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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On November 02 2017 22:17 RowdierBob wrote: Draco executed a couple of cheesy all-ins very well. The skill gap vs FBH was pretty large. It's too bad FBH didn't cancel his CC, Draco would have won the series. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
The location especially is amazing must be fascinating just to be in the audience. https://www.luccacomicsandgames.com/it/2017/videogames/news/esports-cathedral-anno-2017/ Are there any screenshots, photos how large the crowd was? I hope the event will be successful and will be repeated in a year. I would definitely consider visiting. | ||
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Demurity
United States424 Posts
On November 02 2017 22:18 Liquid`Drone wrote: Cadenza has been fine, her understanding is significantly better than the average nonkorean caster, and it's been especially helpful for Sayle in the tvz games. She doesn't have that much experience as a caster and the dynamic between them isn't perfect yet, but I'm pleased. I like Cadenza in general, but when it comes to her casting, it's not good. If you really scrutinize it, she's not really adding anything to the cast. Sayle just has way more experience, more knowledge, and a louder voice for the actual play-by-play casting. I was asking myself this while watching: what is she contributing that is substantial? But, if she was literally the only other possible caster to accompany Sayle, well then, que sera sera. Side note: Not to make it a hot take, but has anyone else noticed how when casting (in general) is talked about, when there is a poor caster, a common upside to the argument is always that the caster is better geared to talk to low level players? Like why is this seen as a good thing lol | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2762 Posts
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Silentenigma
Turkey2037 Posts
On November 02 2017 22:29 Demurity wrote: I like Cadenza in general, but when it comes to her casting, it's not good. If you really scrutinize it, she's not really adding anything to the cast. Sayle just has way more experience, more knowledge, and a louder voice for the actual play-by-play casting. I was asking myself this while watching: what is she contributing that is substantial? But, if she was literally the only other possible caster to accompany Sayle, well then, que sera sera. Side note: Not to make it a hot take, but has anyone else noticed how when casting (in general) is talked about, when there is a poor caster, a common upside to the argument is always that the caster is better geared to talk to low level players? Like why is this seen as a good thing lol Her voice is just distracting.She doesnt really tell anything either so she is just white noise to me. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28910 Posts
On November 02 2017 22:29 Demurity wrote: I like Cadenza in general, but when it comes to her casting, it's not good. If you really scrutinize it, she's not really adding anything to the cast. Sayle just has way more experience, more knowledge, and a louder voice for the actual play-by-play casting. I was asking myself this while watching: what is she contributing that is substantial? But, if she was literally the only other possible caster to accompany Sayle, well then, que sera sera. Side note: Not to make it a hot take, but has anyone else noticed how when casting (in general) is talked about, when there is a poor caster, a common upside to the argument is always that the caster is better geared to talk to low level players? Like why is this seen as a good thing lol Good players are able to follow the action anyway and depend less on the cast. I actually agree that it's better to gear the cast towards low level players. But I don't follow that being less good at the game makes you better at explaining it to a low level player, it just makes you focus on the less significant aspects. :p | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2762 Posts
On November 02 2017 22:43 Navane wrote: Whats up with her voice? I guess it's the accent more than anything. After a couple of minutes I don't notice it as much anymore. | ||
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Burned Toast
Canada2040 Posts
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3851 Posts
'If there's a little bit smaller cup, that's mine' Pretty accurate description of what will happen | ||
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JoRoSaR
United Kingdom143 Posts
On November 02 2017 22:58 ShloobeR wrote: Haha 'If there's a little bit smaller cup, that's mine' Pretty accurate description of what will happen I'll make sure he gets hold of one if he doesn't win the finals  ![[image loading]](https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a0KMz5ZgbyU/U7ZRXaEKoFI/AAAAAAAALNE/LfLT6V6HPTI/s1024/Photo%25252020140704080121.jpg) | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12064 Posts
On November 02 2017 21:50 Good1 wrote: Who organized this tournament on whose money? Good that it is here but its soo strange and doesnt make sense. ESL organised it on ESL money. NotForU in the finals. I hope the guy has some all-in prepared for FBH... This is the worst idea ever. You will not beat someone who is good at the game with an all in. It'll never work if they're playing standard. | ||
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[AS]Rattus
432 Posts
almost like he lost part of his game sense and knowledge cadenza(zy)(zie)? actually knows what she's talking about and is kinda the only casting zerg i know thats nice for a change | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On November 02 2017 23:12 [AS]Rattus wrote: ya, sayle for some reason got worse with his cast over the last couple of weeks almost like he lost part of his game sense and knowledge cadenza(zy)(zie)? actually knows what she's talking about and is kinda the only casting zerg i know thats nice for a change I'll let Sayle correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe he's been sick... | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium7182 Posts
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On November 02 2017 23:12 Qikz wrote: ESL organised it on ESL money. This is the worst idea ever. You will not beat someone who is good at the game with an all in. It'll never work if they're playing standard. Actually, you will never beat someone who is far better at the game by playing entirely standard... He's right... I didn't see the games, but I heard Draco won with 2 all ins. Actually, all ins are typically done by the lesser skilled player. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium7182 Posts
On November 02 2017 23:17 Eywa- wrote: Actually, you will never beat someone who is far better at the game by playing entirely standard... He's right... I didn't see the games, but I heard Draco won with 2 all ins. Actually, all ins are typically done by the lesser skilled player. Tvz is a different matchup . | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
Yeah, that's why I said it would have been cool if Dewalt and Bonyth qualified, I think PvT has far better odds for successful all ins. | ||
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
On November 02 2017 22:29 Demurity wrote: I like Cadenza in general, but when it comes to her casting, it's not good. If you really scrutinize it, she's not really adding anything to the cast. Sayle just has way more experience, more knowledge, and a louder voice for the actual play-by-play casting. I was asking myself this while watching: what is she contributing that is substantial? But, if she was literally the only other possible caster to accompany Sayle, well then, que sera sera. Side note: Not to make it a hot take, but has anyone else noticed how when casting (in general) is talked about, when there is a poor caster, a common upside to the argument is always that the caster is better geared to talk to low level players? Like why is this seen as a good thing lol I disagree with Cadenza having less knowledge about the game. It is obvious that she is not as used to the casting role as Sayle is, but from the VODS I've caught up on so far (Morrow vs Koget and Cloud vs Koget) I think her assement of the situation in the game and her analysis is a lot more on point than Sayles at times. I don't mean to hate on Sayle, I think he does a fine job as a caster too. Also I find her voice extremly soothing to listen to while Sayle just has the scream and make loud noices approach. To each their own though. And to be fair, in my opinion the role of a more experienced caster is to adjust to the situation at hand. Sayle does not adjust his style to his co-caster, which is necessary in situations like this. A lot of the time in the vod vs Morrow and Koget he was just talking over Cadenza. | ||
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aiwekas
45 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12064 Posts
On November 02 2017 23:39 aiwekas wrote: i think its stupid call firebathero who already win this tourn before start.gl hf Going in with this attitude is why foreigners will never beat koreans. This is a LAN setting, no lag. If there's a perfect time for a foreigner to train and win it would be now. Also I hope people are not this negative about my casting with Sayle, it's not very nice to Cadenza who is a) sick and b) doing imo a damn good job from the vods I saw yesterday. | ||
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