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NOTE: THIS THREAD IS FOR USES OF REPLAY DOWNLOADING AND RISING THE PRESTIGE OF WGTOUR, APPRECIATE THESE PLAYERS PLAY IT AND LET THEM EXIST WITHOUT STREAM OF QUESTIONS AND DISTURBING
WGT 1v1 RATING
WGTour nickname -Real aka
W00tz= voodoo.RoNiN
MyM.Gamer = White-rA
sMi.lastmylove - ZergStOry
wotouteng - Lx
DoubleDBeauty = MgZ)Sea3 (?)
SinceToss = Yayba
Maslana[pG] MIstrZZZ
Thinkaboutit =Light
MicroGamerEZ TT1/Oldy
harmonica = Daaman
Rememberthename= Mazur
supermachine = ajtls[S.O]
eassay = 3D.NotForu
sonyo kt.mgw)oo3
ThenewFace
AAsuited = Shaman
HitMyHeart = Sarens
Ignorance = Omni = ChOseN[LighT]
MYM.striderdoom = Day
Leafs = Iefnaij
zhaohui = Xiaozl
fchopin = MgZ)yuki
nihama = Sea.RuBy
GiveItAll= Spades[LighT]
Who is:
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swe-tensevensuited = daze
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He has this on the old rating top 100 still ( squall is ten7suited there) but does he rly play with it wgt now? -,-
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I think sherlock holmes would dedicate it from http://wgtour.com/ , where daze was number one for almost a year and changed to this one ;p
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he's number one cause he won last wgtour ladder and got 1500 points for next season as reward ;]
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DOUBLE~~
w00tz = SunCow? ;D
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I'm Evoken-(with the dash) START DODGIN NUBS, TAI CHI MASTER ZERG OF 1 HOUR ZVT HAS ARRIVED.
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United States7166 Posts
edit: nevermind, apparently i can't read
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On May 15 2007 16:08 pheer wrote:
So true 
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
wow this looks very nice and already some great gamers are playing so I will definately get going on this tonight if I decide to slack on my paper until the absolute last minute!
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Lets make a thread "Recomended WGT-ladder Reps." Helps us rep-fans who dont have so much time to search the needle in haystack;).
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does anybody know where the ladder 1v1 rank page can be found because it obviously can't be found here. Is it one list for all 4 servers or will there be 4 separate #1 ranked persons on each server?
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nevermind. Daze still being at the top of the list with 0-0 threw me.
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On May 15 2007 16:17 Angel[BTL] wrote:So true anyway i hope D3 is comming ^^
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some hard akas so far chocolate cookie-like easy smurfs, if you can call it a smurf :D
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
hmm, to be honest I'm probably more likely to purchase D3 than SC2 hahaha.
<3 SCONE~
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Anyone know who tamp0nzerg is ?
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On May 15 2007 17:51 thedeadhaji wrote:
hmm, to be honest I'm probably more likely to purchase D3 than SC2 hahaha.
<3 SCONE~
lol, same. I figure Starcraft if perfect, I don't need a second one.
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On May 15 2007 20:25 FrozenArbiter wrote:You don't see the potential. SC2 has the potential to unite the starcraft and warcraft 3 communities, do you realize how great this would be? So many sponsors. So many players. So many amazing individuals (the warcraft 3 scene, even though I am not especially into it, I'm pretty sure has several interesting and thoughtful people  ) that can contribute to the game :D You know what I mean? It has the potential for greatness, potential to be starcraft but on a global scale
I feel the same way, but we have to hope it doesn't incorporate too much war3 influence as far as gameplay and mechanics go.
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I think its pretty easy to switch from sc style to war3 but I bet its a lot harder to switch to sc from war 3 style...
a mix of the two games would be weird, but the way I see it it's either you get heroes and lvl them up or you dont
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maybe... bartar is pretty insane.
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it is no surprise. xlo has had pretty shitty results ever since theyve been forking out all this money for their players strangely... o.O
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here's an idea, making a new thread about people who want D3 more than sc2 kek? ;]
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this league and the system is amazing
i love it
after the first game
yes yay ayyaaay THX =]
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greatmeh you said the same exact thing twice. just thought you should know. but anyways i dont think daze is playing he told me the earliest he would be back is probably june?
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nony totally owning up this ladder
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SO will there be TL LAdder now? I would start it with money prize and using toolkit as wgt does to have some competition between them
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iNcontroL
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On May 16 2007 13:07 LemOn wrote:SO will there be TL LAdder now? I would start it with money prize and using toolkit as wgt does to have some competition between them
If you are going to start a "who is who" thread on a ladder, maintain it. Update it and be active.
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i dont know why u would need this thread because most ppl play with their regular accs anyways ;d but its a nice way to get use in wgt mode
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Who is the Chnia man? PJ? undeafted so far.
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its smi.lastmylove, not mylastlove. and i think its a korean who ripped it up last WGT season. i think his clan was razZ/puLs.
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i heard it might be lastgosu. wheres the hotkey checkers!
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Austin10831 Posts
i think it's zergstory, not sure though
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smi.lastmylove is zergstory_namoo
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viewed couple of replays, looks like Midian's style!
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On May 16 2007 13:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2007 13:07 LemOn wrote:SO will there be TL LAdder now? I would start it with money prize and using toolkit as wgt does to have some competition between them If you are going to start a "who is who" thread on a ladder, maintain it. Update it and be active.
Don't get it, what this sentence stating obvious facts has to do with TL Ladder. Maybe I can't read behind the lines well -,-.
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You were being off topic in your own thread -.-
Oh and by the way, lots of people smurf on WGT just click some of the top50 names, a lot of the users are registered on 16 may 2007.
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:D i just talked to daze and he hasnt touched sc in a wihle anyways :D i hope he comes back soon! :D
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
nope iwan it's not me. i have made 2 smurfs, one is DamageDone[LP] and is currently 0-0 and the other i've only played 1 game on and will stay a smurf. i don't intend to play much anyway, maybe 1~2 games a week
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beta season doesnt even matter .. wait for real season then u should start caring about this thread ;D
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On May 15 2007 20:25 FrozenArbiter wrote:You don't see the potential. SC2 has the potential to unite the starcraft and warcraft 3 communities, do you realize how great this would be? So many sponsors. So many players. So many amazing individuals (the warcraft 3 scene, even though I am not especially into it, I'm pretty sure has several interesting and thoughtful people ) that can contribute to the game :D You know what I mean? It has the potential for greatness, potential to be starcraft but on a global scale
FA with his godly insight 
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DoubleDBeauty = ?
and the Chinese player that's undefeated Wotouteng 14-0 = ?
At least others are being legit about their iD's.
Liquid'Nazgul representing 
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DoubleDBeauty = MgZ)Sea3 (Dino)
I'm fairly sure at least.
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Sorry for hijacking my own thread again... BUt will there be reset after Beta is done or the stats will remain the same?
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White-Ra is mym.gamer not mym.player ...
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oh course it will reset -_-!
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DoubleDBeauty is Machine not Dino
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w00tz = voodoo.RoNiN ;p v good zvp user with similar style to suncow and the same as suncow - bad zvt, but much worse then suncow's :p
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Maslana[pG] - Draco
Today country icon was changed from Poland to Korea :p
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xlo. is dying ? draco white-ra strelok out ;p
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On May 17 2007 05:37 Colbi wrote:
DoubleDBeauty = MgZ)Sea3 (Dino)
I'm fairly sure at least.
You are correct
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Who is iG.Reaver ? He has raped Draco 3 times.
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On May 17 2007 11:49 Guybrush wrote:
Who is iG.Reaver ? He has raped Draco 3 times.
8]!
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On May 17 2007 11:49 Guybrush wrote:
Who is iG.Reaver ? He has raped Draco 3 times.
how do u know its draco
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On May 17 2007 11:49 Guybrush wrote:
Who is iG.Reaver ? He has raped Draco 3 times.
Reaver = .. Reaver. Reaver-x17. He has good PvP
On May 17 2007 11:30 Spitfire-ua wrote:Maslana[pG] - Draco Today country icon was changed from Poland to Korea :p
I dont think that's an argument. ToT)P.Petrelli('s flag changed from poland to korea as well.
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I doubt Maslana[pG] is Draco..
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On May 17 2007 11:33 nemY wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2007 05:37 Colbi wrote:
DoubleDBeauty = MgZ)Sea3 (Dino)
I'm fairly sure at least. You are correct
So what guys, some saying machine some Dino, get your s... together so I can remove the ? sign , look awful
On May 17 2007 11:30 Spitfire-ua wrote:Maslana[pG] - Draco Today country icon was changed from Poland to Korea :p
He is not Draco, Even I can tell by APM/EAPM ratio
On May 17 2007 11:49 Guybrush wrote:
Who is iG.Reaver ? He has raped Draco 3 times.
V_Drop)Reaver on West I believe, see TL.tourney thread
HereYou go for Great report of his games (see spoiler)
On May 17 2007 11:24 TT1 wrote:
whos cryagain ?
My opinion added to spoilers. I think he is korean unless Assem is back in his old shape
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"Maslana[pG] - Draco
Today country icon was changed from Poland to Korea "
no it's NOT him. other binds, other apm, other skill...
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On May 17 2007 11:30 Spitfire-ua wrote:Maslana[pG] - Draco Today country icon was changed from Poland to Korea :p
i doubt...he would be breaking the "dont release reps" progaming rule
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On May 17 2007 13:56 LemOn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2007 11:33 nemY wrote:On May 17 2007 05:37 Colbi wrote:
DoubleDBeauty = MgZ)Sea3 (Dino)
I'm fairly sure at least. You are correct So what guys, some saying machine some Dino, get your s... together so I can remove the ? sign , look awful He is not Draco, Even I can tell by APM/EAPM ratio Show nested quote +On May 17 2007 11:49 Guybrush wrote:
Who is iG.Reaver ? He has raped Draco 3 times. V_Drop)Reaver on West I believe, see TL.tourney thread HereYou go for Great report of his games (see spoiler) My opinion added to spoilers. I think he is korean unless Assem is back in his old shape
this guy's main is z and assem doesnt play clean like this
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http://www.wgtour.com/member.php?datab=broodwar&id=177786
Yayba in my opinion. The reasonings:
He has changed his profile, its not a smurf as I can tell by the polls.
He is the only Polish player missing on DkH wgt roster and he is dkh member. If somebody can confirm his '88 birthday date than we can be pretty sure
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cryagain is probably some A- pgt korean no ones ever heard of
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On May 17 2007 14:28 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2007 13:56 LemOn wrote:On May 17 2007 11:33 nemY wrote:On May 17 2007 05:37 Colbi wrote:
DoubleDBeauty = MgZ)Sea3 (Dino)
I'm fairly sure at least. You are correct So what guys, some saying machine some Dino, get your s... together so I can remove the ? sign , look awful On May 17 2007 11:30 Spitfire-ua wrote:Maslana[pG] - Draco Today country icon was changed from Poland to Korea :p He is not Draco, Even I can tell by APM/EAPM ratio On May 17 2007 11:49 Guybrush wrote:
Who is iG.Reaver ? He has raped Draco 3 times. V_Drop)Reaver on West I believe, see TL.tourney thread HereYou go for Great report of his games (see spoiler) On May 17 2007 11:24 TT1 wrote:
whos cryagain ? My opinion added to spoilers. I think he is korean unless Assem is back in his old shape this guy's main is z and assem doesnt play clean like this
I strongly disagree with the fact that he is Z. Surely he plays it the most but there is no one around who can produce over 80 EAPM more with his off race than his main one. Read what I think in the spoiler on the first page
EDIT: And please don't quote such monstrous posts, just pick the line you are answering to if it wasn't quoted before
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On May 17 2007 14:34 zulu_nation8 wrote:
cryagain is probably some A- pgt korean no ones ever heard of
lastgosu? :D
EDIT: what if its two different users playing Z and T on the acc?
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Or it is someone like Androide, naturally Terran player who plays Zerg
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LemOn, don't compare eapm of different races. Making >200 eapm with terran is not a difficult task (especially in TvZ) no matter is terran your off race or main. It's twist of eapm calculation.
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ToT)P.Petrelli( = maybe MiStrZZZ ?
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maslana isnt draco.. i ve checked the hotkeys and apm chart... either he has massively changed his hotkeying and game style after wcg 2006 or he isnt draco
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United States10774 Posts
Cryagain goes Zerg vs Terran/Protoss.
Just doesnt ZvZ. TvZ instead.
all his mu's are insane
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SinceToss = SuperDrone, xLo.Fosken
not sure if there akas for Yayba
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[LP] TEAM FIGHTINNNNNNNNNNNNNNN~~
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On May 17 2007 22:58 rick the dangerous wrote:
maslana isnt draco.. i ve checked the hotkeys and apm chart... either he has massively changed his hotkeying and game style after wcg 2006 or he isnt draco
I'm not saying that maslana is Draco or anything, but didn't he even admit in his recent interview here (confirming indeed that he was Newface15 ) that he changed his hotkeys so that he can stay anonymous?
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Maslana[pG] aka Dunaj[pG]
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ANON IS BACK BITCHES WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE IS GONNA SHIT ON EVERYONE WHO CARES ABOUT HIS WCG PERFORMANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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iNcontroL
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On May 17 2007 23:57 prOxi.BiTe wrote:
SinceToss = SuperDrone, xLo.Fosken
not sure if there akas for Yayba
Doubt it.. fosken plays Z and yayba is a P user in DkH. I dont think Fosken plays P that well.
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I am with Draco now. Maslana[pG] is definitely him. He always sneaks to the PC cafe to keep playing while we are here in korea. I am pretty sure it's him.
16-3 he is not doing so well. But in all honesty, it is not him.
He would not go 16-3 plus he's been with me. Are you guys drunk? He must travel travel travel.
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On May 18 2007 01:08 MYM.Testie wrote:
I am with Draco now. Maslana[pG] is definitely him. He always sneaks to the PC cafe to keep playing while we are here in korea. I am pretty sure it's him.
16-3 he is not doing so well. But in all honesty, it is not him.
He would not go 16-3 plus he's been with me. Are you guys drunk? He must travel travel travel.
ROFL :D Its like you were both drunk and he convinced you to deny what you wrote for some shots :D
On May 17 2007 20:18 InRaged wrote:
LemOn, don't compare eapm of different races. Making >200 eapm with terran is not a difficult task (especially in TvZ) no matter is terran your off race or main. It's twist of eapm calculation.
Actually it is. Show me a single example of a player that has 80 EAPM more in a 15+ minutes long game with a race he doesn't play most of the time.
The Drop with this player is the same as the difference with progamers when they play their off races
On May 18 2007 00:25 Ketama)Djin( wrote:
Maslana[pG] aka Dunaj[pG]
You sure?
On May 18 2007 01:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote:The more you post Lemon the more I wish someone else started this thread >_< Prove me wrong and just update confirmed names (Like you kinda have been) thanks!
Please no off topic. I have to prove you nothing. Do you have your period or sth?>_< Just send me PM and don't send useless posts
On May 18 2007 01:20 iD.SquaLL wrote:
I think Cryagain is Androide. When I played him, he talked in english and I can't think about more foreigner Terrans with 300 apm and such a good micro.
It would fit, he is a genuine terran and played Z on GG Starleague(his aka was Proleague[S2], does anyone have still his reps? )
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iNcontroL
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The more you post Lemon the more I wish someone else started this thread >_<
Prove me wrong and just update confirmed names (Like you kinda have been) thanks!
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I think Cryagain is Androide. When I played him, he talked in english and I can't think about more foreigner Terrans with 300 apm and such a good micro.
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Russian Federation18 Posts
CryAgain is Nal_keke
CryAgain's (Zerg) binds = Nal_keke's binds
CryAgain's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters = Nal_keke's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters
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On May 18 2007 01:08 MYM.Testie wrote:
I am with Draco now. Maslana[pG] is definitely him. He always sneaks to the PC cafe to keep playing while we are here in korea. I am pretty sure it's him.
16-3 he is not doing so well. But in all honesty, it is not him.
He would not go 16-3 plus he's been with me. Are you guys drunk? He must travel travel travel.
lol are u drunk ? ; D
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CruiseR
Poland4014 Posts
SinCeTosS is Yayba fo sho.
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well, polish playaz like to share accs because they know well each other and its easier to make higher rank and play with better playaz, so dont be surprised when you see sb playing 200apm toss and then 300apm zerg (=
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On May 18 2007 01:15 LemOn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2007 20:18 InRaged wrote:
LemOn, don't compare eapm of different races. Making >200 eapm with terran is not a difficult task (especially in TvZ) no matter is terran your off race or main. It's twist of eapm calculation. Actually it is.
Actually it isn't.
Could you be so kind and do not argue if you don't know what are you talking about? Thanks.
+ Show Spoiler +
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Should be clear.
Unlike other races terrans can behave like this whole game, especially when they use mass m&m.
update:
On May 18 2007 07:24 LemOn wrote:
Lol man, whats the point. I didn't argue that you can have higher eapm with terran, I said that you will never have constantly your EAPM 40% higher with your off race.Period.
God dammit. This ss in spoilers show how eapm goes higher than 170. They should show you, that if player with terran has average eapm around 210~250 and with zerg 150~170 it does mean Nothing, cause it is specifics of eapm calculations and terrans play style. You have no idea what is eapm, so, please, do not argue about it at all.
Pardon for the offtopic =___0
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Lol man, whats the point. I didn't argue that you can have higher eapm with terran, I said that you will never have constantly your EAPM 40% higher with your off race.Period.
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Maslana[pG] isnt Dunaj[pG] for sure - I know him personally
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lemon you better manner up in this thread or else we close ans start again.
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EDIT: sry not gonna publish 
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On May 18 2007 02:53 Nt.Emperor wrote:
CryAgain is Nal_keke
CryAgain's (Zerg) binds = Nal_keke's binds
CryAgain's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters = Nal_keke's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters
cryagain's t is amazing, watched a few reps and i was amazed by his multitask.
hmm: KeKe Top, cry bottom
keke's hotkeys are kind of standard but they do look close
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Actually the issue with "MYM.Gamer" aka White-Ra is offical now: White-Ra joins MYM + Interview with him.
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iNcontroL
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Keke has HORRIBLE english. So if that is keke I guess we would need Squall to tell us HOW MUCH english he was speaking. Because if it passed for anything more than severe konglish it is not keke.
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it is Keke, same binds, same apm, same style..
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keke has actually fine english for being a pure korean on bnet.
anyway replay analyzors were correct. it's actually easy to find out who they are by replays. in fact, one of the guy i played yesterday was on smurf acc, but i found out easily by looking at the replay. He was on top 30 wgt but played me with 0-0-0 acc and left without saying GG
p.s. this auto-saving replay is very sexy =] however i hope we can have live-apm again
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iNcontroL
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I stand corrected
People need to stop trying to cheese him and have a real game. All the noteworthy players he has played have made for some shitty ass reps except Mamon's win in which Keke tried to cheese HIM failed and limped along for 30 minutes with incredible micro
Need to see some Lx/Zergstory/Mondragon etc clash with him. That'll be nice!
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is it just me or does more than some people disc when they are losing? just happened for the 3rd time now. this time vs fake.taison... such retards.
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iNcontroL
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I just fucking smashed darki and we werent logged in >_< that fucking newb deserves to have 1 more loss! arrg
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lol you smashed me ? rofl newbie what are youi talking about ? i almost made a progamer come back from nothing and you talk like that lol yesterday i smashed you that was real pwnage
and btw my friend LG)Rage won 2-0 vs day and now he find that those games were removed rofl
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Who is LaStShadOw
His TvP Pressure is ridicilus...i cant even fight him.
I hear his tvt is sick too. Who is he? can anyone confirm?
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you know it's a good ladder when lastgosu has 8 losses already
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On May 18 2007 11:27 Darki[Per] wrote:
lol you smashed me ? rofl newbie what are youi talking about ? i almost made a progamer come back from nothing and you talk like that lol yesterday i smashed you that was real pwnage
and btw my friend LG)Rage won 2-0 vs day and now he find that those games were removed rofl
Almost made a comeback? Was that when you ALMOST won a battle at one of my 5 expansions? Yeah that was amazing!
You are a newbie because you dont do the honorable thing and even laughed about it. If this was reversed you would be bitching all over the WGT admin forums asking for your win. Be satisfied with me doing a lil venting on a non wgt site.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
I'm still in favour of IP banning the whole country of Peru
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stfu 8)
p.d : darki newbie ;D
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So.. does anyone know who LaStShadOw is?... he is now 13-0
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On May 18 2007 12:31 Carnac wrote:
I'm still in favour of IP banning the whole country of Peru
NO because that would also destroy carlo and... can you live with crushing his life?
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On May 18 2007 12:44 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2007 12:31 Carnac wrote:
I'm still in favour of IP banning the whole country of Peru NO because that would also destroy carlo and... can you live with crushing his life?
who the fuck is carlo?
edit: oh wait lol
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On May 18 2007 12:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2007 11:27 Darki[Per] wrote:
lol you smashed me ? rofl newbie what are youi talking about ? i almost made a progamer come back from nothing and you talk like that lol yesterday i smashed you that was real pwnage
and btw my friend LG)Rage won 2-0 vs day and now he find that those games were removed rofl Almost made a comeback? Was that when you ALMOST won a battle at one of my 5 expansions? Yeah that was amazing! You are a newbie because you dont do the honorable thing and even laughed about it. If this was reversed you would be bitching all over the WGT admin forums asking for your win. Be satisfied with me doing a lil venting on a non wgt site.
first of all im better than you 2nd i just dont care if you make a complaint or not about that game you just said " oh that game didnt count because we werent logged " and i said " good for me then 8)"
and to that no name who said something about banning whole peru country stfu please i hate racist comments like that
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god stfu this is a who is who topic and not who is more stupid..
thx..
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iNcontroL
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You heard it! Carnac Darki wants you to stfu because you're a no name! rofl.
Darki you are not better than me. But w/e I suspect you will be banned in a sec, telling a mod to "stfu" generally isn't acceptable.
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yeah a moderator who made a racist comment but w/e i understand his position he is your friend and is somehow supporting you 8/
and incontrol im better than you, of course you can win a game vs me when you know my bo and do a total counter risking like 60% of the game without really knowing if im going to do the same strat
im like 6-1 vs you ..... if you want we can make a showmatch just to see if you can support your own words just answer yes/no and no more talking about this
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darki sucks, incontrol is better
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
I didn't make a racist comment, but let's get back to topic, shall we
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everyone knows incontrol sucks balls
like even claming to be better then him is a joke
thats just granted
T_T
and plz stop abusing this thread.. its who is hwo nothing else
and well one day ago we had 'Vatertag' in germany iand im still pissed drunk but.. plz hguys
this is the topic for who is hwo not for some darki vs incontrol bs..
=)
im so lok´ßoking forwad for the real season !!!!
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iNcontroL
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I 12 expanded.. but yeah back on topic.
Phil don't you have a german protoss players dick to suck?
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egosys lol .
lastshadow is 11-0 because he reset when he got losses and hasn't played anyone good
trying to promote your own friends is purely lol.
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its "than"
and geoff ownz da shit.
but best protoss player is still me ;D (kidding)
I HATE 1.15!!!!! WHERE IS PP!!!! WHEN WILL I BE ABLE TO CREATE OR JOIN WGT GAMES??! WHEN!?
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1. lmao@last post 2. darki is my bitch 3. im gosu 4.tl.net is manner site if bm plz clan x17@useast login 4.wotouteng has 1 loss
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On May 18 2007 12:31 Carnac wrote:
I'm still in favour of IP banning the whole country of Peru
that will remove some easy pts ! no
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Back on topic plz , yea and i dont like that comments about banning all peru either but w e
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On May 18 2007 13:36 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I 12 expanded.. but yeah back on topic.
Phil don't you have a german protoss players dick to suck?
right now its a polish protoss player
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Ok guys, xeris, you say im LaStShadOw's friend.. im not his friend im just noticing him climb so fast...and you say he plays bad players... well he just 2-0'd Aqua66. And 4-0'd NaW-Zpux ? i want to know who he is!? anyway have a idea?
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Lastshadow is probably ..
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Skew
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No they are both on right now.. skew is c4 lastshadow is c2. His pressure is so sick, any idea if he is korean?
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LastShadow is not like "korean korean"... he might be from there but that is a 'real' account if you want to put it like that ; )
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Yeah but anyone know his AKA's or him personally? Has anyone here played him? I tried msging him and after msg 2 DND was on. and his profile is pretty blank.. " Pressure terran..."
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LastShadow
Real name: Nicholas DeCesare
Born in: 1992
Gender: Male
Race: Terran
Website: teamliquid.net
Location: United States United States (Warwick,Rhode Island, USA)
Joined: May 16, 2007
User Is: Offline
-It Is probably fake, but Korean wouldn't think this out
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I dont believe he is 15 or non-korean. That seems so fake. I honestly think its some very good korean.
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Who is BenFranklin and sMi.BaDa ?
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Looks just like a polish player to me
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BenFranklin is.. 3-2?. sMi.Bada is from west. i think he is smi.dada. Ok anyway i really want to find out who lastshadow is. idra/skew/advokate????/korean? he just beat naw-datoby pretty bad from his latest replay.
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i think we got a fanboyyyy =D
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On May 18 2007 18:13 Return wrote:
i think we got a fanboyyyy =D
like i said..i dont fan him. i just think his style is unlike any player i've ever seen. And im wondering what player he really is. As i said before he just exploded today with a 19-1 beating known players very fast/easy
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Just 3-2'd Draco He stopped saying gg when he started losing hahaha
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Inc have you played lastshadow yet?
edit- inc really nice job :O
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On May 18 2007 18:15 egOsYs wrote:like i said..i dont fan him. i just think his style is unlike any player i've ever seen. And im wondering what player he really is. As i said before he just exploded today with a 19-1 beating known players very fast/easy
WE WATCHED REPLAYS TOGETHER YOURE HIS FRIEND STOP PRETENDING YOU DONT KNOW HIM, ARE YOU HIS BITCH? DOES HE FEED YOU FOR DOING THIS?
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On May 18 2007 18:34 zulu_nation8 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2007 18:15 egOsYs wrote:On May 18 2007 18:13 Return wrote:
i think we got a fanboyyyy =D like i said..i dont fan him. i just think his style is unlike any player i've ever seen. And im wondering what player he really is. As i said before he just exploded today with a 19-1 beating known players very fast/easy WE WATCHED REPLAYS TOGETHER YOURE HIS FRIEND STOP PRETENDING YOU DONT KNOW HIM, ARE YOU HIS BITCH? DOES HE FEED YOU FOR DOING THIS?
I've obsed him on west, and i just thought he was decent. Im sorry if i seem as though im his friend......
I'll stop now, i just wanted to know who he is. not too many terrans are good on wgt.
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WE CHATTED TOGETHER, YOU KNOW WHO HE IS, STOP FUCKING TROLLING UP THIS THREAD PLEASE
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iNcontroL
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woops
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On May 18 2007 13:49 Xeris wrote:
egosys lol .
lastshadow is 11-0 because he reset when he got losses and hasn't played anyone good
trying to promote your own friends is purely lol.
lol xeris, from reading 10 of his posts all about lastshadow, i came to a conclusion that egosys = lastshadow lol
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we can safely say now that draco is not maslana[pg]
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egosys you can stop posting about me here. I like that you enjoy my play. However stop. I just made this account to say this...bye
Acctually - i now severly dislike you egosys, stop msging me on wgt. i dont like you at all.
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On May 18 2007 11:27 Darki[Per] wrote:
btw my friend LG)Rage won 2-0 vs day and now he find that those games were removed rofl
have proof? cuz it is a clearly abusing if it's true.
i hope not because i already had some bs experiences from his smurf id.
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And
lol @ egosys and lastshadow
just LOL
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On May 18 2007 17:13 egOsYs wrote:
Ok guys, xeris, you say im LaStShadOw's friend.. im not his friend im just noticing him climb so fast...and you say he plays bad players... well he just 2-0'd Aqua66. And 4-0'd NaW-Zpux ? i want to know who he is!? anyway have a idea?
bit off but meh
http://www.wgtour.com/listGames.php?datab=broodwar&id=323894&type=1v1
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Poor egosys, was turned down by LastShadow hahaha
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PJ is a progamer~
top 4 in rest of world outside korea... hell play in the blizzard invitational this year! check him out.
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On May 18 2007 20:28 mrscheng wrote:
PJ is a progamer~
top 4 in rest of world outside korea... hell play in the blizzard invitational this year! check him out.
???????? wtf
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the swedish carlodajin o_o
btw i dont think that pg guy is draco control
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On May 18 2007 19:17 Nal_CrayOn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2007 11:27 Darki[Per] wrote:
btw my friend LG)Rage won 2-0 vs day and now he find that those games were removed rofl
have proof? cuz it is a clearly abusing if it's true. i hope not because i already had some bs experiences from his smurf id.
i do have proof i have those reps but im too lazy to make a special forum of that and lg)rage dont have a decent english to defend himself so whatever LG)Rage won vs top 1 z from usa kk ? Peru pwn 8D
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everyone keeps making same posts without reading the others..
LastShadow is not some Korean.. in terms of some Korean in Korea smurfing as american. He's been all over the forums - he was the kid that said he had that friend that called him a hacker because he beat him a few times.. He was the one that says that he's getting better and doesn't want to lose his b.net friend because he's beating him and his friend is getting bm..
He is american - I don't see a reason why he would want to hide who he is, nor anyone else for that matter.. why not get the recognition u deserve? If someone beats Draco (who is smurfing on WGT), why not let everyone know taht you beat him. Not going around saying "I 2-0'd Draco", just letting it be known through ur iD that u beat him - as opposed to seeing 2 unknown players who no one knows who the F it is.
LastShadow isn't Idra either.. Idra[Media] is alrdy playing WGT and doing better than he is.. Why would ppl have more than 1 account on WGT.. I thought it wasn't allowed anyway? I know that WGT admins are suckups and will do about anything for "famous" players but still, no point in more than 1 account.
I think Control and Darki should have a showmatch to see who's better, on that topic. Seeing as though they keep butting heads and one obviously thinks they're better than the other.. Put it to the test and throw down on a best of 5. Of course Control will prolly be the one to refuse, since it just seems like that. Darki alrdy suggested the idea - why not settle it and get 3 back-to-back wins and then let it rest? Of course no one who ever starts talking shit ever decides to actually do that - they take the easier route and "pssh, I 2-0 that noob anytime"... shame..
GL w/ finding out who these hidden players are..
Come out of closet u mofo's!
So rediculous to have hidden aka's - -v
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On May 18 2007 21:00 Darki[Per] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2007 19:17 Nal_CrayOn wrote:On May 18 2007 11:27 Darki[Per] wrote:
btw my friend LG)Rage won 2-0 vs day and now he find that those games were removed rofl
have proof? cuz it is a clearly abusing if it's true. i hope not because i already had some bs experiences from his smurf id. i do have proof i have those reps but im too lazy to make a special forum of that and lg)rage dont have a decent english to defend himself so whatever LG)Rage won vs top 1 z from usa kk ? Peru pwn 8D
Just go to " setting " and click on "make a complaint for a 1v1 game " upload rep :O it's that simple ;P
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On May 18 2007 21:00 Darki[Per] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2007 19:17 Nal_CrayOn wrote:On May 18 2007 11:27 Darki[Per] wrote:
btw my friend LG)Rage won 2-0 vs day and now he find that those games were removed rofl
have proof? cuz it is a clearly abusing if it's true. i hope not because i already had some bs experiences from his smurf id. i do have proof i have those reps but im too lazy to make a special forum of that and lg)rage dont have a decent english to defend himself so whatever LG)Rage won vs top 1 z from usa kk ? Peru pwn 8D
myself > peru therefore usa > peru kaka
GGNORE =]
p.s. damn lets keep on topic sorry 
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Maslana is not Draco.
And please Some Canadian confirm who is that ca 100 apm Aqua66 Protoss from Canada
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two hints: Aqua66 is NOT from canada. And his main race is NOT protoss.
Who is Maslana and why are people so sure it isnt draco?
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On May 18 2007 21:00 Darki[Per] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2007 19:17 Nal_CrayOn wrote:On May 18 2007 11:27 Darki[Per] wrote:
btw my friend LG)Rage won 2-0 vs day and now he find that those games were removed rofl
have proof? cuz it is a clearly abusing if it's true. i hope not because i already had some bs experiences from his smurf id. i do have proof i have those reps but im too lazy to make a special forum of that and lg)rage dont have a decent english to defend himself so whatever LG)Rage won vs top 1 z from usa kk ? Peru pwn 8D
why are you posting this here
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On May 19 2007 00:33 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
two hints: Aqua66 is NOT from canada. And his main race is NOT protoss.
Who is Maslana and why are people so sure it isnt draco?
Well I saw three replays where he played protoss and he had canadian flag before...
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egosys = lastshadow.
make it a little obvious
both accounts created on the same day. haha.
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On May 18 2007 18:09 egOsYs wrote:
BenFranklin is.. 3-2?. sMi.Bada is from west. i think he is smi.dada. Ok anyway i really want to find out who lastshadow is. idra/skew/advokate????/korean? he just beat naw-datoby pretty bad from his latest replay.
Bada is not Dada.
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If thats true then he abused.. egosys has wins over lastshadow on wgt.
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On May 19 2007 01:32 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
If thats true then he abused.. egosys has wins over lastshadow on wgt.
No I was just saying because that's how much attention egosys was trying to get for lastshadow.
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G.S)TSAVONGLAH IS TOT)INCONTROL( !!!!!
edit: nvm u got that one 
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mondragon is playing vs cryagain atm;)
mondi won 2-0
keke played protoss.. hmm
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keke's tvz is awesome tho, never seen him pvz yet
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pvz probably good too but not awesome, and dissy can play zvp;)
wierd that he chose P both times vs mondragon.. if i lost first i would play my best mu next game..
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they played twice but both reps are the same one for some reason
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no they are not tt1 hehe, you dl'd the same game twice.
Both games were nice, Keke's pvz is good enough to win any z basically except the few at the top. 20 min games where nobody dominated until the end when Mondagon was just better.
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lol egosys got pretty fuckin owned -_- that's kinda funny ;D
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On May 19 2007 08:56 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
no they are not tt1 hehe, you dl'd the same game twice.
Both games were nice, Keke's pvz is good enough to win any z basically except the few at the top. 20 min games where nobody dominated until the end when Mondagon was just better.
mondy told keke he wouldn't z vs t... so keke played with toss.
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what a shame >_< I am teasing dissy for this!
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real fantasy would lose go 0-3 vs tot)silence( / ut)mana --
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short games, maybe bad day, kidding.
15-3 isnt that bad
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whaaat I dont believe thats fantasy. 0-2 vs silence..
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I don't think so either
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On May 19 2007 09:22 Nal_CrayOn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2007 08:56 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
no they are not tt1 hehe, you dl'd the same game twice.
Both games were nice, Keke's pvz is good enough to win any z basically except the few at the top. 20 min games where nobody dominated until the end when Mondagon was just better. mondy told keke he wouldn't z vs t... so keke played with toss.
i wonder why... is the map bad for zvt or something?
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Aque66 is TT1
Aque66's binds = TT1's binds
Aque66's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters = TT1's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters
FChopin is Mazur
FChopin's binds = Mazur's binds
FChopin's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters = Mazur's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters
+ Mazur and FChopin does mass binds (6,7,8,9) gateway on 12-13 minute
Fantasy1 not real Fantasy
Binds Fantasy1 != binds real Fantasy
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What is keke trying to prove by playing this ladder? He's not getting practice from bashing foreigners. Is this a korean superiority thing?
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koreans can have a lil fun as well Bly. And he has gotten some decent games (obviously could get better with pro team) but I bet he likes playing with his offraces.
He will attract more koreans as word gets out him, zergstory and a few others are playing this.
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Muslana[pG] is MistrZZZ
Short of absence of the Mass Start Binds: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0 (May be masking)
Then Muslana[pG]'s binds = MistrZZZ's binds
Only Muslana[pG] and MistrZZZ have binds (3,4) on Nexus on ~1:20 minute
Mustana[pG] and MistrZZZ like double binds (1,2) on game
replay of comparison: http://www.wgtour.com/upload/tournament/broodwar/9894Reaver_Vs_Mistrzzz.rep
Muslana[pG]'s apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters = MistrZZZ's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters
P.S Sorry for my bad English.
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On May 19 2007 19:21 Nt.Emperor wrote:
Aque66 is TT1
Aque66's binds = TT1's binds
Aque66's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters = TT1's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters
FChopin is Mazur
FChopin's binds = Mazur's binds
FChopin's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters = Mazur's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters
+ Mazur and FChopin does mass binds (6,7,8,9) gateway on 12-13 minute
Fantasy1 not real Fantasy
Binds Fantasy1 != binds real Fantasy
well fchopin looks like mazur to me too because he knew i was random back then when i was in mgz (not too many people knows that)
about tt1 = aque66 i agree too because tt1 stats was so bad and he decided to smurf maybe that is his smurf :p
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On May 19 2007 20:10 Nt.Emperor wrote:Muslana[pG] is MistrZZZ Short of absence of the Mass Start Binds: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0 (May be masking) Then Muslana[pG]'s binds = MistrZZZ's binds Only Muslana[pG] and MistrZZZ have binds (3,4) on Nexus on ~1:20 minute Mustana[pG] and MistrZZZ like double binds (1,2) on game replay of comparison: http://www.wgtour.com/upload/tournament/broodwar/9894Reaver_Vs_Mistrzzz.repMuslana[pG]'s apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters = MistrZZZ's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters P.S Sorry for my bad English.
i also think that is misterzzz + if u look at his clan tag "the_legend"
misterzzz always saying he is legendary toss
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skew[media] abusing.. doubledbeuty laying down his wins..
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harmonical is liquid.daaman
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On May 20 2007 06:16 WastedYouth wrote:who is ClanX17East
some american/canadian from clan x17 that probably sucks
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ClanX17East is Blackdawn... he is not good, he died to me x2 in under 18 minutes.
Manages to lose 6 goons + 1 zeal to 8 rines 1 scv 1 tank and 1 vult w/ mines.
Side note : When does BETA season end? Do points carry over?
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Points doesn't carry over.
Mazur is RememberTheName yes, it's kind of obvious since hes in the MgZ roster with that nick ;O
I don't know who FChopin it but he said I know him so it's some Polish Protoss though.
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I Have 9 replays TT1: TT1 vs Idra (4)m, TT1 vs Legandary (2), TT1 vs nOsAy, TT1 vs Sudden (WGT), TT1 vs puM (WGT)
And 10 replays Aqua66
TT1, +/-, Aqua66, +/-, coincide %
Apm 158 7 148 12 78
Apm, in first 30 sec 227 32 251 29 82
Hotkey_per_minute 22 5 23 7 99
Hotkey in first 30 sec 83 37 97 22 95
Move_per_minute 64 8 57 8 76
Move in first 30 sec 16 6 13 2 91
Select_per_minute 31 5 29 3 94
Select in first 30 sec 22 6 19 2 91
Very good coincidence
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The coinicdence drops down below 90% in 3 of those. And none of them goes above 95%
if it was the same player they would've been around 96-99% all of them.
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iNcontroL
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I know who aqua66 is
Want another clue?
"Coffee Mug"
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is there a player called nescafe that we are not aware of ?
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I know who FChopin is. It's not Mazur ;O
Coffe mug hmm that clue was horrible, give us a new one :O!
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On May 20 2007 07:34 TT1 wrote:
im not aqua66 rofl
U sure ? maybe u don't remember. Anyway if ur not him what's ur aka ?
edit: oh shit, i just dled 5-6 reps of aqua66 thinking it was u...
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On May 20 2007 10:14 FirstBorn wrote:U sure ? maybe u don't remember. Anyway if ur not him what's ur aka ? edit: oh shit, i just dled 5-6 reps of aqua66 thinking it was u...
Why would he say his aka anyways? just to prove you wrong i don't think so...
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sm7 = pro gamer !! lol -_-
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On May 20 2007 13:57 Leejungterran wrote:
sm7 = pro gamer !! lol -_-
For real?
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WGT server load too high ....
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On May 20 2007 09:19 {88}iNcontroL wrote:I know who aqua66 is Want another clue? "Coffee Mug"
It's mym.raven right? :D
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On May 20 2007 20:03 bobalo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2007 09:19 {88}iNcontroL wrote:I know who aqua66 is Want another clue? "Coffee Mug" It's mym.raven right? :D
Thats what he told me but now I think its TT1 >_< but you got my clue right!
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i see more and more koreans on wgtour. awesome
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most of them probably aren't real koreans -_-
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On May 20 2007 21:48 Xeris wrote:
most of them probably aren't real koreans -_-
nah,, i actually helped them out with wgtour guide and stuff in korean. and i've seen [joypop], By., and some other korean guilds. due to the fact that the korean progamer Nal_keke is currently #1, more and more koreans are being interested in wgtour. big props to Nal_keke.
also we gotta give credits to Nal_CrayOn because he made keke to play on wgtour. this is certainly gonna bring many koreans including other korean progamers.
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On May 20 2007 20:17 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2007 20:03 bobalo wrote:On May 20 2007 09:19 {88}iNcontroL wrote:I know who aqua66 is Want another clue? "Coffee Mug" It's mym.raven right? :D Thats what he told me but now I think its TT1 >_< but you got my clue right!
I still dont get it. Explain pls
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In Raven's WGT pic he is wideeyed drinking from a coffee mug. Below it says "raven" funny pic he has had on their for years.
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who's supermachine? he has beaten some good players and winning ratio is quite impressive.
and he plays tvz tvp and zvt as far as I know.
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seems like koreans start to play wgt niice, a lot of them in the channel today ^_^
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On May 21 2007 01:43 GagbOy wrote:
who's supermachine? he has beaten some good players and winning ratio is quite impressive.
and he plays tvz tvp and zvt as far as I know.
My friend told me that it may be really him, former NeO, uT etc American who is known as Machine so I don't consider it as smurf
SM7[Car]
http://www.wgtour.com/member.php?datab=broodwar&id=308042
300++ apm terran
-HE is a member of KOrea [B]. He is korean and mostlikely not a smurf
Would be nice to know his west aka though(if its not the same), he has NSP clan link it the profile.
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but I thought the american Machine plays all zerg? Supermachine has a really good terran..
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But aqua plays Protoss? Didn't think Raven could play P.
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I still think that Aqua may be smuft or oldy or tt1 He had canadian flag and changed to pol (at the same time someone mentioned it here ;p)
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i
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Who is..
The1UpKid... 20-4 Terran user? and he was C1 before he reset again with good stats.. his name is brian.. isnt that Assem's name? i dont know, he's beaten theognis and some other known players..
zZ[inca] 17-0 Terran user, under 200 apm, and talks perfect english.. i dont think he is a korean.. any ideas?
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On May 21 2007 08:39 ViraLBoy wrote:
Who is..
The1UpKid... 20-4 Terran user? and he was C1 before he reset again with good stats.. his name is brian.. isnt that Assem's name? i dont know, he's beaten theognis and some other known players..
Spades. He was in smi as bRoKeN for a while - USA-B player. No, it's not Assem.
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JESUS WHO IS THIS FUCKING AQUA66 FAG
whoever find out i give u oldy's face picture to laugh
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On May 21 2007 08:50 Flaccid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2007 08:39 ViraLBoy wrote:
Who is..
The1UpKid... 20-4 Terran user? and he was C1 before he reset again with good stats.. his name is brian.. isnt that Assem's name? i dont know, he's beaten theognis and some other known players.. Spades. He was in smi as bRoKeN for a while - USA-B player. No, it's not Assem.
oh, why is he on b team, hes really good.
someone told me zZ[inca] is tot)daze( dont know for sure
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n/m it's TT1 99% =]
fucken fag
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lol, TT1 is exposed again!! =]
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On May 20 2007 09:19 {88}iNcontroL wrote:I know who aqua66 is Want another clue? "Coffee Mug"
Coffee mug?? Like the OLD ass ladder champ? Holy flashback!
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TT1 mmm if u see it as a drawing it look almost like a coffee mug without bottom
TT1 mmm almost better
....maybe i should stop Mushroms ...
anyway no1 got a clue for sonyo ?
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On May 21 2007 06:08 TT1 wrote:
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aqua
66
Dude, don't worry... I still love you !
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wgtour is so unstable
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On May 21 2007 12:25 FirstBorn wrote:Dude, don't worry... I still love you !
SO ... him or not him ? TT1, stop playing games if yes
And yeah Capo, Wgtour doesn't keep up with teh pressure, during sunday leagues it was impossible to work with it
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yes its me but seriously fuck off with these threads, some people dont want their akas to be known
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"Maslana[pG] : MIstrZZZ"
rofl, and some peaple were saying Maslana was Draco? lolololol
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MIstrZZZ is good ,,,, no joke.
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On May 21 2007 14:28 TT1 wrote:
yes its me but seriously fuck off with these threads, some people dont want their akas to be known
FUCK THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KNOW THOSE AKAS!
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On May 21 2007 14:17 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:oooh shit, he's back.
lol
soon, beggarterran's record's gonna exceed more than 2000 games.
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its probably not him though...
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On May 21 2007 15:56 CapO wrote:lol soon, beggarterran's record's gonna exceed more than 2000 games.
Its some Bulgarian geezer.
ANd rofl @Incontrol and TT1 :D The guys that are almost the most contributing now dislike it. Blasphemy ;p
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On May 21 2007 15:56 CapO wrote:lol soon, beggarterran's record's gonna exceed more than 2000 games.
btw I highly doubt it. Beggar got pretty sick towards the end of PGT and WGT is not yet on the level of what PGT was (especially during the hours he played). If he came here he would be pretty dominating (except for Keke of course). The word is spreading, we will see more koreans I hope. Need the regular season to have Keke/Zergstory and some new ones playing again to spark that ladder interest in the korean world.
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Need to know who are TheNewPlayer and 1st... looks like they are pretty good kor..
and for iNcontroL dont worry many pro will try wgtour, sooner or later
Sorry for bad english :p
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On May 21 2007 16:57 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Lemon... sigh.
My thoughts exactly.
And to the person above me (sorry I am forgetful with names...) I hope you are right. May it be like the first and second seasons of PGT... ah, good times!
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Who's supermachine, currently rank 2? I think I could've almost taken a game off him yesterday (both C4) after a quick sunk break (1 sunk :D), but I neglected to bring my second group of mnm along when he had only drones and lings defending. Shortly afterwards his muta harass kapwned me, leading to an endgame where I just got thoroughly outclassed
Edit: should've searched the thread first.
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i rly doubt its the american machine
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he absolutely is not the american machine, we dont need to even speculate. He is a one race user who is nice and all but nowhere near that level. Let alone with T/P.
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smurfs will change their acc after beta season is over anyway...
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Gut instinct and hotkeys = it might be gosi[desire]
One of his akas on pgt was SuperKorean and he was a high lvl player who played zvt instead of tvt, so could be him and his tvz hotkeys atleast are right on with that of supermachine.
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Maslana[pG] isn't MIStrZZZ since they both are on top positions? Maslana[pG] currently #28 and xLo.MIStrZZZ #37.
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Same race, same win/loss ratio So it is possible, he plays like crazy
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Well.. finally Supermachine and Sonyo seem to be korean.. and zZ[InCa] does meca (full of goliaths) vs Z which makes his tvz impressive and kinda funny
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i must thank the guy that write the korean wgt guide for bringing all those laggers to play this ladder !
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zZ[InCa] is a really crazy and scary t.. that mech strat is like a log in the opponents rectum! horrible!
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CruiseR
Poland4014 Posts
On May 22 2007 04:24 Dewis wrote:
Maslana[pG] isn't MIStrZZZ since they both are on top positions? Maslana[pG] currently #28 and xLo.MIStrZZZ #37.
ez
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On May 22 2007 06:40 tehsex wrote:
i must thank the guy that write the korean wgt guide for bringing all those laggers to play this ladder !
lolol
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On May 22 2007 06:40 tehsex wrote:
i must thank the guy that write the korean wgt guide for bringing all those laggers to play this ladder !
koreans dont lag, its ze chinese...
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supermachine = ajtls[S.O]
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microgamerez is aqua66 i gave acc to friend and he changed id name ;p
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On May 22 2007 10:20 TesisMech wrote:
supermachine = ajtls[S.O]
I have my doubts about that
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On May 21 2007 14:28 TT1 wrote:
yes its me but seriously fuck off with these threads, some people dont want their akas to be known
Seriously, i can't understand the point of being hidden in a public ladder. No offense at all, but in every other sports, you know the name of the players and i don't know what you're trying to hide with that behabiour...
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On May 22 2007 10:50 G.s)NarutO wrote:I have my doubts about that
yes its ajtls i asked him on west and spoke to him on euro
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On May 22 2007 10:56 oHInsane wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2007 14:28 TT1 wrote:
yes its me but seriously fuck off with these threads, some people dont want their akas to be known Seriously, i can't understand the point of being hidden in a public ladder. No offense at all, but in every other sports, you know the name of the players and i don't know what you're trying to hide with that behabiour...
so i dont worry about winning/losing with people posting reps
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On May 22 2007 10:59 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2007 10:50 G.s)NarutO wrote:On May 22 2007 10:20 TesisMech wrote:
supermachine = ajtls[S.O] I have my doubts about that yes its ajtls i asked him on west and spoke to him on euro
Ok ;o doubts are ok as long as its not like "OMFG FUCKING LIAR" and stuff, though.
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real season starts at what time?
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On May 22 2007 11:52 Shauni wrote:
real season starts at what time?
yeah, when does it start? theres no news about it
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beta season suppose to last for a week right? After this beta season ends, they're probably gonna fix some things and then launch the real ladder in a week or so.
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I am not hiding myself what so ever. Nony knows who i am, i lose to him alot. Lastgosu knows of me im pretty sure. And ZpuX knows me. Im just an attempting Terran to get very very good. However due to recent spam from my account, i had to reset/change ID... so gay.
To clear things up: I am not Idra. I am not Skew. I am not Advocate. I am lastshadow/ShadOw[Siege]. I am really 14. I am in the USA. I am Terran. I do have 250 APM. I am a super pressure oriented terran. Now stop msging me.
EDIT : Just because i beat TT1;Zpux;datoby;lastgosu ( off-wgt). Does not make me Idra or Skew. Or for that matter some "fake-korean".
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On May 22 2007 12:42 lastshadow wrote:I am not hiding myself what so ever. Nony knows who i am, i lose to him alot. Lastgosu knows of me im pretty sure. And ZpuX knows me. Im just an attempting Terran to get very very good. However due to recent spam from my account, i had to reset/change ID... so gay. To clear things up: I am not Idra. I am not Skew. I am not Advocate. I am lastshadow/ShadOw[Siege]. I am really 14. I am in the USA. I am Terran. I do have 250 APM. I am a super pressure oriented terran. Now stop msging me. EDIT : Just because i beat TT1;Zpux;datoby;lastgosu ( off-wgt). Does not make me Idra or Skew. Or for that matter some "fake-korean".
are you skew?
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On May 22 2007 13:03 littlechava wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2007 12:42 lastshadow wrote:I am not hiding myself what so ever. Nony knows who i am, i lose to him alot. Lastgosu knows of me im pretty sure. And ZpuX knows me. Im just an attempting Terran to get very very good. However due to recent spam from my account, i had to reset/change ID... so gay. To clear things up: I am not Idra. I am not Skew. I am not Advocate. I am lastshadow/ShadOw[Siege]. I am really 14. I am in the USA. I am Terran. I do have 250 APM. I am a super pressure oriented terran. Now stop msging me. EDIT : Just because i beat TT1;Zpux;datoby;lastgosu ( off-wgt). Does not make me Idra or Skew. Or for that matter some "fake-korean". are you skew?
LOL
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really want to know who zZ[InCa] is..
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Russian Federation18 Posts
eassay = 3D.NotForu
eassay's binds = 3D.NotForu's binds
eassay's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters = 3D.NotForu's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters
Ogogo[Inca] not real Ogogo
Ogogo[Inca]'s binds != Ogogo's binds
Ogogo[Inca]'s apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters != Ogogo's apm, hotkeys, moves, select parameters
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On May 22 2007 12:42 lastshadow wrote:I am not hiding myself what so ever. Nony knows who i am, i lose to him alot. Lastgosu knows of me im pretty sure. And ZpuX knows me. Im just an attempting Terran to get very very good. However due to recent spam from my account, i had to reset/change ID... so gay. To clear things up: I am not Idra. I am not Skew. I am not Advocate. I am lastshadow/ShadOw[Siege]. I am really 14. I am in the USA. I am Terran. I do have 250 APM. I am a super pressure oriented terran. Now stop msging me. EDIT : Just because i beat TT1;Zpux;datoby;lastgosu ( off-wgt). Does not make me Idra or Skew. Or for that matter some "fake-korean".
seriously who care ?
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well that one guy was just DYING to know earlier so he decided to bring back up the fact that he doesn't want any attention!
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On May 22 2007 13:06 lastshadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2007 13:03 littlechava wrote:On May 22 2007 12:42 lastshadow wrote:I am not hiding myself what so ever. Nony knows who i am, i lose to him alot. Lastgosu knows of me im pretty sure. And ZpuX knows me. Im just an attempting Terran to get very very good. However due to recent spam from my account, i had to reset/change ID... so gay. To clear things up: I am not Idra. I am not Skew. I am not Advocate. I am lastshadow/ShadOw[Siege]. I am really 14. I am in the USA. I am Terran. I do have 250 APM. I am a super pressure oriented terran. Now stop msging me. EDIT : Just because i beat TT1;Zpux;datoby;lastgosu ( off-wgt). Does not make me Idra or Skew. Or for that matter some "fake-korean". are you skew? LOL
It's kind of hard for him to be me, seeing as I'm using Skew[Media]?
And fuck yea I'm abusing. JESUS, POINTS R GR9
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On May 22 2007 15:28 Skew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2007 13:06 lastshadow wrote:On May 22 2007 13:03 littlechava wrote:On May 22 2007 12:42 lastshadow wrote:I am not hiding myself what so ever. Nony knows who i am, i lose to him alot. Lastgosu knows of me im pretty sure. And ZpuX knows me. Im just an attempting Terran to get very very good. However due to recent spam from my account, i had to reset/change ID... so gay. To clear things up: I am not Idra. I am not Skew. I am not Advocate. I am lastshadow/ShadOw[Siege]. I am really 14. I am in the USA. I am Terran. I do have 250 APM. I am a super pressure oriented terran. Now stop msging me. EDIT : Just because i beat TT1;Zpux;datoby;lastgosu ( off-wgt). Does not make me Idra or Skew. Or for that matter some "fake-korean". are you skew? LOL It's kind of hard for him to be me, seeing as I'm using Skew[Media]? And fuck yea I'm abusing. JESUS, POINTS R GR9
are you lastshadow?
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On May 22 2007 12:25 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
who is zz[inca]
Looks like some Korean higher class amateur
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
think league is over. Hope next season starts soon This has been great!
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
nm it seems to be still going o_O
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On May 22 2007 12:42 lastshadow wrote:I am not hiding myself what so ever. Nony knows who i am, i lose to him alot. Lastgosu knows of me im pretty sure. And ZpuX knows me. Im just an attempting Terran to get very very good. However due to recent spam from my account, i had to reset/change ID... so gay. To clear things up: I am not Idra. I am not Skew. I am not Advocate. I am lastshadow/ShadOw[Siege]. I am really 14. I am in the USA. I am Terran. I do have 250 APM. I am a super pressure oriented terran. Now stop msging me. EDIT : Just because i beat TT1;Zpux;datoby;lastgosu ( off-wgt). Does not make me Idra or Skew. Or for that matter some "fake-korean".
you beat lastgosus protoss stfu
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On May 22 2007 16:03 zulu_nation8 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2007 12:42 lastshadow wrote:I am not hiding myself what so ever. Nony knows who i am, i lose to him alot. Lastgosu knows of me im pretty sure. And ZpuX knows me. Im just an attempting Terran to get very very good. However due to recent spam from my account, i had to reset/change ID... so gay. To clear things up: I am not Idra. I am not Skew. I am not Advocate. I am lastshadow/ShadOw[Siege]. I am really 14. I am in the USA. I am Terran. I do have 250 APM. I am a super pressure oriented terran. Now stop msging me. EDIT : Just because i beat TT1;Zpux;datoby;lastgosu ( off-wgt). Does not make me Idra or Skew. Or for that matter some "fake-korean". you beat lastgosus protoss stfu
Yeah no fucking shit. Sorry i didnt go into EPIC detail you flaming bm asshole. Seriously must you view and analyze every post to where it is almost retarded? You sir are retarded. Im going to stop this flame war now. Dont reply to this like i know you will, because your ignorant and easily tempered.
I have much respect for lastgosu.
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On May 22 2007 16:40 lastshadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2007 16:03 zulu_nation8 wrote:On May 22 2007 12:42 lastshadow wrote:I am not hiding myself what so ever. Nony knows who i am, i lose to him alot. Lastgosu knows of me im pretty sure. And ZpuX knows me. Im just an attempting Terran to get very very good. However due to recent spam from my account, i had to reset/change ID... so gay. To clear things up: I am not Idra. I am not Skew. I am not Advocate. I am lastshadow/ShadOw[Siege]. I am really 14. I am in the USA. I am Terran. I do have 250 APM. I am a super pressure oriented terran. Now stop msging me. EDIT : Just because i beat TT1;Zpux;datoby;lastgosu ( off-wgt). Does not make me Idra or Skew. Or for that matter some "fake-korean". you beat lastgosus protoss stfu Yeah no fucking shit. Sorry i didnt go into EPIC detail you flaming bm asshole. Seriously must you view and analyze every post to where it is almost retarded? You sir are retarded. Im going to stop this flame war now. Dont reply to this like i know you will, because your ignorant and easily tempered. I have much respect for lastgosu.
are you sure you aren't skew?
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On May 22 2007 16:45 littlechava wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2007 16:40 lastshadow wrote:On May 22 2007 16:03 zulu_nation8 wrote:On May 22 2007 12:42 lastshadow wrote:I am not hiding myself what so ever. Nony knows who i am, i lose to him alot. Lastgosu knows of me im pretty sure. And ZpuX knows me. Im just an attempting Terran to get very very good. However due to recent spam from my account, i had to reset/change ID... so gay. To clear things up: I am not Idra. I am not Skew. I am not Advocate. I am lastshadow/ShadOw[Siege]. I am really 14. I am in the USA. I am Terran. I do have 250 APM. I am a super pressure oriented terran. Now stop msging me. EDIT : Just because i beat TT1;Zpux;datoby;lastgosu ( off-wgt). Does not make me Idra or Skew. Or for that matter some "fake-korean". you beat lastgosus protoss stfu Yeah no fucking shit. Sorry i didnt go into EPIC detail you flaming bm asshole. Seriously must you view and analyze every post to where it is almost retarded? You sir are retarded. Im going to stop this flame war now. Dont reply to this like i know you will, because your ignorant and easily tempered. I have much respect for lastgosu. are you sure you aren't skew?
LOL, you sir are great.
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guys ... let's end the debate now.
I'm Skew.
gg.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On May 22 2007 16:40 lastshadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2007 16:03 zulu_nation8 wrote:On May 22 2007 12:42 lastshadow wrote:I am not hiding myself what so ever. Nony knows who i am, i lose to him alot. Lastgosu knows of me im pretty sure. And ZpuX knows me. Im just an attempting Terran to get very very good. However due to recent spam from my account, i had to reset/change ID... so gay. To clear things up: I am not Idra. I am not Skew. I am not Advocate. I am lastshadow/ShadOw[Siege]. I am really 14. I am in the USA. I am Terran. I do have 250 APM. I am a super pressure oriented terran. Now stop msging me. EDIT : Just because i beat TT1;Zpux;datoby;lastgosu ( off-wgt). Does not make me Idra or Skew. Or for that matter some "fake-korean". you beat lastgosus protoss stfu Yeah no fucking shit. Sorry i didnt go into EPIC detail you flaming bm asshole. Seriously must you view and analyze every post to where it is almost retarded? You sir are retarded. Im going to stop this flame war now. Dont reply to this like i know you will, because your ignorant and easily tempered. I have much respect for lastgosu.
DONT NOT TALK TO LASTGOSU'S WUFAN LIKE THAT!
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On May 22 2007 17:00 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2007 16:40 lastshadow wrote:On May 22 2007 16:03 zulu_nation8 wrote:On May 22 2007 12:42 lastshadow wrote:I am not hiding myself what so ever. Nony knows who i am, i lose to him alot. Lastgosu knows of me im pretty sure. And ZpuX knows me. Im just an attempting Terran to get very very good. However due to recent spam from my account, i had to reset/change ID... so gay. To clear things up: I am not Idra. I am not Skew. I am not Advocate. I am lastshadow/ShadOw[Siege]. I am really 14. I am in the USA. I am Terran. I do have 250 APM. I am a super pressure oriented terran. Now stop msging me. EDIT : Just because i beat TT1;Zpux;datoby;lastgosu ( off-wgt). Does not make me Idra or Skew. Or for that matter some "fake-korean". you beat lastgosus protoss stfu Yeah no fucking shit. Sorry i didnt go into EPIC detail you flaming bm asshole. Seriously must you view and analyze every post to where it is almost retarded? You sir are retarded. Im going to stop this flame war now. Dont reply to this like i know you will, because your ignorant and easily tempered. I have much respect for lastgosu. DONT NOT TALK TO LASTGOSU'S WUFAN LIKE THAT!
LOL <3
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On May 22 2007 16:55 Xeris wrote:
guys ... let's end the debate now.
I'm Skew.
gg.
OMG XERIS! I NEVER KNEW! 1;1?
Didn't know Skew played protoss. wow
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i take insult to that comment
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On May 22 2007 17:07 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i take insult to that comment
Then i apologize. I am sorry. Please dont bad manner me then. I never intended to start a flame war with you.
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fuck off i was talking to incontrol
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On May 22 2007 17:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
fuck off i was talking to incontrol
<3
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more and more korean play wgtour now
seriously all people who talk or know good korean player should start talk about wgtour.
that the only way bring korean in wgtour .
because most korean still dont know wgtour .
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Completely off topic. When does this season end.
I want to get my lastshadow name back -.- and start gaming again. It was so gay how much i got spammed.
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Season was supposed to be done today... there is no post so who knows O_O;
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On May 22 2007 17:19 lastshadow wrote:
Completely off topic. When does this season end.
I want to get my lastshadow name back -.- and start gaming again. It was so gay how much i got spammed.
umm,, nobody accused u of being skew, idra or some other terran, except for ur friend. sry but stop posting stuff like , no im not skew, and heres about me: i have 250apm terran age 15 i own bunch of gosus like TT1 and lastgosu. im awesome pressure terran but dont' call me skew or idra yes i know i'm as good as them thx
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The only thing im sure of.. is that lastshadow is really 14 -.-
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WGTour killed the Who's Who in Abyss thread in 2 days lol
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i thought the ladder will be reset today .. ;D
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Wow this lastshadow character sure is annoying :[
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On May 23 2007 07:33 Shiva_Chandra wrote:
Wow this lastshadow character sure is annoying :[
the kid is annoying as hell, and i can bust him if i want to,,, easily
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They can't really launch a real season until they solve the server load thing. I Think that Blizzard should contribute financially so WGT could afford better server
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CruiseR
Poland4014 Posts
WGTour admin InKline said on netwars.pl that WGTour Beta Season will last some more time (no one knows how long will it be) because Beta Season has not catched all problems yet.
They want to be sure all is fine before running WGT Season 14 instead of changing and resolving problems during the right season.
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On May 23 2007 06:26 Elsi wrote:
WGTour killed the Who's Who in Abyss thread in 2 days lol
well.. it was pretty easy to understand that Abyss would sorta die when WGT came back
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hopefully season will start soon, but there are issues that we need to solve such as some annoying bugs... and the issue with server overloading.
but in the team time... you might as well play the beta... it's about getting games, not about the rank, right?
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On May 23 2007 09:22 Xeris wrote:
hopefully season will start soon, but there are issues that we need to solve such as some annoying bugs... and the issue with server overloading.
but in the team time... you might as well play the beta... it's about getting games, not about the rank, right?
incorrect. YOU GOT 3 DAYS XERIS UNDERSTOOD? after 3 days i cant be held responsible for my actions
edit : i might extend it to 1 week cus we persian brothers o..o
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is nal_keke from wgtour and from west the progamer ?
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TheCruise[InCa] = TheCruise[GsP] ???
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For those who said no one asked me if was skew/idra :
READ THE THREAD. egosys is not my friend he is some annoying person who spamed on wgt for games.
Side note : I never said i was as good as them. Im not trying to be annoying. I was messaged 15+ times in my mailbox on WGT asking who i was... ok?
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i heard TT1 lost to lastshadow... :D
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On May 23 2007 10:20 lastshadow wrote:
For those who said no one asked me if was skew/idra :
READ THE THREAD. egosys is not my friend he is some annoying person who spamed on wgt for games.
Side note : I never said i was as good as them. Im not trying to be annoying. I was messaged 15+ times in my mailbox on WGT asking who i was... ok?
Ya and now no one cares, so stop talkin about it
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On May 23 2007 10:20 lastshadow wrote:
For those who said no one asked me if was skew/idra :
READ THE THREAD. egosys is not my friend he is some annoying person who spamed on wgt for games.
Side note : I never said i was as good as them. Im not trying to be annoying. I was messaged 15+ times in my mailbox on WGT asking who i was... ok?
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST SHUT UR GODDAMN YAP FOR FUX SACK NO ONE GIVES A FUCK WHO U FUCKING ARE AND NO ONE WANTS TO KNOW WHO THE FUCK U ARE
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Hes only 14. Be a lil more kind to his young self. And keep him away from Chibi.
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heheh i think he wants fame so bad hes dillusional
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lmao TT1, he raped you though
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On May 23 2007 11:56 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Hes only 14. Be a lil more kind to his young self. And keep him away from Chibi.
ahahaah
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Why so many posts about some unknown blank kid?
Why don't you discuss that ZZ[Inca] lost to some brazilian that fe's pvt the shit out of him
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who is lastshadow on wgt anyway?
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who cares who he is, he's probably some shitty american terran who never got good on their own aka so theyre making a new id using their age to help them get known like ig.fenix.
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On May 23 2007 11:59 Cowboy wrote:
lmao TT1, he raped you though
sitting on my cliff for 20 minutes in a tvp on loginus isnt rape and when he actually achieves something in tournaments or even gets a decent rank on wgt he can come back here and open his mouth, i suggest that instead of spreading his awesome bw knowledge by writing tvp guides(thread name cracked me up "LastShadow tvp guide", fucking attention whore) when he has no clue of wat hes doing that he should focus more on his game so he doesnt get 3-0ed by merz(love u still)
maybe im being too bm but i dont care, i kept coming back on this thread and i always saw his posts but i didnt want to give him any extra attention with a response but reading his posts about how popular he is which forced him to give up his wgt acc or how he cant handle being pmed on wgtour anymore cus he just so famous or how he beat gosu players but shouldnt be compared to idra or skew or how he setup his friend to come ask about his aka on this thread to so he could get some attention or how he makes a guide called LastShadow's tvp guide so he can copy daze and inc's guides(again to get attention) was so fucking annoying that i couldnt hold it in anymore
i.e LastShadow
"I am not hiding myself what so ever. Nony knows who i am, i lose to him alot. Lastgosu knows of me im pretty sure. And ZpuX knows me. Im just an attempting Terran to get very very good. However due to recent spam from my account, i had to reset/change ID... so gay."
hush plz
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aha... i bet he is ambrosia
that guy disapeared
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Lol I knew lastshadow from west T_T;; I stomped him TvT and ZvP and I got called lucky 8( Thats kind of funny when I don't play zerg or terran.
edit: I don't think he's ambro, that guy used to be pretty good ;; (didn't he get caught maphacking?)
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On May 23 2007 11:56 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Hes only 14. Be a lil more kind to his young self. And keep him away from Chibi.
if anything we should lock him in a room with chibi, maybe then he'll learn to keep his mouth shut
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On May 23 2007 12:39 littlechava wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2007 11:56 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Hes only 14. Be a lil more kind to his young self. And keep him away from Chibi. if anything we should lock him in a room with chibi, maybe then he'll learn to keep his mouth shut
hahahahahah couldn't have said it better myself.
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haha, maybe this kid is trying too hard to be known eh?
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On May 23 2007 12:07 LemOn wrote:Why so many posts about some unknown blank kid? Why don't you discuss that ZZ[Inca] lost to some brazilian that fe's pvt the shit out of him
Brazilians are getting used to own Koreans XD
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Seriously now, zGt (Shady's team) is the strongest team in Brazil, if they could take it serious they would reach nice ranks.
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On May 23 2007 12:18 TT1 wrote:sitting on my cliff for 20 minutes in a tvp on loginus isnt rape and when he actually achieves something in tournaments or even gets a decent rank on wgt he can come back here and open his mouth, i suggest that instead of spreading his awesome bw knowledge by writing tvp guides(thread name cracked me up "LastShadow tvp guide", fucking attention whore) when he has no clue of wat hes doing that he should focus more on his game so he doesnt get 3-0ed by merz(love u still) maybe im being too bm but i dont care, i kept coming back on this thread and i always saw his posts but i didnt want to give him any extra attention with a response but reading his posts about how popular he is which forced him to give up his wgt acc or how he cant handle being pmed on wgtour anymore cus he just so famous or how he beat gosu players but shouldnt be compared to idra or skew or how he setup his friend to come ask about his aka on this thread to so he could get some attention or how he makes a guide called LastShadow's tvp guide so he can copy daze and inc's guides(again to get attention) was so fucking annoying that i couldnt hold it in anymore i.e LastShadow "I am not hiding myself what so ever. Nony knows who i am, i lose to him alot. Lastgosu knows of me im pretty sure. And ZpuX knows me. Im just an attempting Terran to get very very good. However due to recent spam from my account, i had to reset/change ID... so gay." hush plz
atleast he didnt have 2 hack 2 finally get attention like u
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wait who hacked? am i missing something?
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On May 23 2007 13:09 NerO wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2007 12:18 TT1 wrote:On May 23 2007 11:59 Cowboy wrote:
lmao TT1, he raped you though sitting on my cliff for 20 minutes in a tvp on loginus isnt rape and when he actually achieves something in tournaments or even gets a decent rank on wgt he can come back here and open his mouth, i suggest that instead of spreading his awesome bw knowledge by writing tvp guides(thread name cracked me up "LastShadow tvp guide", fucking attention whore) when he has no clue of wat hes doing that he should focus more on his game so he doesnt get 3-0ed by merz(love u still) maybe im being too bm but i dont care, i kept coming back on this thread and i always saw his posts but i didnt want to give him any extra attention with a response but reading his posts about how popular he is which forced him to give up his wgt acc or how he cant handle being pmed on wgtour anymore cus he just so famous or how he beat gosu players but shouldnt be compared to idra or skew or how he setup his friend to come ask about his aka on this thread to so he could get some attention or how he makes a guide called LastShadow's tvp guide so he can copy daze and inc's guides(again to get attention) was so fucking annoying that i couldnt hold it in anymore i.e LastShadow "I am not hiding myself what so ever. Nony knows who i am, i lose to him alot. Lastgosu knows of me im pretty sure. And ZpuX knows me. Im just an attempting Terran to get very very good. However due to recent spam from my account, i had to reset/change ID... so gay." hush plz atleast he didnt have 2 hack 2 finally get attention like u
atleast i never fucking sucked as much u did fucking piece of shit
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Yes he hacked. He doesnt now, in fact hes a very fine player now.
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Can we get back on topic here, TT1 take your flamewar somewhere else.
Anyone know who TheNewPlayer (Korean flag) is currently number 3 on the ladder?
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You're suggesting getting 3-0:ed by merz is a bad thing? Now i'm hurting TT1
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Iraq1230 Posts
does 1.15 have antihack-software?
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tt1 u arent good enough to have such an attitude
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On May 23 2007 15:12 haypro wrote:
does 1.15 have antihack-software?
no.
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On May 23 2007 14:43 meRz wrote:You're suggesting getting 3-0:ed by merz is a bad thing? Now i'm hurting TT1
no! i put something in the parentheses before to sooth the hurt
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TT1 you look pretty stupid with these posts. You should cool off a little, before more gems like "NO U" and "STFU NEWB I OWN U SO HARD EVEN THOUGH I LOST TO YOU" come out of your mouth.
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mannnnnnnnn
i'm fan of zz[inca]
i wanna be good!
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i know Sasin)reason is someone with korean plag @ WGT.. dunno who.
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lol
inca lost to zGt.Shady
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whose this TheNewPlayer ;D
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tt1 when i was "sucking" u were hacking a free ladder... n yes i suck national finalist 3years in a row was all luck all 3 times, u have a huge ego dont fucking dish it if u cant take it
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I cheer for NerO!
ppl get too uptight about this game - - v
it's one thing to win/lose and I can even understand getting caught up in losses, as they are inevitable - but hey, who really cares?
No ones going anywhere w/ this game.. No ones going to make any money playing BW. Not enough to worth a damn.. not enough to pay ur bills
Should enjoy the game for the game.
GL
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COuld u forbid TT1 and some others to post in this who is who thread ?
Thx
Severs down.. looking forward to the real season :D
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omg stop talking about tt1...
LeeJones[LP] aka lookmomnohands = Assem
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On May 23 2007 23:38 Sosha wrote:
I cheer for NerO!
ppl get too uptight about this game - - v
it's one thing to win/lose and I can even understand getting caught up in losses, as they are inevitable - but hey, who really cares?
No ones going anywhere w/ this game.. No ones going to make any money playing BW. Not enough to worth a damn.. not enough to pay ur bills
Should enjoy the game for the game.
GL
Best thing said ever.
If you look close enough, you'll find everyone has a weakspot.
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On May 23 2007 18:10 NerO wrote:
tt1 when i was "sucking" u were hacking a free ladder... n yes i suck national finalist 3years in a row was all luck all 3 times, u have a huge ego dont fucking dish it if u cant take it
what ladder might this be u idiot, i suggest if u dont have the facts right to not speak at all and i have no ego at all i just speak my mouth unlike all these ass kissers on tl
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Come on guys, us fucking ass kissers don't care about what you should solve personally.
On May 23 2007 17:18 KhresT wrote:
i know Sasin)reason is someone with korean plag @ WGT.. dunno who.
You know it just because he does it all the time or you really have some clue ?
He can be even that pts guy who owned ZZ[Inca] in that stunning PvT ( Really worth watching.
And on the range of americans who is uglytoss
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Ya - would be be "UglyToss", haven't really payed any attention to his games or style, but noticed from nowhere that he jumped up to top 20 w/ like 23-2 or something pretty impressive.
We need more Protoss aka's ^ ^
Someone said MgZ)ieFNaij was playing.. someone thought it was Sonyo, but I doubt it. Sonyo plays a lot of TvZ and why would jianfei play TvZ when he's a Protoss player ^ ^
2 showmatches of equal importance and relativity:
LastShadOw v 88)ArchoNs / JianFei - both being like 14 yrs old and at least JianFei is good
TT1 v NerO !! - we all know why ;D
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jianfei plays pure toss and would blow t/z vs X. If he is playing WGT it is a pure P player.
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On May 24 2007 08:56 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2007 18:10 NerO wrote:
tt1 when i was "sucking" u were hacking a free ladder... n yes i suck national finalist 3years in a row was all luck all 3 times, u have a huge ego dont fucking dish it if u cant take it what ladder might this be u idiot, i suggest if u dont have the facts right to not speak at all and i have no ego at all i just speak my mouth unlike all these ass kissers on tl
ok mayb u werent playing the ladder but u got kicked outta rS. i kno for hacking .... and since it wasnt for money that u cheated for, then u were cheating to make others think u were better then u actually were. and i guess since u dont have an ego and u still act this way then ur jus a piece of shit
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STOP IT KIDS Please seriously try to pm, find each other on msn or create some flame thread but posting this is madness.
ThinkAboutIt is definitely some Korean, has high eapm and plays the gay style many korean tosses do ( Like he starts 2 gate zeal and expands with 10 canons afterwards, plays that pure sair/dt fast expand with two stargates etc, he is very entertaining as far as I saw his PvP with the chinese guy he lost to because of rush his one game and one PvZ against Moonshine, nice games)
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Rofl :D Somebody just tell admins to ban Aqua66. Now its obvious why TT1 doesn't want his aka to be known lol
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can anyone enter the wgt site atm? i havent been able for the last 1-2 hours..
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On May 24 2007 11:17 Sosha wrote:Ya - would be be "UglyToss", haven't really payed any attention to his games or style, but noticed from nowhere that he jumped up to top 20 w/ like 23-2 or something pretty impressive. We need more Protoss aka's ^ ^ Someone said MgZ)ieFNaij was playing.. someone thought it was Sonyo, but I doubt it. Sonyo plays a lot of TvZ and why would jianfei play TvZ when he's a Protoss player ^ ^ 2 showmatches of equal importance and relativity: LastShadOw v 88)ArchoNs / JianFei - both being like 14 yrs old and at least JianFei is good TT1 v NerO !! - we all know why ;D
shadow is horrible, why would u even have him play jianfei?
should be like mgz)bh vs jianfei both same age and both actually good.
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he dosent hack anymore, stop being babies. think if he still hacked he wouldn't of been found out by now?
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On May 24 2007 13:10 LemOn wrote:
Rofl :D Somebody just tell admins to ban Aqua66. Now its obvious why TT1 doesn't want his aka to be known lol
sorry my retarded czech friend do u think i was smurfing cus i was banned from wgt ? this story is 3 years old and every "old" player knows and i even admitted to it, tehsex find my post were i said i didnt hack with rs.tt1 to support ur last post and nero ur a fucking no name faggot that just has a mouth u dirty cuntrag
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nono... the thing is tt1 said he didnt hack in a ladder and wgt never used to ban ppl that hacked in other events, they just started to. even his current wgt acc, mgz tt1, says he received amniesty for a ban.
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eh.. and admiting that u hack is really hilarious. its like " ok u cought me hacking ! i confess : i hack ! "
oh and dont brag about the fact that u r famous... skills matter and achievements. he qualified 3 times for wcg in _USA_ , u.... did what ?
and correction, u are known, not famous.
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On May 24 2007 13:52 tehsex wrote:
nono... the thing is tt1 said he didnt hack in a ladder and wgt never used to ban ppl that hacked in other events, they just started to. even his current wgt acc, mgz tt1, says he received amniesty for a ban.
it wasnt a ladder it was wgtcl rs. vs lrm) and i got banned for it then 2 years later they unbanned me thats why i received an amnesty
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On May 24 2007 13:54 tehsex wrote:
eh.. and admiting that u hack is really hilarious. its like " ok u cought me hacking ! i confess : i hack ! "
huh ? should i have been like no u fuckers are all wrong and i didnt gg bye ? and most of ur beloved players did hack at a time or another during their bw career, its funny to see when this matter came up how all of u started jumping on this topic, its ok
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no... but why even confess ? "doh ! we banned you ! we know u hack !"
maybe u wanted to say that u apologised for hacking ... or something
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man what the heck are you guys even saying? that's like getting on Testie's ass for hacking...
It was fucking a long time ago, and from the looks of he guys who are whining about this, you probably didn't even know TL.net existed, or what WGTCL or WGT was when TT1 was hacking.
so seriously, its a long dead issue, so let it be =o
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On May 24 2007 13:46 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2007 13:10 LemOn wrote:
Rofl :D Somebody just tell admins to ban Aqua66. Now its obvious why TT1 doesn't want his aka to be known lol sorry my retarded czech friend do u think i was smurfing cus i was banned from wgt ? this story is 3 years old and every "old" player knows and i even admitted to it, tehsex find my post were i said i didnt hack with rs.tt1 to support ur last post and nero ur a fucking no name faggot that just has a mouth u dirty cuntrag
TT1 I was joking. Thus 'rofl, smiley and lol' in the sentence.
I really don't know if you are complexed, have your period or your life sux but please please try not to try to interpret the state of your mind by using this kind of language and insults towards people that don't even know you and you know nothing about.
Regards, LemOn.
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I heard iloveoov was a hacker before BoxeR took him under his wing.
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Many respectable players were hacking at some point in the ancient times ( Yo people remember BIgBalls Quote? :D). It actually is a good way to improve timing without the need of watching replays and in the pre-replay era it was helping you to improve timing very quickly
Most people at least thought about trying to hack just for funny issues and nobody blames them. So yes TT1 I was joking and it was so obvious that nobody but you could be offended by it.
But back to the topick. Who Will bust Sasin)reason, it was said he uses Korean flag. FIrst who finds him will get a candy -,-
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can anyone confirm that supermachine= ajtls[S.O]?
and if so, does he have any other akas? never heard of him and he seems good.
beat some of the other koreans there.
ps: just ban tt1 for all his swearing in this thread
edit: i just realized supermachine's aka was already confirmed. so scratch line one of this post.
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Seriously get off TT1s nuts about the hacking.
Lets just flame everyone else who has been using hack.. Testie, Trek... ?
I don't see anyone going "well....... you hacked! lol gg! flame flame" when they write something.
Stick to the thread!
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i wasnt attacking tt1 for hacking just for talking shit about things people do that he also does/did n tt1 if u plan on representing canada at wcg world u should watch ur fucking mouth so u dont dig a hole 2 deep for u 2 climb out of.
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HOly Moly...Runner up season wgt 1 2v2 :D
Also the girl on the picture is so cute omg
I don't have any xiao zi reps on my pc to compare, can somebody ?
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Alot of You Bw Nerds talk alot of shit Online, sooner or later one of you is gonna get knocked the fuck out at a wcg
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TT1 i got your back against those damn americans  GO CANADA GO!!!!!
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On May 24 2007 18:02 TearsOfTheSun wrote:TT1 i got your back against those damn americans GO CANADA GO!!!!!
aren't u from Ghana? 
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TT1 it's absolutely normal that ex hackers are always accused in hack even if they do not hack more, especially if there are no great LAN rezults. Same as for prisoner is very hard to receive good work even if he completely changed...
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Who is "Sonyo"? His Skill ~ skill_White-Ra, he have very good Micro-Macro, i think he is Draco, who know who is it?
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On May 24 2007 14:41 LemOn wrote:Many respectable players were hacking at some point in the ancient times ( Yo people remember BIgBalls Quote? :D). It actually is a good way to improve timing without the need of watching replays and in the pre-replay era it was helping you to improve timing very quickly Most people at least thought about trying to hack just for funny issues and nobody blames them. So yes TT1 I was joking and it was so obvious that nobody but you could be offended by it. But back to the topick. Who Will bust Sasin)reason, it was said he uses Korean flag. FIrst who finds him will get a candy -,-
like darakian from inf, guy dled hack for 1st time in his life from some silly site, didn't even know how to use it and thus was caught easily - results, angry gg.net nb mob lynched him. sad thing >,<
though better get back to topic, noticed tt1 and company totally switched the topic into flamewars >.<
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On May 25 2007 02:35 Dendra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2007 14:41 LemOn wrote:Many respectable players were hacking at some point in the ancient times ( Yo people remember BIgBalls Quote? :D). It actually is a good way to improve timing without the need of watching replays and in the pre-replay era it was helping you to improve timing very quickly Most people at least thought about trying to hack just for funny issues and nobody blames them. So yes TT1 I was joking and it was so obvious that nobody but you could be offended by it. But back to the topick. Who Will bust Sasin)reason, it was said he uses Korean flag. FIrst who finds him will get a candy -,- like darakian from inf, guy dled hack for 1st time in his life from some silly site, didn't even know how to use it and thus was caught easily - results, angry gg.net nb mob lynched him. sad thing >,< though better get back to topic, noticed tt1 and company totally switched the topic into flamewars >.<
poor guy 
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On May 25 2007 02:02 rick the dangerous wrote:
microgamerez is TT1 no ?
not any more. TT1 said he gave the aqua66 account to a friend who changed it's name to microgamerez.
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On May 25 2007 04:02 FirstBorn wrote:not any more. TT1 said he gave the aqua66 account to a friend who changed it's name to microgamerez.
its obviously still tt1(Arab) hes just trying to pull one over on everyone and when does wgt real season start?
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it starts never.
beta season continues to the end of time
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On May 25 2007 11:11 Xeris wrote:
it starts never.
beta season continues to the end of time
when is "the end of time" ? 1-2 weeks or more ?
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On May 24 2007 14:41 LemOn wrote:Many respectable players were hacking at some point in the ancient times ( Yo people remember BIgBalls Quote? :D). It actually is a good way to improve timing without the need of watching replays and in the pre-replay era it was helping you to improve timing very quickly
well the bigballs quote about naz was naz asking about them to test bw sentinal, and not that many hacked under competitive things as far as i know (the respectable people that is)
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On May 25 2007 02:35 Dendra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2007 14:41 LemOn wrote:Many respectable players were hacking at some point in the ancient times ( Yo people remember BIgBalls Quote? :D). It actually is a good way to improve timing without the need of watching replays and in the pre-replay era it was helping you to improve timing very quickly Most people at least thought about trying to hack just for funny issues and nobody blames them. So yes TT1 I was joking and it was so obvious that nobody but you could be offended by it. But back to the topick. Who Will bust Sasin)reason, it was said he uses Korean flag. FIrst who finds him will get a candy -,- like darakian from inf, guy dled hack for 1st time in his life from some silly site, didn't even know how to use it and thus was caught easily - results, angry gg.net nb mob lynched him. sad thing >,< though better get back to topic, noticed tt1 and company totally switched the topic into flamewars >.<
I feel so sad about him not knowing how to use the hack he downloaded :[
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sonyo says he is kt.mgw)oo3
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thx Inc.... Korean fighting )
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nice to see koreans owning the top 5 of wgt
hopefully more will come and pgt will be semi-reborn~
edit: although i guess some are fake koreans
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thought supermachine was ogogo?
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AAsuited = Shaman
HitMyHeart = Sarens
Ignorance = Omni = ChOseN[LighT]
MYM.striderdoom = Day
Leafs = Iefnaij
zhaohui = Xiaozl
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Who Are you Nt.Emperor? o,o ruiner of aka's? and I'm curios how do u even know chosen[light] = omni? I'm so lost oo;;
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Ignorance = Omni = ChOseN[LighT] rofl?
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Ah come on, emperor is one of the russian replay analysing geniuses that really spend a lot of time and gives effort to find them. HOw do you emperor know to whom to compare is a mystery and you have to have tremendous knowledge of styles.
Really great job sir
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Thats pretty amazing, cuz I dind't use my normal styles for ne of my games. I did "normal builds" just so ppl woudn't know it was me! you must be really good at analyzing games. Lets talk sometime I'm really curios about how u got that lol ^^v
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from looking at the hotkeys in bwchart .... it's really not that hard but u gotta look at a lot of replays i guess
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On May 25 2007 17:09 GiTM.OmNi wrote:
Thats pretty amazing, cuz I dind't use my normal styles for ne of my games. I did "normal builds" just so ppl woudn't know it was me! you must be really good at analyzing games. Lets talk sometime I'm really curios about how u got that lol ^^v
sorry but are you someone well know ? you act like one
any other know aka ?
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On May 25 2007 16:25 Nt.Emperor wrote:
AAsuited = Shaman
HitMyHeart = Sarens
Ignorance = Omni = ChOseN[LighT]
MYM.striderdoom = Day
Leafs = Iefnaij
zhaohui = Xiaozl
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lol..
it's taken weeks for most of us to crack 3-5 ppl and he comes along and blows out 6 more ppl like nothing..
Again, congrats!
Shame on u ppl for hiding ^ ^
ignorance = 2 different ppl? Chosen[light] and GiTM-Omni? Or the same?
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chosen[light] aka gitm-omni, they are the same
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damn it chosen[light] o_O WAY TO SMURF ME
and my win didnt get recorded on wgt for some reason ;;
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russians are always godly with finding out akas lol, see paladin romad
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Just download all games of JustThinkAboutIt
I dont wanna tell his aka until some time
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nt.emperor 
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On May 26 2007 00:47 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
Just download all games of JustThinkAboutIt
I dont wanna tell his aka until some time
Dove?
roMAD say it plz, i guess he's a progamer if u don't want to tell -_-;
and come back the best detective plz
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say it but after beta season...
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Wow, JustThinkingAboutIt is cleaning up the house!
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On May 26 2007 01:23 CruiseR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2007 00:47 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
Just download all games of JustThinkAboutIt
I dont wanna tell his aka until some time Dove? roMAD say it plz, i guess he's a progamer if u don't want to tell -_-; and come back the best detective plz
I'd love to but i am not interested in foreigners on WGT. I only 'scout' progamers :p
And yes, he's a pro, very known pro.
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wow roMAD, so scout all the koreans in WGT :D
maybe say his proteam only plz :D
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sooooo nice to see koreans on a ladder again!
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haha would be so funny if "thinkAboutIt" is Savior practising Terran. The name would be suiting;)
tell us!!
but its probably not him since this terran goes tvt tvp also hmm who can it be, he really owns...
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The reason why i am not telling his aka is just because i dont want him to be 'scared away' from playing wgt :p
He has many games as P and Z though his main race is T and his apm is low compared to his usual apm. I will tell his aka after the season ends, until then just dl every his rep lol ;;
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I think roMAD already said way too much anyway ; )
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can't think of any super high apm terran's who having 300 apm seems low, no one springs to mind
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On May 26 2007 03:48 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
The reason why i am not telling his aka is just because i dont want him to be 'scared away' from playing wgt :p
He has many games as P and Z though his main race is T and his apm is low compared to his usual apm. I will tell his aka after the season ends, until then just dl every his rep lol ;;
Amen <3
Definitely fond of this approach, especially with the reincarnated WGT in its infant stages atm.
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NaDa !!!
: D
or Sea[Shield]
or Casy !!
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roMaD wont answer your guesses anyway
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HiyA maybe xd
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roMAD tell us if other gamer is pro so we can DL more players' reps :D
LOL i discovered who is ThinkAboutIt :OO
One of my fav. players ever :D
google power;]
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maybe i know who ThinkAboutIt is, even tho i dont think that this player is cruiser's fav. player (one of his fav.)
cruiser i pm u who i think it is pm me back if im wrong or right.
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lol maybe you guys you can just tell it to us...
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i don't see cryagain in the ladder anymore.
name change?
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according to some post at gg.net his coach found out that he is playing wgt with foreigners/rep release and punished him for doing so. he isnt allowed to play wgt anymore. dunno if thats actually true, maybe crayon knows better or someone else who meets him on west.
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i think progamers are not allowed to "release" reps. playing wgt without replay restrict can cause it (everyone can dl their reps)
hope no more progamers will be punished
ThinkAboutIt <3
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GwasOowOn = Hirai[Name]
Stop guessing who ThinkAboutIt is. Just dl and enjoy his reps
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Nt.Emperor, whos ThinkAboutIt? if anyone else knows for sure, plz pm me XD
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lol skew media has good record now and when I try to see his games, BLAFF!!!
-> "ERROR : Player restricted his match list from public."
wtf can you do that?
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wow thinkaboutit is so good... 100apm toss TheMoon[LighT] almost pwned him in 35mins game...
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ya I thought thinkaboutit has played some average games...
yet his style reminds me of midas...
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no, midas is much better than him...
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yeah watched taht game too but wqtch other games with him and you'll see he rapes most of them.. everyone can play a bad game.. depending on what time it is etc, also doesnt matter if he win or lose..
the game vs themoon he started a push and was reped horribly, 2 base vs toss 4 base and toss had 30-40 more foodcount..
still he can win, pretty impressive..
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On May 26 2007 07:11 Sumo wrote:
no, midas is much better than him...
Not really.
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ThinkAboutit = MBCgame HERO terran  top 5 KeSPA.
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how come i can't see some replays because they say they require the use of starcraft expansion? and i'm on bw.. anyone else got the same problem?
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On May 26 2007 07:28 Spitfire-ua wrote:
ThinkAboutit = MBCgame HERO terran ^^ top 5 KeSPA.
Light[aLive] ? i never liked this player but it's still cool that top 5 kespa is playing on wgtour.
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On May 26 2007 07:28 Spitfire-ua wrote:ThinkAboutit = MBCgame HERO terran top 5 KeSPA.
light[alive]?
how do u know;)
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On May 26 2007 07:29 CapO wrote:
how come i can't see some replays because they say they require the use of starcraft expansion? and i'm on bw.. anyone else got the same problem?
Have you patched to 1.15?
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yeah it's him... he is not that good. Canata (yes, he plays wgt) is better imho.
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On May 26 2007 07:31 AnOth3rDAy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2007 07:28 Spitfire-ua wrote:ThinkAboutit = MBCgame HERO terran top 5 KeSPA. light[alive]? how do u know;)
hmm i just checked for hotkeys with the wgt reps and some yg reps. it seems like he is light[alive]
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On May 26 2007 07:32 True_Spike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2007 07:29 CapO wrote:
how come i can't see some replays because they say they require the use of starcraft expansion? and i'm on bw.. anyone else got the same problem? Have you patched to 1.15?
yeah i have, i downloaded a bunch of thinkaboutit's replays. i saw his games vs genetleman, squall, and some other guy. but i can't see the one vs moon, because it says "this scenario requires the use of starcraft expansion set." should i redownload the rep?
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On May 26 2007 07:31 AnOth3rDAy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2007 07:28 Spitfire-ua wrote:ThinkAboutit = MBCgame HERO terran top 5 KeSPA. light[alive]? how do u know;)
just google his wgtour id - yangarush -.-
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On May 26 2007 07:28 Spitfire-ua wrote:ThinkAboutit = MBCgame HERO terran top 5 KeSPA.
Thx mister cool and smart guy
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he dominated squall so badly, yglcan just uploaded rep of light[alive] vs. moon, now info will be spread very fast ;p
striderdoom=day[9]
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I cant understand why pro cant release replays..?
they know the style, the way of playing of each other no? I mean they can watch games on vod, why not in replay ?
btw who is mym.striderdoom, I know its not a smurf but I wanted to know his akas, he has nice score ;o
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first of all sorry for english but plz read -_- .
after talk to some good people in west and what my friend think , or read website post about wgtour all the same reason come again and again .
im sad because most good korean pro or semi pro will never play wgtour seriously for pratice, here the reason .
( look what happen after nal_keke got aka posted )
1- the replay of all game can get downloaded .
( not sure but some people say you can download the rep from other player who you have play vs so if you restric your game list and the guy you play vs dont restric anyone can download here )
2- they dont like the harass after or before they got real aka release in topic like that too .
the image they got are 100 bugs who harass them when they log in ( nal_keke ) .
any good korean who got good stats in wgtour are actualy asked aka , or msg alot added f list for after see the guy never stop f msg talk or more .
what to do if wgtour want to become the new pgtour for korean ( what many think )
1- restric replay for work all place so you cant download the replay anymore
2- maybe make new post for tell people to respect and accept and dont harass good korean or something like that . they got harassed too much , some korean like that and other realy not .
and i think that not something realy hard to do , and maybe wgtour will become the new pgtour for many korean . thx
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but in the past wgtour was very popular, a lot of koreans, including pro played it .. why has it changes ?
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CruiseR
Poland4014 Posts
On May 26 2007 08:28 Leejungterran wrote:
first of all sorry for english but plz read -_- .
after talk to some good people in west and what my friend think , or read website post about wgtour all the same reason come again and again .
im sad because most good korean pro or semi pro will never play wgtour seriously for pratice, here the reason .
( look what happen after nal_keke got aka posted )
1- the replay of all game can get downloaded .
( not sure but some people say you can download the rep from other player who you have play vs so if you restric your game list and the guy you play vs dont restric anyone can download here )
2- they dont like the harass after or before they got real aka release in topic like that too .
the image they got are 100 bugs who harass them when they log in ( nal_keke ) .
any good korean who got good stats in wgtour are actualy asked aka , or msg alot added f list for after see the guy never stop f msg talk or more .
what to do if wgtour want to become the new pgtour for korean ( what many think )
1- restric replay for work all place so you cant download the replay anymore
2- maybe make new post for tell people to respect and accept and dont harass good korean or something like that . they got harassed too much , some korean like that and other realy not .
and i think that not something realy hard to do , and maybe wgtour will become the new pgtour for many korean . thx
WGT admin SpikE said that Replay restrict will work fully from the new season. So people can not download replays even from other player's matchlist.
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in the past, pro-replays were released... progaming companies are stupid.
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On May 26 2007 08:32 Kassios wrote:
but in the past wgtour was very popular, a lot of koreans, including pro played it .. why has it changes ?
yes some will probably play under smurf or some lesser know korean pro will probably come wgtour for fun .
but that will be never like pgtour where many pro gamer and semi pro played here for pratice for match and league , if they change nothing .
edid :
WGT admin SpikE said that Replay restrict will work fully from the new season. So people can not download replays even from other player's matchlist.
good to read , im realy sure wgtour will become the new pgtour for korean now
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wgt isnt hack free so no way that progamers will come to practice for osl msl or some event matches ..
if wgtour become hack free in future they will come but again they will smurf
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It's so nice that so many koreans play. This morning I checked the WGT ladder, top 10 were Koreans. That is nice. Few ours later, as daylight hit the foreign scene, other top players from different countries recovered what they lost during the night.
Is is quite promising that koreans are already here. I just hope WGT gets some gosu sponsors...
+ Show Spoiler +Blizzard anyone? rofl it wouldn't be possible in a million years
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1 - Like mentioned above - this is still a *beta* season, we are aware of every single bug (there are quite many, yet the ladder is still very playable) and every single bug will be fixed for season 14 + we will move to a new server to make gaming even more enjoyable. The restric replays feature will work like it should be - nobody will be able to download the replays from either player game list.
2 - WGTour has a policy of not releasing player's akas. With replay restriction enabled it will be much harder for foreign communities to identify the player's.
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On May 26 2007 08:37 Leejungterran wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2007 08:32 Kassios wrote:
but in the past wgtour was very popular, a lot of koreans, including pro played it .. why has it changes ? yes some will probably play under smurf or some lesser know korean pro will probably come wgtour for fun . but that will be never like pgtour where many pro gamer and semi pro played here for pratice for match and league , if they change nothing . edid : WGT admin SpikE said that Replay restrict will work fully from the new season. So people can not download replays even from other player's matchlist. good to read , im realy sure wgtour will become the new pgtour for korean now
but koreans must know how to restrict it ;]
most of kors have bad english, so i dunno if they can turn on replay restrict -.-
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you can still view the game information tho, even if its restricted?
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2 - WGTour has a policy of not releasing player's akas. With replay restriction enabled it will be much harder for foreign communities to identify the player's.
much harder but not imposible..
we have russian detectives
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On May 26 2007 08:50 CruiseR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2007 08:37 Leejungterran wrote:On May 26 2007 08:32 Kassios wrote:
but in the past wgtour was very popular, a lot of koreans, including pro played it .. why has it changes ? yes some will probably play under smurf or some lesser know korean pro will probably come wgtour for fun . but that will be never like pgtour where many pro gamer and semi pro played here for pratice for match and league , if they change nothing . edid : WGT admin SpikE said that Replay restrict will work fully from the new season. So people can not download replays even from other player's matchlist. good to read , im realy sure wgtour will become the new pgtour for korean now but koreans must know how to restrict it ;] most of kors have bad english, so i dunno if they can turn on replay restrict -.-
Then some korean is going to have to write a tutorial
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lol keke just reseted his wgt acc and restricted his reps, i guess thats it for him
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grrrrrr that skew restricted reps i enjoyed his reps/style T.T
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damn, so we have to give up all replaywatching to get some koreans to play wgt?
whats the point then=( if we dont know who they are and cannot watch them play.. they might aswell play vs other koreans @ lan no?
the best thing about wgt i think is that we can watch the replays=(
and no more "Who is who"-thread =((((
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Meh, no fun if everyone is gonna restrict their reps in the future.
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wait... if x restricted his reps.. means we cant dl reps from Y's acc in which he played X ?
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The restrict replay thing is kinda fucked up.Once the ladder gets really popular they could remove the option.
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On May 26 2007 08:45 minus_human wrote:It's so nice that so many koreans play. This morning I checked the WGT ladder, top 10 were Koreans. That is nice. Few ours later, as daylight hit the foreign scene, other top players from different countries recovered what they lost during the night. Is is quite promising that koreans are already here. I just hope WGT gets some gosu sponsors... + Show Spoiler +Blizzard anyone? rofl it wouldn't be possible in a million years
Doesn't Blizz sponsor WGT? :O
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Even harder to find hackers now
yay xD
still good for attracting pro gamers =]
edit : yay 8[
( not to let come up any false conclusions T_T )
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i have a feeling there are LOTS of hackers on this ladder atm.
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On May 26 2007 11:50 tehsex wrote:
wait... if x restricted his reps.. means we cant dl reps from Y's acc in which he played X ?
You could, but you don't know who he played against, since you can't see the match list. And even so, he may not show up on his opponent's mach list. I don't know for sure.
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On May 26 2007 12:33 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
i have a feeling there are LOTS of hackers on this ladder atm.
you think people have already broken through blizz's patch already ..?
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didnt really have the feeling that anyone hacked vs me so far..
still the rep rule could change some peoples minds who knows.. 8/
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Ok I got some of MistrZZZ's and Skew's replays from other people's accounts, so it works for now.
Also, DeadVessel, there were 1.14 hacks that worked on 1.15 from day1. There's nothing to "break through". There's no antihack system. Or if it is, it's hella bad. Drop hacks, map hacks, all work.
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On May 26 2007 12:33 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
i have a feeling there are LOTS of hackers on this ladder atm.
i played a korean terran and i had the feeling that he hacked 8/
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Its insane. I play someone I know or someone that is relatively known and the game goes just fine. I play a bunch of these random smurfs and suddenly i am being countered perfectly / getting rushed when i macro etc. Sure I might be paranoid, or some of you will accuse this of my "pride" but I would contend at least some of it is hacking.. and that is more than I am used to >_<
Kinda sucks.
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Maphack for patch 1.15 was made in 2 days after release :-[. It's so sad that blizzard can't make some thing to stop this f...... hackers.
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On May 26 2007 13:17 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Its insane. I play someone I know or someone that is relatively known and the game goes just fine. I play a bunch of these random smurfs and suddenly i am being countered perfectly / getting rushed when i macro etc. Sure I might be paranoid, or some of you will accuse this of my "pride" but I would contend at least some of it is hacking.. and that is more than I am used to >_<
Kinda sucks.
i have the same feeling this korean terran countered me too perfect
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On May 26 2007 13:17 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I play a bunch of these random smurfs and suddenly i am being countered perfectly / getting rushed when i macro etc.
i have same problem/feeling like u inc
i dont care if it's bo1 but if u play smurfs bo3/bo5 and all five games u got perfectly countered on five different maps
that isnt luck anymore,that's obivously hack ...
especially if someone hacking + have some knowledge in ZvZ or PvP and countering your build from start..that game is instant lose
i downloaded alot of reps from top 30~40 players either known of sumrf and i realized that known players from tot mgz dkh w/e top clan dies on some cheese or allins but those smufrs and nonames are untouchable in begining and know every your move later...
+ http://www.wgtour.com/member.php?datab=broodwar&id=317657
handy[tk] = i think that is devil[tk] from abyss = hacker
if i were near his rank i would avoid game vs him,no bwlpp so ...
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Might be paranoid cause we don't have BWL anymore but yeah I'm not sure either. Some games i've been playing has just been straight out "what the fuck?" But I try not thinking about it like that, it'll just end up with everyone thinking "lol he hacked anyways".
But ya I would feel 100% more comfortable if I had some kind of anti-hack while I played...
Anyways OT:
FChopin is MgZ)yuki.
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people who remove the showing of their own reps are to be considered maphackers til proven innocent
just kidding
well, not entirely.
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is daaman .....any good ?? at all ? o.O
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On May 26 2007 14:52 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
is daaman .....any good ?? at all ? o.O
Even in bad shape he isnt bad tvz. In his prime he was very formidable yes
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um....... sounds like ring a bell , with team (TE) or something?
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huh? daaman was never in TE if thats what you mean.
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Daaman was (and still is technically) in Liquid.
EDIT: Whoever were those sad cunts pestering Keke
=(.
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On May 26 2007 14:05 GongKyuckTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2007 13:17 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I play a bunch of these random smurfs and suddenly i am being countered perfectly / getting rushed when i macro etc.
+ http://www.wgtour.com/member.php?datab=broodwar&id=317657handy[tk] = i think that is devil[tk] from abyss = hacker if i were near his rank i would avoid game vs him,no bwlpp so ...
are you sure he hacks ??? i know a lot of people who say he is a hacker but there not a solid proof if you can give me a good proof i will make him pay for this shit
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Well.. after watching the reps of TT1 i'm pretty sure he hacks too. I've nothing against that guy nor i think i ever played him but it's pretty obvious if you watch his pvps on wgt.
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This thread was not created for accusions :p
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my thread was closed, anyway TheMoon[LighT], whose rec was like 43-11 on wgtour, just got banned for maphacking. http://www.wgtour.com/member.php?datab=broodwar&id=326139
edit: i just wanted to quote this
On May 26 2007 12:33 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
i have a feeling there are LOTS of hackers on this ladder atm.
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a ladder w/ tons of hackers?
i don't call that unfair
i call that good practice
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holy fuck I lost 4 games to that fucking bastard.
Jesus christ he was the reason i started a thread btw.
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TheMoon[Light] = NeO)Manny ?????? :D
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ThinkAboutIt the first to B5
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Hackers omfg D:
Is it that serious to add spoiler with people that hack and those who are suspicious and should be taken closer look at?
I hope its not that bad that there would be more than very few of them
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you sure there is already hack released ?
Seriously it sucks .. but it's true it's strange sometimes.. Do all the Z go p9 vs P ? Bc everytime Im going fast exp I have to eat a p9 oO
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On May 27 2007 02:48 Kassios wrote:
you sure there is already hack released ?
Seriously it sucks .. but it's true it's strange sometimes.. Do all the Z go p9 vs P ? Bc everytime Im going fast exp I have to eat a p9 oO
yes we to , so stop making fe
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Lmao I just filed a cheating complaint against that guy yesterday. I knew he was fucking hacking, what a loser. His play was too fucking obvious :O
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ahahahah
my sources tells me that
TheMoon[LighT] = syndicate
this guy is a peace of crap
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sc will never get rid of hackers this is so sad
with my 1.15 experiense i have only encountered 1 suspisous guy for hacking but im not sure.
http://rapidshare.com/files/33659254/3.rep.html
note that this is not a wgt ladder game but a cw game. Im the zerg btw .
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who is ThinkAboutIt ???
any1 knows ???
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Zurg think-about-it one more time when you read through the last 3 pages.....
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i will remember you
if u dindt read 28 pages and ask again something what allready someone sayd on page 17
anyway thanks
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lol, themoon played a 40min game vs light[alive] and i thought themoon played well, turns out he hacked omg..
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On May 27 2007 04:52 GongKyuckTerran wrote:ahahahah my sources tells me that TheMoon[LighT] = syndicate this guy is a peace of crap
rofl
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On May 27 2007 06:07 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
lol, themoon played a 40min game vs light[alive] and i thought themoon played well, turns out he hacked omg..
Actually it was that game that made me realize he might be hacking. He didn't play well at all actually. All he did in that game was attack perfectly at the right positions without even having a obs or scouting there.
Terran had to run back and forth for like 25 minutes because he saw exactly where to attack. One interesting thing in that game also is that TheMooN storms out of view, just like he "saw" something he could possibly not see :p
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Now all hackers have to do is restrict their replays so its harder for them to be caught, and abuse well.... restrict ur reps and you can abuse all the way to C0... take that bullshit off, If people are gonna be doing the same build in wcg, as there doing in WGT dont bother going cause ur gonna lose -_-
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4 of my losses are removed Hope they find some more, cause I would surely get more losses removed hehe!
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On May 27 2007 02:48 Kassios wrote:
you sure there is already hack released ?
Seriously it sucks .. but it's true it's strange sometimes.. Do all the Z go p9 vs P ? Bc everytime Im going fast exp I have to eat a p9 oO
14 nex-ers should die all the time. If you're gonna fe, scout after pylon, and if you don't find him, do forge first, don't just hope for zerg to go 12hatch. G5 tought me this.
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On May 27 2007 07:51 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2007 02:48 Kassios wrote:
you sure there is already hack released ?
Seriously it sucks .. but it's true it's strange sometimes.. Do all the Z go p9 vs P ? Bc everytime Im going fast exp I have to eat a p9 oO 14 nex-ers should die all the time. If you're gonna fe, scout after pylon, and if you don't find him, do forge first, don't just hope for zerg to go 12hatch. G5 tought me this.
seems normal for me hehe
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no tt1/oldy i play on mgz)tt1 now its only oldy and some other mgz players
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i think hung played 3-4 games on it too
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acc sharing is forbidden in wgt yo.. it means ban
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its sad that there are so many hackers still....
everything is perfect with WGT except there's no anti hack, hopefully when the official season starts they will have some kind of anti hack system.... or else a lot of people will be banned, also alot of people will hack and not be banned
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most of replays are tt1 
On May 27 2007 10:31 tehsex wrote:
acc sharing is forbidden in wgt yo.. it means ban
Really? Well its better for abusing and stuff but some good players are just too lazy to bash noobs like me on lower ranks (Hello Testie) and won't play it then
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hm the restrict replay option seems to not be working i just downloaded some reps from DAy from ThinkAboitIt account and day restrict his reps
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post at wgt help forum please, might be a bug.
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in fact i can download all reps from all players if they played a player who didnt restrict their match oo
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2 things... GOOD JOB SQUALL ON OWNING LADDER NOW!!!
and COME ON SEN PLAY LIGHT!!!!
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On May 27 2007 13:10 greatmeh wrote:its sad that there are so many hackers still.... everything is perfect with WGT except there's no anti hack, hopefully when the official season starts they will have some kind of anti hack system.... or else a lot of people will be banned, also alot of people will hack and not be banned
Also i'd really like to see how many hackers there are, since a LOT of ppl are way to much paranoid.
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i just realized i am REALLY paranoid >_< fucking hell. I see alot of korean profiles complaining about it as well. We could lose this ladder if something is not done.
Fucking hackers.
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On May 27 2007 07:51 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2007 02:48 Kassios wrote:
you sure there is already hack released ?
Seriously it sucks .. but it's true it's strange sometimes.. Do all the Z go p9 vs P ? Bc everytime Im going fast exp I have to eat a p9 oO 14 nex-ers should die all the time. If you're gonna fe, scout after pylon, and if you don't find him, do forge first, don't just hope for zerg to go 12hatch. G5 tought me this.
4 player maps scout on 8 and 11
You'll scout the last 2 nats at the same time while on 13 psi. If you don't see a hatch morphing then forge. Only safe way.
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Anyone knows who this guy is ? 28-2 record and he also has a pic.
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anyone knows who is uglytoss?
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On May 28 2007 02:27 FirstBorn wrote:
Anyone knows who this guy is ? 28-2 record and he also has a pic.
which guy?
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For some reason i cant log onto europe server shit cancels itself when it gets to account T_T
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inc was it fun playing vs light? hes a f-cking monster
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light was UBER manner and had decent english. I was completely hopeless however, wasnt playing well and its.. fucking light heheh.
It was fun to have my crack at em but I would have preferred to have given him a better game (which I am capable of). Ah well, this mass gaming is working out my kinks I should be in some better form soon.
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Just saw a nihama replay, hmm he might be a top grade terran... from viewing 1 replay i cant say much really, call in the russian experts someone!!
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I think s)peed_rookie hacks big time >_<
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On May 28 2007 10:49 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I think s)peed_rookie hacks big time >_<
ive played him once or twice, If i can ever log into the site we could download the reps and watch and see
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i played vs Light's Z twice, i got crushed terribly >_<
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wihtout penguin plug for a `first person view` all acusations are useless imho... dunno how moon[light] got banned without a PP proof. maybe he did something obvious... w/e
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FCHOPIN = MgZ)yuki
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first, themoon was fake light .... he was banned for maphack due to LOTS of suspicious actions in a LOT of his games.
CS admins viewed over 30 replays of his ... every single replay he scouted his opponent first ... in a game vs TT1 , he build citadel for DT rush, and cancelled it after TT1 started a forge and then went 3 gate goon (without vis off tt1) .... scanning exact location of burrowed lurkers without any sort of hint they were there ... always found opponents expo and killed them off with perfect time , and a ton of other stuff that might be overlooked or passed off as intuition in a couple games... but we saw these trends every single time in 30+ games of his.
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hmm TT1 build forge when themoon[light] build citadel? interesing...
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On May 28 2007 12:02 Sumo wrote:
hmm TT1 build forge when themoon[light] build citadel? interesing...
TT1 hacks ask artosis =]
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artosis is a sore loser and accuses everyone he loses to of cheating
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not accusing TT1 at all, but it would be sure fun to have a hacker vs hacker game each canceling out everything the other player did, imo would be fun to watch
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Ok Ok Merz, have your chopin, I seemed to somehow miss your posts always -,-
On May 28 2007 11:54 Xeris wrote:
first, themoon was fake light .... he was banned for maphack due to LOTS of suspicious actions in a LOT of his games.
CS admins viewed over 30 replays of his ... every single replay he scouted his opponent first ... in a game vs TT1 , he build citadel for DT rush, and cancelled it after TT1 started a forge and then went 3 gate goon (without vis off tt1) .... scanning exact location of burrowed lurkers without any sort of hint they were there ... always found opponents expo and killed them off with perfect time , and a ton of other stuff that might be overlooked or passed off as intuition in a couple games... but we saw these trends every single time in 30+ games of his.
Bloody hell, it is that hard to really be sure someone hacks. No wonder only a very little percentage of those gays will be busted. Darn we need that antihack.
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Why we want so many koreans? I like Foreigners.
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On May 28 2007 10:49 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I think s)peed_rookie hacks big time >_<
i think it 2.
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you know people used hacks even with antihack =o
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On May 28 2007 12:52 rain~ wrote:yes, he's a progamer ]
cool! wich one ?
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On May 28 2007 12:02 Sumo wrote:
hmm TT1 build forge when themoon[light] build citadel? interesing...
how would i know if hes building a citadel if thats the case ;p
leejiumhee or w/e = force[name]
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On May 28 2007 13:20 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2007 12:02 Sumo wrote:
hmm TT1 build forge when themoon[light] build citadel? interesing... how would i know if hes building a citadel if thats the case ;p
maphack ? ;p
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Why does LighT let so many cheaters into their team o_O Stop it !
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we need anti-hack but not as much as we need PP imho. anti-hacked can be ... hacked as well
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On May 28 2007 13:52 Darki[Per] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2007 13:20 TT1 wrote:On May 28 2007 12:02 Sumo wrote:
hmm TT1 build forge when themoon[light] build citadel? interesing... how would i know if hes building a citadel if thats the case ;p maphack ? ;p
the citadel is warping, its impossible to know if its robo citadel pylon forge etc.
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PP/BWL wasn't invincible. Hacks did work on it so its not that big of a difference between 1.14/1.15.
TheMoon[Light] isn't a real Light member. If I make a name with some team's tag, it doesn't make me part of that team.
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On May 28 2007 14:04 Dknight wrote:
PP/BWL wasn't invincible. Hacks did work on it so its not that big of a difference between 1.14/1.15.
What are those hacks that worked with pp at same time ?
i tested alot of maphacks(what i find over few sites) for 1.14 and u could load few but after few seconds sc would crash so...
all those hacks that needed dll injection didnt work on penguin plug cuz pp could crash them easily
at least i heard that on bwprogammers forum/ hackers site forums ..
ashur told that he made hack that worked with pp at same time,but he didnt released it for public..
i was happy to play guy who used bwl pp cuz i was convinced that those maphacks didnt work,dunno maybe i was wrong ...
@ rain~
u sure about this
nihama = Sea.RuBy ?
if yes thx alot
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lol @ wgt site changing looking like PGT now =p
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yes, im sure, hotkeys are identical
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On May 28 2007 14:04 Dknight wrote:
PP/BWL wasn't invincible. Hacks did work on it so its not that big of a difference between 1.14/1.15.
TheMoon[Light] isn't a real Light member. If I make a name with some team's tag, it doesn't make me part of that team.
The difference is 1.15 has a ladder 1.14 didnt. So people had less incentive to hack in fun games vs friends or small tourneys whereas now the number 1 way for recognition is to do well in the only ladder of worth atm, so they hack.
Hence the TONS of hackers.
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On May 27 2007 07:27 St.Laz wrote:Now all hackers have to do is restrict their replays so its harder for them to be caught, and abuse well.... restrict ur reps and you can abuse all the way to C0... take that bullshit off, If people are gonna be doing the same build in wcg, as there doing in WGT dont bother going cause ur gonna lose -_-
If you feel the player hacked you can upload the replay from your own replay folder and post link to wgt homepage etc.
Maybe wgt admins should be allowed to download restricted replays to counter abuse if this is not enough?
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replay release is big issue cus it drives koreans away, especially the progamers
btw why is it that when some1 restricts their replay the rep can still be dowload the other players page, is this normal or bug ?
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hey people. i got a wgt question,. i made a rep pack from Lights wgt replays and i was wondering is it ok to upload it ? I mean what is lights policy on uploading reps, i would not like it if light had to reset his account too like keke because of reps
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On May 28 2007 02:44 Kassios wrote:
anyone knows who is uglytoss?
oh some toss that used to be on tl.net
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On May 28 2007 15:11 TT1 wrote:
replay release is big issue cus it drives koreans away, especially the progamers
btw why is it that when some1 restricts their replay the rep can still be dowload the other players page, is this normal or bug ?
If you read the WGT news post on "end of beta season" they address this, it will be fixed.
ANTI HACK PLEASE!
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On May 28 2007 09:54 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
light was UBER manner and had decent english. I was completely hopeless however, wasnt playing well and its.. fucking light heheh.
It was fun to have my crack at em but I would have preferred to have given him a better game (which I am capable of). Ah well, this mass gaming is working out my kinks I should be in some better form soon.
Watched 1 of ur game vs him @ Longigus 13mins long... He had crazy rine control :O
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hmm so someone said that ReasoN is playing with a korean flag somewhere. i think hes one of the InCa's... either thecruise or zZ
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eh no they are TErran users
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mYm.Sen restricted his replays
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does anyone else think mYm.sen is not the real mYm.sen ?
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On May 28 2007 15:32 kroko wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2007 09:54 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
light was UBER manner and had decent english. I was completely hopeless however, wasnt playing well and its.. fucking light heheh.
It was fun to have my crack at em but I would have preferred to have given him a better game (which I am capable of). Ah well, this mass gaming is working out my kinks I should be in some better form soon. Watched 1 of ur game vs him @ Longigus 13mins long... He had crazy rine control :O
That'd be the one I almost did ok in He is just an insane player. Definately one of the top dogs in pro leagues these days.
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On May 28 2007 15:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2007 15:32 kroko wrote:On May 28 2007 09:54 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
light was UBER manner and had decent english. I was completely hopeless however, wasnt playing well and its.. fucking light heheh.
It was fun to have my crack at em but I would have preferred to have given him a better game (which I am capable of). Ah well, this mass gaming is working out my kinks I should be in some better form soon. Watched 1 of ur game vs him @ Longigus 13mins long... He had crazy rine control :O That'd be the one I almost did ok in He is just an insane player. Definately one of the top dogs in pro leagues these days.
light is on the top players on pro league scene? lol
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[QUOTE]On May 28 2007 16:14 Myxomatosis wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 28 2007 16:12 TesisMech wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 28 2007 15:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 28 2007 15:32 kroko wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 28 2007 09:54 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
light was UBER manner and had decent english. I was completely hopeless however, wasnt playing well and its.. fucking light heheh.
It was fun to have my crack at em but I would have preferred to have given him a better game (which I am capable of). Ah well, this mass gaming is working out my kinks I should be in some better form soon.[/QUOTE]
Watched 1 of ur game vs him @ Longigus 13mins long... He had crazy rine control :O[/QUOTE]
That'd be the one I almost did ok in He is just an insane player. Definately one of the top dogs in pro leagues these days.[/QUOTE]
light is on the top players on pro league scene? lol[/QUOTE]
are you kidding me? light is unreal.
lol. he's 5 on this months KeSPA rankings.
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On May 28 2007 16:12 TesisMech wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2007 15:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On May 28 2007 15:32 kroko wrote:On May 28 2007 09:54 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
light was UBER manner and had decent english. I was completely hopeless however, wasnt playing well and its.. fucking light heheh.
It was fun to have my crack at em but I would have preferred to have given him a better game (which I am capable of). Ah well, this mass gaming is working out my kinks I should be in some better form soon. Watched 1 of ur game vs him @ Longigus 13mins long... He had crazy rine control :O That'd be the one I almost did ok in He is just an insane player. Definately one of the top dogs in pro leagues these days. light is on the top players on pro league scene? lol
Hes top 10 kespa isnt he? I think that qualifies for my statement.
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so no one wants his rep pack from wgt then ?
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On May 28 2007 16:18 BeSiGeR wrote:
so no one wants his rep pack from wgt then ?
you're joking right ^^. I even PMd you!
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his reppack is already on Yaoyuan.com man
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sen restricted his reps... CHEETOR
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if someone is possibly a hacker the people that play him can always get the replays from their mopaq folder, all the reps are autosaved so u just gotta go and find them and take a look
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I don't think mYm.Sen restricted his replays, I think the replays aren't showing up for anyone anymore.
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The reppack would be nice :D
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sorry .. in your list you are refering ThinkAboutiT aka Light[aLive] aren you? thanks ;D
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it sez 50 games , i have 54 :p
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ditto with stalife. is sen really sen? seems to play all three races really well?
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I dont think Light restricted his replays so why isnt he punished by his coach ?
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On May 29 2007 02:03 Kassios wrote:
I dont think Light restricted his replays so why isnt he punished by his coach ?
cuz we foreigners blow and us seeing his reps won't do him any harm.
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I like how really bad foreigners with horrible records restrict their replays too. As if someone will care.
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On May 29 2007 01:47 HyunG wrote:
ditto with stalife. is sen really sen? seems to play all three races really well?
he has a bo7 showmatch on gg.net with mondi and all game's are RvR so he can be practising all race's
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On May 29 2007 05:32 Guybrush wrote:
I like how really bad foreigners with horrible records restrict their replays too. As if someone will care.
LOL ? Didn't knew that.
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On May 29 2007 02:03 Kassios wrote:
I dont think Light restricted his replays so why isnt he punished by his coach ?
maybe his coatch cant toy around with him like with keke, coz light is so fucking good.
kespa 5 monster can do what he wants O_Ov
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On May 29 2007 07:33 FirstBorn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2007 05:32 Guybrush wrote:
I like how really bad foreigners with horrible records restrict their replays too. As if someone will care. LOL ? Didn't knew that.
Some of them clicked on the restricted replay by mistake and we can't make it back untill next season.
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Honnestly, replays restriction is understandable. But dammit, it is very non public friendly. As a non player, this replay system was very attractive, i hope many players I like won't restrict their reps.
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it is funny that people restrict their replays... let look here ThemOon[light] restricted his reps.... and he was a hacker he probally could of been caught long before he did and who knows who else hacks im alittle confused how shitty americans and foriengers are even restricting their reps... Like WHY IS LZGAMER[RC] restricting his replays lmao
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EVERYONE except korean progamers who restric their replays are HACKING. lets all agree on that :O
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On May 29 2007 08:39 St.Laz wrote:
im alittle confused how shitty americans and foriengers are even restricting their reps... Like WHY IS LZGAMER[RC] restricting his replays lmao
prolly they train for wcg,restricting their reps so other candidates dont see tactics/strategies...
they can do two things;
a)restrict replays
b)smurf on other accounts and get cought at end
mind your own busines man,let people to do what they want with their replays..
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On May 29 2007 08:39 St.Laz wrote:
it is funny that people restrict their replays... let look here ThemOon[light] restricted his reps.... and he was a hacker he probally could of been caught long before he did and who knows who else hacks im alittle confused how shitty americans and foriengers are even restricting their reps... Like WHY IS LZGAMER[RC] restricting his replays lmao
probably because he didnt want to deal with faggot unknown scrubs like you
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LzGamer is training for WCG ... =o
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doesnt matter lzgamer wont win it..
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Yeah, I think new season shouldn't be run before That maphack shit is resolved and people can restrict their replays TT
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Maphack will always exist.
PP wasn't that safe that people might've thought. But yeah it's definitely an improvement if they could make some kind of anti-hack to stop at least a few of them.
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why does everyone wanna restrict the replays, its so fun watching wgt-reps...
question: if i play vs someone who restricts his replays, wont i be able to watch my replay vs him then?
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its saved in lastreplay.rep, just dont play another game before re-naming it.
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he means dl the rep from his `played games` list which he can
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restrict replays can lead to very much abuse aswell
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Canada9720 Posts
well say a hacker restricts his replays and plays a game, and his opponent is suspicious based on the hacker's play, he can still save the game, upload it, and make his case in the abuse forum
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all the games autosave into the leagues folder that u had to download to play wgt
Program Files -> Starcraft -> Leagues -> Wgtour and u will find every single league game replay that u ever played....there are just numbered tho so u would just have to search for the replay of the right player
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i hope ygclan opens their own ladder so i don't have to play this one. never seen such a ridiculous system as to give penalties for not wanting your practice games shown...
i understand the problem with hackers, but you are powerless to stop it. there will always be a new hack and there will always be a new whiny, arrogant shit head that downloads and uses it. there are top players even now that hack, but will never be caught or punished for it. you cant stop it so just don't worry about it.
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I can understand progamers sort of why they dont release their replays... but let's take a look.
a) Progamers MOST LIKELY will NOT play WGT for practice. They'll just play it for shits and giggles, probably offracing and fucking around (and still dominating) ... who cares if people watch these games, it's not as if they're trying out super-secret builds that they are scared people will find. Secondly, who the hell will go and search WGT reps for these pros and be like "muwahahahaha I found their super-secret build ... now I'll go sell it on the black market for big $$$" nobody would do that.
b) And let's also be serious here... the WCG maps are old, the builds and strats for them are old.. it's not as if some new innovative builds are being discovered and practiced to worry about hiding... everybody has already seen every build in every mu for these WCG maps... so what is there really to "restrict" ... and again, who is gonna go DL these reps and be like "muwaahahah now I know your playstyle!!!" ... all the top players play each other a lot, and know their play styles already, so it's not as if there is going to be some big secret.
Seriously, wanting to restrict your reps is really dumb, unless you are some kinda progamer where it will matter... but nobody is, even the pros are just fucking around, so who cares if random scrubs watch your replays because they idolize you (whoever)... more power to them.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On May 29 2007 21:50 Xeris wrote:
I can understand progamers sort of why they dont release their replays... but let's take a look.
a) Progamers MOST LIKELY will NOT play WGT for practice. They'll just play it for shits and giggles, probably offracing and fucking around (and still dominating) ... who cares if people watch these games, it's not as if they're trying out super-secret builds that they are scared people will find. Secondly, who the hell will go and search WGT reps for these pros and be like "muwahahahaha I found their super-secret build ... now I'll go sell it on the black market for big $$$" nobody would do that.
b) And let's also be serious here... the WCG maps are old, the builds and strats for them are old.. it's not as if some new innovative builds are being discovered and practiced to worry about hiding... everybody has already seen every build in every mu for these WCG maps... so what is there really to "restrict" ... and again, who is gonna go DL these reps and be like "muwaahahah now I know your playstyle!!!" ... all the top players play each other a lot, and know their play styles already, so it's not as if there is going to be some big secret.
Seriously, wanting to restrict your reps is really dumb, unless you are some kinda progamer where it will matter... but nobody is, even the pros are just fucking around, so who cares if random scrubs watch your replays because they idolize you (whoever)... more power to them. .
Thank you, i couldn't have said it better myself. Im one of those random scrubs - Release relays plz kthxbai.
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Yes but skew is making new and innovative strats CANT YOU SEE THAT!?!?
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skew just thinks hes a fucking progamer living in korea or something, seriously, get over yourself, yes you are good, much better than me but theres no reason why no one should see your replays. i seriously doubt someone is gonna watch 100 replays of and memorize every single one of your strategies, its just not worth it since other players use the same strats. stop crying like a baby and practice, or dont practice just dont whine about wgt when they are providing the best ladder bw has seen since pgt...jesus.
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they should make it so you can restrict replays but not matchlist, that way everyone can be happy
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Austin10831 Posts
Haha, my goodness.
Get off skew's back. You're acting like he owes you something, like his replays are your right somehow. If you can't watch his reps, go and watch some of the other tens of thousands of replays on the internet.
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HOW ABOUT YOU GET OFF SKEWS DICK, cocksucking is no way to make friends. i dont even want to watch his reps, im just stating my opinion that i think hes wrong in this matter.
besides i was speaking in general, not just about skew restricting reps but about everyone other than pros
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Words can't describe how stupid this is. it's they choose if people watch there reps or not. Simple as that.
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Norway28614 Posts
"skew just thinks hes a fucking progamer living in korea or something, seriously, get over yourself, yes you are good, much better than me but theres no reason why no one should see your replays."
"besides i was speaking in general, not just about skew restricting reps but about everyone other than pros"
i can see where he'd be confused
clean up your act
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how the hell do i think that? every fucking time i post about myself i admit im nothing in sc. i know that, everyone elses know that, i dont give a shit. i dont play this game to make anyone care. i play for a very small group of friends and to entertain myself. my replays arent your property, so fuck off.
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for someone that just plays to entertain themselves they seem aweful protective of their replays, which is much more characteristic of someone that is playing for more than fun. And if u were playing for fun as u say u are, then having the community see ur replays should not matter to u. and i never said i wanted ur replays, i think i maybe made that clear when i said "i dont even want to watch his reps." i guess thats not clear enough for u?? besides i was just upset because u were bitching about losing pts for restricting replays when u really dont have a reason to.
and drone i dont see what i said that would confuse anyone. the only reason i said skew in the first quote was because i was responding to him. what i said applies to all non progamers that restrict their replays, but skew was the first person that said something. i really dont see what ur saying but w/e
basically i just got mad cuz u were whining, i guess i overreacted, im sry :D
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United States37500 Posts
On May 30 2007 12:07 MorningWood wrote:
for someone that just plays to entertain themselves they seem aweful protective of their replays, which is much more characteristic of someone that is playing for more than fun. And if u were playing for fun as u say u are, then having the community see ur replays should not matter to u. and i never said i wanted ur replays, i think i maybe made that clear when i said "i dont even want to watch his reps." i guess thats not clear enough for u?? besides i was just upset because u were bitching about losing pts for restricting replays when u really dont have a reason to.
and drone i dont see what i said that would confuse anyone. the only reason i said skew in the first quote was because i was responding to him. what i said applies to all non progamers that restrict their replays, but skew was the first person that said something. i really dont see what ur saying but w/e
basically i just got mad cuz u were whining, i guess i overreacted, im sry :D
The hell are you talking about? WGT has the option to restrict replays, if you're going to bitch, bitch at WGT. Players can make their own choices about the games they play and the replays they release. Just because someone like Skew is playing on a public ladder doesn't mean he owes shit to the community to have his replays release.
If you're going to continue to bitch, why not complain about DAy[9], who also has his replays restricted as well?
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Canada9720 Posts
just wanted to let you guys know that I restricted my reps, so tough luck. neo. stop pming me
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United States37500 Posts
But Lou, I thought we were friendzzz. :<
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On May 30 2007 13:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
WGT has the option to restrict replays, if you're going to bitch, bitch at WGT. Players can make their own choices about the games they play and the replays they release. Just because someone like Skew is playing on a public ladder doesn't mean he owes shit to the community to have his replays release.
i agree.
If a player doesnt feel comfortable with others watching his reps, for whatever reason, and there _is_ the option to suit him, why the hell wouldnt he use it?!
Also, someone said that hiding reps has no purpose... well, if i remember correctly, boxer lost a wcg game to a newbie that lost the rest of his games and had only 1 win, the one vs boxer. he only beat him because he studied boxers reps to the smallest details and was able to find a hole in his gameplay and take advantage of that.
If i was the WCG representative for my country and i played WGT, I'd sure as fuck hide my reps rather than risk some newbie stealing my ticket for a free trip to a supercool foreign country.
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This game is for entertaining only, if you restrict replays etc, people wont be very much entertained with wgt.
I hope you play another ladder skew coz i've seen several games where you abuse and your opponent leaves after 3 minutes..
And stop talking about owing the community to have his replay released, ofcourse we should be able to watch his and everyone elses replays when they are playing a public ladder.
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Wgtour having so many replays is great for the community! Now people won't have to go through heaven and hell to get reps of good players anymore. There's one new rep a day on GG.net and 1 new rep a month at TL, so its hard finding fun reps of the best non-koreans nowadays. And yes its your right to restrict reps, still i think the 10% penalty is the best option, keeps those who don't really care from restricting, but still attracts korean pros because they can avoid showing their reps.
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On May 30 2007 16:41 ishob wrote:
Wgtour having so many replays is great for the community! Now people won't have to go through heaven and hell to get reps of good players anymore. There's one new rep a day on GG.net and 1 new rep a month at TL, so its hard finding fun reps of the best non-koreans nowadays. And yes its your right to restrict reps, still i think the 10% penalty is the best option, keeps those who don't really care from restricting, but still attracts korean pros because they can avoid showing their reps.
I agree 100% well said.
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United States37500 Posts
On May 30 2007 16:28 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
This game is for entertaining only, if you restrict replays etc, people wont be very much entertained with wgt.
I hope you play another ladder skew coz i've seen several games where you abuse and your opponent leaves after 3 minutes..
And stop talking about owing the community to have his replay released, ofcourse we should be able to watch his and everyone elses replays when they are playing a public ladder.
Entertaining for whom? You or the players? afaik, on the front page rankings, there were only two players off the top of my head that decided to restrict replays: Skew and DAy. I would say your entertainment as a viewer is hardly suffering by not being able to watch replays of two American players.
lol, you think it's this given right that everyone should be able to watch all the games from WGT? You enforce something like mandatory replay upload and I guarantee you that more players will pull a Keke, play for a few weeks then reset or simply not play at all. Those who wish to restrict their replays already suffer point penalty, which suffice to say, is a punishment in its own. The key thing is putting an option there for the players: upload reps or restrict with a penalty.
Lastly, you're right, this is a public ladder. Frankly to say, it should cater more to the actual players who do ladder, than those who just want to spectate.
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FFS neoillisions
"If you're going to continue to bitch, why not complain about DAy[9], who also has his replays restricted as well?"
BECAUSE SKEW IS THE ONE CRYING LIKE A FUCKING TWO YEAR OLD BECAUSE HE HAS TO BE PENALIZED FOR DOING IT. day isnt complaining like a gigantic baby like skew is.
skew said, " never seen such a ridiculous system as to give penalties for not wanting your practice games shown..." if u wanna restrict ur reaplays then take the fucking penalty and stfu. thats why i wont say anythingabout day, cuz he isnt crying like 2 year old.
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Osaka27139 Posts
Morningwood you were asked to manner up by a moderator. I suggest you fucking do so.
About reps, it is the players right to release or not release them, and he doesnt owe anybody anything. Many good players release all of their reps at the end of the season anyways, so wait for those.
I would like to have matchlists public though, as it makes it easier to spot abusers.
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Yeah but he is right in the thing that giving penalty for restrictions brings benefits to the community and wgt
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On May 30 2007 16:28 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
This game is for entertaining only, if you restrict replays etc, people wont be very much entertained with wgt.
AS FAR AS I KNOW HE(good players) DON'T PLAY A LADDER TO ENTERTAIN YOU/ME.
Pay for his reps if you are so interested.
On May 30 2007 16:28 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
I hope you play another ladder skew coz i've seen several games where you abuse and your opponent leaves after 3 minutes..
WHO ARE YOU? THE WGT POLICE?
On May 30 2007 16:28 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
And stop talking about owing the community to have his replay released, ofcourse we should be able to watch his and everyone elses replays when they are playing a public ladder.
Sure, thats why PGT sucked, not a single gosu played there because they were sad that couldn't entertain noobs.
PS: I don't know who the fuck skew is, the first time I saw him on wgt I thought he was Idra. So, I don't care about him/his reps and I'm not his fan. I just hate people without comon sense.
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the point is it should be everyone's decision, without criticism or penalty. that's all. anyone who disagrees with that is a crazy ass stalker.
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i really dont know how many times i have to say that i dont want to see his replays, im just trying to explain the principle of the whole thing.
and all i want is for skew to stop crying....i mean if he doesnt like the way wgt is set up then dont play it, honestly i think we can live without him, rofl
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It isn't really Skew, seeing as you are playing on a free server payed for by other people's money. This is a service provided by wgtour, and if you don't like it , well, you just lost the best place currently to practice all your strats for wgt. And logicly if its only for practice, why would you care about having to play 1 extra game for every ten you play to match others in points?
And i'd also like to add that while this is a minor inconvenience for you, its a huge joy to thousands of other bw-players who just likes to watch reps, alone or with friends. People can appreciate watching your and everyone elses games without being spies or crazy fans.
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RAR RAR RAR ANGRY FLAMES !
I think the penalty is quite fair. The people who want their reps restricted (probably for weird practice reasons or whatever...) probably should care about losing 10% of their points since they are playing for practice rather than acheiving a pretty looking rank.... right? So following that train of thought, the penalty is fine how it is.
One of the great features of WGT is that thousands of reps become available that were not available before, it has been a defining aspect of the WGT ladder since its inception, and the WGT admins wanted to keep it this way, and allow "freedom of information" basically.
So people who want to restrict that will have to suffer a small, and reasonable penalty.
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the way I understood it, I thought restricting matchlist was just a temporary "solution". and as for the new season, no matchlist will be restricted, but the replays of the players who restrict their replays will be disabled from downloading.. it makes most sense to me o_O
also, is it possible to add the games from complaint get added to matchlist? whether it be win/lose
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Match lists WILL be public, you just won't be able to download restricted replays.
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true spike, but since i know who X played, cant i download X's replays from his opponents match list ?
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their fixing that bug atm.
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You won't be able to download a restricted replay from anyone's match list.
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Did savior owe the community to release his replays at the WWI, yes apperently coz that was the rules. if wgt would have rules that reps are released then they fucking owe it.
Its for entertaining the community, i dont care if he plays for himself only, without the community he would play vs computer lol
do i owe the community not to hack when i play? no.. ofcourse i dont OWE anyone anything but that doesnt mean should do whatever i want
The best way to get new players to play BW and get good, wich we all want is to let them watch replays from good players and develop faster. omg
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i think its good the way it is 10% aint much for those players who want to restric reps.
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United States37500 Posts
On May 31 2007 03:29 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Did savior owe the community to release his replays at the WWI, yes apperently coz that was the rules. if wgt would have rules that reps are released then they fucking owe it.
Its for entertaining the community, i dont care if he plays for himself only, without the community he would play vs computer lol
do i owe the community not to hack when i play? no.. ofcourse i dont OWE anyone anything but that doesnt mean should do whatever i want
The best way to get new players to play BW and get good, wich we all want is to let them watch replays from good players and develop faster. omg
Do you realized you just debunked your entire argument? It's WGT's rules that allows players to restrict their replays in the first place.
You have one serious misconception between rules and owing the community anything.
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I fail to understand the problem; no one is forcing anyone to play WGT, if anything be happy they even allow anyone to restrict their replays in the first place - it beats bitching about "less points" awarded by a long shot.
So in short; play and enjoy the free competitive ladder, accept the restriction rules or start watching the ice capades.
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ok so Skew restricted his replays, download some else's reps. big whoop.
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restricted replays =sux = hackers
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How come?
There will be a working anti-hack ready for season 14, if you are suspicious of someone you can still ask admins to check him, administrators have access to restricted replays and everyone has access to matchlist and game info - in other words, no real abuse is possible.
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So does anyone have any idea when the s14 is starting?
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On May 31 2007 04:37 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2007 03:29 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Did savior owe the community to release his replays at the WWI, yes apperently coz that was the rules. if wgt would have rules that reps are released then they fucking owe it.
Its for entertaining the community, i dont care if he plays for himself only, without the community he would play vs computer lol
do i owe the community not to hack when i play? no.. ofcourse i dont OWE anyone anything but that doesnt mean should do whatever i want
The best way to get new players to play BW and get good, wich we all want is to let them watch replays from good players and develop faster. omg Do you realized you just debunked your entire argument? It's WGT's rules that allows players to restrict their replays in the first place. You have one serious misconception between rules and owing the community anything.
you're too stupid to argue with...
I want WGT rules to change so that u cannot restrict.. understand better now?
And that wasnt the most important thing of my post.
If new players wont be allowed to download replays from better players its going to be hard for them to catch up.. we want new players right?
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Fuck, you non-playing dudes are greedy as hell.
Its every players decision if they want to restrict their replays or not. PGT didn't even use replays at all and that was the most popular ladder so far (taking in mind WGT just went for a beta season, im sure they'll outclass PGT as soon as real season starts)
You know what, if you want WGT to succeed as much as PGT did, let them have restricted replays. Because theres no friggin way koreans will be allowed / tempted to play on a ladder where people can download their replays.
Skew doesn't owe the community shit, he plays on a ladder for himself and to gain skill. Bunch of idiots coming here saying "lol skew you suck and yet you restrict your replays lololol" SO WHAT? Its his decision, maybe he's practicing strats for WCG or whatever, and that would be interesting for his WCG opponents.
Ladder was never about entertaining the non-playing members of this community, thats what we have showgames, rivalgames, streamed clanwars, hell streamed games from korea etc.. for. Ladder is a place where competitve players can practice and PLAY for something. Not to show off for the community.
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merz, most op the top players are playing to show off or to "entertain the non-playing members of this community".they can get games vs other top gamers by simply asking... they dont need a ladder pretext.
im sure light didnt come on wgt for training purpose lol
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Im sure light didnt come to get his replays downloaded which usually are only available through VOD's too.
Light came cause it's literally fun to bash the fuck out of everyone and play a ladder, still not to entertain you or anyone else. And who knows playing foreigners might be fun for him as he only plays Koreans most of the time.
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Canada9720 Posts
On May 31 2007 08:00 AnOth3rDAy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2007 04:37 NeoIllusions wrote:On May 31 2007 03:29 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Did savior owe the community to release his replays at the WWI, yes apperently coz that was the rules. if wgt would have rules that reps are released then they fucking owe it.
Its for entertaining the community, i dont care if he plays for himself only, without the community he would play vs computer lol
do i owe the community not to hack when i play? no.. ofcourse i dont OWE anyone anything but that doesnt mean should do whatever i want
The best way to get new players to play BW and get good, wich we all want is to let them watch replays from good players and develop faster. omg Do you realized you just debunked your entire argument? It's WGT's rules that allows players to restrict their replays in the first place. You have one serious misconception between rules and owing the community anything. you're too stupid to argue with... I want WGT rules to change so that u cannot restrict.. understand better now? And that wasnt the most important thing of my post. If new players wont be allowed to download replays from better players its going to be hard for them to catch up.. we want new players right?
there are plenty of replay sites and replay resources available -- ygclan, gosugamers, sc.replays.net all have plenty of regular reps. quit bitching, if a player wants control of hi replay, that's certainly reasonable.
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"Skew doesn't owe the community shit, he plays on a ladder for himself and to gain skill."
well if u knew how to read merz u would know that skew plays for his entertainment and a small group of friends...so theres no reason for him to complain about losing pts for replay restrict....
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On May 31 2007 08:00 AnOth3rDAy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2007 04:37 NeoIllusions wrote:On May 31 2007 03:29 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Did savior owe the community to release his replays at the WWI, yes apperently coz that was the rules. if wgt would have rules that reps are released then they fucking owe it.
Its for entertaining the community, i dont care if he plays for himself only, without the community he would play vs computer lol
do i owe the community not to hack when i play? no.. ofcourse i dont OWE anyone anything but that doesnt mean should do whatever i want
The best way to get new players to play BW and get good, wich we all want is to let them watch replays from good players and develop faster. omg Do you realized you just debunked your entire argument? It's WGT's rules that allows players to restrict their replays in the first place. You have one serious misconception between rules and owing the community anything. you're too stupid to argue with... If new players wont be allowed to download replays from better players its going to be hard for them to catch up.. we want new players right?
LOL, hes stupid? hahaha. This is the mouse eating the cat...
You want new players, I want new players BUT APPARENTLY(sp?) HE DOESN'T WANT / HE DOESN'T CARE / HE DOESN'T WANNA USE HIS REPS TO BRING NEW PLAYERS. HIS REPLAYS NOT OUR REPS. Lets just play 10 hours a day to be good and help the bw community, mmm ok?
PS: I love players such as midian, nony/other that I don't remember that uploaded reps packs, FPVods, posted in the strategy forum etc. But I don't have the right to criticize the ones that don't do that, simply because 99% of bw players aren't payed to play this game. 100 more people playing BW because they can see Skews reps(I doubt your theory, but..) won't change that.
PPS: I really doubt your theory about "more replays more players". Btw, you'll find better replays in sites such as ygclan.com, sc.replays.net than ladder reps in WGT.
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for the 100th fucking time, im not criticizing him for restricting replays but for bitching and moaning for the ungodly 10% penalty he must receive
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I think the WGT rules are fine.
-10% for restricting replays seems fine.
All they need is an anti-hack and they are set.
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Its obvious.
Replay restrict will be better for the few good players and worse for everyone else. Thats my oppinion... Im not bitching, Im saying i dont like it... you are bitching with me though, writing in capslock etc, childish.
The reason i called him stupid was that he read a few lines in what i had to say and critizised me for that..
The replay restrict will be worse for me since i wanna start play zerg and download replays with zvp from favourite players. And i think most players liked the fact that they could download replays from WGT.
and hey, dont say something like "i dont care if its worse for u" coz i dont care if you dont care.. see my point?
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Merz is it really so greedy to want to be able to dl reps of good players? Like i said before if the player is only playing to practice, why would he care about the 10% penalty? Noone is asking for the replay restriction option be removed, but a 10% penalty is fair for all parts.
Also the success of pgt as opposed to wgt is in the eye of the beholder I guess, I mean pgt was a ladder with the top 150 being korean smurfs, successful for sure but imho wgt is greater for the community the way it is. What wouldn't you give to be able to dl all of those pgt reps btw?
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Do you people really care THAT much for those precious replays... Shit.. most people didn't even restrict their replays.. stop complaining.
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I don't really care whether the players restrict their replays or not. Its really up to them whether they want to or not. I agree with CultureMisfits, most players don't restrict their replays.
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10- is fine for restricting replays, and sometimes people like to keep it semi-private so as to keep builds and such secret. Anoth3rDay you're making a bigger deal out of this than it needs to be. Like CultureMisfits said, there are plenty of other players that don't restrict and many players that do (I know a couple) are happy to give you reps if you are polite and don't release them.
In the end it's their choice. You have no right to decide whether they can keep it confidential or not. Most good players have access to other skilled gamers so they could just confine themselves to playing them, or they could bring activity to a ladder by playing it. -_- Stop acting as if you're entitled to them.
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On May 31 2007 10:20 MorningWood wrote:
"Skew doesn't owe the community shit, he plays on a ladder for himself and to gain skill."
well if u knew how to read merz u would know that skew plays for his entertainment and a small group of friends...so theres no reason for him to complain about losing pts for replay restrict....
Yeah sry didn't read that post, that however doesn't change that he owes you nothing. And what do you call playing for entertainment? I'd say that is playing for himself.
On May 31 2007 11:52 ishob wrote:
Merz is it really so greedy to want to be able to dl reps of good players? Like i said before if the player is only playing to practice, why would he care about the 10% penalty? Noone is asking for the replay restriction option be removed, but a 10% penalty is fair for all parts.
Also the success of pgt as opposed to wgt is in the eye of the beholder I guess, I mean pgt was a ladder with the top 150 being korean smurfs, successful for sure but imho wgt is greater for the community the way it is. What wouldn't you give to be able to dl all of those pgt reps btw?
It's not greedy as long as you only put it that way. But when people start flaming the players and the system just cause they claim they have right to watch em, things start going bad.
And to answer the last question, I sure as hell wouldn't trade PGT's success for accessing all those replays. And you forget to think about if the reps were made public, maybe there wouldn't be "all those reps" to download hence koreans would be scared off.
One question though, why do you think PGT had top150 filled with korean smurfs? And yeah sure it's greater for the community, but if the players choose not to play just because of it, will there even be a community in the long run?
And something I'd like to make clear:
I did not know players were complaining about the -10% pts restriction. That's reasonable from wgtours side imo. You restrict your replays, while others expose them, of course ther has to be some "downside" with restricting them.
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now i agree 100% with merz that he has read the thread ;D
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how can it take so much time to get up a new sever ?
were we once again betrayed ?
; )
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how are you betrayed at all? I hate dumb ass comments like this.
1) Season 14 won't start until all BUGS are fixed . All the bugs are not fixed yet, so it won't start.
2) Even with new server... WGT won't start until bugs are fixed, so it doesn't matter about the server, but by the time bugs are fixed, new server will be up and running.
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They ordered the server so it's not like they are "betraying us" You rather have a white page saying "server load too high" all the time or a working season? ;o
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guees what the what the fucking ; ) smilie was for..
any ideas ??
^o^
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Skew
how the hell do i think that? every fucking time i post about myself i admit im nothing in sc. i know that, everyone elses know that, i dont give a shit. i dont play this game to make anyone care. i play for a very small group of friends and to entertain myself. my replays arent your property, so fuck off.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, the first and last time i played you on europe, i think you bmed me after for like 15min on op tot).
You're a joke.
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merz....................... ;(
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Braavos36374 Posts
On May 31 2007 11:48 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Its obvious.
Replay restrict will be better for the few good players and worse for everyone else. Thats my oppinion... Im not bitching, Im saying i dont like it... you are bitching with me though, writing in capslock etc, childish.
The reason i called him stupid was that he read a few lines in what i had to say and critizised me for that..
The replay restrict will be worse for me since i wanna start play zerg and download replays with zvp from favourite players. And i think most players liked the fact that they could download replays from WGT.
and hey, dont say something like "i dont care if its worse for u" coz i dont care if you dont care.. see my point?
you seem to believe that its the community's right to download every practice game replay played on a ladder. this is simply not the case. as CTStalker said, there are plenty of sources to learn from, whether it be YGClan or YaoYuan or the many replay packs made by good players here.
yes many players liked the replay feature from WGT but again, there's no rule or contract stating that replays should be public. i don't know why you see that as some sort of injustice, that a top player would not want his practice games released. they are the player's games and it is WGT's decision to include the replay-restrict feature.
you seem to believe you're entitled to all replays because somehow it will "make the community worse" by having replay restrict even though this is completely not the case, and then you flame and call people stupid for disagreeing with you when you're the one making illogical assumptions.
if you don't like replay restrict, PM skew or the WGT organizers and ask nicely, if that doesn't work simply don't play WGT. there is nothing else you can really do. skew and WGT don't "owe" the you or the community replays or anything for that matter.
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On May 31 2007 14:49 meRz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2007 10:20 MorningWood wrote:
"Skew doesn't owe the community shit, he plays on a ladder for himself and to gain skill."
well if u knew how to read merz u would know that skew plays for his entertainment and a small group of friends...so theres no reason for him to complain about losing pts for replay restrict.... Yeah sry didn't read that post, that however doesn't change that he owes you nothing. And what do you call playing for entertainment? I'd say that is playing for himself. Show nested quote +On May 31 2007 11:52 ishob wrote:
Merz is it really so greedy to want to be able to dl reps of good players? Like i said before if the player is only playing to practice, why would he care about the 10% penalty? Noone is asking for the replay restriction option be removed, but a 10% penalty is fair for all parts.
Also the success of pgt as opposed to wgt is in the eye of the beholder I guess, I mean pgt was a ladder with the top 150 being korean smurfs, successful for sure but imho wgt is greater for the community the way it is. What wouldn't you give to be able to dl all of those pgt reps btw? It's not greedy as long as you only put it that way. But when people start flaming the players and the system just cause they claim they have right to watch em, things start going bad. And to answer the last question, I sure as hell wouldn't trade PGT's success for accessing all those replays. And you forget to think about if the reps were made public, maybe there wouldn't be "all those reps" to download hence koreans would be scared off. One question though, why do you think PGT had top150 filled with korean smurfs? And yeah sure it's greater for the community, but if the players choose not to play just because of it, will there even be a community in the long run? And something I'd like to make clear: I did not know players were complaining about the -10% pts restriction. That's reasonable from wgtours side imo. You restrict your replays, while others expose them, of course ther has to be some "downside" with restricting them.
I think I dissagree with about 90% of everything you just said...
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I would rather have strong korean involvement than reps for every single player.
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Who really cares?
If some players restrict, so be it. There's plenty more to choose from.
I think the system is actually a really good idea and to be honest I really like it and think it's fine.
Players shouldn't really complain about a -10% for restricting, and people shouldn't really complain about players restricting. (Unless they're all doing it), then it's just a bit silly).
I don't intend to restrict my own replays if I start playing when I get home, but I can understand why some people would. For instance, Americans may have American WCG coming up. And despite what they say, it's obvious many of them really want to win it. But if I were to practice for WCG using WGTour, I might restrict.
Shrug.
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But you can just download replays from other players whats the point !?
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You can't when the new season is released
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the penalty still has no point. folks, like me, who use it for warmup and practice want to use their usual builds, but don't want them available to onlookers. why on earth should i take a 10% penalty for that? the only thing it does is make me feel negatively towards wgtour. no one's going to get the replays because of it.
if you really want replays from someone, just ask. you don't have to be a dick about it and give them a bad time for it on a forum. i can tell you that there is no player in the bw scene that wouldn't be happy someone is asking them for replays (even if they deny it because they think they already get too many requests).
on top of that, we're going to lose koreans for it. you can say we wont, but we will. i know that the way i feel about my replays is a fraction of what korean amateurs and pros feel about their own. i know why certain posters at ygclan have only 1 arm and 4 toes on their feet.
anyways, no one that makes these decisions is probably paying attention to this thread, so ill have to find that extra 5 minutes a day to make up that fucking wasteful 10% loss. son of a bitch =(
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On June 03 2007 07:51 Skew wrote:
i know why certain posters at ygclan have only 1 arm and 4 toes on their feet.
=(
ahahah made my day
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I'm just wondering when the FUCK WGT gonna be back up and running again? It's like they teased us for a couple of weeks with sweet honey, then left us waiting in a sink of pig shit. FUCK THOSE EXCUSES about bugs and insects, its gonna take ages for Mister Blizz to fix it. The least they could've done was to leave the server at beta season.
BB WGT T.T, holy mother of fuck.
edit: fucking typos all over the place.
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i dunnno they should put the beta back on ... i dont really care about the site saying server overload but i just want to play -_-
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But other people care Laz. And we still have CL/NW to run, not just a ladder.
And its not you who has to deal with the massive amount of complaints due to disconnections/crashes caused by the new patch.
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I'll say it again.
Restricting replays is fine.
The -10% loss for it is also fine.
Seems great and really enjoyable.
It definitely won't deter koreans.
It won't make finding a game harder.
Come WCG time, it gives players a chance to hide builds yet still mass-game.
It's a really great idea. And 10% seems very fair.
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There should be a feature which allows a person who has restricted their replays to allow the download of some games that they have played.
Maybe people who restrict will be kind enough to release a few games now and then...
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10% deduction is a bitch, i experienced it during the beta season where i played 1+ rank always but would get the same amount of points as if i played a player with the same rank as me, you rank up so slowly that it really isnt worth restricting ur reps if ur in it to be "seen", however if its wcg practice ofc restricting reps is understandable
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i think u are exagerating a bit... 10% means for every 10 games u have to play 1 more.... thats 15 minutes.
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god some hardcore idiots in there..
what do you find better ?
A ladder where everyone can watch everyones replays ?
Or dou you prefear the ladder where no one can watch any replay ? ( like pgtour ? )
I think both isnt the best idea, but that restrict thing and the ( - 10 % ) is like the best way ever to solve this issue. Good enough players wont mind that they have 200 points less after 20 games and bad players dont care that someones gonna see their replays.
Like how stupid would it be if u didnt get -10% if u restrict your replays ? Everyone would restrict for sure then.
And if you are training for wcg then restricting is no problem at all, because if u train for wcg u dont give a single fucking shit about how much points you get. You just want to train, after all.. and not make a good place..
So seriously, all these guys who are flaming this '' 10 % rule '' and are saying the sytsme sucks, plz use your brains and dont ffs think you are boxer or savior..
PhiL
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I guess restriction could be good at the very ranks, where theres very few players and it would be worth it to look at there replays to see there style in the MUs
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Osaka27139 Posts
WGTour bashing in this thread is not acceptable. Do not fucking do it.
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Osaka27139 Posts
On May 29 2007 18:37 MorningWood wrote:
all the games autosave into the leagues folder that u had to download to play wgt
Program Files -> Starcraft -> Leagues -> Wgtour and u will find every single league game replay that u ever played....there are just numbered tho so u would just have to search for the replay of the right player
A lot of people dont realize this, so it is a good point. In addition, to search quickly you can use ReXplorer written by Taiche. You can find it here: http://repasm.free.fr/rx/
If you install this, simply highlighting a replay will bring up the players, positions, race, and apm of each rep.
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USA29055 Posts
ty for quoting that mani, i missed it and wondered about this.
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Osaka27139 Posts
In addition, LibertyTerran is banned for a week for flaming WGT like an idiot. TL and WGT go way, way back, and flaming people who vollunteer to run one of the largest, oldest, and best BW sites on earth is a sure ticket to disneyland. The debate about rep availibility is fine (although ideally would be made in another thread) but flaming people when you have ZERO knowledge about what it takes to run something like that is nothx.
For the record this is his second ban for flaming WGT. The other time was when he told the lead admin to "stfu".
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So when you restrict reps and you play someone who doesn't retrict reps can you DL the rep from the person who deosn't restrict? You might of asnwered this arleady but i don't feel like reading 38 pages o_O
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You could in beta, you won't be able to in season 14. Its enough to read 1-2 pages back and teh thing discussed now will be there for sure
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mani are u guys still doing tl ladder (with launcher)? or now that wgt is back are u just gonna run tlt, the paid ladder on wgt?
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