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[KSL2] Ro16 Day 10 - Group C/D Final Match - Page 3

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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 22:06:11
November 23 2018 22:05 GMT
#41
Free run for Rain to the finals, he might win this just off his PvT
Faker is the GOAT!
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8055 Posts
November 23 2018 22:27 GMT
#42
Correct me if I'm wrong but Modesty and Leta both just seem way worse than the rest of the players in the Ro8? It's disappointing to see Modesty never mixed in a 3 hatch in this series, especially after how successful he was with it vs Last last week. He got so far ahead in Game 2 and then threw it all away by over-expanding and trying to literally get every tech at the same time. If he just stuck to 1 route he would have been fine, but instead had to go for greater spire + defiler + lurker + ultra? AND expand 3 places at once?

I guess the whole series (+ their first series) both players were so afraid of counter-harassment from the other that they both just turtled A LOT, but damn it's so frustrating to watch 2 players continuously go for hyper-aggressive builds vs each other over and over again and then see almost nothing happen for the first 12 minutes every game.
I like starcraft
KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
November 23 2018 22:53 GMT
#43
Bad series, Leta-Modesty. Ro8 doesn't look any better. Two mirrors and two expected walkovers by the favorite. Sigh.
Barneyk
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden304 Posts
November 24 2018 03:04 GMT
#44
Bermuda completely threw 2 games, they weren't sure wins but he just messed up and made his advantage into a sure loss.

And Sharp is always so damn good and active with his vultures, why not prepare better for it? And why not adapt better to it in the game? Bermuda played so well in parts of the game, some of the most frustrating matches I have seen.
And why not expand as P when you have an advantage on T?

And Leta vs. Modesty was even weirder than their first series, it is kinda interesting to see Leta use his unique style though and wraiths are fun. But there is so much down time during the games where the wraiths are just sitting there and nothing is going on from either side even though there seems like a lot of opportunity for it.

I get that it is easy for me to say as a spectator but when watching the better players play it is such a big difference.

Anyway, Artosis and Tasteless made it entertaining throughout anyway, and there were some great moments and it is kinda nice to see some unconventional matches from time to time to really appreciate the beauty of a tightly played broodwar game.
nah
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
November 24 2018 04:21 GMT
#45
Ro8
Rain vs Leta
Mind vs Sharp
Soulkey vs Larva
Last vs Where
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
November 25 2018 19:37 GMT
#46
On November 23 2018 22:13 Turbovolver wrote:
"I was trying to figure out what would counter his style, and realised that 2 starport was the best option"

Hahaha, suuuuure Leta



hahaha the interviewer should have burst out laughing on the spot.
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v1p3r52
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand182 Posts
November 25 2018 22:59 GMT
#47
did flash not qualify for or choose to no enter KSL?
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 25 2018 23:47 GMT
#48
As far as i know he didn't even try.
Barneyk
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden304 Posts
November 26 2018 03:31 GMT
#49
On November 26 2018 07:59 v1p3r52 wrote:
did flash not qualify for or choose to no enter KSL?


Flash, and others like Jaedong, chose to not participate in KSL 2 to focus on ASL6 instead.
nah
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
November 26 2018 09:16 GMT
#50
On November 24 2018 07:27 Ideas wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but Modesty and Leta both just seem way worse than the rest of the players in the Ro8? It's disappointing to see Modesty never mixed in a 3 hatch in this series, especially after how successful he was with it vs Last last week. He got so far ahead in Game 2 and then threw it all away by over-expanding and trying to literally get every tech at the same time. If he just stuck to 1 route he would have been fine, but instead had to go for greater spire + defiler + lurker + ultra? AND expand 3 places at once?

I guess the whole series (+ their first series) both players were so afraid of counter-harassment from the other that they both just turtled A LOT, but damn it's so frustrating to watch 2 players continuously go for hyper-aggressive builds vs each other over and over again and then see almost nothing happen for the first 12 minutes every game.


Going 3 hatch doesn't make any sense when playing vs Leta when 99% of the time he's going for 2 port wraith.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8055 Posts
November 26 2018 15:19 GMT
#51
On November 26 2018 18:16 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 07:27 Ideas wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but Modesty and Leta both just seem way worse than the rest of the players in the Ro8? It's disappointing to see Modesty never mixed in a 3 hatch in this series, especially after how successful he was with it vs Last last week. He got so far ahead in Game 2 and then threw it all away by over-expanding and trying to literally get every tech at the same time. If he just stuck to 1 route he would have been fine, but instead had to go for greater spire + defiler + lurker + ultra? AND expand 3 places at once?

I guess the whole series (+ their first series) both players were so afraid of counter-harassment from the other that they both just turtled A LOT, but damn it's so frustrating to watch 2 players continuously go for hyper-aggressive builds vs each other over and over again and then see almost nothing happen for the first 12 minutes every game.


Going 3 hatch doesn't make any sense when playing vs Leta when 99% of the time he's going for 2 port wraith.


Hmm maybe I'm just really dumb and bad at the game but it's not like 3 hat is an automatic BO loss vs 2port? You just need to get hydra den earlier. I've always thought of both being equally viable against 2port but maybe that's just because Ts near my rank on the ladder can't ever pull off 2port and I haven't seen a 3 hat vs 2port pro game since the kespa days and don't really remember how that went any more. Either way I guess Modesty always wants to go 2hat anyway so makes sense that he'd do that vs leta every game.
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arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
November 27 2018 21:41 GMT
#52
I wonder how quick 3 base + spores into tech would do against 2port wraiths.
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2370 Posts
November 28 2018 04:25 GMT
#53
On November 28 2018 06:41 arbiter_md wrote:
I wonder how quick 3 base + spores into tech would do against 2port wraiths.

I do seem to remember a lot more spores being used vs wraiths back in the old days of playing against 2port.

Those games felt different to these ones, though. Old-style 2port, the marine/medic followup came rather quickly after the wraith harassment, and it felt a bit more all-in.
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KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
November 29 2018 03:27 GMT
#54
This tournament sucks. When does the other one start?
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