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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
October 09 2018 11:22 GMT
#81
On October 09 2018 20:14 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2018 20:05 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
On October 09 2018 20:02 nojok wrote:
On October 09 2018 19:59 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Some poeple here have a strange concept dont they.

Because they have high apm, hatcherys on hotkeys. So OBVIOUSLY they dont go to the hatches all the time and click larvas.

They just do it all on the keys and focus on their units and the map ect..

You can hardly blame someone losing drones to a DT. It is one of the easiest things to happen.

Strange people.

What's up with the trend of overrreacting when forumers point out pros' mistakes? It was a mistake to not spot it earlier, even if it's effectively hard to spot.



Where is the overreaction? Did I insult anyone?

My point is: Missing a DT killing Drones happens easily. To spot it is very hard. It depens a lot on luck.

So someone treating it as if it was a "huge blunder" ist rubbish.

Where is the overreaction?

ô.Ô

"Why are the pros so good? etc"

It happens every LR, someone tells us the pros are so good and the game losing mistake was actually a very small mistake etc

Don't worry you're not virulent like some can be. It's just I don't understand the reasonning behind this.



the reasoning is very simple? If someone states 1+1 = 3 I will correct him

If someone says it is an easy/big mistake to lose drones to a DT i will correct him.
If someone thinks a pro gamer is constantly looking at his hatcheries instead of just clicking buttons on his keyboard and focusing on units, mini map ect.. I will correct him.


Just explaining. Losing Drones to a Dark Templar is nothing uncommon. Making it sound like a horrible blunder on efforts part is just wrong (imo).

U understand my reasoning now?
hatred outlives the hateful
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8683 Posts
October 09 2018 11:24 GMT
#82
On October 09 2018 19:59 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Some poeple here have a strange concept dont they.

Why are the pros so good? Because they have high apm, hatcherys on hotkeys. So OBVIOUSLY they dont go to the hatches all the time and click larvas.

They just do it all on the keys and focus on their units and the map ect..

You can hardly blame someone losing drones to a DT. It is one of the easiest things to happen.

Strange people.


Thing is, some people have really high apm and don't use them well. There is also a thing called map awareness. Jaedong was amazing at that back in the day. While you don't get a message for one shots, he would almost always notice DTs killing his drones or lings extremely fast. Effort on the other hand seems to impress a lot of people by playing fast, which really doesn't matter if you don't use those apm correctly or mess up in other areas.

And before everyone jumps on me: I don't think effort is bad. He is really good and things like that can happen. I just stated that I thought it's funny people praise him for his high apm when it really doesn't mean that much.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
October 09 2018 11:24 GMT
#83
it is a bit early to call it but my prediction: Rain takes this

2-2 and we get a great final 5th game =)
hatred outlives the hateful
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3147 Posts
October 09 2018 11:27 GMT
#84
This is going to be tough for EffOrt now.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 09 2018 11:27 GMT
#85
again a dt base clear, this seems effort weak point on this series
BW is back
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 09 2018 11:29 GMT
#86
Really nice interception on the shuttle flying to get the DTs home
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3147 Posts
October 09 2018 11:29 GMT
#87
Those DT's came earlier than the other game as well.

Oh shit drop time. might get stormed though.
Artosis loves Starcraft
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
October 09 2018 11:30 GMT
#88
That drop looked a lot scarier than it ended up being.
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
October 09 2018 11:31 GMT
#89
tense game!
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
October 09 2018 11:32 GMT
#90
On October 09 2018 20:31 Ota Solgryn wrote:
tense game!

Yeah. Best game of the series so far
Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
October 09 2018 11:33 GMT
#91
Hive tech maybe? He relies on Lair so much
#FPPS
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
October 09 2018 11:33 GMT
#92
That Muta micro was nice!
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3829 Posts
October 09 2018 11:34 GMT
#93
Damn Effort just looks so good when he's having a good day
: o )
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
October 09 2018 11:36 GMT
#94
Rains unit control is so bad compared to his normal self.. maybe he wins regardless..
hatred outlives the hateful
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8958 Posts
October 09 2018 11:36 GMT
#95
great game so far !
pretty even supply
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
October 09 2018 11:37 GMT
#96
I'm having a hard time deciding who's ahead here, which is awesome.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8958 Posts
October 09 2018 11:38 GMT
#97
effort has this !
If i play the game from now, i think i can win ^^
and i can't play zvp to save my life
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
October 09 2018 11:39 GMT
#98
i doubt effort has this.. its 50/50 right now
hatred outlives the hateful
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5186 Posts
October 09 2018 11:40 GMT
#99
RAIN NEEDS TO EXPAND
Taxes are for Terrans
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 09 2018 11:40 GMT
#100
best game of the series, so good
BW is back
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