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[ASL6] Ro8 Last vs Sharp
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BLinD-RawR
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LaStScan
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Imo, sharp will win this match if he wins the first game. Can't underestimate sharp's speed in tvt. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On October 07 2018 16:41 LaStScan wrote: Whats the map order? Cb twice for first and 5th? Imo, sharp will win this match if he wins the first game. Can't underestimate sharp's speed in tvt. Map Order: Autobahn Neo Transistor Circuit Breaker Silphyd Autobahn | ||
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Glioburd
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prosatan
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I am so glad it is sunday and i can stay home and watch it! Let's go Sharp (I started to like Sharp when he helped my boy vs Last)! | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
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gingerfluffmuff
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TaardadAiel
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I'm cheering for Last, though, since he has a better chance against the rest of the players, possibly excluding Flash. | ||
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Motivate
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 worst match up of the gameboth players are fairly likeable though, not sure who to root for | ||
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xccam
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Quietly solid in racewars and other weekly type events, less quietly crushing in TvTs. Love to see him do well, he deserves it. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On October 07 2018 18:07 Motivate wrote: ergh TvT worst match up of the gameboth players are fairly likeable though, not sure who to root for clearly you've never watched PvP. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
On October 07 2018 18:07 Motivate wrote: ergh TvT worst match up of the gameboth players are fairly likeable though, not sure who to root for I think you typed worst instead of best by accident. | ||
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konadora
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i for one love it, its the closest we have to compare with chess | ||
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konadora
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prosatan
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On October 07 2018 18:57 konadora wrote: anyway my first live game in a long time, pretty excited! HI KONA ! LR like in the old days  | ||
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konadora
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konadora
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hey man haha will be watching and packing my house today so not much LR, moving house tomorrow :D | ||
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prosatan
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On October 07 2018 18:59 konadora wrote: hey man haha will be watching and packing my house today so not much LR, moving house tomorrow :D AAAA nice nice ! It has started !! | ||
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konadora
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prosatan
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BLinD-RawR
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On October 07 2018 18:59 konadora wrote: afreeca still has problem streaming source quality to outside korea or something? i can run like 3 source streams on twitch without a problem but have to stream on high quality for afreeca :/ just watch the youtube stream then | ||
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prosatan
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On October 07 2018 18:59 konadora wrote: afreeca still has problem streaming source quality to outside korea or something? i can run like 3 source streams on twitch without a problem but have to stream on high quality for afreeca :/ Look Kona - the youtube stream : | ||
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konadora
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prosatan
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prosatan
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better they were blue and red for mirror matchups | ||
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Ziggy
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prosatan
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prosatan
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prosatan
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Tastosis thinks Sharp is in a better position , but i don't think so | ||
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konadora
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prosatan
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if all matches are like that and we get to game 5 , we should stay here 3 hours at least ! | ||
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konadora
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prosatan
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He has this game | ||
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konadora
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NoS-Craig
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Miragee
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BLinD-RawR
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prosatan
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Nice final push by Last ! AlphaGo wins first game | ||
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Warfie
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iFU.pauline
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Warfie
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On October 07 2018 19:46 BLinD-RawR wrote: hopefully next game last can get Charon Boosters. Why fire at buildings and dropships when you can fire at juicy tanks instead | ||
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letian
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konadora
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TaardadAiel
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Miragee
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On October 07 2018 19:52 TaardadAiel wrote: Who said TvT was dull? People who don't understand BW. | ||
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prosatan
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letian
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On October 07 2018 20:03 prosatan wrote: Sharp's macro is sub par i think It was never good to start with. | ||
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letian
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Alur
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prosatan
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letian
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Snorkels
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I love morning philosophy and brood war with Tastosis. What a good way to start a day. | ||
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iFU.pauline
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NoS-Craig
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Still feel like Last in ahead though. | ||
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letian
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prosatan
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3-0 incoming .... | ||
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Miragee
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On October 07 2018 20:32 letian wrote: Don't know how Sharp is going to win this. He isn't. This is going to be a 3-0. Game 2 and 3 have been kind of disappointing after game 1 because they are so one-sided. Last just man-handles Sharp... | ||
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prosatan
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i feel sorry for him | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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letian
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Motivate
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Jackal03
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TaardadAiel
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I think Rain's style is an advantage against Effort though. | ||
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rotta
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JoinTheRain
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Alpha-NP-
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whaski
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machinus
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prosatan
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On October 08 2018 01:35 Alpha-NP- wrote: Who do you guys predict will win in Effort against Rain? One one hand, Jaedong slaughtered Rain 4-0 recently. On the other hand, Rain beat Hero badly 3-1 in the last ASL. I figure Effort is like another Jaedong. Just as good. But remember Effort is the winningest ZvP player. Effort is my LB | ||
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Barneyk
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On October 08 2018 02:01 machinus wrote: Artosis said there were 2 "big" bugs discovered in SC2 remastered. What is the second one? What is the first one? | ||
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arbiter_md
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Yanokabo
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RowdierBob
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I hope Shuttle can somehow get through Action. Mini might take a game from Flash but hard to win a bo5. Shuttle v Flash would be interesting. Last v Effort/Rain will be fun but you can bet Last would much rather face Effort. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On October 08 2018 07:15 Yanokabo wrote: The rest of this tournament is going to be crazy I’d be extremely shocked to see anything but a last vs flash finals that goes the distance 7 games 4:3 to either player. Last looks absolutely premieir form right now he’s shutting down lots of top talent very convincingly. ASL is Bo5 only | ||
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Turbovolver
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This was brought up in the youtube comments, suggested it's the "recall extra units" bug and the "instant mutalisk acceleration" bug that FBH showed. | ||
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Yanokabo
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Ah, my mistake. I’d still say last and flash are heavy favorites to make the finals. Action and effort are the other two next most likely to upset their way into one of the spots. I think a flash vs last finals card still is a 3-2 the way it’s been going. On October 08 2018 09:54 RowdierBob wrote: Last will be rooting for Effort. I hope Shuttle can somehow get through Action. Mini might take a game from Flash but hard to win a bo5. Shuttle v Flash would be interesting. Last v Effort/Rain will be fun but you can bet Last would much rather face Effort. What makes you think that last would prefer a series vs effort? I’d say the opposite, he would prefer to face rain, because rain has looked weak as of late and effort has looked strong, although Tvz might be lasts more favorite matchup compared to tvp. I haven’t watched him quite enough to know, but he looks comfortable in all games he plays to me. He just barely lost his 2fac game vs mini in his group but easily manhandled the rest of his opponents. | ||
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Elsi
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Miragee
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On October 08 2018 16:55 Yanokabo wrote: Ah, my mistake. I’d still say last and flash are heavy favorites to make the finals. Action and effort are the other two next most likely to upset their way into one of the spots. I think a flash vs last finals card still is a 3-2 the way it’s been going. What makes you think that last would prefer a series vs effort? I’d say the opposite, he would prefer to face rain, because rain has looked weak as of late and effort has looked strong, although Tvz might be lasts more favorite matchup compared to tvp. I haven’t watched him quite enough to know, but he looks comfortable in all games he plays to me. He just barely lost his 2fac game vs mini in his group but easily manhandled the rest of his opponents. Rain's PvT is monstrous while Last's TvP is arguably his weakest match up. | ||
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RowdierBob
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On October 08 2018 16:55 Yanokabo wrote: Ah, my mistake. I’d still say last and flash are heavy favorites to make the finals. Action and effort are the other two next most likely to upset their way into one of the spots. I think a flash vs last finals card still is a 3-2 the way it’s been going. What makes you think that last would prefer a series vs effort? I’d say the opposite, he would prefer to face rain, because rain has looked weak as of late and effort has looked strong, although Tvz might be lasts more favorite matchup compared to tvp. I haven’t watched him quite enough to know, but he looks comfortable in all games he plays to me. He just barely lost his 2fac game vs mini in his group but easily manhandled the rest of his opponents. Last just isn’t as good at TvP as his other matchups. Not to say he’s bad at it but I think he’d prefer a TvZ vs Effort over playing Rain. But I think it’s unlikely Rain gets past effort. | ||
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prosatan
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On October 08 2018 18:29 RowdierBob wrote: Last just isn’t as good at TvP as his other matchups. Not to say he’s bad at it but I think he’d prefer a TvZ vs Effort over playing Rain. But I think it’s unlikely Rain gets past effort. I also think Rain will not defeat Effort! i don't know why , but effort seems to be the most confident player out there...him and jangbi back in the days... | ||
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Barneyk
Sweden306 Posts
On October 08 2018 13:56 Turbovolver wrote: This was brought up in the youtube comments, suggested it's the "recall extra units" bug and the "instant mutalisk acceleration" bug that FBH showed. I haven't heard about these bugs, what do they mean and how do they work? | ||
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TiQ.SinGi
Norway385 Posts
Someone wrote about who Last would want to face next round. From past history I think that he would defenitly want a TvZ. His recent trashing of Soulkey and JD (T_T) comes to mind... and why some ppl underestemating Rain?? saying he's got poor form? His PvT is scary, and Last's weakest mu is TvP. Still Rain vs effort.. it's hard to call. I hope it goes all the way to game 5 with effort taking it ;-) We need a Zerg in the ro4 and possibly in the final! (I don't see Action going the distance) effort vs Flash final would be epic. The guy that shut Flash out of winning a forth OSL back in the Korean Air 2010 OSL. Going from 0-2 to 3-2 :-D | ||
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MinscandBoo
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If his macro was better I think the series would have been a lot closer. | ||
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Yanokabo
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On October 08 2018 22:08 TiQ.SinGi wrote: Not too unexpected result's. Last has a sharp TvT :-D :-D Someone wrote about who Last would want to face next round. From past history I think that he would defenitly want a TvZ. His recent trashing of Soulkey and JD (T_T) comes to mind... and why some ppl underestemating Rain?? saying he's got poor form? His PvT is scary, and Last's weakest mu is TvP. Still Rain vs effort.. it's hard to call. I hope it goes all the way to game 5 with effort taking it ;-) We need a Zerg in the ro4 and possibly in the final! (I don't see Action going the distance) effort vs Flash final would be epic. The guy that shut Flash out of winning a forth OSL back in the Korean Air 2010 OSL. Going from 0-2 to 3-2 :-D There were also computer crashing issues in that finals which for me invalidated the legitimacy of it in somewhat, especially since they happened in game 1 where flash was up, swinging the momentum to efforts side in an unforeseen way. Could be the flash fanboy in me talking but in a way it’s logically true flash should have 4 osl golds in his career, so should a rematch with effort come about I think he will have his guns firing to win it. | ||
BisuDagger
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On October 08 2018 18:04 Elsi wrote: Vods blocked again! This has pretty much ruined most of the ASL season for me. I have to enter results for Liquibet without being able to see the games. I really hope they can solve this problem. The app vods are completely unwatchable too. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
On October 08 2018 20:57 Barneyk wrote: I haven't heard about these bugs, what do they mean and how do they work? I couldn't give you a detailed description myself, but there have been mentions of them on these forums. From memory, the arbiter one is about using a trick to get more units to all stack up in one place temporarily, which then means they'll all be recalled when you target that location for Recall. I'm not sure the FBH mutalisk one has been properly explained in English, the vid is only in Korean. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13106 Posts
On October 09 2018 08:55 BisuDagger wrote: This has pretty much ruined most of the ASL season for me. I have to enter results for Liquibet without being able to see the games. I really hope they can solve this problem. The app vods are completely unwatchable too. It’s terrible. I imagine the issue is the music AfreecaTV is using during the broadcasts? I think the AfreecaTV rep was on here a while back saying they had a fix in the works but doesn’t look like it has come to fruition. | ||
BigFan
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Had he done a better job of shutting that down, then there's a chance that Last would've lost his biggest edge and in a tactical battle, Sharp would've come out on top. That's not to say that Last is that inferior tactically because as we saw in game 3, he can pull off great movements, and knows how to exploit the map well (the tanks leap frogging near the bridge, targeting with tanks other tanks, sieging high ground outside fourth of Sharp etc..). It's just that Last seems to be a step ahead in macro and unless you can shut that down, you will lose as you enter the late game. Still, this was a really impressive series for both players. For Sharp, it should've showed him what he had to work on and hopefully he becomes an even better TvTer next time! BTW, did anyone notice Sharp holding back the tears? Poor guy. Hopefully, he wins something soon so that he can feel the joy of a championship! On October 09 2018 03:30 Yanokabo wrote: There were also computer crashing issues in that finals which for me invalidated the legitimacy of it in somewhat, especially since they happened in game 1 where flash was up, swinging the momentum to efforts side in an unforeseen way. Could be the flash fanboy in me talking but in a way it’s logically true flash should have 4 osl golds in his career, so should a rematch with effort come about I think he will have his guns firing to win it. Excuses which diminish EffOrt's achievement. EffOrt won that finals fair and square. You guys should just accept it at this point. It's been about 8 years since! lol. | ||
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BigFan
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reincremate
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reincremate
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On October 12 2018 13:55 BigFan wrote: Did you check the small vod thread? That should always be your go-to since BurnedToast sometimes uses Flash or other pros' channel when the main vods are not available. Been checking it (and its predecessor) for the better part of the past decade  . This time only the blocked official Afreeca YouTube VODS are linked in the thread, and Afreeca is usually super laggy for me like it is for a lot of people outside of SK. Big props to BurnedToast nonetheless for his regular updates. It didn't take too long to find it on Flash's channel though. Was just feeling a bit lazy earlier. Here it is: Picture quality is not as high as the Afreeca VODs, but no lag. Anyway, the Afreeca VODs are playing smoothly for me now with my current VPN configuration. I'd recommend people use VPNs if they really want to watch the crisper VODs. They should be pretty easy to find in the west. Many are blocked here in China. | ||
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