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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2107 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-14 14:02:42
November 14 2019 14:02 GMT
#1

Korea StarCraft League Season 4


Friday, Nov 15 6:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)2019 Korea StarCraft League Season 4


Casters & Hosts


Tasteless | Artosis | RAPiD | NoRegreT


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Korean Afreeca Stream
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(P)Mini              (Z)ZerO
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(Z)SOMA              (P)BeSt
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(T)Light              (T)Mind






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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1132 Posts
November 14 2019 14:11 GMT
#2
This is getting absurd. 4 BO7 in a single day :O
Anyways,
ZerO 4 : 1 Mini
Rain 4 : 1 SnOW
SoMa 3 : 4 BeSt (yeah i know, i didnt learn anything)
Light 4 : 2 Mind
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19384 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-14 14:14:17
November 14 2019 14:14 GMT
#3
On November 14 2019 23:11 TornadoSteve wrote:
This is getting absurd. 4 BO7 in a single day :O
Anyways,
ZerO 4 : 1 Mini
Rain 4 : 1 SnOW
SoMa 3 : 4 BeSt (yeah i know, i didnt learn anything)
Light 4 : 2 Mind

And that the games are played immediately after day 5.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
November 14 2019 14:31 GMT
#4
cool to have a "tight schedule" dreamhack esque tourney for BW once. though the "rest" advantage for the group winners are significant. and on paper all the group winners have a signifcant matchup/ability advantage too, so i predict lopsided results in favor for all of them.(soma to thrash best too)
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland617 Posts
November 14 2019 14:31 GMT
#5
It's BO5 in quarterfinals.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1132 Posts
November 14 2019 14:34 GMT
#6
My bad, thats correct. Its BO3
So :
ZerO 3 : 1 Mini
Rain 3 : 0 SnOW
SoMa 2 : 3 BeSt
Light 3 : 0 Mind
seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
November 14 2019 14:35 GMT
#7
4 bo5's is what they've been doing per day. Anyone know what the rush is? They're finishing the whole tour in <1 month.

NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3165 Posts
November 14 2019 15:03 GMT
#8
I'll give my predictions for tomorrow. I'm still amazed the quarter finals are already here.

Mini 3-1 Zero
Rain 3-0 Snow
Soma 3-2 Best
Light 3-1 Mind
Artosis loves Starcraft
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
November 14 2019 15:30 GMT
#9
Mini 3-1 Zero
Rain 1-3 Snow
Soma 3-0 Best
Light 3-2 Mind
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
November 14 2019 15:36 GMT
#10
zero 3-1 mini. I love mini but he has extremely high variance. Zero is just a monster right now in zvp. Literally looks unstoppable (more so than zergs usually do :D

Rain 3-1 Snow. Rain has never lost a pvp series and I don't see why he would. BUT, snow is on a roll lately. consistently been #2 in sponsored games elo behind flash for a while now. meanwhile Rain has being played league and WoW, but it hasn't seemed to affect his offline play.

Soma 3-2 Best. Ask me last week and I pick best. This is both their worst mu, but soma has been doing well in zvp finally.

Light 3-1 Mind. Don't know Mind's current state but he's better than ForGG so he'll at least put up a fight. Light ofc has looked great since he came back from his brief protoss flirtation.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
November 14 2019 16:29 GMT
#11
ZerO 3-2 Mini
Rain 3-0(1) Snow
Best 3-2 Soma
Light 3-1 Mind
Faker is the GOAT!
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
November 14 2019 18:22 GMT
#12
Zero 3-0 Mini
Rain 3-1 Snow
Soma 3-2 Best
Light 3--1 Mind
it's not just a music it's something else
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8176 Posts
November 14 2019 21:18 GMT
#13
Looks like a fun Ro8, too bad they are being played so quickly though. I don't expect the quality of play to be that high if half of the players only have a day to prepare for their match :\
Free Palestine
v1p3r52
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand182 Posts
November 14 2019 22:28 GMT
#14
round of 8 already. pretty quick tourny
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 15 2019 00:54 GMT
#15
I like Rain but literally everyone else winning would make for a better story; apart of him and Mind(who would go for ASL+KSL), none of the players in this ro8 has ever won one offline Starleague. Many of them have at least a silver(or multiple ones)!
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
November 15 2019 02:34 GMT
#16
On November 15 2019 09:54 Xain0n wrote:
I like Rain but literally everyone else winning would make for a better story; apart of him and Mind(who would go for ASL+KSL), none of the players in this ro8 has ever won one offline Starleague. Many of them have at least a silver(or multiple ones)!

Absolutely agree. Mini and Snow have both been runner up twice (and Snow's defeated the defending champions I think three different times now), I'd love to see either of them. Light and Mind, both good Terran players but never the best, the new/returning zergs, etc.
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
November 15 2019 02:55 GMT
#17
I didn't watch sacsri vs best yesterday, but the score was 3-2. I surely know that soma's ZvP is significantly better than most of the zerg so I have a strong feeling that soma will take down best 3-0 or 3-1.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3846 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-15 03:20:42
November 15 2019 03:18 GMT
#18
Yeh I have a good feeling about Soma today.

That being said, Sacsri yesterday showed that his mid-late zerg gameplay is really impressive. It's been a while since I've seen zerg macro that well in an offline game, excited to see how he looks next season.

I'll go for Zero, Rain, Soma, Light
: o )
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8176 Posts
November 15 2019 05:45 GMT
#19
Soma never got a pro-gaming license or was part of a team house, right? So him making the Ro8 in a starleague makes him the first amateur to do so since like, ever right? Unless you count the SSL maybe?
Free Palestine
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3165 Posts
November 15 2019 06:00 GMT
#20
The screen says match 4. Are they starting with Light vs Mind first? I thought irt would be Mini vs ZerO
Artosis loves Starcraft
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
November 15 2019 06:24 GMT
#21
Where can I watch this.

I clicked both links in opening posts but it says they arent streaming right now?
TL+ Member
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3165 Posts
November 15 2019 06:25 GMT
#22
https://www.twitch.tv/starcraft

Official starcraft twitch page.
Artosis loves Starcraft
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
November 15 2019 06:42 GMT
#23
On November 15 2019 15:25 NoS-Craig wrote:
https://www.twitch.tv/starcraft

Official starcraft twitch page.



thanks a lot man
TL+ Member
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 15 2019 08:36 GMT
#24
OP looks much better than the ASL, keep em up
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
November 15 2019 09:25 GMT
#25
What it’s the R08 already? And they are all playing today?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 15 2019 09:28 GMT
#26
On November 15 2019 18:25 Dante08 wrote:
What it’s the R08 already? And they are all playing today?

yes
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
November 15 2019 09:31 GMT
#27
now if only soma had kespa training like the players he just demolished...
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
November 15 2019 09:35 GMT
#28
SOMA is putting forth a tremendous EffOrt. He's showing a Killer instinct and an ability to remain Calm in the Action. I don't know Where he came from but this could be his time to Shine. Considering there's only been 1 zerg champion of all the ASLs and KSLs could this new herO be the sAviOr of the zerg race? Larva.
Amanebak
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Czech Republic528 Posts
November 15 2019 09:46 GMT
#29
On November 15 2019 18:35 BlackJack wrote:
SOMA is putting forth a tremendous EffOrt. He's showing a Killer instinct and an ability to remain Calm in the Action. I don't know Where he came from but this could be his time to Shine. Considering there's only been 1 zerg champion of all the ASLs and KSLs could this new herO be the sAviOr of the zerg race? Larva.

lol at the Larva appendix. Zer0 is missing there, though.
BW
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 15 2019 13:08 GMT
#30
Really nice HT snipes by the mutas just before the big battle there.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
November 15 2019 13:09 GMT
#31
Mini vs zero is a great series.

Zero waited for the perfect opportunity (when the toss army crossed this high ground middle base) to clear all mini's HT with his hidden muta control group.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5899 Posts
November 15 2019 13:10 GMT
#32
That ovie snipe was typically something you'd see in a pimpest play.
FBH #1!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3165 Posts
November 15 2019 13:52 GMT
#33
God dammit I was on a good LB run as well. I really thought Mini would win tonight. 3/4 picks for me tonight.
Artosis loves Starcraft
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
November 15 2019 13:53 GMT
#34
Zero was awesome today and mini was unlucky to face him because his play was also top notch, I feel he would have qualified against anyone else today.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 15 2019 13:54 GMT
#35
On November 15 2019 22:52 NoS-Craig wrote:
God dammit I was on a good LB run as well. I really thought Mini would win tonight. 3/4 picks for me tonight.


I did the same but I am actually happy that Zero made it since he has a better chance against Rain than Mini does.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1132 Posts
November 15 2019 13:57 GMT
#36
RainerO
Light:SoMa

wow
we get a good RO4 for sure
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
November 15 2019 13:59 GMT
#37
zero god
The Bomber boy
repomaniak
Profile Joined January 2009
Poland324 Posts
November 15 2019 14:20 GMT
#38
KSL best cheer


and more clips
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chillzzz
Profile Joined August 2018
30 Posts
November 15 2019 14:46 GMT
#39
Some high quality matches tonight, Mini vs Zero was very impressive.
lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-15 17:38:11
November 15 2019 16:06 GMT
#40
Holy shit the pacing of this tournament is a mess.

I was just ready to watch the final matches of Round of 16 and get hyped for the Round of 8... so Round of 8 is already over by the next day?

It's probably a budget thing where doing all matches the same day is more cost efficient, but it's very difficult to get excited and pumped about the KSL when everything feels so rushed.
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1605 Posts
November 15 2019 17:27 GMT
#41
Missed it 8(
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19384 Posts
November 15 2019 18:45 GMT
#42
This was a wonderful round of 8. Both players and casters were brilliant. This is a solid round of 4 were I think anyone can win. It's hard to say Rain is a clear favorite with two zergs in it still.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3694 Posts
November 15 2019 19:26 GMT
#43
Rain will win his semi final since it’s PvZ. And the final will either be PvZ again, i.e. Rain wins automatically, or PvT. And I can’t imagine Light taking a series over Rain either. So basically Rain already won the finals.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19384 Posts
November 15 2019 20:01 GMT
#44
On November 16 2019 04:26 superjoppe wrote:
Rain will win his semi final since it’s PvZ. And the final will either be PvZ again, i.e. Rain wins automatically, or PvT. And I can’t imagine Light taking a series over Rain either. So basically Rain already won the finals.

Rain has very questionable PvZ against two solid ZvP players. I think he has the hardest road if it is two zergs. Light has the best chance of anyone by facing two zergs.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8176 Posts
November 15 2019 21:18 GMT
#45
Damn some good series from the Ro8, mini vs zero was insane, really too bad mini couldn't be in the semis.Semis look great though and as long as it isn't zvz the finals should be sick as well.
Free Palestine
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-15 23:18:08
November 15 2019 23:13 GMT
#46
On November 16 2019 05:01 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2019 04:26 superjoppe wrote:
Rain will win his semi final since it’s PvZ. And the final will either be PvZ again, i.e. Rain wins automatically, or PvT. And I can’t imagine Light taking a series over Rain either. So basically Rain already won the finals.

Rain has very questionable PvZ against two solid ZvP players. I think he has the hardest road if it is two zergs. Light has the best chance of anyone by facing two zergs.

Yeah, if Mini couldn't win vs. Zero I really doubt Rain can. While I'm sad to see Mini go, I'm glad Rain can't PvP his way to the trophy again.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-15 23:17:47
November 15 2019 23:13 GMT
#47
(Somehow double posted, sorry)
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
November 15 2019 23:23 GMT
#48
On November 16 2019 04:26 superjoppe wrote:
Rain will win his semi final since it’s PvZ. And the final will either be PvZ again, i.e. Rain wins automatically, or PvT. And I can’t imagine Light taking a series over Rain either. So basically Rain already won the finals.

Did you confuse Rain's PvZ for his PvP?
GANDHISAUCE
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 16 2019 02:41 GMT
#49
On November 16 2019 05:01 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2019 04:26 superjoppe wrote:
Rain will win his semi final since it’s PvZ. And the final will either be PvZ again, i.e. Rain wins automatically, or PvT. And I can’t imagine Light taking a series over Rain either. So basically Rain already won the finals.

Rain has very questionable PvZ against two solid ZvP players. I think he has the hardest road if it is two zergs. Light has the best chance of anyone by facing two zergs.


Well, I would not call Rain's PvZ "questionable"; it's most likely his weakest matchup, on the other hand.
Rain is untouchable in PvP, he has a good PvT(worse than Snow's and Best's, his sponmatches record against Light is negative as far as I know) and a very unreliable PvZ that can be either great or disappointing.

Light vs Zero is the final I would personally like to see and I'd give it decent odds to take place.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1132 Posts
November 16 2019 06:59 GMT
#50
Rain should win against ZerO, 4-2
But SoMa against Light i truly have no idea,
SoMa is on a 9 wins streak on stage, looks pretty scary
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13497 Posts
November 16 2019 11:10 GMT
#51
Rain’s PvZ is suspect vs the good zergs and Zero is very good in the matchup. I think Rain loses. Soma vs light is a tossup. Both in good form atm.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13497 Posts
November 16 2019 11:11 GMT
#52
But I’d like to see Light take this tourney. Guy has been plugging away for so long.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19384 Posts
November 16 2019 12:27 GMT
#53
On November 16 2019 11:41 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2019 05:01 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 16 2019 04:26 superjoppe wrote:
Rain will win his semi final since it’s PvZ. And the final will either be PvZ again, i.e. Rain wins automatically, or PvT. And I can’t imagine Light taking a series over Rain either. So basically Rain already won the finals.

Rain has very questionable PvZ against two solid ZvP players. I think he has the hardest road if it is two zergs. Light has the best chance of anyone by facing two zergs.


Well, I would not call Rain's PvZ "questionable"; it's most likely his weakest matchup, on the other hand.
Rain is untouchable in PvP, he has a good PvT(worse than Snow's and Best's, his sponmatches record against Light is negative as far as I know) and a very unreliable PvZ that can be either great or disappointing.

Light vs Zero is the final I would personally like to see and I'd give it decent odds to take place.

Questionable literally means " a very unreliable PvZ that can be either great or disappointing" to me lol. So we are in agreement! :D If you have a better single word for that definition, I'll use that in the future.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-17 10:42:25
November 16 2019 12:33 GMT
#54
Volatile. Inconsistent.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
November 16 2019 15:51 GMT
#55
This KSL is such a mess. Barely watched some of ro16, couldn't find any VODs and now ro8 is over? -_- ...
sunbeams are never made like me...
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3694 Posts
November 16 2019 17:59 GMT
#56
On November 16 2019 08:23 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2019 04:26 superjoppe wrote:
Rain will win his semi final since it’s PvZ. And the final will either be PvZ again, i.e. Rain wins automatically, or PvT. And I can’t imagine Light taking a series over Rain either. So basically Rain already won the finals.

Did you confuse Rain's PvZ for his PvP?

Maybe I did O_O
Or I confused him with Bisu lol
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8176 Posts
November 16 2019 20:55 GMT
#57
Predicting Light beating Zero in the finals!
Free Palestine
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-16 23:24:18
November 16 2019 23:22 GMT
#58
On November 16 2019 15:59 TornadoSteve wrote:
Rain should win against ZerO, 4-2
But SoMa against Light i truly have no idea,
SoMa is on a 9 wins streak on stage, looks pretty scary


Wow... didnt know that.

Light winning an asl... nice.
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TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
November 17 2019 00:41 GMT
#59
Light, Soma and Zero all have a decent shot at the title. Better than Rain imo. This is a pretty funny situation.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11108 Posts
November 17 2019 08:58 GMT
#60
We’ve been getting some great games. little sad crowd doesn’t match the games.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
TiQ.SinGi
Profile Joined December 2004
Norway386 Posts
November 17 2019 13:23 GMT
#61
Nice ro8, so many good games. Good marathon-casting from Tastosis as well! Best series for me was Mini vs Zero'games. And even though Rain is awesome I'm hoping for a Zero vs Light finals. But I'm not sure Zero can take this in a bo7. Rain is just so solid! GG's
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arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
November 17 2019 20:14 GMT
#62
Mini vs Zero was fantastic series, though Mini was a little unlucky. I love watching Mini's pvz, and it was high level play from both sides.

And I'm surprised nobody mentioned the games Soma played. That guy just reinvented zvp and it's like nobody noticed!

For the semis, Zero will 4-0 Rain, no question about that.
But Soma vs Light, I would say Soma has 60% chance to win. Unfortunately that means we will get zvz finals.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19384 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-18 10:42:03
November 18 2019 02:39 GMT
#63
On November 18 2019 05:14 arbiter_md wrote:
Mini vs Zero was fantastic series, though Mini was a little unlucky. I love watching Mini's pvz, and it was high level play from both sides.

And I'm surprised nobody mentioned the games Soma played. That guy just reinvented zvp and it's like nobody noticed!

For the semis, Zero will 4-0 Rain, no question about that.
But Soma vs Light, I would say Soma has 60% chance to win. Unfortunately that means we will get zvz finals.

I believe it is because Soma's build are based off Zero's strategies. And he has been practicing them a ton versus Bisu. He is more impressive in the same way Fantasy plays Terran. He can take a strategy from someone, master, and execute it brilliantly.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 18 2019 07:56 GMT
#64
On November 18 2019 11:39 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2019 05:14 arbiter_md wrote:
Mini vs Zero was fantastic series, though Mini was a little unlucky. I love watching Mini's pvz, and it was high level play from both sides.

And I'm surprised nobody mentioned the games Soma played. That guy just reinvented zvp and it's like nobody noticed!

For the semis, Zero will 4-0 Rain, no question about that.
But Soma vs Light, I would say Soma has 60% chance to win. Unfortunately that means we will get zvz finals.

I believe it is because Soma's build are based of Zero's strategies.

Can I get a source on that? Pretty please.
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1132 Posts
November 18 2019 08:55 GMT
#65
On November 18 2019 05:14 arbiter_md wrote:
For the semis, Zero will 4-0 Rain, no question about that


Just to give you a quick answer: no
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19384 Posts
November 18 2019 10:47 GMT
#66
On November 18 2019 16:56 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2019 11:39 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 18 2019 05:14 arbiter_md wrote:
Mini vs Zero was fantastic series, though Mini was a little unlucky. I love watching Mini's pvz, and it was high level play from both sides.

And I'm surprised nobody mentioned the games Soma played. That guy just reinvented zvp and it's like nobody noticed!

For the semis, Zero will 4-0 Rain, no question about that.
But Soma vs Light, I would say Soma has 60% chance to win. Unfortunately that means we will get zvz finals.

I believe it is because Soma's build are based of Zero's strategies.

Can I get a source on that? Pretty please.

I'll dig around later, but here's the thread discussing Zero's new style: https://tl.net/forum/bw-strategy/550622-zvp-zeros-new-9734-build
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8176 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-18 16:52:16
November 18 2019 16:51 GMT
#67
On November 18 2019 05:14 arbiter_md wrote:
Mini vs Zero was fantastic series, though Mini was a little unlucky. I love watching Mini's pvz, and it was high level play from both sides.

And I'm surprised nobody mentioned the games Soma played. That guy just reinvented zvp and it's like nobody noticed!

For the semis, Zero will 4-0 Rain, no question about that.
But Soma vs Light, I would say Soma has 60% chance to win. Unfortunately that means we will get zvz finals.


According to sponbbang, light is 23-8 vs Soma since October. I think soma seems to be on a hot streak - he's definitely got some fire in him - but light is the heavy favorite unless he chokes big time IMO.
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1132 Posts
November 18 2019 17:16 GMT
#68
clearly not heavy tho
should be a great bo7 anyway
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8176 Posts
November 18 2019 19:21 GMT
#69
On November 19 2019 02:16 TornadoSteve wrote:
clearly not heavy tho
should be a great bo7 anyway


Yeah I'm pumped
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-18 20:40:06
November 18 2019 20:00 GMT
#70
Rain 4-2 Zero
Light 4-3? Soma- not so sure about this one
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 18 2019 20:28 GMT
#71
On November 19 2019 05:00 starkiller123 wrote:
Bisu 4-2 Zero
Light 4-3? Soma- not so sure about this one


Bisu is not playing, man.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
November 18 2019 20:40 GMT
#72
On November 19 2019 05:28 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2019 05:00 starkiller123 wrote:
Bisu 4-2 Zero
Light 4-3? Soma- not so sure about this one


Bisu is not playing, man.

thanks lol, no idea how I mixed that up
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-19 03:25:32
November 19 2019 03:24 GMT
#73
ah nvm
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TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
November 19 2019 04:43 GMT
#74
You guys should all be happy Zero didn't choke against Hyuk the second time or we would've had another string of Rain PvPs. Unless we assume Hyuk would've had a chance vs Mini, had he qualified.

I REEEEEEALLY hope Rain doesn't win that one. With all the potential for great stories this KSL that would be somewhat anticlimactic. The tournament feels rushed anyway, no need to feel even more routine.

WriterReV hwaiting!
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1132 Posts
November 21 2019 13:04 GMT
#75
On November 18 2019 05:14 arbiter_md wrote:
For the semis, Zero will 4-0 Rain, no question about that.


spot on
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