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Germany / USA16648 Posts
Hanbitstars vs CJ Entus
Certainly the less anticipated of this play day's matches, but we need a thread anyway 
Info 18:30 Korea Time on OGN Watch live on sc2.org as always! Statistics here!
Games Game 1 Ganzi vs Iris @ Geometry Game 2 Free vs Much @ Monty Hall Game 3 Fantastic_Namoo/Max vs Nbs[gm]/Jy @ Chariots of Fire Game 4 GGPlay vs Savior @ Sin Peaks of Baekdu Game 5 Ace Match @ Python
Predictions Ganzi vs Iris OH! Yet another TvT on Geometry... only 18 games out of 42 games played total so far were TvT games and 54 players out of 84 players sent out in total were Terran. Yeah, very cool map. I hope they get rid of it soon, couldn't possibly care less about this game. Iris is certainly the more experienced and also the better player, but Ganzi has been doing ok in his Proleague TvT games. Iris should win though.
Free vs Much This could be really cool and go either way, both are really strong. Free had an awesome start into the Proleague season, although his stats (7-4 overall, 2-1 in PvP) now aren't as good as they were earlier and Much has by far the best stats of the CJ players (6-2 overall, 3.2 in PvP).
2v2 The Hanbit-Team has much more experience and way better stats, they should win rather easily.
GGPlay vs Savior Savior sucks in Proleague and GGPlay hasn't been shining either (except in the Ace match vs Nada on Python) and it's well... ZvZ... could go either way.
Possible Ace match Both teams have more than one player who would be good for an ace match.
Results + Show Spoiler +Ganzi < Iris Free > Much Hanbit-Team > CJ Team GGPlay > Savior
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Iris > Ganzi Much > Free Hanbit 2v2 > Cj 2v2 Savior > GGplay
CJ 3 : 1 Hanbit
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Germany2762 Posts
Iris > Ganzi Much < Free CJ < Hanbit Savior > GGplay
... and Free will pull it off for Hanbit in the Ace match.
CJ 2:3 Hanbit
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
all 4 matches are mirror matches.... BORING!!!!
This matchup could have been so much more exciting.
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rofl @ all mirror matches. couldn't care less about this. have a feeling im gonna get gayed again though and Hanbit/MBC will win. Had a 8 correct streak, then proleague starts up again and im 1 for 4...fuckin proleague..
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Canada9720 Posts
much vs free should be good games
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On June 04 2007 12:51 Live2Win wrote: all 4 matches are mirror matches.... BORING!!!! It's called strategy...
game 2 n 4 should be good
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Canada7170 Posts
On June 04 2007 12:32 FirstBorn wrote: Iris > Ganzi Much > Free Hanbit 2v2 > Cj 2v2 Savior > GGplay
CJ 3 : 1 Hanbit
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United States20661 Posts
On June 04 2007 15:09 .dragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2007 12:51 Live2Win wrote: all 4 matches are mirror matches.... BORING!!!! It's called strategy... game 2 n 4 should be good
Still boring XD
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Hanbit fighting ^_^
I'll be reporting this one since it seems to be less popular than KTF vs MBC. If I remember to wake up on time =P
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It better make it to game4. I dont care if its zvz.
(Imagine this font is really, really big. And on fire) SAVIOR FIGHTIIIIING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~
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Russian Federation987 Posts
Why 2nd game in proleague is always PvP?? Stork vs Much, Much vs Bisu, Stork vs BIsu, Free vs Much, Chal vs Jangbi.. Is that because of the maps beeing such good for protosses or what?..
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United States20661 Posts
Monty Hall is quite a Protoss favored map. Nemesis is supposedly P-favored as well, but the stats aren't as bad as MH.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On June 04 2007 15:09 .dragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2007 12:51 Live2Win wrote: all 4 matches are mirror matches.... BORING!!!! It's called strategy... game 2 n 4 should be good
No its called "what a fucking waste." Carnac had it right.. 4 mirror matchups is fucking lame. 1-2 is fine and nice, but ALL of them being mirror matchups is wasted potential.
"Strategy" wtf? You saying non mirrors have no strategy? Less? Wtf?!?!?!?!?!?~``11
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Russian Federation987 Posts
On June 04 2007 21:37 LastRomantic wrote: Monty Hall is quite a Protoss favored map. Nemesis is supposedly P-favored as well, but the stats aren't as bad as MH. Isn't Monty Hall rather difficult for PvT with Terran securing his 3 or 4 bases easily?
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
On June 04 2007 12:32 FirstBorn wrote: Iris > Ganzi Much > Free Hanbit 2v2 > Cj 2v2 Savior > GGplay
CJ 3 : 1 Hanbit
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United States20661 Posts
On June 04 2007 21:54 Organ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2007 21:37 LastRomantic wrote: Monty Hall is quite a Protoss favored map. Nemesis is supposedly P-favored as well, but the stats aren't as bad as MH. Isn't Monty Hall rather difficult for PvT with Terran securing his 3 or 4 bases easily?
Stats favor PvT. Carriers are quite powerful, because they can move from canyon to canyon easily, whereas goliaths have to walk around; Protoss can raze bases with impunity by attacking on one side and moving to the other when golis come to defend.
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On June 04 2007 21:43 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2007 15:09 .dragoon wrote:On June 04 2007 12:51 Live2Win wrote: all 4 matches are mirror matches.... BORING!!!! It's called strategy... game 2 n 4 should be good No its called "what a fucking waste." Carnac had it right.. 4 mirror matchups is fucking lame. 1-2 is fine and nice, but ALL of them being mirror matchups is wasted potential. "Strategy" wtf? You saying non mirrors have no strategy? Less? Wtf?!?!?!?!?!?~``11
No u idiot!
I'm talkin' strategic planning, you send out the best race for the map, it's why zergs get raped on geometry.
4th set on shin is zvz. I like zvz when players pull all the stops (fast ling, offensive sunken, queen)
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
On June 04 2007 22:10 LastRomantic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2007 21:54 Organ wrote:On June 04 2007 21:37 LastRomantic wrote: Monty Hall is quite a Protoss favored map. Nemesis is supposedly P-favored as well, but the stats aren't as bad as MH. Isn't Monty Hall rather difficult for PvT with Terran securing his 3 or 4 bases easily? Stats favor PvT. Carriers are quite powerful, because they can move from canyon to canyon easily, whereas goliaths have to walk around; Protoss can raze bases with impunity by attacking on one side and moving to the other when golis come to defend. i would hardly consider 8-7 being favored
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3 mirror matches, fuck you 
^^
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Iris beats the shit out of Ganzi.
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Ganzi was 7, Iris 5. Both sides, as usual, go mass vults. However, Iris manages to consistently sneak groups of three vults into Ganzi's base to harrass. Iris mines up all expansions, but Ganzi unwisely decides to build a CC right next to a mine, planning to float it into position later. Seeing that Ganzi has expanded (and presumably been saving minerals for it), Iris immediately attacks. He kills most of Ganzi's army and stops the expansion attempt.
Having neutralised the threat for the time being, Iris then proceeds to expand himself and defends the expansion. He also denies Ganzi any more expansions.
Before long, Ganzi is out macroed and GGs.
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I should also mention, I think Iris's upgrades kicked in just as he realised that Ganzi was expanding.
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I'm gonna watch Free vs Much, love these two players!
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can someone tell me player/positions?
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Free - red at 5 Much - brown at 11
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much left top, free right bottom
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
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Free has sick army I would say
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United States20661 Posts
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United States20661 Posts
Free's army rapes center multi of Much
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Free pushes in, that is my boy, nexus down
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United States20661 Posts
Much sending 8 goons in top path to go attack Free's north expo
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I like free's style, very nice.
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United States20661 Posts
Both slowly gathering their armies at top path. Free has a lot more dragoons, it looks like.
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United States20661 Posts
Much pushes against Free's larger dragoon army!
blue soup
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sick sick number of goons from free!
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United States20661 Posts
Both players bye bye all reavers. Free wins the dragoon duel
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Free lost more dragoons he should have because he didn`t have space to use all of them at once -.-
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Damn it Free is losing this. HT/DT drops fucking his eco
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
free[gm] free[gm] free[gm] free[gm] free[gm] free[gm] free[gm]
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
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wow big push from Free, nice storms wasting Muchs army.
Much is struggling for money, he has no working expos
Free has mass archon/goon army, he pushes in, it will be enough, GG Free wins.
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At one point things looked very bad for Free, fortunately Much ran out of money. Sick macro from Free.
Free FIGHTING
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Darn. I think my cat wasn't cheering hard enough.
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Free won because of the advantage he had from the start. That delayed Much a lot. still a nice game!
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This is bad for CJ. Their 2v2 team hasn't been the same since Rage got drafted. Literally. A new player every match.
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Hanbit wins. CJ didn't harrass enough, and their protoss didn't pull his weight. The end came when Hanbit rolled over the CJ zerg with Hydras, and then dropped those same hydras into the protoss base, while d-webbing all his dragoons.
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Hanbit's 2v2 is really strong^^
Namoo + Max very good!
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Could somebody report Ggplay vs sAviOr? My stream is so dead =<<
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me2, stream is really laggy!
GGPlay 2 hatch, 1 hatch @ expo, where sAviOr's went 1gate muta
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savior has 4 drones left, but mutas are done. GG play rushed with buncha lings. Not over yet, but Savior wont last long. CJ is done.
1/2 for tonight.
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savior is 1-base mutas GGplay has an exp with a spore colony and is harrassing with lings.
Other than that... there's just a shit-load of lag
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which colour is sav and which is ggplay?
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2 drones left for savior...
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On June 05 2007 04:28 Vin{MBL} wrote: which colour is sav and which is ggplay?
look at the top, savior (CJ) is orange
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savior gonna lose!
3-1 to Hanbit!
2/2 for me!
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It was actually very close. Savior won the first ling battle with superior micro, but instead of going for the nat hatch, he tried to take on GGplay's subsequent lings and lost. With his mutas, he managed to delay GGplay's spire for ages, but in the end, he was overwhelmed by lings.
CJ needs to improve their 2v2. They can't keep hoping that their 1v1ers will pull through for a 3-1 or 3-2 win.
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On June 05 2007 04:34 The Storyteller wrote: It was actually very close. Savior won the first ling battle with superior micro, but instead of going for the nat hatch, he tried to take on GGplay's subsequent lings and lost. With his mutas, he managed to delay GGplay's spire for ages, but in the end, he was overwhelmed by lings.
CJ needs to improve their 2v2. They can't keep hoping that their 1v1ers will pull through for a 3-1 or 3-2 win.
Totaly agree
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well for some reason I voted hanbit so 2/2 i guess
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I think I should start always voting for the team I think is going to lose T_T. ProLeague is owning me lately.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
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