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[ASL5] Ro8 Shuttle vs Rain - Page 8

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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
April 22 2018 20:45 GMT
#141
terrible games
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
April 22 2018 21:09 GMT
#142
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
April 22 2018 21:36 GMT
#143
On April 23 2018 03:12 nurle wrote:
There must be a better caster than Rapid...Im sorry but its getting ridiculous. He is contradicting everyone, including himself while watching the games live ffs.
Yeah, its nuts. He watches the white army die and declares it the victor, its just...what...
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8639 Posts
April 22 2018 21:46 GMT
#144
On April 23 2018 04:52 FlowerBunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:12 nurle wrote:
There must be a better caster than Rapid...Im sorry but its getting ridiculous. He is contradicting everyone, including himself while watching the games live ffs.


What happened to "if you don't have anything nice to say, better not say anything at all"?


That was a thing? :D
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
April 22 2018 23:34 GMT
#145
On April 23 2018 03:12 nurle wrote:
There must be a better caster than Rapid...Im sorry but its getting ridiculous. He is contradicting everyone, including himself while watching the games live ffs.


There must be a better poster than nurle...Im sorry but its getting ridiculous. He is contradicting everyone, including himself while watching the games live ffs.
The faster caster. @RAPiDCasting
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4384 Posts
April 22 2018 23:35 GMT
#146
On April 23 2018 06:36 Dazed. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:12 nurle wrote:
There must be a better caster than Rapid...Im sorry but its getting ridiculous. He is contradicting everyone, including himself while watching the games live ffs.
Yeah, its nuts. He watches the white army die and declares it the victor, its just...what...

What was with calling those rain dts '85% cacao dark templars'? I like him for such bizarre commentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
April 22 2018 23:38 GMT
#147
On April 23 2018 08:35 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 06:36 Dazed. wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:12 nurle wrote:
There must be a better caster than Rapid...Im sorry but its getting ridiculous. He is contradicting everyone, including himself while watching the games live ffs.
Yeah, its nuts. He watches the white army die and declares it the victor, its just...what...

What was with calling those rain dts '85% cacao dark templars'? I like him for such bizarre commentary


They were dark Templar hiding in the shadows. Extra dark. Extra dark chocolate has higher cacao content.
The faster caster. @RAPiDCasting
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8639 Posts
April 22 2018 23:49 GMT
#148
On April 23 2018 08:34 rapidtransit247 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:12 nurle wrote:
There must be a better caster than Rapid...Im sorry but its getting ridiculous. He is contradicting everyone, including himself while watching the games live ffs.


There must be a better poster than nurle...Im sorry but its getting ridiculous. He is contradicting everyone, including himself while watching the games live ffs.


There are better posters. You just continue to reply to the shitty ones somehow.
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-23 02:52:07
April 23 2018 02:49 GMT
#149
Shuttle honestly played true to what his reputation was like when Broodwar was still rather mainstream: Someone who has decent mechanics, but lacks the vision and strategy (and honestly, brains) to put it together. Watching him play is incredibly frustrating as it consistently feels like he misreads opponents, under-scouts, has units in incorrect defensive positions, or focuses his attention on actions in the current moment that do not yield results.

Watching him seemingly confused as to whether he was going to respond to the surprise DT, for instance, by having a couple dragoons in his base, his probes scattering but making themselves available to be killed, while he has another group of units going into the middle of the map accomplishing absolutely nothing was aggravating. Nevermind the fact that he got a robo in the first place made playing safe easy to begin with, which he failed to do. Players like him make me miss when players like Stork, Bisu, or Nal_Ra (among many others) were at the top of their game, where you didn't just respect their talent, but you respected their decision making. (Though, to be fair, sometimes Bisu's decision making let down his talent as well).

Besides that, great games!
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1706 Posts
April 23 2018 04:10 GMT
#150
Can't believe you all thought Rain was going to lose lol

I guess I do understand the whole OMG RAIN GIRL STREAMZ but goddamn Rain is a better player in almost every way over Shuttle
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Yoshimi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States163 Posts
April 23 2018 07:53 GMT
#151
On April 22 2018 23:35 rapidtransit247 wrote:
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On April 22 2018 21:37 Yoshimi wrote:
I spent money to watch this live. It was my first live Brood War game. I guess I should feel bad?


The only thing you should feel bad about is not saying hi!


Rip
:/

Enjoyed your cast with artosis though!
"If you see a stranger, follow him"
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
April 23 2018 09:59 GMT
#152
On April 23 2018 13:10 ShowTheLights wrote:
Can't believe you all thought Rain was going to lose lol

I guess I do understand the whole OMG RAIN GIRL STREAMZ but goddamn Rain is a better player in almost every way over Shuttle


Yeah, the talent and game sense differential were both on display.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 23 2018 10:47 GMT
#153
Take sparkle out. Semi island is good. But sparkle is boring as hell
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1109 Posts
April 23 2018 13:59 GMT
#154
On April 23 2018 11:49 ColdLava wrote:
Shuttle honestly played true to what his reputation was like when Broodwar was still rather mainstream: Someone who has decent mechanics, but lacks the vision and strategy (and honestly, brains) to put it together. Watching him play is incredibly frustrating as it consistently feels like he misreads opponents, under-scouts, has units in incorrect defensive positions, or focuses his attention on actions in the current moment that do not yield results.

Watching him seemingly confused as to whether he was going to respond to the surprise DT, for instance, by having a couple dragoons in his base, his probes scattering but making themselves available to be killed, while he has another group of units going into the middle of the map accomplishing absolutely nothing was aggravating. Nevermind the fact that he got a robo in the first place made playing safe easy to begin with, which he failed to do. Players like him make me miss when players like Stork, Bisu, or Nal_Ra (among many others) were at the top of their game, where you didn't just respect their talent, but you respected their decision making. (Though, to be fair, sometimes Bisu's decision making let down his talent as well).

Besides that, great games!


so, so true...
Stork is the perfect example. When you watch his stream, you dont understand why the slow and old Stork manages to hold his own against the very bests, Flash for instance, but then you look at his game deeper, he just understand the game so well and avoid bad decision making. He is not the best anymore and will never be again, but hes the perfect practice protoss for any pro imo.

RWLabs
Profile Joined March 2017
Korea (South)273 Posts
April 23 2018 17:12 GMT
#155
On April 22 2018 23:11 tanngard wrote:
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On April 22 2018 21:29 RWLabs wrote:
That was just bad. I feel sorry for people who spent money to watch this live.

Meanwhile in Ygosu everyone has been given a license to hate Protosses.

There was two pretty alright games and two anticlimactic ones. Nothing too terrible. Why are people overreacting? Why on earth would people hate protoss players just because they dont like pvp?


Ygosu is not a nice place for nice people.
Aldaris was the good guy of Brood War.
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
April 23 2018 22:21 GMT
#156
Whose favored to win Hero against Mind?
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
April 23 2018 22:54 GMT
#157
On April 24 2018 07:21 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Whose favored to win Hero against Mind?


Betting sites are currently putting Mind very slightly ahead.
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Barneyk
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden310 Posts
April 24 2018 01:41 GMT
#158
Wow, people really seemed to hate these games. I really liked them.

The first game was very exciting and Rains strategy of keep losing battles like that to win the war and keep the base hidden was exciting as hell to watch.

Game 2 I thought Shuttles pressure on the ramp to distract from the drop was well executed, Rain should've handled it better because a lazy half assed pressure on that tiny ramp shouldn't have distracted him that much and made him that slow to react to the drop, but it did and I thought it was exciting to see.

Similar thing with game 3, the build orders were exciting and to see how much damage Rain was gonna be able to get done before the observer got out was also exciting. Not great, but I enjoyed it.

Sparkle is so weird and it was fun to watch a PvP play out that way, I really enjoyed it...
nah
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8639 Posts
April 24 2018 03:26 GMT
#159
On April 24 2018 10:41 Barneyk wrote:
The first game was very exciting and Rains strategy of keep losing battles like that to win the war and keep the base hidden was exciting as hell to watch.


I doubt it was his strategy to lose the battles. He was certainly active on the map, which was his plan to protect the hidden base from being scouted, but he lost the fights because of inferior unit positioning.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
April 24 2018 05:05 GMT
#160
On April 23 2018 05:19 BlackJack wrote:
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On April 23 2018 01:48 Alpha-NP- wrote:
I like how in every thread about these tournaments, there are arm chair newbs claiming that the korean pros played horribly.


Pretty much. Just look at all the people calling out Shuttle for not getting obs before reavers in game 3. They didn't say a thing when he did the exact same thing in game 2.

Game 2: Shuttle goes 1 gate --> robo. Going reaver before obs isn't a gamble.
Game 3: Shuttle goes 2 gate --> robo. Going reaver before obs is a gamble.

And a needless gamble, after he caught out Rain's dragoons. Shuttle-obs-reaver would've put Shuttle in a dominating position no matter what Rain was getting, and Shuttle had time to adjust his build after catching the dragoons, before the DT showed up. He rolled the dice when he didn't need to, and lost the roll.
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