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[ASL4] Grand Finals Flash vs Hero - Page 7

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Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
November 12 2017 08:52 GMT
#121
On November 12 2017 17:49 valaki wrote:
lmao @ the guys who though hero would be just as good as Bisu, SK or Larva. Now you get a 1 hour 3-0 show.


Yea this totally couldn't have happened to anyone else... just a cheese loss, those tend to go fast.
And let's not pretend pretend bisu put on a show... he had 0 chance as well and looked like a noob in all games vs flash...
Same probably goes for the other two...
its me
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4189 Posts
November 12 2017 08:53 GMT
#122
On November 12 2017 17:51 jtan wrote:
Amazing defence from hero though, he lost almost no drones with 3 hatch vs proxy 8rax. He could totally have beaten a lesser player.


How was that amazing defence lol, he let the marines get up the ramp uncontested and let Flash build a bunker in his mineral line. He should have tried drone drilling when the marines went up the ramp. The moment those marines got behind the mineral line it was over.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10569 Posts
November 12 2017 08:54 GMT
#123
On November 12 2017 17:49 valaki wrote:
lmao @ the guys who though hero would be just as good as Bisu, SK or Larva. Now you get a 1 hour 3-0 show.

having a build order loss doesnt mean anything...... why are people so quick to circlejerk against hero? he knows this map is a very eco heavy map, he wanted an advantage to counter 14cc which is what he thought flash was going to do. do i agree with no drone scout? no. but he went for a metagame call and it didnt pay off.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 12 2017 08:55 GMT
#124
On November 12 2017 17:54 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 17:49 valaki wrote:
lmao @ the guys who though hero would be just as good as Bisu, SK or Larva. Now you get a 1 hour 3-0 show.

having a build order loss doesnt mean anything...... why are people so quick to circlejerk against hero? he knows this map is a very eco heavy map, he wanted an advantage to counter 14cc which is what he thought flash was going to do. do i agree with no drone scout? no. but he went for a metagame call and it didnt pay off.

forgot that hero was your #2 choice a while back haha
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1154 Posts
November 12 2017 08:55 GMT
#125
On November 12 2017 17:53 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 17:51 jtan wrote:
Amazing defence from hero though, he lost almost no drones with 3 hatch vs proxy 8rax. He could totally have beaten a lesser player.


How was that amazing defence lol, he let the marines get up the ramp uncontested and let Flash build a bunker in his mineral line. He should have tried drone drilling when the marines went up the ramp. The moment those marines got behind the mineral line it was over.

He can only drill if he has an overlord near minerals. I'm not sure, but I don't think he did at the time? I could just be making excuses for him though.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 12 2017 08:56 GMT
#126
Wait, is that Reach?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
November 12 2017 08:56 GMT
#127
Reach feel like not age at all!!! Compare to Baxter.......and...so many others.......
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10569 Posts
November 12 2017 08:56 GMT
#128
On November 12 2017 17:55 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 17:54 FlaShFTW wrote:
On November 12 2017 17:49 valaki wrote:
lmao @ the guys who though hero would be just as good as Bisu, SK or Larva. Now you get a 1 hour 3-0 show.

having a build order loss doesnt mean anything...... why are people so quick to circlejerk against hero? he knows this map is a very eco heavy map, he wanted an advantage to counter 14cc which is what he thought flash was going to do. do i agree with no drone scout? no. but he went for a metagame call and it didnt pay off.

forgot that hero was your #2 choice a while back haha

hell yeah. back when his ZvT wasnt total trash lol
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
November 12 2017 08:57 GMT
#129
On November 12 2017 17:53 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 17:51 jtan wrote:
Amazing defence from hero though, he lost almost no drones with 3 hatch vs proxy 8rax. He could totally have beaten a lesser player.


How was that amazing defence lol, he let the marines get up the ramp uncontested and let Flash build a bunker in his mineral line. He should have tried drone drilling when the marines went up the ramp. The moment those marines got behind the mineral line it was over.

I expected hero to gg when he saw two marines and had no pool, but he did the best he could under the circumstances, he didn't even die to the vulture/wraith follow up.
Enter a Uh
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
November 12 2017 08:57 GMT
#130
On November 12 2017 17:56 BigFan wrote:
Wait, is that Reach?

...you didn't notice the sudden surge of testosterone just by watching this?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1717 Posts
November 12 2017 08:57 GMT
#131
Man toss!!
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
Zabimaru
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom132 Posts
November 12 2017 08:57 GMT
#132
Reach is looking snazzy. :O
To Death we shall all go.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 12 2017 08:57 GMT
#133
On November 12 2017 17:55 xccam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 17:53 Dante08 wrote:
On November 12 2017 17:51 jtan wrote:
Amazing defence from hero though, he lost almost no drones with 3 hatch vs proxy 8rax. He could totally have beaten a lesser player.


How was that amazing defence lol, he let the marines get up the ramp uncontested and let Flash build a bunker in his mineral line. He should have tried drone drilling when the marines went up the ramp. The moment those marines got behind the mineral line it was over.

He can only drill if he has an overlord near minerals. I'm not sure, but I don't think he did at the time? I could just be making excuses for him though.

no, you're right. His OL was far to the left, over the cliff. Not in vision of minerals.

On November 12 2017 17:56 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 17:55 BigFan wrote:
On November 12 2017 17:54 FlaShFTW wrote:
On November 12 2017 17:49 valaki wrote:
lmao @ the guys who though hero would be just as good as Bisu, SK or Larva. Now you get a 1 hour 3-0 show.

having a build order loss doesnt mean anything...... why are people so quick to circlejerk against hero? he knows this map is a very eco heavy map, he wanted an advantage to counter 14cc which is what he thought flash was going to do. do i agree with no drone scout? no. but he went for a metagame call and it didnt pay off.

forgot that hero was your #2 choice a while back haha

hell yeah. back when his ZvT wasnt total trash lol

So, what you're saying is, you only supported hero because his ZvT was good but when his form dipped, you abandoned ship?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
November 12 2017 08:58 GMT
#134
reach is the most handsome dude
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 12 2017 08:58 GMT
#135
On November 12 2017 17:57 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 17:56 BigFan wrote:
Wait, is that Reach?

...you didn't notice the sudden surge of testosterone just by watching this?

haha well ~
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
November 12 2017 08:58 GMT
#136
On November 12 2017 17:55 xccam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 17:53 Dante08 wrote:
On November 12 2017 17:51 jtan wrote:
Amazing defence from hero though, he lost almost no drones with 3 hatch vs proxy 8rax. He could totally have beaten a lesser player.


How was that amazing defence lol, he let the marines get up the ramp uncontested and let Flash build a bunker in his mineral line. He should have tried drone drilling when the marines went up the ramp. The moment those marines got behind the mineral line it was over.

He can only drill if he has an overlord near minerals. I'm not sure, but I don't think he did at the time? I could just be making excuses for him though.


Pretty sure he didnt have vision as his drones were bumping into each other... so yea no vision or he just didnt use it (which i cant imagine)...
its me
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10569 Posts
November 12 2017 08:58 GMT
#137
On November 12 2017 17:57 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 17:55 xccam wrote:
On November 12 2017 17:53 Dante08 wrote:
On November 12 2017 17:51 jtan wrote:
Amazing defence from hero though, he lost almost no drones with 3 hatch vs proxy 8rax. He could totally have beaten a lesser player.


How was that amazing defence lol, he let the marines get up the ramp uncontested and let Flash build a bunker in his mineral line. He should have tried drone drilling when the marines went up the ramp. The moment those marines got behind the mineral line it was over.

He can only drill if he has an overlord near minerals. I'm not sure, but I don't think he did at the time? I could just be making excuses for him though.

no, you're right. His OL was far to the left, over the cliff. Not in vision of minerals.

Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 17:56 FlaShFTW wrote:
On November 12 2017 17:55 BigFan wrote:
On November 12 2017 17:54 FlaShFTW wrote:
On November 12 2017 17:49 valaki wrote:
lmao @ the guys who though hero would be just as good as Bisu, SK or Larva. Now you get a 1 hour 3-0 show.

having a build order loss doesnt mean anything...... why are people so quick to circlejerk against hero? he knows this map is a very eco heavy map, he wanted an advantage to counter 14cc which is what he thought flash was going to do. do i agree with no drone scout? no. but he went for a metagame call and it didnt pay off.

forgot that hero was your #2 choice a while back haha

hell yeah. back when his ZvT wasnt total trash lol

So, what you're saying is, you only supported hero because his ZvT was good but when his form dipped, you abandoned ship?

ofc not i still love hero. i still think his ZvT style was super innovative and good against older terran builds
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-12 09:01:37
November 12 2017 09:00 GMT
#138
^ well, guess #1 vs #2, hero has no chance to grab your heart

Any KRs around that want to translate what Reach and Sharp said, TL;DR?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
November 12 2017 09:02 GMT
#139
On November 12 2017 17:53 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 17:51 jtan wrote:
Amazing defence from hero though, he lost almost no drones with 3 hatch vs proxy 8rax. He could totally have beaten a lesser player.


How was that amazing defence lol, he let the marines get up the ramp uncontested and let Flash build a bunker in his mineral line. He should have tried drone drilling when the marines went up the ramp. The moment those marines got behind the mineral line it was over.


You can't try something as weak as that against Flash. He leads with the SCV to go highground and has a bunker behind him that he can walk towards, he's going to see a drone drill coming and has 4 marines. The slightest of micro by Flash and he just kills all the drones. Hero respected Flash's skill by NOT trying that.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
November 12 2017 09:03 GMT
#140
On November 12 2017 18:00 BigFan wrote:
^ well, guess #1 vs #2, hero has no chance to grab your heart

Any KRs around that want to translate what Reach and Sharp said, TL;DR?

Gist I got from the main stream was Reach being a fan of FlaSh, Sharp being a fan of herO and Stargirl trying to get Reach to take her out to dinner.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
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