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Grudgematch: Jealous vs. FunnyBananaMan

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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-04 18:41:42
April 04 2019 18:27 GMT
#1
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Friday, Apr 05 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

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Format:
Bo9, Fighting Spirit first map, loser picks from ladder map pool, map repetitions are allowed. I play Protoss. FBM says he is a Terran main, but he also plays a lot of Random, and somehow he ended up having Protoss as his most played race on ladder this season, so I have no idea what is gonna happen there. My plan is to PvT, PvP, PvR, RvR, and maybe RvX if he goes R first.

Stakes:
Loser has to leave the CPL Discord forever.

History of the Grudge

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FunnyBananaMan is a vile piece of shit. I can't stand him. Here is a list of things he has done, in roughly chronological order:

1. After signing up in 2009, FBM "trolls" BW Strategy section with posts such as:

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Keep in mind that at this time, FBM's play looked like this:

YouTube video link.

2. Many years later, FBM contacts the uploader of the above video, who was a friend of FBM's back in the day, asking him to remove the video. Reasoning is "so he could 'reset' his playstyle or something, cuz he could never commit to being good at BW again if that video was up" (quote from community member in the know). Uploader refuses. FBM then begins to threaten and harass uploader's family on Facebook and over the phone. This alone should have warranted FBM being shunned from the community permanently, IMO. As a friend of the uploader, this makes me detest FBM.

3. FBM was banned from NHFFA Discord for this. Then, "he returned with a different account and IP and 90% of the time he was coherent, although annoying with his constant 'newline for each word' chat. and then the other 10% was sudden misplaced racism and alt right trumpisms. I got tired of it." (quote from an NHFFA moderator).

4. FBM begins to shit up TL forums with horrible advice. After observing numerous shit-tier posts, I begin to report them. Here are some examples:

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Eventually he is strategy forum banned, and then after harassing TL moderators via PM, becomes fully banned.

5. FBM was banned from FBW Discord. Haven't found out the reasons yet, but I suspect they will be in a similar vein to the NHFFA Discord issues.

6. FBM was banned from LMaster's Beginner Discord. Reason is being a piece of shit, also pulling the plug when losing games. Imagine being in a Discord designated for newer players and saying something like this:

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7. I call FBM out on some bullshit in CPL general chat, including the fact that he gives bad advice and that it is detrimental to BW. Also that he can't do math because he saw the winrate statistics for all 3 races on ladder, and erroneously stated that this means that "Protoss is OP" or something like that, despite the numbers as a whole clearly indicating a slight positive inclination towards Terran. Here is a screenshot that summarizes FBM's mentality:

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8. The following day, FBM calls me out for a grudgematch. Summary is below, but full text can be found here:


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celeryYesterday at 12:48 PM
chobo man ur always talkin too much
put some money where that mouth is
tired of u man
lol
badpennyYesterday at 12:49 PM
can u guys either just fight already or jerk each other off like bonobos
that or stfu
preferably fight then stfu
celeryYesterday at 12:50 PM
i agree
lets hav bo9 grudge match
to settle our disagreemnt
once and for all
jus like trucatz and terror
but better
badpennyYesterday at 12:51 PM
:mortar_board:
FromTheDuDeYesterday at 12:51 PM
If yall werent pansies youd make it definitive. Bo99
badpennyYesterday at 12:52 PM
loser has to uninstall bw
celeryYesterday at 12:52 PM
right...
yea ok ill agree to leave cpl discord
if i lose bo9
but if i win then chobo has to leave
hows that

...


celeryYesterday at 12:54 PM
why don't we start bo9
and if its tied 4-4
we bump it to 11
and if its tied 5-5
we bump to 13
so that way, we can be sure whose actually better
what if i just 5-0
then it wont be that intersting

...

celeryYesterday at 1:11 PM
so just get chobo to agree to the bo9
and ill meet him on west and well do it
sound good
badpennyYesterday at 1:12 PM
@ChoboSwaggins

...

ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:19 PM
I agree to the Bo9, and your terms (leaving CPL Discord), and since you said to put my money where my mouth is, I will wager $50 on myself and give you 2:1 odds
EndymionYesterday at 1:20 PM
who is holding the money then
so that we make sure no one backs out
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:20 PM
Don't care
EndymionYesterday at 1:20 PM
hmmm
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:20 PM
@celery
celeryYesterday at 1:20 PM
so that means winner gets 50$ from loser
EndymionYesterday at 1:20 PM
yes
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:20 PM
no you dingus
that means if I win, I get $50
if you win, you get $100
EndymionYesterday at 1:20 PM
DAMN
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:20 PM
learn how to fucking math
EndymionYesterday at 1:21 PM
when are we doing this
celeryYesterday at 1:21 PM
haha okay ok
i don't know if i can guarantee you $50 though
so maybe we don't do that part of it
EndymionYesterday at 1:21 PM
just do 50/25 then imo
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:21 PM
then shut the fuck up and get the fuck out after telling me to put my money where my mouth is
go get a job
EndymionYesterday at 1:21 PM
XDDDDDDD
celeryYesterday at 1:21 PM
i would ask how im supposed to pay you
i guess like, venmo
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:22 PM
It's 2019
and what Endymion is talking about is
we both send money to a neutral 3rd party
and then they pay out the money
that way no one can back out when they get embarassed
as they pack their bags and leave yet another brood war discord shamed
celeryYesterday at 1:22 PM
is the 3rd party a person or like, a bank transfer
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:22 PM
a person in the community who is trusted
celeryYesterday at 1:23 PM
if thats even possible
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:23 PM
like lasersnipe for example
celeryYesterday at 1:23 PM
i c
alright, well, i cant guarantee that part but the rest of it i agree to
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:23 PM
how about 5$ then you broke bitch
celeryYesterday at 1:23 PM
i honestly cant electronically send you $5
if i saw you in real life sure
but this isn't that
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:24 PM
wait so you're saying
you told me to put my money where my mouth is
but you have no money to offer yourself
hmm
alright then, I'll put up $5 and you in exchange have to write a formal apology to everyone you have given bad advice to
it can be a public letter, doesn't need specific names
at least 500 words
celeryYesterday at 1:24 PM
if you win
then i do that
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:25 PM
yes
celeryYesterday at 1:25 PM
and i also leave cpl
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:25 PM
and leave CPL discord
celeryYesterday at 1:25 PM
discord
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:25 PM
yes
celeryYesterday at 1:25 PM
alright
and if i win
what do u do
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:25 PM
you get $5 and I leave
celeryYesterday at 1:25 PM
haha
ok make it , 100 words
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:25 PM
no
celeryYesterday at 1:25 PM
500 words r u high
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:25 PM
you have spent 50000 words typing your ignorant nonsense
celeryYesterday at 1:25 PM
that is so many words
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:25 PM
500 to make up for it is a small ask
especially in exchange for potential money
I can't believe you have the gall to argue this
celeryYesterday at 1:25 PM
200 words is my limit
EjYesterday at 1:25 PM
500 words is like a high school essey
it literally takes 60 minutes to write
maybe 2h if you arent well-spoken
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:26 PM
ok moron, no essay, no money, just Bo9 you broke illiterate idiot
celeryYesterday at 1:26 PM
ok fine,
thats fine
deal
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:26 PM
and no coming back on a second account either
obviously
celeryYesterday at 1:26 PM
loser leaves cpl discord
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:26 PM
yes
EndymionYesterday at 1:26 PM
wtf no stakes
celeryYesterday at 1:26 PM
i can agree
well when should we do the match
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:27 PM
@Endymion this poor bastard is too broke and too stupid for stakes.
celeryYesterday at 1:27 PM
i don't finance things electronically
so you are right in a sort of twisted logic
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:27 PM
how about a weekday evening this week? Around 21:00 EDT?
celeryYesterday at 1:27 PM
okay
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:27 PM
Friday?
celeryYesterday at 1:28 PM
cant promise that but maybe sunday
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:28 PM
I can't do Sunday 100%
or Saturday
We can do next week on a weekday
celeryYesterday at 1:28 PM
ok thats fine
i cant do it tonight unless
well i could do it tonight
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:28 PM
if you can't find time this week between having no money and shit posting on Discord
celeryYesterday at 1:28 PM
actually
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:28 PM
Can't tonight, already have plans
celeryYesterday at 1:28 PM
i may not have money to give to ur ass but i do have time
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:28 PM
Tomorrow?
celeryYesterday at 1:29 PM
okay
i could do that
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:29 PM
21:00 EDT?
celeryYesterday at 1:29 PM
tomorrow night sounds fine
that is, 9pm?
yes that sfine
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:29 PM
how did I know you would need clarification
You are East Coast right?
celeryYesterday at 1:29 PM
yes
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:29 PM
Does your mommy and daddy live close to new york?
ok then
celeryYesterday at 1:29 PM
i live in new York jackass
lol
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:29 PM
great
city or state
celeryYesterday at 1:30 PM
both
actually
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:30 PM
Ok then we can still do money, I'm going to the city on Sunday
I'll go early so I can meet you IRL and get my money
$50?
celeryYesterday at 1:30 PM
ha ha ha
where are you going
manhattan
i live manhattan
in
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:30 PM
Manhattan
celeryYesterday at 1:30 PM
what part though
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:31 PM
Midtown west
celeryYesterday at 1:31 PM
i honestly don't wana bet $50
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:31 PM
I knew you was a broke bitch
ok then
celeryYesterday at 1:31 PM
i think cpl discord status is just a fair agreement
HoldenYesterday at 1:31 PM
its about reputations not money lmao
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:31 PM
Uh
He told me I need to put my money where my mouth is
How is me setting a money wager not the obvious response?
HoldenYesterday at 1:31 PM
well you gotta just fight him to the death for no money
dont let him trip you up with his counterlogic
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:32 PM
Oh so let him yap yap like he always does with no real consequences besides server and site bans, which he clearly doesn't learn anything from
Great
celeryYesterday at 1:32 PM
you could meet up with me irl if you really wanted
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:32 PM
No thanks
celeryYesterday at 1:32 PM
i live uptown though
not really anywhere near midtown
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:32 PM
Not interested, I know enough retards in real life
EjYesterday at 1:32 PM
settle it like real men
fist fight
celeryYesterday at 1:32 PM
haha, ok then lol
well keep it to the sc
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:32 PM
Not interested in getting charged with a hate crime either
celeryYesterday at 1:32 PM
in that case
EjYesterday at 1:32 PM
im sure theres a TL user in NYC to livestream
fuck id watch that
celeryYesterday at 1:33 PM
hahaha
nyc has a few tl users cetainly
AnthemYesterday at 1:33 PM
1v1 melee irl?! :scream:
celeryYesterday at 1:33 PM
especially if u factor in queens and shit
and staten island
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:33 PM
First map Fighting Spriri, after that loser picks from the current map pool, repetitions allowed?
celeryYesterday at 1:33 PM
thats fine
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:33 PM
Great
celeryYesterday at 1:34 PM
asl maps too
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:34 PM
See you then, pauper
celeryYesterday at 1:34 PM
or just ladder maps
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:34 PM
No
Ladder maps
celeryYesterday at 1:34 PM
ok cool
tomorrow 9 pm
at the flag pole
see u then
HoldenYesterday at 1:34 PM
this is hardcore shit
desYesterday at 1:34 PM
this is v stupid lol
HoldenYesterday at 1:34 PM
someones gonna die
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:34 PM
not as stupid as buffing guardians
EjYesterday at 1:34 PM
this is fucking awesome
AnthemYesterday at 1:34 PM
I havent seen things get this heated in cpl since Bill Primk
desYesterday at 1:34 PM
idk it's a close contender imo
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:34 PM
^^
well fbm is involved so by definition you are correct
it has to be at least 50% completely retarded
EjYesterday at 1:35 PM
whats that story about
do things really get EXTREME in amateur leagues
FaustYesterday at 1:36 PM
whats fbm
desYesterday at 1:36 PM
female benital mutilation
HoldenYesterday at 1:36 PM
wtfff
stole my joke but then i went back on it
EjYesterday at 1:36 PM
FunkyBongoMister
Jake PlisskenYesterday at 1:36 PM
Whack
desYesterday at 1:36 PM
nut up son
HoldenYesterday at 1:37 PM
I was too scared to pull the trigger on benital
EjYesterday at 1:37 PM
FluffyBonanzaMang
HoldenYesterday at 1:37 PM
i dunno the rules here
EjYesterday at 1:37 PM
dips on id^
Jake PlisskenYesterday at 1:37 PM
Benital v edgy
desYesterday at 1:37 PM
hold my benitals
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:43 PM
@celery you want the games casted? I could try to have it arranged
or would you prefer no stream
celeryYesterday at 1:44 PM
im fine with that
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:44 PM
ok
celeryYesterday at 1:44 PM
if its solely up to me
if you don't/do
id factor in your view
if someone wants to twitc/cast
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:44 PM
I want the world to see you fail in real time
celeryYesterday at 1:44 PM
whatever you say guy
just get someone with a twitch act
and we can get it done
ChoboSwagginsYesterday at 1:45 PM
great



TL;DR Summary: FunnyBananaMan has a long history of being a vile piece of shit in the community (see spoiler for details). FBM was banned from TL in part due to Jealous's reports on his shitty BW Strategy posts. Jealous calls out FBM for giving shit advice in CPL Discord. Back-and-forth argument and insults. FBM challenges Jealous to a Bo9 grudge match. Tells Jealous to put his money where his mouth is. Jealous suggests $50 stakes, giving FBM 2:1 odds (potential to win $100). FBM declines. Jealous suggests $5. FBM declines stating that he "doesn't do finances online." Jealous suggests his own $5, FBM stakes being a 500 word public apology to the community for his shitty advice. FBM declines, stating that 500 words is too much for him to write. Jealous suggests that they meet IRL this weekend, as Jealous is going to NYC where FBM lives, in order to potentially receive the $50 (or give the $100 in the event of a loss). FBM declines, because he doesn't want to bet money. FBM is a broke bitch.

Tune in today to see me remove this cancer from our community once and for all.




"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
badpenny
Profile Joined August 2018
Canada54 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-04 18:33:25
April 04 2019 18:30 GMT
#2
so is there still 5 bucks and an apology on the line or what?
cause i wanna read that apology

edit: THANKS FOR IMMORTALIZING MY BONOBOS COMMENT IN THIS THREAD
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
April 04 2019 18:33 GMT
#3
On April 05 2019 03:30 badpenny wrote:
so is there still 5 bucks and an apology on the line or what?
cause i wanna read that apology

Nope. He only offered 100-200 words and I thought that was basically an insult, considering he is apologizing for 20000 words of bullshit on these forums.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
April 04 2019 18:36 GMT
#4
Somehow this is more hype than chill vs combat ex
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
April 04 2019 18:39 GMT
#5
HYPE
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1433 Posts
April 04 2019 18:45 GMT
#6
So hes banned here as well and cant even respond to this... :D
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
mrwizard70
Profile Joined September 2017
32 Posts
April 04 2019 18:55 GMT
#7
Tell him I’ll pay him 10$ to leave the cpl discord.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
April 04 2019 18:56 GMT
#8
On April 05 2019 03:55 mrwizard70 wrote:
Tell him I’ll pay him 10$ to leave the cpl discord.

Why pay for something that we will have for free?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1433 Posts
April 04 2019 18:57 GMT
#9
Give me $9 and Ill get him off.. $6 for bribes. $3 PROFIT!
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
badpenny
Profile Joined August 2018
Canada54 Posts
April 04 2019 19:02 GMT
#10
he's only banned from strategy, he can still post here
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
April 04 2019 19:03 GMT
#11
On April 05 2019 04:02 badpenny wrote:
he's only banned from strategy, he can still post here

No, he's permanently banned on TL, twice now (funnybananaman and MightyBeast).
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
kaboombaby
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
April 04 2019 19:25 GMT
#12
So it's kind of like using cpl as a platform for embarrassing a lesser player in a public fashion after hurling insults like "broke bitch" at him all day?
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." - Johnathan "Fatal1ty" Wendel
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 04 2019 19:38 GMT
#13
Has he ever, privately or in public, said anything that might suggest whether he actually believes his nonsense or is just trolling?
WriterReV hwaiting!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
April 04 2019 19:38 GMT
#14
On April 05 2019 04:25 kaboombaby wrote:
So it's kind of like using cpl as a platform for embarrassing a lesser player in a public fashion after hurling insults like "broke bitch" at him all day?

Because he gives bad advice and acts holier than thou? Yes, we should definitely use whatever platform we have to make those people stop.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-04 19:42:57
April 04 2019 19:40 GMT
#15
On April 05 2019 04:25 kaboombaby wrote:
So it's kind of like using cpl as a platform for embarrassing a lesser player in a public fashion after hurling insults like "broke bitch" at him all day?

Ah, it's you, always here to complain and play lawyer for non-existent complaints from low level players. I was wondering when you'd show up!

1. It's kind of like purging CPL of a player who has not only harassed a fellow community member's family, but also talked down to low level players in a low level discord, gave bad advice to low level players on TL (which is obviously detrimental to their improvement), and harassed a TL moderator via PM.

2. He challenged me, not the other way around. All I did prior to this was point out that a lot of his advice is garbage, and that he should stop spreading misinformation about the game when he doesn't know the answer to a question. How dare I care about people getting good advice! I'm just the worst! Let's ignore the fact that he was name-calling me for this using creative insults such as "doucher" whereas I drew attention to his faults largely without ad hominem.

3. He told me to "put my money where my mouth is," then acted like the only reason why he doesn't want to bet money is because he can't send money online, until it was revealed that he won't put any money on it at all. After telling me to put my money where my mouth is. I believe calling him a "broke bitch" at this juncture is more than appropriate.

This was fun, let's do it again next time I make a thread. I'll bring the cheese for your whine.

PS: Maybe if you spent as much time practicing as you did fighting a one-man war against people who put in time and effort to organize events and create platforms for lower level players to compete and learn, in order to correct imaginary injustices to low level players, perhaps you would actually improve at the game?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
735 Posts
April 04 2019 19:45 GMT
#16


Funnybananaman is trash
Jealous got this free

Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
April 04 2019 19:56 GMT
#17
What is his mmr? Anyway, gl although I don't think you will need it lol. If you're going zerg though, watch out for his infamous 23 Stargate into 25 citadel into 8 gate timing.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
April 04 2019 19:58 GMT
#18
On April 05 2019 04:56 Anc13nt wrote:
What is his mmr? Anyway, gl although I don't think you will need it lol. If you're going zerg though, watch out for his infamous 23 Stargate into 25 citadel into 8 gate timing.

He's at 1700 MMR currently, which further debases kaboombaby's bullshit position. I'm not going to go Zerg unless I get it through Random, which I will only pick if he picks Random.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Incomplete..ReV
Profile Joined August 2017
Norway633 Posts
April 04 2019 20:49 GMT
#19
I usually only want to be all love thy neighbour and such, but stuff like this is honestly great for the community! It's basically turning hatred into entertainment! And I must admit the cause isn't exactly unjust, per say.

Great introduction! Best of luck, and may the least lesser man win!
It's ok. I still love you <3
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
April 04 2019 20:59 GMT
#20
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