EPT[ASL5] Ro8 Shuttle vs Rain - Page 7
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MarcoJ
Germany146 Posts
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reincremate
China2216 Posts
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
On April 22 2018 20:48 reincremate wrote: Well, despite the fact that Rain was ahead for pretty much the entire game, there was at least there was some chance of Shuttle coming back in that game and some nice engagements, unlike in game 4 where Shuttle just continuously took a beating. Games 2 and 3 were just Rain and Shuttle making bad mistakes respectively. Pretty much sums it up. But Shuttle's game plan for game 4 was pretty horrid - he invested in two supremely useless dark archons before the first drop into his main; then he used high templar for storm, whereas Rain had a bunch of archons; and somehow he had less sairs in the beginning of the game. And Rain made some great strategic moves in game 1. Transistor is such a tense map, I swear. | ||
Peeano
Netherlands5966 Posts
Hope Shuttle realizes he's too good to cow into submission. His lack of confidence spiraled into defeat. Rain didn't win this as much as Shuttle lost this.  | ||
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oxKnu
1267 Posts
On April 22 2018 20:48 reincremate wrote: Well, despite the fact that Rain was ahead for pretty much the entire game, there was at least some chance of Shuttle coming back and some nice engagements in that game, unlike in game 4 where Shuttle just continuously took a beating. Games 2 and 3 were just Rain and Shuttle making bad mistakes respectively. There was zero chance of Shuttle of every competing in that game. He had a third of the map unscouted for 10 minutes. It was dreadful stuff to watch. | ||
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StarscreamG1
Portugal1653 Posts
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RWLabs
Korea (South)273 Posts
Meanwhile in Ygosu everyone has been given a license to hate Protosses. | ||
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gravity
Australia2330 Posts
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Yoshimi
United States163 Posts
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orvinreyes
577 Posts
On April 22 2018 20:49 MarcoJ wrote: so Rain won by being a trickster. I dont blame him, this was probably his best approach to the series, cause in a long macro game i see shuttle doing way better recently. Game 1 was a macro game, and game 4 too, albeit via shuttle drops. I don't think uncontested hidden bases qualify as being a "trickster", Shuttle has no excuse for poor map awareness and control. | ||
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On April 22 2018 21:29 RWLabs wrote: That was just bad. I feel sorry for people who spent money to watch this live. Meanwhile in Ygosu everyone has been given a license to hate Protosses. There was two pretty alright games and two anticlimactic ones. Nothing too terrible. Why are people overreacting? Why on earth would people hate protoss players just because they dont like pvp? | ||
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RAPiDCasting
Korea (South)594 Posts
On April 22 2018 21:37 Yoshimi wrote: I spent money to watch this live. It was my first live Brood War game. I guess I should feel bad? The only thing you should feel bad about is not saying hi! | ||
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RAPiDCasting
Korea (South)594 Posts
On April 22 2018 19:33 StarscreamG1 wrote: Who's the guy casting with artosis? I don't want to be harsh but.... I'm glad you don't want to be harsh but..... | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
On April 23 2018 01:48 Alpha-NP- wrote: I like how in every thread about these tournaments, there are arm chair newbs claiming that the korean pros played horribly. They produced games that were not entertaining and, at least in game 2 and 3, their reactions and control were below their usual standards - and in game 4 Shuttle had a very disadvantageous unit composition. Hindsight is everything, of course, so I don't claim they are horrible, but the series weren't good and this is fact, although subjective. I don't think anyone here is bashing either player or saying they suck. | ||
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Miragee
8714 Posts
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nurle
Norway308 Posts
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FlowerBunny
Sweden187 Posts
On April 23 2018 03:12 nurle wrote: There must be a better caster than Rapid...Im sorry but its getting ridiculous. He is contradicting everyone, including himself while watching the games live ffs. What happened to "if you don't have anything nice to say, better not say anything at all"? We all have different preferences. If you feel like coming with some constructive criticism - feel free, but right now you are just saying stuff that are only designed to make a certain person feel bad. Please keep it to yourself next time sir. I think he is doing a great job, always bringing a lot of energy to the cast and makes it fun to watch!  | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On April 23 2018 01:48 Alpha-NP- wrote: I like how in every thread about these tournaments, there are arm chair newbs claiming that the korean pros played horribly. Pretty much. Just look at all the people calling out Shuttle for not getting obs before reavers in game 3. They didn't say a thing when he did the exact same thing in game 2. It just so happened that Rain went DT in game 3 and Shuttle paid for his attempt, so all these armchair warriors with the benefit of hindsight can look at the result and call Shuttle's build order dumb on the game he lost but not say anything about his build order on the game he won. Obviously Shuttle's decision to omit observers was an intentional gamble in an effort to try to get an army advantage on the 2 maps that have unforgiving ramps if you can push your opponent back into their base. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On April 23 2018 01:48 Alpha-NP- wrote: I like how in every thread about these tournaments, there are arm chair newbs claiming that the korean pros played horribly. I like how you act as if you could judge it any better? From a pro gamer's perspective, your play is only a bit less flawed than the plays of your average 1500 mmr player. None of us is in the position to judge shuttles play because we are better, or even close enough to tell. But the point of a thread like this is to discuss the games, i guess. | ||
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