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[ASL7] Grand Finals - Mini vs Last - Page 8

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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10135 Posts
March 17 2019 10:33 GMT
#141
On March 17 2019 19:31 friendbg wrote:
Mini should have been ready for that floating fac

to be fair, he put the pylon down there to make sure last didnt rty anything funky... but last then build the fact on the outside. vs rain he build it inside. mini should have scouted with probe though, but last played this game with 3million IQ. super smat, the bunker rush at the front as well to take attention aawy from the the floating fact. and then the proper response to turret push against fast carriers was beautiful.

Mini played this series sloppily and how he normally plays when he gets tilted, continue to bash your head into a wall and slowly lose. very sad stuff to watch but were we really surprised?
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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1179 Posts
March 17 2019 10:33 GMT
#142
On March 17 2019 19:31 Motivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 19:29 oxKnu wrote:
buildable terrain for T

But blockchain is so P favored right?

because all maps should have unbuildable terrain in the middle and those that don't are T favoured


Middle? This guy is a comedian right here...can't stop laughing.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
March 17 2019 10:33 GMT
#143
I don't think anyone expected Mini to take more than 1 map... I guess this finals was what it was.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4126 Posts
March 17 2019 10:35 GMT
#144
What a great series from Last!
friendbg
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria576 Posts
March 17 2019 10:36 GMT
#145
On March 17 2019 19:33 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 19:31 friendbg wrote:
Mini should have been ready for that floating fac

to be fair, he put the pylon down there to make sure last didnt rty anything funky... but last then build the fact on the outside. vs rain he build it inside. mini should have scouted with probe though, but last played this game with 3million IQ. super smat, the bunker rush at the front as well to take attention aawy from the the floating fact. and then the proper response to turret push against fast carriers was beautiful.

Mini played this series sloppily and how he normally plays when he gets tilted, continue to bash your head into a wall and slowly lose. very sad stuff to watch but were we really surprised?

He did overcome that and came back vs effort, so I was hoping
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
March 17 2019 10:45 GMT
#146
Awesome finals, sad that Mini suffered a bit too much with nerves but fun games!
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Incomplete..ReV
Profile Joined August 2017
Norway633 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 10:56:45
March 17 2019 10:54 GMT
#147
After how good the semi-finals were, this was honestly an anti-climactic finals. Game 1 and 2 showed great promise, even though Mini's blunder counter drop almost seemed to cost him the game. But there were a lot of really nice moves - like Mini's reach-around with the dragoons, Lats's smart play on Block Chain,or Last's amount of turrets shutting down Mini's turret play.

As the series went on, I felt it just got progressively worse. I still feel that Mini has the potential for greatness, but when he starts crumbling, he really falls apart. Last showed some really, really good play, though!

It'd be a decent finals, if it weren't for the semi-finals. Pretty good Game 1 and 2, the rest was "meh" and left a sense of disappointment. Very happy for Last, congratulations! Well deserved! And I hope Mini can keep improving and getting mentally stronger in the future - I expect great things from him (although reaching the ASL finals, beating effort on the way there, is pretty darn great in itself!) :D
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Nematocyst
Profile Joined October 2017
United States164 Posts
March 17 2019 11:00 GMT
#148
On March 17 2019 19:29 oxKnu wrote:
But blockchain is so P favored right?


After the Ro24, I think the casters just decided it was P favored from the results.

But Ro16 onward by that metric, it was heavily T favored. (not that limited ASL results is the best metric)

Last was 4-0 on the map vs P. Snow, Rain 2x, and Mini. The ones vs Rain were pretty good, but the one against Snow was very exciting. Best lost to Mind on it too. Hard to say its P favored and mean it.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4126 Posts
March 17 2019 11:11 GMT
#149
I don't think the games are a good indication of balance at all. Last beat Snow with a proxy rax vs nexus first and 2 x proxy fac vs Rain and Mini, and 1 game was Rain doing a proxy gate which did nothing. Those were hardly standard games.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1179 Posts
March 17 2019 11:17 GMT
#150
On March 17 2019 20:11 Dante08 wrote:
I don't think the games are a good indication of balance at all. Last beat Snow with a proxy rax vs nexus first and 2 x proxy fac vs Rain and Mini, and 1 game was Rain doing a proxy gate which did nothing. Those were hardly standard games.


Right.. So let me get this right...the record doesn't count because it wasn't standard games, although these are played between top pros at the highest level, but it does count when Terran has anything close to a losing record or god forbid, equal win/loss record to the other races.

Yeah I think I get it now. Thanks.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
March 17 2019 11:29 GMT
#151
just tuned in during game 3 as last had set up the contain in front of mini's natural
judging from the replay, mini moved his main army around to the top side of the map and kept no vision of the direct route to watch for an army move from last?? seems weak
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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
March 17 2019 12:18 GMT
#152
What an amazing series, last had such a deserving win. The last game was amazing on how much he countered mini, doing everything to secure an win. He was so far ahead that mini could only follow him

Props to the champ, he gave us the best Ro8 and best Ro4.
BW is back
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
March 17 2019 12:20 GMT
#153
By the way, anyone has a link to rewatch the games? youtube video is blocked for song copyright, as aways
BW is back
Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
Lithuania119 Posts
March 17 2019 12:22 GMT
#154
WHERE IS THE VIDEO?

SOMEBODY PROVIDE A LINK PLEASE!

And don't spoil anything!
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
March 17 2019 12:22 GMT
#155
there was an error with the video. there was an error with the video. there was an error with the video. i don't care i'll spend 5 hours trying to get these 2 hrs of content
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Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
March 17 2019 13:17 GMT
#156
On March 17 2019 21:20 Jackal03 wrote:
By the way, anyone has a link to rewatch the games? youtube video is blocked for song copyright, as aways

click on the afreecatv stream on the front page then you should be able to go to recent streams or something.
lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
March 17 2019 14:05 GMT
#157
Afreeca link.
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland576 Posts
March 17 2019 14:24 GMT
#158
Finally Last takes ASL. Really great season and well deserved victory for Last!
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Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
936 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 14:26:15
March 17 2019 14:25 GMT
#159
Ay I watched on YT exactly before it got blocked.

I'm sorry for those who will depend on the Afreeca shitty player, I hope they focus on retrieving lost VODs before the next season.
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TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
March 17 2019 14:26 GMT
#160
On March 17 2019 20:17 oxKnu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:11 Dante08 wrote:
I don't think the games are a good indication of balance at all. Last beat Snow with a proxy rax vs nexus first and 2 x proxy fac vs Rain and Mini, and 1 game was Rain doing a proxy gate which did nothing. Those were hardly standard games.


Right.. So let me get this right...the record doesn't count because it wasn't standard games, although these are played between top pros at the highest level, but it does count when Terran has anything close to a losing record or god forbid, equal win/loss record to the other races.

Yeah I think I get it now. Thanks.


Results so far suggest BC is actually Terran favoured. I've stated as much in several previews already, citing sponbbang statistics. Protoss wins on that map in ASL were against lesser foes - jyj and Tinkle come to mind. You are free to elaborate why the map is Terran favoured or you can be edgy. Any discussion is preferable to throwing thinly veiled balance whine. I apologize in advance if that's not what you meant.
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