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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
August 04 2018 05:12 GMT
#121
Its BW in 2018 so I'm not gonna complain. But I definitely think game knowledge should be improved, and the best way to do this is to watch old english casts which there are plenty of. Sayle's YouTube channel comes to mind.
BearAttack
Profile Joined September 2013
33 Posts
August 05 2018 01:13 GMT
#122
I'm so sick of people making excuses for terrible casting. If you owned a business are you going to hire the most incompetent people and let them run you into the ground while you just giving them a pat on the back? It's soooo pathetic how soft this world has gotten. "I know they're completely incompetent and can't go 2 minutes without saying something so off base that it's completely inexcusable but they're nice to me and show up on time." Give me a fucking break. I can't do it anymore with this shit casting. EVERY time rapid casts the comments are flooded with 90% negative shit and 10% snowflake circle jerking. The producers here are 100% to blame. I should go work in human resources for them they'd certainly hire me after everything I've said if they'll continue employing these clowns after everything they've said. As soon as I see that it's the old pitch and catch combo of rapid and his submissive boyfriend the sound goes off.

User was temp banned for this post.
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
August 05 2018 03:43 GMT
#123
what other broodwar casters are they supposed to hire though lol
aka DragOn[NaS]
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
August 05 2018 04:35 GMT
#124
On August 04 2018 12:02 NoRegreT_ wrote:
I just want to say I appreciate the constructive criticism here, I'm coming from 8 years of sc2 currently I run a team house of sc2 pro gamers my time is clearly divided for mostly sc2. I'm working on my Brood war but as you all know it isn't easy to have in-depth knowledge without a tone of time to understand and play the game. I appreciate your comments and I want you to know I'm working on it. Feel free to leave me any constructive criticisms and I will keep it mind while trying to improve my self.

I haven't actually logged in to TL in years, but I still follow SCBW pretty religiously, and I just wanted to say I think you did a great job. You weren't annoyingly overhyping everything. I think you made some insightful comments. I think when something actually cool happened, you showed excitement. I think overall it was great casting style.

Of course you didn't know very much about the game (but I will say at times you correctly judged pretty difficult situations, which might have been a bit of guessing on your part or maybe you have good intuition for RTS games -- anyway I digress). The moment you made some pretty simple mistakes with unit names and other things, I knew there would be people who troll you, so I wanted to say please don't over-listen to them. I almost didn't say anything, because I'm not one to really post anymore, but I'm sure there are others like me that really enjoyed your casts.

Please watch more BW, and I'd really like if you casted more games. I love Tasteless and Artosis, but for some reason I just really enjoyed your style and hope you do more.

Anyway, just another data point. Cheers.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
August 05 2018 08:58 GMT
#125
On August 05 2018 13:35 Beef Noodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2018 12:02 NoRegreT_ wrote:
I just want to say I appreciate the constructive criticism here, I'm coming from 8 years of sc2 currently I run a team house of sc2 pro gamers my time is clearly divided for mostly sc2. I'm working on my Brood war but as you all know it isn't easy to have in-depth knowledge without a tone of time to understand and play the game. I appreciate your comments and I want you to know I'm working on it. Feel free to leave me any constructive criticisms and I will keep it mind while trying to improve my self.

I haven't actually logged in to TL in years, but I still follow SCBW pretty religiously, and I just wanted to say I think you did a great job. You weren't annoyingly overhyping everything. I think you made some insightful comments. I think when something actually cool happened, you showed excitement. I think overall it was great casting style.

Of course you didn't know very much about the game (but I will say at times you correctly judged pretty difficult situations, which might have been a bit of guessing on your part or maybe you have good intuition for RTS games -- anyway I digress). The moment you made some pretty simple mistakes with unit names and other things, I knew there would be people who troll you, so I wanted to say please don't over-listen to them. I almost didn't say anything, because I'm not one to really post anymore, but I'm sure there are others like me that really enjoyed your casts.

Please watch more BW, and I'd really like if you casted more games. I love Tasteless and Artosis, but for some reason I just really enjoyed your style and hope you do more.

Anyway, just another data point. Cheers.

You pointed out most of the stuff that actually make it disappointing. Noregret definitely has what it takes personality-wise to be a nice complement to Rapid. He just needs knowledge and we (his critics) would like him to try harder. That's all.
WriterReV hwaiting!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-05 09:14:27
August 05 2018 09:12 GMT
#126
people keep thinking you can just find brood war casters and just bring them over to korea just for days artosis and tasteless aren't available.

there's things called visas. living arrangements. job security.

if it was up to me, i'd pack my bags and move back to korea to do brood war commentary. but the reality is, i'd be going into an uncertain situation and it wouldn't be financially feasible to do so. rapid and noregret would be the first people to agree that i'd do a much better job than them in terms of game knowledge for brood war commentary, but its just not realistic.

if you don't like the commentary, just mute it or watch the korean stream - simple as that.
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lamarine
Profile Joined January 2003
587 Posts
August 05 2018 09:49 GMT
#127
I enjoy Noregret's casting, because he's got nice analytical skills (definitely better than Artosis). Even though he doesn't have almost any knowledge about BW, he's using he's brain. I wish he could get more knowledge about BW, maybe more casts with Tastosis.

But Rapid... I wish he could slow down and think about what he's saying. It's good with all the excitement, but there is no sense what so ever in what he's saying 90% of the time =\
So... BW is back
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
August 05 2018 11:54 GMT
#128
They can do the job, I'm certain. I hope they prefer feedback (not flaming) as opposed to quietly muting the stream or switching to the Korean one.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
August 05 2018 12:45 GMT
#129
Rapid is a treasure to this community and I won't have a bad word said against him. NoRegret, I appreciate you learning and getting into Broodwar and the effort you put in is great so huge thanks to you for living out in Korea and doing something like this! It must be really hard so I really do look up to you for doing it.

I'm obviously just a small community caster, but Rapid is kind enough to cast with me at 4AM often times 3 times a week and he makes the experience for me super awesome. He's a great guy and a great friend. You guys need to remember Rapid casts not only Broodwar, but he casts like 8-9 other games or something and he has knowledge about every single one. His HGC casts recently were great too.

Please if you're going to give criticism make sure it's actually constructive. Telling people they suck and are awful not only makes you look like an idiot but it also can hurt people. Yes these people are on a big stream casting for your entertainment, but those entertainers are people too and yes, you don't have to like everyone, but if you've got nothing nice to say why say anything at all?
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Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
August 05 2018 16:03 GMT
#130
On August 05 2018 12:43 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
what other broodwar casters are they supposed to hire though lol

Isn't Cadenzie in Korea right now at least for some time? She would probably make for a much more knowledgable cast.

On August 05 2018 21:45 Qikz wrote:
Rapid is a treasure to this community and I won't have a bad word said against him. NoRegret, I appreciate you learning and getting into Broodwar and the effort you put in is great so huge thanks to you for living out in Korea and doing something like this! It must be really hard so I really do look up to you for doing it.

I'm obviously just a small community caster, but Rapid is kind enough to cast with me at 4AM often times 3 times a week and he makes the experience for me super awesome. He's a great guy and a great friend. You guys need to remember Rapid casts not only Broodwar, but he casts like 8-9 other games or something and he has knowledge about every single one. His HGC casts recently were great too.

Please if you're going to give criticism make sure it's actually constructive. Telling people they suck and are awful not only makes you look like an idiot but it also can hurt people. Yes these people are on a big stream casting for your entertainment, but those entertainers are people too and yes, you don't have to like everyone, but if you've got nothing nice to say why say anything at all?

There are missing so many basics, the most constructive criticism is to actually learn the game since every area needs a lot of improvement.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-05 22:41:49
August 05 2018 22:29 GMT
#131
I can definitely see some improvement from Rapid having watched his casts for sometime. And at least they know and acknowledge that their knowledge isn't the best. Even artosis and tasteless makes lots of bad calls these days, i.e. completely missed the fact that mini (vs last) proxied the first pylon and gateway at 7/9 supply on blue storm, and calling this would be a 2 gate strategy....)
BW forever!
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
August 08 2018 15:29 GMT
#132
Who does everyone think will win Light vs Soulkey and Jaedong vs Shuttle?
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
August 08 2018 15:44 GMT
#133
my only real criticism of rapid is also fairly inexplicable to me: sometimes in a rush of excitement he calls a battle totally wrong. totally. sometimes the fights literally over and hes still insisting the side he thought would win, will. Maybe theres a small dsync between the casters and the video? If there is, its so small as to have literally only applied to rapid. That or he'll start calling one player by the wrong name and just keep going. But artosis/tasteless have done that rarely as well so. It's really just over calling battles and not admitting to mistakes quickly enough that i find rapid weak in, otherwise hes a hype man. Well, we need dedicated hype man type casters in broodwar, we dont have many to say the least...
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
August 08 2018 18:47 GMT
#134
On August 09 2018 00:29 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Who does everyone think will win Light vs Soulkey and Jaedong vs Shuttle?


I expect Soulkey vs Light to be a 3-2 match, both could win it though.
JD vs Shuttle, I believe JD can close it out 3-1, but I wouldnt be too surprise if Shuttle somehow manage to take this.
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