedia
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
November 29 2019 12:29 GMT
#90
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 29 2019 12:29 GMT
#91
2 mines vs. 2 goons!!! GOGOGO

LIGHT get that championship!!!
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
November 29 2019 12:32 GMT
#92
light is playing rain like a fiddle right now
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
November 29 2019 12:32 GMT
#93
Light is both better at TvP that I thought he is and is so well prepared, this is incredible. I really thought it was going to be a stomp last night.
Liquipedia
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
November 29 2019 12:33 GMT
#94
FUUUUUUUUCK YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA JUST ONE MORE!
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 29 2019 12:33 GMT
#95
Wow light saw an opportunity and seized it so well!
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
November 29 2019 12:33 GMT
#96
Light actually with a really solid TvP
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
November 29 2019 12:33 GMT
#97
what am I even seeing, Light is actually ahead
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
November 29 2019 12:35 GMT
#98
light is truly playing like a madman, this is the most flawless i've ever seen him play vs protoss and he's playing rain
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
November 29 2019 12:35 GMT
#99
[image loading]

thanks to HaN for lighting correction on this
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
November 29 2019 12:35 GMT
#100
what is the next map¿
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 29 2019 12:36 GMT
#101
On November 29 2019 21:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
[image loading]

thanks to HaN for lighting correction on this

Drawing artosis is way more handsome than actual artosis.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
November 29 2019 12:39 GMT
#102
On November 29 2019 21:36 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2019 21:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
[image loading]

thanks to HaN for lighting correction on this

Drawing artosis is way more handsome than actual artosis.


I spent 5 minutes wondering when did schamtoo cast KSL, because that is not Rapid, that is schamtoo.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
November 29 2019 13:01 GMT
#103
fuck dts
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 29 2019 13:01 GMT
#104
Damn, one turret in his main away from ending this KSL.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
November 29 2019 13:02 GMT
#105
amazing game so far.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
November 29 2019 13:04 GMT
#106
How is rain still in the game 8(
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
November 29 2019 13:07 GMT
#107
is this really Light¿
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
November 29 2019 13:09 GMT
#108
Rain doing his stupid throw head against brick wall PvT again. I love it.

Bye bye
The original Bogus fan.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 29 2019 13:10 GMT
#109
Wow, I thought that would be the fight that give rain a definite edge with 2 tanks and a few vultures but light reacted so quickly to defend it!
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
November 29 2019 13:10 GMT
#110
3-2 done holly this game is tense man…
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-29 13:12:08
November 29 2019 13:11 GMT
#111
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

MY MAN !!! FINALLY A CHAMPION!

IM SO HAPPY

CONGRATULATIONS LIGHT!
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
November 29 2019 13:11 GMT
#112
Rain seems rattled? I haven't seen anybody do this to him except for that time Jaedong 4-0'd him in one of the earlier KSLs
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
November 29 2019 13:12 GMT
#113
LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
November 29 2019 13:12 GMT
#114
100% finals win rate

what a god
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
November 29 2019 13:12 GMT
#115
FINALLY EXPOSED

Thank you Light, thank you thank you thank you thank you
The original Bogus fan.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-29 13:12:26
November 29 2019 13:12 GMT
#116
GG! Well done Light.
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
November 29 2019 13:12 GMT
#117
WOW!

amazing play by light, really incredible
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
November 29 2019 13:12 GMT
#118
ah, invoking the power of satan works, good to know
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 29 2019 13:12 GMT
#119
Best finals since ???

"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
November 29 2019 13:12 GMT
#120
On November 29 2019 22:11 Wonk wrote:
Rain seems rattled? I haven't seen anybody do this to him except for that time Jaedong 4-0'd him in one of the earlier KSLs

Uhh no, his lategame PvT pretty much always looks like this LOL
The original Bogus fan.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 29 2019 13:12 GMT
#121
LIGHT MYBOI 4-1 VS RAIN WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTT
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
November 29 2019 13:12 GMT
#122
I'm so happy, man. And this was a great series tbh.
WriterReV hwaiting!
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 29 2019 13:13 GMT
#123
lol artosis wants to see those protoss tears.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
November 29 2019 13:13 GMT
#124
trophy ugly, previous trophy better
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3022 Posts
November 29 2019 13:13 GMT
#125
Light doesn't know what to do with the trophy, he's never won one lmao
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 29 2019 13:15 GMT
#126
HOLY SHIT HE DID IT
FINALLY
13 FUCKING YEARS
POGGERS
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
November 29 2019 13:15 GMT
#127
LEE
JAE
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Liquipedia
Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States649 Posts
November 29 2019 13:16 GMT
#128
I was expecting a 4-1 in Rain's favour, so glad Light took a dump on my expectations. Congrats Light!!!
IntoTheStorm
Profile Blog Joined October 2016
116 Posts
November 29 2019 13:16 GMT
#129
Aw, Light, what a player - becomes Flash's student, learns and makes himself into a TvP expert, smashes Rain convincingly in a KSL final. Amazing achievement, well deserved for him,
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
November 29 2019 13:17 GMT
#130
So happy for Light
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
November 29 2019 13:17 GMT
#131
On November 29 2019 22:15 konadora wrote:
HOLY SHIT HE DID IT
FINALLY
13 FUCKING YEARS


no bro, thats a sad way of looking at it

100% finals win rate.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
November 29 2019 13:18 GMT
#132
very happy for Light. He played really well that series.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
November 29 2019 13:19 GMT
#133
On November 29 2019 22:15 konadora wrote:
HOLY SHIT HE DID IT
FINALLY
13 FUCKING YEARS


+ years of practicing as an amateur, which people always forget!
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
November 29 2019 13:20 GMT
#134
Artosis LOL
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 29 2019 13:21 GMT
#135
On November 29 2019 22:16 IntoTheStorm wrote:
Aw, Light, what a player - becomes Flash's student, learns and makes himself into a TvP expert, smashes Rain convincingly in a KSL final. Amazing achievement, well deserved for him,

Flash's destroyed wrists were no longer worthy of hosting the gosu spirit, it had to find a new vessel which it found with light.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 29 2019 13:22 GMT
#136
finally found the light at the end of tunnel
POGGERS
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
November 29 2019 13:23 GMT
#137
if you told me 10 years ago, Light would be a major starleague champion before sea I'd laugh
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 29 2019 13:23 GMT
#138
On November 29 2019 22:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2019 22:15 konadora wrote:
HOLY SHIT HE DID IT
FINALLY
13 FUCKING YEARS


no bro, thats a sad way of looking at it

100% finals win rate.

confirmed new bonjwa
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 29 2019 13:23 GMT
#139
On November 29 2019 22:23 BLinD-RawR wrote:
if you told me 10 years ago, Light would be a major starleague champion before sea I'd laugh

man i totally forgot about sea

now im a bit sad
POGGERS
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
November 29 2019 13:24 GMT
#140
On November 29 2019 18:14 meegrean wrote:
Light 4-0

Sure, Rain is good but Light can lose his main command center and still win.

I was right!
Brood War loyalist
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
November 29 2019 13:25 GMT
#141
Poll: Recommend Game 1?

Yes (16)
 
76%

If you have time (5)
 
24%

No (0)
 
0%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Game 2?

Yes (18)
 
90%

No (1)
 
5%

If you have time (1)
 
5%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Game 3?

Yes (17)
 
85%

No (2)
 
10%

If you have time (1)
 
5%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Game 4?

Yes (21)
 
95%

No (1)
 
5%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

22 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Game 5?

Yes (19)
 
90%

No (1)
 
5%

If you have time (1)
 
5%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Game 6?

Yes (22)
 
88%

If you have time (2)
 
8%

No (1)
 
4%

25 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 6?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 29 2019 13:26 GMT
#142
GGs Light!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-29 13:27:39
November 29 2019 13:27 GMT
#143
On November 29 2019 22:23 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2019 22:23 BLinD-RawR wrote:
if you told me 10 years ago, Light would be a major starleague champion before sea I'd laugh

man i totally forgot about sea

now im a bit sad


he'll be back from the army soon
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
November 29 2019 13:28 GMT
#144


StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
November 29 2019 13:28 GMT
#145
Congratulations to Light! Well played!
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 29 2019 13:29 GMT
#146
Another brand new champion, that's great.
Well played Light, you deserved it!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 29 2019 13:30 GMT
#147
On November 29 2019 22:28 XenOsky wrote:
https://clips.twitch.tv/OutstandingLazyChipmunkBCouch


really well said

starcraft is THE esport and always will be
POGGERS
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
November 29 2019 13:33 GMT
#148
Congratz Light! You are no longer just another random Terran. Looking forward to the next KSL!
Brood War loyalist
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
November 29 2019 14:14 GMT
#149
On November 29 2019 22:30 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2019 22:28 XenOsky wrote:
https://clips.twitch.tv/OutstandingLazyChipmunkBCouch


really well said

starcraft is THE esport and always will be

True, true.. I agree.

Amazing finals! was NOT expecting that result at all.. guess Rain PvT just suxxx major ass and Light played really well, too.

GGs and big congratz to the winner

BW forever <3
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
November 29 2019 14:17 GMT
#150
Congratulations to Light. Well done.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
November 29 2019 14:44 GMT
#151
i cant believe light won. congrats to him.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3366 Posts
November 29 2019 14:54 GMT
#152
Finally light won something! Congratulations!
Horang2 fan
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
937 Posts
November 29 2019 16:00 GMT
#153
Watched live, major congrats to Light.

I remember watching a ton of his VODs and always wondering how he never won anything during the KeSPA era of SC BW.
:3
[AS]Rattus
Profile Joined March 2017
427 Posts
November 29 2019 17:08 GMT
#154
nice games. glad Light won.
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
November 29 2019 17:15 GMT
#155
On November 29 2019 22:28 XenOsky wrote:
Artosis clip



So true.
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
Jaeyun
Profile Joined June 2017
United States202 Posts
November 29 2019 17:54 GMT
#156
Sad to see Rain lose but man Light looked like an absolute monster. Everything was on point and he 100% deserved this victory. I was honestly pretty disappointed to hear no Last/Bisu entering the tourny, but this KSL was actually my 2nd most favorite league to watch (behind ASL6). We may have missed a few of the top players, but the games starting from RO8 were really fun to watch.
www.twitch.tv/jaeyun
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
November 29 2019 17:58 GMT
#157
omg.
Happy for my boy.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
November 29 2019 18:21 GMT
#158
Great macro games <3
KTY
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
November 29 2019 18:23 GMT
#159
That was a really fun finals to watch. Congrats to Light!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-29 18:49:05
November 29 2019 18:45 GMT
#160
This was probably the best finals since Effort v Flash and best PvT finals since ???? Jangbi's wins?


Man, I'm so happy for light he has been my favourite from MBC and then the bright shining ace of Woongjin, always super sloppy and he finally overcame his weakness. Games 3, 4, 5, 6 were all pretty amazing, my jaw dropped couple of times I thought it's Fantasy not Light playing.
The heart's eternal vow
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
November 29 2019 19:30 GMT
#161
Congratulations Light! So deserved!
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1594 Posts
November 29 2019 19:37 GMT
#162
Light deserved this one!! Great games. I'm so glad I didn't bet on Rain even though I thought he was a big favorite.
nikolaus8844
Profile Joined March 2019
104 Posts
November 29 2019 19:38 GMT
#163
It really made me so happy to see LIght that composed and confident. He really does did have the necessary skill-set for a long time, but maybe never believed in himself enough.. Just wonderful !!!
And all the games were interesting and edgy... best finals I've seen in a long long time
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51450 Posts
November 29 2019 20:20 GMT
#164
woah they have a carbot bunker plush too
Commentator
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
November 29 2019 21:20 GMT
#165
what a great final!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so good!!!!!!!!
Moderatorhttps://soundcloud.com/castlesmusic/sets/oak
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-29 22:13:53
November 29 2019 22:13 GMT
#166
That was a very satisfying finals match.
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
November 29 2019 22:14 GMT
#167
Light is a last Starleague champion of the 2010s.

Imagine saying that 10 years ago during the peak of Flash vs JD, lol
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1074 Posts
November 29 2019 23:54 GMT
#168
Good finals...
His tvp has come a long way compared to the kespa days..
Would have wanted the wraiths to make more of an impact though.
BW forever!
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
November 30 2019 00:17 GMT
#169
Loved the overwatch and sylphid games, Light flexing with his macro. Great finals.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 30 2019 00:51 GMT
#170
HOLY SHIT WHAAAAT
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
November 30 2019 04:38 GMT
#171
So happy for Light! Ive always considered him in the top 3 TvZ since 2007-2008, but wasnt ever impressed by his TvP.. but the last time I saw him play TvP a few months ago, I was legit surprised and told to myself damn Light fixed his TvP! So I had faith for him in this final, he definitely delivered.
GGs!
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jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
November 30 2019 05:14 GMT
#172
Light, the Hard Work Terran
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-30 07:32:49
November 30 2019 07:30 GMT
#173
Holy crap light played amazing all series.

Is rains macro pvt weak? Feel like rain should be a little disappointed given how high his level can be. His opponent wanted it though, really wanted it. You could see.

Satisfying series. Best final of the year.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
November 30 2019 08:29 GMT
#174
Guess spon matches mean a thing. Awesome and well deserved win by Light! Rain will think twice before trash talking such a veteran.
sunbeams are never made like me...
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
November 30 2019 09:25 GMT
#175
Haha Rain, thats what you get for mass gaming MMOs and Mobas. Light has redeemed himself from his dlwogh status, second best terran atm for sure.

Game 4 was so impressive. It was some Kespa-era quality that Light showed, never truly overextending and always having macroadvantage.

it's not just a music it's something else
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
November 30 2019 10:02 GMT
#176
I feel bad that my SKT boy didn't win, but atleast he lost to the very well deserving Light.

Light has been a top, maybe even top 5 terran for the last 13 years and I'm so happy he got a victory!
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 30 2019 11:31 GMT
#177
On November 30 2019 17:29 outscar wrote:
Guess spon matches mean a thing. Awesome and well deserved win by Light! Rain will think twice before trash talking such a veteran.

Really? How did Rain trashtalk Light?
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TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
November 30 2019 11:43 GMT
#178
On November 30 2019 20:31 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2019 17:29 outscar wrote:
Guess spon matches mean a thing. Awesome and well deserved win by Light! Rain will think twice before trash talking such a veteran.

Really? How did Rain trashtalk Light?

Something along the lines of "I'll send you crying to your mommy", iirc.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
November 30 2019 12:31 GMT
#179
On November 30 2019 20:31 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2019 17:29 outscar wrote:
Guess spon matches mean a thing. Awesome and well deserved win by Light! Rain will think twice before trash talking such a veteran.

Really? How did Rain trashtalk Light?


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sunbeams are never made like me...
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-30 12:47:54
November 30 2019 12:47 GMT
#180
Maybe Rain was so sure to win all Matchpoint, Overwatch and Blockchain and was not prepared to play full bo7. Games 5 and 6 felt sloppy from Rains part compared how well he played earlier in tournament or comparing his se is against Last in ASL.
it's not just a music it's something else
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
November 30 2019 13:05 GMT
#181
Light FINALLY got the victory he deserved, CONGRATS!!
Mine gas, build tanks.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
November 30 2019 13:24 GMT
#182
Really pleased for Light I was suporting him but some how ended up feeling dissapointed in Rain. Pretty good series but it felt like Rain caved a bit in that last game. Anyway great to take a lazy Saturday and catch up with the Starcraft.

KSL really need to consider the future format of this tournment. Too many games in too shorter period for me.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8038 Posts
November 30 2019 14:00 GMT
#183
Guys, did someone LB on Light? I lost 8 points on this final
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
November 30 2019 14:42 GMT
#184
On November 30 2019 23:00 prosatan wrote:
Guys, did someone LB on Light? I lost 8 points on this final

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more people than I thought had faith in light
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8038 Posts
November 30 2019 15:01 GMT
#185
Whoaa! Thanks Blind-Rawr
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Shinrei
Profile Joined February 2007
United States237 Posts
November 30 2019 15:06 GMT
#186
I was a galaxy brain Light believer. The man did it.
=^.^=
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway691 Posts
November 30 2019 18:19 GMT
#187
Such an amazing finale Soooo happy for Light :D
Very good cast as usual by Nick&Dan! Thanks alot :D Love Artosis "YES HE KILLED A CARRIER" moment..he really lived that game lol

Ok so yeah Brood War really is the best game ever made, nothing else can interest me the way bw does.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
November 30 2019 20:31 GMT
#188
All good games were great. So happy for Light!
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
November 30 2019 20:57 GMT
#189
An amazing series. Very well played by Light.
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
November 30 2019 23:10 GMT
#190
On November 30 2019 21:31 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2019 20:31 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On November 30 2019 17:29 outscar wrote:
Guess spon matches mean a thing. Awesome and well deserved win by Light! Rain will think twice before trash talking such a veteran.

Really? How did Rain trashtalk Light?



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For real, that is some quality pre-game shit talk.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8100 Posts
December 01 2019 01:31 GMT
#191
Late to post but super happy for Light. He's been playing fantastically lately and kept his cool in the finals and finally won himself a trophy after so many long hard years of playing. Congrats Light! Glad the finals were generally pretty fun and interesting games too
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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1688 Posts
December 01 2019 05:03 GMT
#192
Cant believe Light won, wanted Rain to win, Rain is still the 2nd best player in the world
easily
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Lakaboss
Profile Joined December 2019
China4 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-01 05:12:28
December 01 2019 05:11 GMT
#193
Never really liked Light that much but have to say he won my sympathies here. A great story arc with Rain making himself the villain with all that thrash talk and boasting how he didn't even train much.They both made this one of the more memorable finals.

and how cute was this moment from the semis?

imgur.com
geod
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Vietnam450 Posts
December 01 2019 06:20 GMT
#194
Congrat Light!!! After so many years finally you did it.
And on top of that you played wonderfully!!!!!!
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
December 01 2019 06:33 GMT
#195
Just watched the finals, wow so happy for Light and really impressed at the same time. His decision making and macro were really on point the whole series. He was always known for his weak TvP but I don't think we can say that anymore.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
December 01 2019 07:58 GMT
#196
On December 01 2019 14:03 ShowTheLights wrote:
Cant believe Light won, wanted Rain to win, Rain is still the 2nd best player in the world
easily

He's not even top10 in recent spons, get outta here.
The original Bogus fan.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
December 01 2019 10:50 GMT
#197
On December 01 2019 16:58 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2019 14:03 ShowTheLights wrote:
Cant believe Light won, wanted Rain to win, Rain is still the 2nd best player in the world
easily

He's not even top10 in recent spons, get outta here.


But that's mostly because he's a full-time LoL player now.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
December 01 2019 12:40 GMT
#198
On November 30 2019 23:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2019 23:00 prosatan wrote:
Guys, did someone LB on Light? I lost 8 points on this final

[image loading]

more people than I thought had faith in light

I purely voted for Rain because if I vote for the player I am cheering for then they lose.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
December 01 2019 13:10 GMT
#199
On December 01 2019 21:40 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2019 23:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 30 2019 23:00 prosatan wrote:
Guys, did someone LB on Light? I lost 8 points on this final

[image loading]

more people than I thought had faith in light

I purely voted for Rain because if I vote for the player I am cheering for then they lose.

Anyone else I wouldn't believe but you do have some horrible track record on this.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
December 01 2019 20:49 GMT
#200
Outstanding play, great composure, I'm so happy for Light :-)
Very exciting series, and Rain did not make it easy.
May the BeSt man win.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 04 2019 01:57 GMT
#201
Wow, this was an amazing finals and was beyond my wildest expectations. To see Light actually play TvP quite competently was an unforgettable experience haha. But seriously, if anyone told me that Light would beat Rain 4-2 in a finals no less, I would've thought it was a joke. That eddy game felt like it was Flash playing with the way he expanded behind his pushes, but kept engaging and pulling back in time. Even his first game on MP wasn't too bad aside from the turret placement (think he had like 1 outside the range of the drop).

The FS game where he pounched on the opportunity presented to his by Rain's micro and that goon getting stuck briefly was as impressive and helped change the game dramatically. Has Light's TvP gotten that much better? In the last game, he was 2/2 to Rain's 1/0/0 then 3/2 to 2/0/0 and had such a nice strat too with the proxy fac. If it wasn't for that dt drop, he would've crushed Rain. Thankfully, Rain tried to plow his units at the third twice before he learned that he shouldn't haha, but Light's gameplay overall this series, aside from minor blunders, was superb and commendable.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
December 04 2019 03:34 GMT
#202
no article on front page. these are dark times
get rich or die mining
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25321 Posts
December 04 2019 14:02 GMT
#203
On December 04 2019 12:34 Alejandrisha wrote:
no article on front page. these are dark times

It did help me avoid getting spoiled as I’d forgotten this was on, which was nice of the site to do although I’m unsure how they knew this was the case.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
December 05 2019 03:58 GMT
#204
I thought they usually wait a bit to not spoil.
GANDHISAUCE
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
December 05 2019 06:26 GMT
#205
On December 05 2019 12:58 De4ngus wrote:
I thought they usually wait a bit to not spoil.


tis a good excuse

On December 04 2019 23:02 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2019 12:34 Alejandrisha wrote:
no article on front page. these are dark times

It did help me avoid getting spoiled as I’d forgotten this was on, which was nice of the site to do although I’m unsure how they knew this was the case.

tru tru
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
December 07 2019 04:18 GMT
#206
On December 05 2019 15:26 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2019 12:58 De4ngus wrote:
I thought they usually wait a bit to not spoil.


tis a good excuse

Show nested quote +
On December 04 2019 23:02 Wombat_NI wrote:
On December 04 2019 12:34 Alejandrisha wrote:
no article on front page. these are dark times

It did help me avoid getting spoiled as I’d forgotten this was on, which was nice of the site to do although I’m unsure how they knew this was the case.

tru tru


its coming.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Aminus
Profile Joined October 2018
Bulgaria35 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-07 01:36:45
January 07 2020 01:30 GMT
#207
Just watched the final. Apart from light playing amazing you have game 5 and thats how a bug can decide a finals in a game called itself remastered version... pfff what a joke. Didnt had any idea to comment or whine but seriously, what is this shit? its been 22 years since the game is on and its a "remastered" version they cannot fix bugs like this? how about reaver bug close to some ramps where it dont want to shoot? Remember a game by mini that was decided by this bug. Why these bugs are not fixed, and why all of them are on the weakest race, or should i say the least versatile and most punishing race when it comes to buildorder fails? does they dont know a reaver is cruicial, and goon in 1 on 1 situation like in game 5 is cruicial and no bugs are allowed? what a jerk devs.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 07 2020 09:46 GMT
#208
Just fix the bugs lol how hard can it be u lazy developers

Am I right, fellow game specialists???
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
JoinTheRain
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
Bulgaria408 Posts
January 07 2020 19:54 GMT
#209
On January 07 2020 10:30 Aminus wrote:
its been 22 years since the game is on and its a "remastered" version they cannot fix bugs like this?


Of course they can fix bugs like those of the dragoon and the reaver. But by now to the common viewer the things with how a unit behaves do not seem like bugs but more like parts of the gameplay that require mastering and skill, they add to the overall excitement. I think so at least.
Look at the flying units stacking - it is a bug, in was not intended but someone discovered it along the way and it is mastered and understood to unrivaled depths. Should they fix that as well? I guess you would say no, would you? Without it how are modern zergs supposed to win a ZvT? The developers claimed no gameplay related changes and so far they are true to their word.
Also, Rain himself has not (to my knowledge at least, tell me if I am wrong for I do not want to be willingly deprived of truth) stated he is mad about his loss due to this bug.
But why would you advocate changing the game on the grounds that it is 22 year old game, what does that age have to do with anything?
Are you the only one who is indignant of this bug? Hardly so, I am sure. But why are you so vocal about it, I dare not suppose. Can't you find the will to just enjoy the game as it is? If you can't - feel free to complain, see what good this will do to you.
The subject-matter of the art of living is each person's own life.
Aminus
Profile Joined October 2018
Bulgaria35 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-08 05:16:48
January 08 2020 04:38 GMT
#210
cant take this ^ post seriously, sorry.

Il just say some things about bugs for anyone interested. Bugs were appearing so the game got patched and these bugs removed. With new patches sometimes a new bug was appearing which was removed at the next patch. Thats why the game got patched after balance patches was no more. 1.16.1 version introduced dragoon stuck bug which wasnt fixed since blizzard sort of abandoned the game support by that time. By the way of logic that bug shouldve been gone in the so called "remastered" version. Blizzard didnt removed the bug because their policy is clearly not about quality. Remastered shouldve smoothen up the gameplay as much as possible. They decided to not touch game, because it will change the gameplay possibly leading to imbalance or something in pro level, which was not supported by any tests or facts and which is by my oppinion very debatable. Leaving bugs that shouldve been removed decide pro games seems like more solid decision by their logic. During that time there were many broodwar purists who were crying literally this - " do not touch our perfect game, we dont care what can be improved and we dont care for the new players" regarding to unit pathfinding and improved interface or anything that can be changed, reminded me of caveman refused to go out of their way of existence, but thats a different story. That gave blizzard green light for their unpolished work. Since no evedience or tests were made with improved unit ai or modernised interface about balance or imbalance, which wouldve bring more players to the game and definitely raise the quality of spectators experience i cannot believe a thing about pro level bullshit or anything. Put simply they told us the story of classic and perfect game and got a lazy reskin without removing the cruical dragoon bug from 1.16.1. What happened after remastered release? Ugly reskin that soon got replaced by which we now see as the standart skin for KSL and ASL. Lots of lag and ladder bug issues, on which they were working time after release.
So Blizzard released unfinished game and called it remastered version.
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