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[Hanbit vs CJ] June 5 Shinhan Proleague

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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-04 19:31:49
June 04 2007 03:16 GMT
#1
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Hanbitstars vs CJ Entus

Certainly the less anticipated of this play day's matches, but we need a thread anyway

Info
18:30 Korea Time on OGN
Watch live on sc2.org as always!
Statistics here!

Games
Game 1
Ganzi vs Iris @ Geometry
Game 2
Free vs Much @ Monty Hall
Game 3
Fantastic_Namoo/Max vs Nbs[gm]/Jy @ Chariots of Fire
Game 4
GGPlay vs Savior @ Sin Peaks of Baekdu
Game 5
Ace Match @ Python

Predictions
Ganzi vs Iris
OH! Yet another TvT on Geometry... only 18 games out of 42 games played total so far were TvT games and 54 players out of 84 players sent out in total were Terran. Yeah, very cool map.
I hope they get rid of it soon, couldn't possibly care less about this game.
Iris is certainly the more experienced and also the better player, but Ganzi has been doing ok in his Proleague TvT games. Iris should win though.

Free vs Much
This could be really cool and go either way, both are really strong. Free had an awesome start into the Proleague season, although his stats (7-4 overall, 2-1 in PvP) now aren't as good as they were earlier and Much has by far the best stats of the CJ players (6-2 overall, 3.2 in PvP).

2v2
The Hanbit-Team has much more experience and way better stats, they should win rather easily.

GGPlay vs Savior
Savior sucks in Proleague and GGPlay hasn't been shining either (except in the Ace match vs Nada on Python) and it's well... ZvZ... could go either way.

Possible Ace match
Both teams have more than one player who would be good for an ace match.

Results
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Ganzi < Iris
Free > Much
Hanbit-Team > CJ Team
GGPlay > Savior
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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
June 04 2007 03:32 GMT
#2
Iris > Ganzi
Much > Free
Hanbit 2v2 > Cj 2v2
Savior > GGplay

CJ 3 : 1 Hanbit
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jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
June 04 2007 03:46 GMT
#3
Iris > Ganzi
Much < Free
CJ < Hanbit
Savior > GGplay

... and Free will pull it off for Hanbit in the Ace match.


CJ 2:3 Hanbit
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
June 04 2007 03:51 GMT
#4
all 4 matches are mirror matches.... BORING!!!!

This matchup could have been so much more exciting.
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Detonate
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Iceland578 Posts
June 04 2007 04:03 GMT
#5
rofl @ all mirror matches. couldn't care less about this. have a feeling im gonna get gayed again though and Hanbit/MBC will win. Had a 8 correct streak, then proleague starts up again and im 1 for 4...fuckin proleague..
inept @ west always up for TMM and 1vs1. TLT3 goGOgOG
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
June 04 2007 04:32 GMT
#6
much vs free should be good games
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
.dragoon
Profile Joined May 2007
United States749 Posts
June 04 2007 06:09 GMT
#7
On June 04 2007 12:51 Live2Win wrote:
all 4 matches are mirror matches.... BORING!!!!

It's called strategy...

game 2 n 4 should be good
If you can, then do. If I can, I will.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
June 04 2007 08:41 GMT
#8
On June 04 2007 12:32 FirstBorn wrote:
Iris > Ganzi
Much > Free
Hanbit 2v2 > Cj 2v2
Savior > GGplay

CJ 3 : 1 Hanbit
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
June 04 2007 08:45 GMT
#9
On June 04 2007 15:09 .dragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2007 12:51 Live2Win wrote:
all 4 matches are mirror matches.... BORING!!!!

It's called strategy...

game 2 n 4 should be good


Still boring XD
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 04 2007 09:50 GMT
#10
CJ hwaiting!~~
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
SunKistOranGeSoDa
Profile Joined May 2007
United States588 Posts
June 04 2007 10:31 GMT
#11
SAVIOR!!!!
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Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
June 04 2007 10:59 GMT
#12
Hanbit fighting ^_^

I'll be reporting this one since it seems to be less popular than KTF vs MBC. If I remember to wake up on time =P
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
June 04 2007 11:05 GMT
#13
Mirrors.
Great -_-
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-04 11:50:39
June 04 2007 11:50 GMT
#14
It better make it to game4. I dont care if its zvz.

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SAVIOR FIGHTIIIIING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~

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SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
June 04 2007 12:36 GMT
#15
Why 2nd game in proleague is always PvP?? Stork vs Much, Much vs Bisu, Stork vs BIsu, Free vs Much, Chal vs Jangbi.. Is that because of the maps beeing such good for protosses or what?..
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
June 04 2007 12:37 GMT
#16
Monty Hall is quite a Protoss favored map. Nemesis is supposedly P-favored as well, but the stats aren't as bad as MH.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 04 2007 12:43 GMT
#17
On June 04 2007 15:09 .dragoon wrote:
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On June 04 2007 12:51 Live2Win wrote:
all 4 matches are mirror matches.... BORING!!!!

It's called strategy...

game 2 n 4 should be good


No its called "what a fucking waste." Carnac had it right.. 4 mirror matchups is fucking lame. 1-2 is fine and nice, but ALL of them being mirror matchups is wasted potential.

"Strategy" wtf? You saying non mirrors have no strategy? Less? Wtf?!?!?!?!?!?~``11
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-04 12:59:05
June 04 2007 12:54 GMT
#18
On June 04 2007 21:37 LastRomantic wrote:
Monty Hall is quite a Protoss favored map. Nemesis is supposedly P-favored as well, but the stats aren't as bad as MH.

Isn't Monty Hall rather difficult for PvT with Terran securing his 3 or 4 bases easily?
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
June 04 2007 12:58 GMT
#19
On June 04 2007 12:32 FirstBorn wrote:
Iris > Ganzi
Much > Free
Hanbit 2v2 > Cj 2v2
Savior > GGplay

CJ 3 : 1 Hanbit
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
June 04 2007 13:10 GMT
#20
On June 04 2007 21:54 Organ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2007 21:37 LastRomantic wrote:
Monty Hall is quite a Protoss favored map. Nemesis is supposedly P-favored as well, but the stats aren't as bad as MH.

Isn't Monty Hall rather difficult for PvT with Terran securing his 3 or 4 bases easily?


Stats favor PvT. Carriers are quite powerful, because they can move from canyon to canyon easily, whereas goliaths have to walk around; Protoss can raze bases with impunity by attacking on one side and moving to the other when golis come to defend.
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.dragoon
Profile Joined May 2007
United States749 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-04 13:33:52
June 04 2007 13:21 GMT
#21
On June 04 2007 21:43 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2007 15:09 .dragoon wrote:
On June 04 2007 12:51 Live2Win wrote:
all 4 matches are mirror matches.... BORING!!!!

It's called strategy...

game 2 n 4 should be good


No its called "what a fucking waste." Carnac had it right.. 4 mirror matchups is fucking lame. 1-2 is fine and nice, but ALL of them being mirror matchups is wasted potential.

"Strategy" wtf? You saying non mirrors have no strategy? Less? Wtf?!?!?!?!?!?~``11


No u idiot!

I'm talkin' strategic planning, you send out the best race for the map, it's why zergs get raped on geometry.

4th set on shin is zvz. I like zvz when players pull all the stops (fast ling, offensive sunken, queen)
If you can, then do. If I can, I will.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 04 2007 13:50 GMT
#22
On June 04 2007 22:10 LastRomantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2007 21:54 Organ wrote:
On June 04 2007 21:37 LastRomantic wrote:
Monty Hall is quite a Protoss favored map. Nemesis is supposedly P-favored as well, but the stats aren't as bad as MH.

Isn't Monty Hall rather difficult for PvT with Terran securing his 3 or 4 bases easily?


Stats favor PvT. Carriers are quite powerful, because they can move from canyon to canyon easily, whereas goliaths have to walk around; Protoss can raze bases with impunity by attacking on one side and moving to the other when golis come to defend.
i would hardly consider 8-7 being favored
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Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
June 04 2007 17:35 GMT
#23
3 mirror matches, fuck you

^^
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
June 04 2007 18:00 GMT
#24
Who won 1st game?
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
June 04 2007 18:03 GMT
#25
Iris beats the shit out of Ganzi.
InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
June 04 2007 18:04 GMT
#26
And how it was? Sexy?~
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
June 04 2007 18:06 GMT
#27
Ganzi was 7, Iris 5. Both sides, as usual, go mass vults. However, Iris manages to consistently sneak groups of three vults into Ganzi's base to harrass. Iris mines up all expansions, but Ganzi unwisely decides to build a CC right next to a mine, planning to float it into position later. Seeing that Ganzi has expanded (and presumably been saving minerals for it), Iris immediately attacks. He kills most of Ganzi's army and stops the expansion attempt.

Having neutralised the threat for the time being, Iris then proceeds to expand himself and defends the expansion. He also denies Ganzi any more expansions.

Before long, Ganzi is out macroed and GGs.
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
June 04 2007 18:07 GMT
#28
I should also mention, I think Iris's upgrades kicked in just as he realised that Ganzi was expanding.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
June 04 2007 18:12 GMT
#29
I'm gonna watch Free vs Much, love these two players!
wolashiwo
Profile Joined June 2007
43 Posts
June 04 2007 18:19 GMT
#30
can someone tell me player/positions?
InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
June 04 2007 18:21 GMT
#31
Free - red at 5
Much - brown at 11
frs
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland60 Posts
June 04 2007 18:21 GMT
#32
much left top, free right bottom
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 04 2007 18:21 GMT
#33
red free
orange much
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Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
June 04 2007 18:24 GMT
#34
Free has sick army I would say
Climbing walls of an endless circle
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
June 04 2007 18:25 GMT
#35
This commercial is lame.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
June 04 2007 18:26 GMT
#36
Free's army rapes center multi of Much
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Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
June 04 2007 18:26 GMT
#37
Free pushes in, that is my boy, nexus down
Climbing walls of an endless circle
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
June 04 2007 18:26 GMT
#38
Much sending 8 goons in top path to go attack Free's north expo
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Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
June 04 2007 18:26 GMT
#39
I like free's style, very nice.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
June 04 2007 18:28 GMT
#40
Both slowly gathering their armies at top path. Free has a lot more dragoons, it looks like.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
June 04 2007 18:28 GMT
#41
Much pushes against Free's larger dragoon army!

blue soup
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Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
June 04 2007 18:28 GMT
#42
sick sick number of goons from free!
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
June 04 2007 18:29 GMT
#43
Both players bye bye all reavers. Free wins the dragoon duel
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Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
June 04 2007 18:31 GMT
#44
Free lost more dragoons he should have because he didn`t have space to use all of them at once -.-
Climbing walls of an endless circle
Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
June 04 2007 18:35 GMT
#45
Damn it Free is losing this. HT/DT drops fucking his eco
Climbing walls of an endless circle
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 04 2007 18:38 GMT
#46
free[gm] free[gm] free[gm] free[gm] free[gm] free[gm] free[gm]
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 04 2007 18:38 GMT
#47
(wins)
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Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
June 04 2007 18:39 GMT
#48
wow big push from Free, nice storms wasting Muchs army.

Much is struggling for money, he has no working expos

Free has mass archon/goon army, he pushes in, it will be enough, GG Free wins.
Climbing walls of an endless circle
Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-04 18:40:59
June 04 2007 18:40 GMT
#49
At one point things looked very bad for Free, fortunately Much ran out of money. Sick macro from Free.

Free FIGHTING
Climbing walls of an endless circle
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
June 04 2007 18:40 GMT
#50
Darn. I think my cat wasn't cheering hard enough.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
June 04 2007 18:40 GMT
#51
Free won because of the advantage he had from the start. That delayed Much a lot. still a nice game!
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
June 04 2007 18:53 GMT
#52
This is bad for CJ. Their 2v2 team hasn't been the same since Rage got drafted. Literally. A new player every match.
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
June 04 2007 19:11 GMT
#53
Hanbit wins. CJ didn't harrass enough, and their protoss didn't pull his weight. The end came when Hanbit rolled over the CJ zerg with Hydras, and then dropped those same hydras into the protoss base, while d-webbing all his dragoons.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
June 04 2007 19:20 GMT
#54
Hanbit's 2v2 is really strong^^

Namoo + Max very good!
InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
June 04 2007 19:24 GMT
#55
Could somebody report Ggplay vs sAviOr? My stream is so dead =<<
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
June 04 2007 19:26 GMT
#56
me2, stream is really laggy!

GGPlay 2 hatch, 1 hatch @ expo, where sAviOr's went 1gate muta
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
June 04 2007 19:27 GMT
#57
savior has 4 drones left, but mutas are done. GG play rushed with buncha lings. Not over yet, but Savior wont last long. CJ is done.

1/2 for tonight.
Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
June 04 2007 19:28 GMT
#58
savior is 1-base mutas
GGplay has an exp with a spore colony and is harrassing with lings.

Other than that... there's just a shit-load of lag
Memory lane in nice
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
June 04 2007 19:28 GMT
#59
which colour is sav and which is ggplay?
Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
June 04 2007 19:28 GMT
#60
2 drones left for savior...
Memory lane in nice
Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
June 04 2007 19:29 GMT
#61
On June 05 2007 04:28 Vin{MBL} wrote:
which colour is sav and which is ggplay?


look at the top, savior (CJ) is orange
Memory lane in nice
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
June 04 2007 19:29 GMT
#62
savior gonna lose!

3-1 to Hanbit!

2/2 for me!
Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
June 04 2007 19:30 GMT
#63
It's over, Hanbit 3:1 CJ
Memory lane in nice
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
June 04 2007 19:31 GMT
#64
sAviOr not pleased haha!
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
June 04 2007 19:34 GMT
#65
It was actually very close. Savior won the first ling battle with superior micro, but instead of going for the nat hatch, he tried to take on GGplay's subsequent lings and lost. With his mutas, he managed to delay GGplay's spire for ages, but in the end, he was overwhelmed by lings.

CJ needs to improve their 2v2. They can't keep hoping that their 1v1ers will pull through for a 3-1 or 3-2 win.
_Grazze_
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
834 Posts
June 04 2007 20:19 GMT
#66
On June 05 2007 04:34 The Storyteller wrote:
It was actually very close. Savior won the first ling battle with superior micro, but instead of going for the nat hatch, he tried to take on GGplay's subsequent lings and lost. With his mutas, he managed to delay GGplay's spire for ages, but in the end, he was overwhelmed by lings.

CJ needs to improve their 2v2. They can't keep hoping that their 1v1ers will pull through for a 3-1 or 3-2 win.


Totaly agree
Detonate
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Iceland578 Posts
June 04 2007 20:36 GMT
#67
well for some reason I voted hanbit so 2/2 i guess
inept @ west always up for TMM and 1vs1. TLT3 goGOgOG
muramasa
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada1299 Posts
June 05 2007 03:59 GMT
#68
I think I should start always voting for the team I think is going to lose T_T. ProLeague is owning me lately.
Hong Jin Ho. Nevar forget.
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
June 05 2007 04:18 GMT
#69
Pics:

http://www.fighterforum.com/newsphoto/news_photo_read.asp?page=1&cat=PHO&idx=2116
http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=list&edit_num=157&db=photo
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