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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
May 03 2007 05:46 GMT
#301
On May:16 KizZBG wrote:
Got all of these bets right :D

hollaback ! :D
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
May 03 2007 06:17 GMT
#302
Bisu better changes his only strat against zerg or hell lose to ling rush yet again.. we are seeing the first real test of Bisu 's flexibility.
sOnagi[3.33]
Profile Joined November 2006
Korea (South)886 Posts
May 03 2007 06:46 GMT
#303
+ Show Spoiler +

oversky's ling usage was sickk

i had hoped that freedom would take out bisu...that first time he lost his first tank...the second tank..and then the reaver usage...bisu is a pretty calm player. i would have lost my nerve if i'd gotten center rax rushed like that.
서지훈, XellOs[yG]: the Perfect Terran...이성은, FireBatHero: braQ Terran.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-03 07:01:52
May 03 2007 06:55 GMT
#304
I just watched the vods and I wanna ask a question, did child knew what is the landscape of Loki map, or he just learned it throughout tha game??
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1032 Posts
May 03 2007 06:56 GMT
#305
Oversky vs Bisu rocked. What a nice ling micro! Actually I thought Bisu would get rushed to death by Child already (and then by Oversky), but then I realized it was Monty Hall... no rushes there!

No but seriously, Bisu needs to variate his BO vs Zerg cause fast nexus into sairs DT is way too predictable for his opponents by now, thus the rushes.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-03 07:05:24
May 03 2007 07:01 GMT
#306
I respect Oversky's choice to go all-in 3 hatch speedling vs. Bisu. Loosing that scouting probe forced Bisu to play a little blind and hope for a normal game. Instead, what he got was Oversky making a good in-game gamble on typical pro protoss stinginess on early-game spending by going with the rush, seeing that Bisu didn't make a 3rd cannon early on (with ovie) and probably wouldn't build more. Oversky did some good anti-scouting measures in the game, by how he tried to deny probe scouts out Bisu's front expo entrance and blocked his own ramp.

Going 9 pool speedling against Terran, though, is pretty much a blind gamble from the start. 9 pool speedling isn't considered unrecoverable as a failed rush can revert back into a normal build with a couple hatcheries and some later powering, but honestly, if it doesn't do great damage early on, it pretty much always loses. It's like a stylized 5 pool.

edit: FE follow-ups don't really diverge in terms of unit count (unless some wacko 3 gate no gas Reach-throw-a-game-in-tourney-with-foreigners build) until after the phase where 3 hat ling would strike. The problem was the scouting probe dying rather than the intended sair/DT build after the FE. A citadel -> 3 gate speedlot build would have fared the same.
yakii *
Profile Joined June 2006
Korea (South)1448 Posts
May 03 2007 07:26 GMT
#307
On May 03 2007 10:39 KizZBG wrote:
Cool, thanks. So Dcinside can upload VODs from MBC again?


She just uploaded them. Hope Dcinside don't delete her posts.
사마난
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1032 Posts
May 03 2007 08:10 GMT
#308
Yeah, obviously it was a scouting error but I meant that Bisu could at least have had the minerals to add some more cannons and another gate if he didn't waste everything on nexus/probes (which he only used to block the attacks anyway). When his probe died, he immediately warped in 2 cannons at his forge followed by a nexus... after that he never reached 3 or more cannons. Why not play more safe and wait for another scout before expanding?

The rush vs terran was pretty much a gamble, especially on such a long distance between the bases... just nowadays about 75% of terrans go FE so it's not a bad gamble, not on such a large map anyway. I encourage rushes cause of the % FE reason and that it's a powerful advantage Zerg has, that they should take use of. I have no idea why someone as a terran would go FE on a double gas main though...
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
May 03 2007 10:39 GMT
#309
Anyone know if the video are going/are on YouTube?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Tarte
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada933 Posts
May 03 2007 10:54 GMT
#310
wtf Oversky > Bisu
L O V E Y O U
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 03 2007 13:47 GMT
#311
Oversky is pretty good, I don't know why you people can't seem to understand it.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
May 03 2007 14:00 GMT
#312
Bisu needs to vary his PvZ pretty soon here. Or maybe he's playing double-reverse psychology?
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 03 2007 16:01 GMT
#313
double reverse psychology never works
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
May 03 2007 20:22 GMT
#314
On May 03 2007 22:47 Ace wrote:
Oversky is pretty good, I don't know why you people can't seem to understand it.


I know, Oversky's one of the best 2v2's out there and it showed why.
His early game control is eggggg sellant
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
WastedYouth
Profile Joined March 2006
United States563 Posts
May 04 2007 00:26 GMT
#315
bisu fighting~ o_Ov
Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. Skill is what happens when luck becomes habit
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
May 04 2007 05:49 GMT
#316
Any results where Bisu makes it through are awesome, but Oversky can go play in traffic.

Crappy player for a long time and he gays out 2 players in a row with ling builds to get a spot. I hope he gets fist fucked in the next round. What a chump.
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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
May 04 2007 05:55 GMT
#317
On May 04 2007 14:49 ManaBlue wrote:
Any results where Bisu makes it through are awesome, but Oversky can go play in traffic.

Crappy player for a long time and he gays out 2 players in a row with ling builds to get a spot. I hope he gets fist fucked in the next round. What a chump.


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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 04 2007 07:46 GMT
#318
On May 04 2007 14:49 ManaBlue wrote:
Any results where Bisu makes it through are awesome, but Oversky can go play in traffic.

Crappy player for a long time and he gays out 2 players in a row with ling builds to get a spot. I hope he gets fist fucked in the next round. What a chump.


I actually liked the fact that he early game raped both players convincingly. All these FE/Macro builds need to fucking die. With Oversky showing that a ling rush/early game strat may be in his arsenal now players have to think about going straight to macro mode.


Oversky FTW!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
May 04 2007 09:44 GMT
#319
Funny how most of Bisus fans who critisize Oversky for the allin ling cheese, are the same who says "a win is a win" "the best player won" etc
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