EPT[ASL7] Grand Finals - Mini vs Last - Page 9
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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oxKnu
1132 Posts
On March 17 2019 23:26 TaardadAiel wrote: Results so far suggest BC is actually Terran favoured. I've stated as much in several previews already, citing sponbbang statistics. Protoss wins on that map in ASL were against lesser foes - jyj and Tinkle come to mind. You are free to elaborate why the map is Terran favoured or you can be edgy. Any discussion is preferable to throwing thinly veiled balance whine. I apologize in advance if that's not what you meant. Most arguments have been made already. My general sentiment is towards the common brigade of people assaulting every new map as imbalanced because "Terran can't win on it" when all is said and done, actual results and games indicated otherwise. Blockchain being the perfect example for it. In short: Terrans love to whine about maps no matter what, and I fricking hate it. | ||
TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
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Rainalcar
Croatia348 Posts
On March 17 2019 23:31 oxKnu wrote: Most arguments have been made already. My general sentiment is towards the common brigade of people assaulting every new map as imbalanced because "Terran can't win on it" when all is said and done, actual results and games indicated otherwise. Blockchain being the perfect example for it. In short: Terrans love to whine about maps no matter what, and I fricking hate it. When all is said and done, it is, as per usual, individual Terrans emerging as multiple winners. | ||
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J. Corsair
United States470 Posts
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Artas1984
Lithuania99 Posts
On March 17 2019 23:24 whaski wrote: Finally Last takes ASL. Really great season and well deserved victory for Last! Stupid! Spoiled everything!!! | ||
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Incomplete..ReV
Norway599 Posts
Uh, are you serious? This thread is to discuss and comment on the games as they happens and after the matter. If you read here, it's entirely your own fault for getting spoiled. | ||
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oxKnu
1132 Posts
On March 17 2019 23:38 TaardadAiel wrote: Is this about the ASL5 map pool or this season's? In general, ASL5 was disgusting in particular for me. All of the talk was about how everything was designed to take down Flash and Terrans when the actual imbalanced map, Transistor, was not even in the discussion. So many hot takes with no actual technical points to base it on. | ||
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Incomplete..ReV
Norway599 Posts
On March 18 2019 00:42 oxKnu wrote: In general, ASL5 was disgusting in particular for me. All of the talk was about how everything was designed to take down Flash and Terrans when the actual imbalanced map, Transistor, was not even in the discussion. So many hot takes with no actual technical points to base it on. Transistor was discussed. People even made a deal about how good Flash was for being able to win the way he did, despite the map. And I also feel it's almost always mentioned how Snow did beat him on Gladiator (generally considered balanced), to point out that they're not putting all the credit to the maps, but that Snow really did play good enough to earn his win. | ||
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oxKnu
1132 Posts
On March 18 2019 01:12 Incomplete..ReV wrote: Transistor was discussed. People even made a deal about how good Flash was for being able to win the way he did, despite the map. And I also feel it's almost always mentioned how Snow did beat him on Gladiator (generally considered balanced), to point out that they're not putting all the credit to the maps, but that Snow really did play good enough to earn his win. Fair point. Keep in mind that I'm also talking here about general SC people, not just this forum. Here people are generally quite astute in their analysis for the most part. | ||
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Jealous
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Nematocyst
United States164 Posts
On March 18 2019 00:24 J. Corsair wrote: Blocked on YouTube. The grand final. Thanks, afreeca. I doubt it's afreeca that's the problem. I think it's safe to assume what they are doing is legal in Korea. If not, fine, blame them. I think it's better to blame either US copyright laws, or to blame Youtube's erring on a side that clobbers fair use. It wouldn't surprise me if what afreeca is doing falls under fair use provisions even in US copyright law, but who the heck wants to try to get youtube to reverse that block? (for every single one) If I were afreeca, I wouldn't bother-- being content to do what's reasonable (posting to YT for the fans outside Korea) and let the fans direct complaints to the right place. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2344 Posts
On March 18 2019 03:25 Jealous wrote: How can the afreeca player crash so fucking much omfg. Basically unusable. Is this not a problem in Korea or something???? I was watching Soulkey's stream of the finals with commentary simply because it was the first place I found the finals on YouTube. And just in game one, he was getting lag, and had to go change settings somehow when it just died completely. I'm not so sure it even works that well in Korea? -_- | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States9926 Posts
On March 18 2019 03:25 Jealous wrote: How can the afreeca player crash so fucking much omfg. Basically unusable. Is this not a problem in Korea or something???? I didnt have one problem with afreeca last night. probably just you | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
Eithe rworks perfectly or not at all | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2344 Posts
On March 17 2019 20:17 oxKnu wrote: Right.. So let me get this right...the record doesn't count because it wasn't standard games, although these are played between top pros at the highest level, but it does count when Terran has anything close to a losing record or god forbid, equal win/loss record to the other races. Yeah I think I get it now. Thanks. Uhhh no, it is absolutely correct and logical to not take a sample size of 4 cheese games as indicative of fucking anything regarding a map's balance. | ||
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LocoBolon
Argentina243 Posts
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
On March 18 2019 08:36 Turbovolver wrote: Uhhh no, it is absolutely correct and logical to not take a sample size of 4 cheese games as indicative of fucking anything regarding a map's balance. ^This... | ||
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Aminus
Bulgaria35 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4090 Posts
On March 18 2019 08:56 Aminus wrote: End of game 2 and i can definitely say, mini is the best protoss player right now, Rain so overrated. Mini showing much much better and complicated games against same opponents Rain got defeated already and in general... And the fact Mini does that by wining a game from a big dissadvantage conquering his own mind just calls for so good story of ones deep improvement not only in game but in character and spirit. Thats the protoss spirit! This side of his is truly spectacular, however, he is not fast enough to be the best imo, either protoss or player, every game when the pressure came, he was banking a lot, in one of the games I think number 3, I was absolutely sure that there was a spectator's bug and it stopped showing mini's spent resources so they are piling there infinitely. This is not Warcraft 3, piling resources is always wrong and harmful. | ||
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