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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 16 2017 05:37 GMT
#181
Not tryin' to throw too much shade cuz it's great that someone's doing this at all, but these are preventable problems
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
October 16 2017 06:40 GMT
#182
Who is Hawk?
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Demurity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States424 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-16 12:19:04
October 16 2017 12:17 GMT
#183
On October 16 2017 15:40 thezanursic wrote:
Who is Hawk?


Good zerg player, I know that he came from SC2, probably played BW before that.

Nyoken is a nice guy; unfortunate that he is just to be made an example of. They really should play it back in a final set :/
|Terran|
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2919 Posts
October 16 2017 14:03 GMT
#184
Yeah, honestly in this format the grand finals should always be a best of 3 sets (bo3 bo3 format) with the person coming out of the winner bracket starting up a Bo3 set and needing to win 1 Bo3 and the person coming out of the loser bracket needing to win 2 Bo3's.

I've also seen straight up Bo5 or Bo7 grand finals with the person coming out of the winner bracket starting up 1-0 because they haven't lost a set yet. Although I personally believe the first format (Bo3 sets of Bo3) is the most fair.

Sucks for Nyoken =\. Hope he qualifies. Definitely a top 4 NA player if not top 1. Shout out to Nyoken and Kawaii whom both wrecked me. GG's all, was fun.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
October 16 2017 15:12 GMT
#185
2 Series final in double elim is definitely the most fair. However, it isn't the best viewer experience. I actually think that a single series final is better for viewership because there is more riding on each of the games. With that being said, I was a little bit disappointed because the bracket said there would be 2 series and it ended up being only 1.

WB advantage just leads to the WB player winning most of the time. (again, fair, but is that really want everyone wants to see?)

I think as long as the information is communicated before the start of the tour, there will be less confusion and disappointment.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
cKranez
Profile Joined August 2017
106 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-17 17:35:57
October 17 2017 17:35 GMT
#186
On October 17 2017 00:12 Eywa- wrote:
2 Series final in double elim is definitely the most fair. However, it isn't the best viewer experience. I actually think that a single series final is better for viewership because there is more riding on each of the games. With that being said, I was a little bit disappointed because the bracket said there would be 2 series and it ended up being only 1.

WB advantage just leads to the WB player winning most of the time. (again, fair, but is that really want everyone wants to see?)

I think as long as the information is communicated before the start of the tour, there will be less confusion and disappointment.


I totally understand, but from what I was told, the players agreed to one BO5 including Nyoken. Casters and Admins were able to confirm this agreement. Nyoken, however, believed that he had agreed to a double elim, if he lost he'd have a chance to play back from losers, but this was not the case. It was understood as just one BO5 to decide the WINNER.

Again, this was an unfortunate misunderstanding between all parties. Moving forward, all matches will be played and players will not have the ability to choose if they can alter the brackets, even if they both agreed.
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
October 17 2017 18:56 GMT
#187
So what is the format for the grand finals going forward? Just one bo5 or something more?
aka DragOn[NaS]
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
October 17 2017 21:49 GMT
#188
Are we gonna play the entire tournament on saturday or are you guys splitting it into 2 days?
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
CBAS2TheHumanLife
Profile Joined July 2017
Korea (South)29 Posts
October 18 2017 10:10 GMT
#189
for Korean seed I heard Larva got invited
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
October 18 2017 11:17 GMT
#190
is there a wiki thread ?
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
cKranez
Profile Joined August 2017
106 Posts
October 18 2017 21:49 GMT
#191
On October 18 2017 03:56 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
So what is the format for the grand finals going forward? Just one bo5 or something more?


We're going back to the original, double elimination; regardless, if players make an agreement to play any less.

On October 18 2017 06:49 TT1 wrote:
Are we gonna play the entire tournament on saturday or are you guys splitting it into 2 days?


The tournament will be played in it's entirety on Saturday.

On October 18 2017 20:17 Drake wrote:
is there a wiki thread ?


No , how to make one? Please halp.



Be sure to get your entries in guys, this will be the last South American Qualifier available!
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
October 18 2017 23:27 GMT
#192
double elimination with what as the grand finals? Bo5 with 0-1 for the guy who came from loser bracket? two bo3s? two bo5s? How does it work
aka DragOn[NaS]
cKranez
Profile Joined August 2017
106 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-19 22:53:32
October 18 2017 23:42 GMT
#193
On October 19 2017 08:27 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
double elimination with what as the grand finals? Bo5 with 0-1 for the guy who came from loser bracket? two bo3s? two bo5s? How does it work


We're going with Double elim for sure (If loser finalst wins 1st set). In terms of the loser set in GF I will have to check with Battlefy. Will update as soon as I get word.



Update/Edit 10/19 : We've worked out the details GF is now Double Elim - Bo3. If the winner bracket player loses, he will play another BO3. We've changed it to BO3 in order to help minimize the stress a tournament can put on all players.
RaNgeD
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States733 Posts
October 21 2017 12:46 GMT
#194
On October 05 2017 09:23 RaNgeD wrote:
I think if Hawk starts playing a bit more he has a chance to qualify.


boom.
Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. 1 Corinthians 13:7
FrinkX
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States958 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-21 18:58:00
October 21 2017 14:41 GMT
#195
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
October 21 2017 21:55 GMT
#196
Tourney started at 3pm, i played my 1st match and had to wait until 6pm to play my 2nd match ^^. Basically 1 match delayed the entire tournament for several hours because they started late. God knows why they were allowed to play their match in the first place.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
cKranez
Profile Joined August 2017
106 Posts
October 21 2017 22:24 GMT
#197
NA Streams up here : https://www.twitch.tv/zotac_cup
Quentin1
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 21 2017 23:54 GMT
#198
I think it would be nice to add the stream to the streamlist.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51507 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-22 00:14:53
October 22 2017 00:13 GMT
#199
On October 22 2017 06:55 TT1 wrote:
Tourney started at 3pm, i played my 1st match and had to wait until 6pm to play my 2nd match ^^. Basically 1 match delayed the entire tournament for several hours because they started late. God knows why they were allowed to play their match in the first place.


lol why didnt they just DQ the players responsible for the delay? absolutely ridiculous

who is 200eapm?
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
October 22 2017 02:17 GMT
#200
Congrats to the winner!
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