• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:50
CEST 16:50
KST 23:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies18Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12
Community News
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League0Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 VPN experiences vespene.gg — BW replays in browser (Spoiler) ASL21 Winner's Interview [ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Organizations: Raisi…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1291 users

[KSL] Ro16 Day 6(Group B Winners/Losers) - Page 7

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 All
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4173 Posts
August 04 2018 05:12 GMT
#121
Its BW in 2018 so I'm not gonna complain. But I definitely think game knowledge should be improved, and the best way to do this is to watch old english casts which there are plenty of. Sayle's YouTube channel comes to mind.
BearAttack
Profile Joined September 2013
33 Posts
August 05 2018 01:13 GMT
#122
I'm so sick of people making excuses for terrible casting. If you owned a business are you going to hire the most incompetent people and let them run you into the ground while you just giving them a pat on the back? It's soooo pathetic how soft this world has gotten. "I know they're completely incompetent and can't go 2 minutes without saying something so off base that it's completely inexcusable but they're nice to me and show up on time." Give me a fucking break. I can't do it anymore with this shit casting. EVERY time rapid casts the comments are flooded with 90% negative shit and 10% snowflake circle jerking. The producers here are 100% to blame. I should go work in human resources for them they'd certainly hire me after everything I've said if they'll continue employing these clowns after everything they've said. As soon as I see that it's the old pitch and catch combo of rapid and his submissive boyfriend the sound goes off.

User was temp banned for this post.
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
August 05 2018 03:43 GMT
#123
what other broodwar casters are they supposed to hire though lol
aka DragOn[NaS]
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
August 05 2018 04:35 GMT
#124
On August 04 2018 12:02 NoRegreT_ wrote:
I just want to say I appreciate the constructive criticism here, I'm coming from 8 years of sc2 currently I run a team house of sc2 pro gamers my time is clearly divided for mostly sc2. I'm working on my Brood war but as you all know it isn't easy to have in-depth knowledge without a tone of time to understand and play the game. I appreciate your comments and I want you to know I'm working on it. Feel free to leave me any constructive criticisms and I will keep it mind while trying to improve my self.

I haven't actually logged in to TL in years, but I still follow SCBW pretty religiously, and I just wanted to say I think you did a great job. You weren't annoyingly overhyping everything. I think you made some insightful comments. I think when something actually cool happened, you showed excitement. I think overall it was great casting style.

Of course you didn't know very much about the game (but I will say at times you correctly judged pretty difficult situations, which might have been a bit of guessing on your part or maybe you have good intuition for RTS games -- anyway I digress). The moment you made some pretty simple mistakes with unit names and other things, I knew there would be people who troll you, so I wanted to say please don't over-listen to them. I almost didn't say anything, because I'm not one to really post anymore, but I'm sure there are others like me that really enjoyed your casts.

Please watch more BW, and I'd really like if you casted more games. I love Tasteless and Artosis, but for some reason I just really enjoyed your style and hope you do more.

Anyway, just another data point. Cheers.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
August 05 2018 08:58 GMT
#125
On August 05 2018 13:35 Beef Noodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2018 12:02 NoRegreT_ wrote:
I just want to say I appreciate the constructive criticism here, I'm coming from 8 years of sc2 currently I run a team house of sc2 pro gamers my time is clearly divided for mostly sc2. I'm working on my Brood war but as you all know it isn't easy to have in-depth knowledge without a tone of time to understand and play the game. I appreciate your comments and I want you to know I'm working on it. Feel free to leave me any constructive criticisms and I will keep it mind while trying to improve my self.

I haven't actually logged in to TL in years, but I still follow SCBW pretty religiously, and I just wanted to say I think you did a great job. You weren't annoyingly overhyping everything. I think you made some insightful comments. I think when something actually cool happened, you showed excitement. I think overall it was great casting style.

Of course you didn't know very much about the game (but I will say at times you correctly judged pretty difficult situations, which might have been a bit of guessing on your part or maybe you have good intuition for RTS games -- anyway I digress). The moment you made some pretty simple mistakes with unit names and other things, I knew there would be people who troll you, so I wanted to say please don't over-listen to them. I almost didn't say anything, because I'm not one to really post anymore, but I'm sure there are others like me that really enjoyed your casts.

Please watch more BW, and I'd really like if you casted more games. I love Tasteless and Artosis, but for some reason I just really enjoyed your style and hope you do more.

Anyway, just another data point. Cheers.

You pointed out most of the stuff that actually make it disappointing. Noregret definitely has what it takes personality-wise to be a nice complement to Rapid. He just needs knowledge and we (his critics) would like him to try harder. That's all.
WriterReV hwaiting!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51602 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-05 09:14:27
August 05 2018 09:12 GMT
#126
people keep thinking you can just find brood war casters and just bring them over to korea just for days artosis and tasteless aren't available.

there's things called visas. living arrangements. job security.

if it was up to me, i'd pack my bags and move back to korea to do brood war commentary. but the reality is, i'd be going into an uncertain situation and it wouldn't be financially feasible to do so. rapid and noregret would be the first people to agree that i'd do a much better job than them in terms of game knowledge for brood war commentary, but its just not realistic.

if you don't like the commentary, just mute it or watch the korean stream - simple as that.
Commentator
lamarine
Profile Joined January 2003
590 Posts
August 05 2018 09:49 GMT
#127
I enjoy Noregret's casting, because he's got nice analytical skills (definitely better than Artosis). Even though he doesn't have almost any knowledge about BW, he's using he's brain. I wish he could get more knowledge about BW, maybe more casts with Tastosis.

But Rapid... I wish he could slow down and think about what he's saying. It's good with all the excitement, but there is no sense what so ever in what he's saying 90% of the time =\
So... BW is back
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
August 05 2018 11:54 GMT
#128
They can do the job, I'm certain. I hope they prefer feedback (not flaming) as opposed to quietly muting the stream or switching to the Korean one.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
August 05 2018 12:45 GMT
#129
Rapid is a treasure to this community and I won't have a bad word said against him. NoRegret, I appreciate you learning and getting into Broodwar and the effort you put in is great so huge thanks to you for living out in Korea and doing something like this! It must be really hard so I really do look up to you for doing it.

I'm obviously just a small community caster, but Rapid is kind enough to cast with me at 4AM often times 3 times a week and he makes the experience for me super awesome. He's a great guy and a great friend. You guys need to remember Rapid casts not only Broodwar, but he casts like 8-9 other games or something and he has knowledge about every single one. His HGC casts recently were great too.

Please if you're going to give criticism make sure it's actually constructive. Telling people they suck and are awful not only makes you look like an idiot but it also can hurt people. Yes these people are on a big stream casting for your entertainment, but those entertainers are people too and yes, you don't have to like everyone, but if you've got nothing nice to say why say anything at all?
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany912 Posts
August 05 2018 16:03 GMT
#130
On August 05 2018 12:43 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
what other broodwar casters are they supposed to hire though lol

Isn't Cadenzie in Korea right now at least for some time? She would probably make for a much more knowledgable cast.

On August 05 2018 21:45 Qikz wrote:
Rapid is a treasure to this community and I won't have a bad word said against him. NoRegret, I appreciate you learning and getting into Broodwar and the effort you put in is great so huge thanks to you for living out in Korea and doing something like this! It must be really hard so I really do look up to you for doing it.

I'm obviously just a small community caster, but Rapid is kind enough to cast with me at 4AM often times 3 times a week and he makes the experience for me super awesome. He's a great guy and a great friend. You guys need to remember Rapid casts not only Broodwar, but he casts like 8-9 other games or something and he has knowledge about every single one. His HGC casts recently were great too.

Please if you're going to give criticism make sure it's actually constructive. Telling people they suck and are awful not only makes you look like an idiot but it also can hurt people. Yes these people are on a big stream casting for your entertainment, but those entertainers are people too and yes, you don't have to like everyone, but if you've got nothing nice to say why say anything at all?

There are missing so many basics, the most constructive criticism is to actually learn the game since every area needs a lot of improvement.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1078 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-05 22:41:49
August 05 2018 22:29 GMT
#131
I can definitely see some improvement from Rapid having watched his casts for sometime. And at least they know and acknowledge that their knowledge isn't the best. Even artosis and tasteless makes lots of bad calls these days, i.e. completely missed the fact that mini (vs last) proxied the first pylon and gateway at 7/9 supply on blue storm, and calling this would be a 2 gate strategy....)
BW forever!
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
August 08 2018 15:29 GMT
#132
Who does everyone think will win Light vs Soulkey and Jaedong vs Shuttle?
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
August 08 2018 15:44 GMT
#133
my only real criticism of rapid is also fairly inexplicable to me: sometimes in a rush of excitement he calls a battle totally wrong. totally. sometimes the fights literally over and hes still insisting the side he thought would win, will. Maybe theres a small dsync between the casters and the video? If there is, its so small as to have literally only applied to rapid. That or he'll start calling one player by the wrong name and just keep going. But artosis/tasteless have done that rarely as well so. It's really just over calling battles and not admitting to mistakes quickly enough that i find rapid weak in, otherwise hes a hype man. Well, we need dedicated hype man type casters in broodwar, we dont have many to say the least...
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
August 08 2018 18:47 GMT
#134
On August 09 2018 00:29 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Who does everyone think will win Light vs Soulkey and Jaedong vs Shuttle?


I expect Soulkey vs Light to be a 3-2 match, both could win it though.
JD vs Shuttle, I believe JD can close it out 3-1, but I wouldnt be too surprise if Shuttle somehow manage to take this.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Prev 1 5 6 7 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
#88
WardiTV1348
IntoTheiNu 814
TKL 505
Rex146
Ryung 116
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 505
sc2solar 202
Rex 146
Ryung 116
Railgan 90
ProTech85
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 56299
Jaedong 1878
EffOrt 1754
Mini 1346
Soulkey 375
Larva 361
Hyuk 346
actioN 336
Light 327
firebathero 310
[ Show more ]
BeSt 305
ggaemo 294
Snow 285
Rush 149
Nal_rA 146
Sharp 132
Mind 97
Mong 75
Pusan 65
Sea.KH 63
[sc1f]eonzerg 63
scan(afreeca) 51
ToSsGirL 38
Aegong 37
Barracks 32
Sexy 24
soO 24
Movie 23
Rock 23
JulyZerg 22
HiyA 20
IntoTheRainbow 15
Terrorterran 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
Dota 2
XcaliburYe363
LuMiX0
League of Legends
Reynor106
Counter-Strike
byalli1020
allub222
Other Games
B2W.Neo1060
Dendi905
hiko788
Beastyqt709
Lowko528
XaKoH 428
Hui .227
crisheroes202
ArmadaUGS172
Pyrionflax159
mouzStarbuck117
Liquid`VortiX84
Trikslyr7
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1065
Counter-Strike
PGL841
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 72
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• ZZZeroYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• HappyZerGling58
League of Legends
• Jankos2979
• Nemesis1877
• TFBlade551
• Stunt363
Other Games
• WagamamaTV312
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
1h 11m
Replay Cast
9h 11m
Kung Fu Cup
20h 11m
GSL
1d 18h
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
Replay Cast
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
Maestros of the Game
4 days
IPSL
5 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
IPSL
6 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.