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CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
October 10 2017 11:24 GMT
#221
OMG. Jaedong just threw a loss away. Why didnt he focus his mutas all the time? There was nothing else he could focus!!! Can't believe this. Also poor decision to go back with all mutas, he could have sent one muta back to prevent losing and kill drones with the remaining mutas + scourge.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 10 2017 11:24 GMT
#222
On October 10 2017 20:23 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Oh wow, JD mutas running straight into the scourge. gg

this. Jaedong should've went straight for the main, left one muta back to defend and committed to the attack before spores were up.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
October 10 2017 11:25 GMT
#223
On October 10 2017 20:24 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2017 20:23 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Oh wow, JD mutas running straight into the scourge. gg

this. Jaedong should've went straight for the main, left one muta back to defend and committed to the attack before spores were up.


Exactly. Incredibly poor decision making by the ZvZ master. Funnily enough i had a ZvZ like that just yesterday, i ended up winning with just one muta against a helpless Z base. Just send one muta back to deal with the lings and kill the enemies drones as fast as you can.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4411 Posts
October 10 2017 11:25 GMT
#224
Well as I see it the best 4 players in the tournament have won the four #1 spots -_- that's incredible. I think #5 'should' be Rain but I'm completely hoping and basically praying for JD.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 10 2017 11:25 GMT
#225
On October 10 2017 20:19 ortseam wrote:
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On October 10 2017 20:10 PVJ wrote:
I'll have to rewatch what happened there in the middle when his third went down but that was pretty weird. Good surround against lurkers but then that hero lurker was left there to kill the nexus.

JD was never behind, since he could spam drones after the rush, since Stork has 0 gates. After that, 3 first templars sniped and pure zealots can't fight against lurker composition

Sorry, only read this now. I never said JD was ever behind. I am just thinking (out loud) that I will want to rewatch that specific minute from the match to more clearly see what happened.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10569 Posts
October 10 2017 11:25 GMT
#226
yeah jaedong threw hard. he was all in anyways after the drones died anyways, shouldve just gone for the kill.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 10 2017 11:26 GMT
#227
On October 10 2017 20:25 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2017 20:24 BigFan wrote:
On October 10 2017 20:23 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Oh wow, JD mutas running straight into the scourge. gg

this. Jaedong should've went straight for the main, left one muta back to defend and committed to the attack before spores were up.


Exactly. Incredibly poor decision making by the ZvZ master. Funnily enough i had a ZvZ like that just yesterday, i ended up winning with just one muta against a helpless Z base. Just send one muta back to deal with the lings and kill the enemies drones as fast as you can.

SK had no AA. Jaedong also not watching his mutas and running into scourge ...
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
traxamillion
Profile Joined August 2016
104 Posts
October 10 2017 11:26 GMT
#228
Na Golgotha the wouldnt have been guaranteed and the main reason he goes for it is because he will be at a huge disadvantage later in the game the way his bases are split. SK can send lings both places which is basically GGS at that level. JD tried to get sneaky and it just got sniffed out so he was at a big disadvantage off top
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7171 Posts
October 10 2017 11:27 GMT
#229
On October 10 2017 20:25 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2017 20:24 BigFan wrote:
On October 10 2017 20:23 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Oh wow, JD mutas running straight into the scourge. gg

this. Jaedong should've went straight for the main, left one muta back to defend and committed to the attack before spores were up.


Exactly. Incredibly poor decision making by the ZvZ master. Funnily enough i had a ZvZ like that just yesterday, i ended up winning with just one muta against a helpless Z base. Just send one muta back to deal with the lings and kill the enemies drones as fast as you can.

What are you talking about ?let one muta at home will get killed by two scourges easily.and dotn compare your lvl to these guys rofl
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
October 10 2017 11:28 GMT
#230
I don't really watch streams that much is Larva really that good? top 4?
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7171 Posts
October 10 2017 11:28 GMT
#231
On October 10 2017 20:25 FlaShFTW wrote:
yeah jaedong threw hard. he was all in anyways after the drones died anyways, shouldve just gone for the kill.

maybe,but i think he thought letting the lings killing his base will proly not allow him to finish soulkey in time.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10569 Posts
October 10 2017 11:29 GMT
#232
On October 10 2017 20:28 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2017 20:25 FlaShFTW wrote:
yeah jaedong threw hard. he was all in anyways after the drones died anyways, shouldve just gone for the kill.

maybe,but i think he thought letting the lings killing his base will proly not allow him to finish soulkey in time.

i think that he had enough hp on his buildings to first kill off the rest of SKs drones first and then go back home to defend. as long as he maintained over 3 mutas that game he wouldve won.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 10 2017 11:30 GMT
#233
On October 10 2017 20:28 Greg_J wrote:
I don't really watch streams that much is Larva really that good? top 4?

his mechanics are up there for sure. ZvP seems solid and ZvT standard can rival flash.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Levque
Profile Joined October 2016
88 Posts
October 10 2017 11:30 GMT
#234
ya that was not a throw...1 muta back home was not a guarantee of anything.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7171 Posts
October 10 2017 11:30 GMT
#235
On October 10 2017 20:29 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2017 20:28 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On October 10 2017 20:25 FlaShFTW wrote:
yeah jaedong threw hard. he was all in anyways after the drones died anyways, shouldve just gone for the kill.

maybe,but i think he thought letting the lings killing his base will proly not allow him to finish soulkey in time.

i think that he had enough hp on his buildings to first kill off the rest of SKs drones first and then go back home to defend. as long as he maintained over 3 mutas that game he wouldve won.

yeah do u think that,you are not playing you are watching the game,how will jd knows if more lings are not coming or what soulkeys has in main ?
THE Sliggy
Profile Blog Joined September 2017
Australia65 Posts
October 10 2017 11:31 GMT
#236
Damn, SK is a gangster.
Sliggy: Remastered
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4411 Posts
October 10 2017 11:31 GMT
#237
On October 10 2017 20:28 Greg_J wrote:
I don't really watch streams that much is Larva really that good? top 4?

IMO yes.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
October 10 2017 11:31 GMT
#238
On October 10 2017 20:30 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2017 20:28 Greg_J wrote:
I don't really watch streams that much is Larva really that good? top 4?

his mechanics are up there for sure. ZvP seems solid and ZvT standard can rival flash.

i remember him raging on stream when he kept losing to Jaedong though, funny stuff.
Skol
THE Sliggy
Profile Blog Joined September 2017
Australia65 Posts
October 10 2017 11:32 GMT
#239
On October 10 2017 20:17 tanngard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2017 20:11 THE Sliggy wrote:
On October 10 2017 20:09 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On October 10 2017 20:08 Grettin wrote:
Man Jaedong looks tired :-(

that espn article really did affect you


I'm not aware of this article and I agree JD looks like shit.

And how do you look? Please post a picture of yourself, preferably on a really stressful exam day, so i can comment on how shitty you look. Not that it matters, what matters is youre a douche.


xD
Sliggy: Remastered
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10569 Posts
October 10 2017 11:33 GMT
#240
On October 10 2017 20:30 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2017 20:29 FlaShFTW wrote:
On October 10 2017 20:28 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On October 10 2017 20:25 FlaShFTW wrote:
yeah jaedong threw hard. he was all in anyways after the drones died anyways, shouldve just gone for the kill.

maybe,but i think he thought letting the lings killing his base will proly not allow him to finish soulkey in time.

i think that he had enough hp on his buildings to first kill off the rest of SKs drones first and then go back home to defend. as long as he maintained over 3 mutas that game he wouldve won.

yeah do u think that,you are not playing you are watching the game,how will jd knows if more lings are not coming or what soulkeys has in main ?

this is also true. hindsight is everything
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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