• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:55
CET 00:55
KST 08:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational10SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)19Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea Which foreign pros are considered the best? BW General Discussion BW AKA finder tool
Tourneys
Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Navigating the Risks and Rew…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1281 users

[SSL Classic] S1 Day 5 - Page 3

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 11 2017 11:22 GMT
#41
that was clever zealot play, but efforts hold was sick.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 11 2017 11:24 GMT
#42
i don't think effort knew that rain had no detection there.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 11 2017 11:28 GMT
#43
well rain tried i guess
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
May 11 2017 11:28 GMT
#44
Rain had a lot of good tactical ideas but his execution failed him against Effort's Drone drills and simcities...
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 11:29:36
May 11 2017 11:29 GMT
#45
Very cute try, but effort is too strong!

A nice fun game to round off this group :D
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
May 11 2017 11:29 GMT
#46
On May 11 2017 20:14 Arvendilin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 20:11 kerpal wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:10 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really don't understand hero here, all he had to do was to make sure soulkey cannot expand again, he really only needs mutalisks for that. Why build that many zerglings? I guess i am missing something


I don't understand it either, with the gas lead he should've been able to just out muta Soulkey and win

I think soulkey was more efficient getting scourge hits against mutas? I'm not 100% sure.


He was 100%, thats how he managed to reset the count, but I mean after that, when it was 2 vs 1 base, Effort should've still been able to produce more mutas, to come back faster than Soulkey who only had 1 gas to rebound, but I'm probably missing something


You mean herO, not effort
EntusGalleries.com - CJ Uniform Sale
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 11 2017 11:30 GMT
#47
On May 11 2017 20:29 razorsuKe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 20:14 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:11 kerpal wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:10 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really don't understand hero here, all he had to do was to make sure soulkey cannot expand again, he really only needs mutalisks for that. Why build that many zerglings? I guess i am missing something


I don't understand it either, with the gas lead he should've been able to just out muta Soulkey and win

I think soulkey was more efficient getting scourge hits against mutas? I'm not 100% sure.


He was 100%, thats how he managed to reset the count, but I mean after that, when it was 2 vs 1 base, Effort should've still been able to produce more mutas, to come back faster than Soulkey who only had 1 gas to rebound, but I'm probably missing something


You mean herO, not effort

Oh yea, ofcourse, I was already worrying about the next match while writing this ;;
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 11 2017 11:32 GMT
#48
It's exactly the kind of game which makes me don't want to see any information.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
May 11 2017 11:34 GMT
#49
Rain trying to be too cute, EffOrt holds it off beautifully.
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6803 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 11:37:11
May 11 2017 11:36 GMT
#50
effort destroyed flash 4-2 yesterday,so unfortunate he failed that zvz vs soulkey and loss to bisu :/
anyway GG,best zerg in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
May 11 2017 11:40 GMT
#51
On May 11 2017 20:32 nojok wrote:
It's exactly the kind of game which makes me don't want to see any information.

I agree. It makes us think for ourselves and that is part of the fun making predictions on the back of that.

And some feedback to Rapid; one cannot tell from the evo chamber graphic that it is upgrading and also mutalisk upgrades are researched in the spire, not the evo chamber.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
May 11 2017 13:17 GMT
#52
VODs available in the Small VOD Thread 2.0 ...
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 19:33:53
May 11 2017 19:31 GMT
#53
On May 11 2017 20:10 Arvendilin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 20:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really don't understand hero here, all he had to do was to make sure soulkey cannot expand again, he really only needs mutalisks for that. Why build that many zerglings? I guess i am missing something


I don't understand it either, with the gas lead he should've been able to just out muta Soulkey and win


This is what I believe happened...

In hero's mind the only chance that he would lose would be to a ling run by killing all his drones while his small amount of mutas wouldn't be able to deal as much damage as quickly in return, so he invested allot of larva into zergling's to protect his drones. Hero probably thought this was the correct decision as Soulkey makes a 'desperate' attempt to run by into the main to snipe drones with his remaining ling force, meanwhile Soulkey is already switching back into mutas and using all his larva for it.

After 'sucessfully' defending the ling counter attack, Hero makes a few drones at his natural and starts to go back into muta production with the rest of his larva but at this point soulkey has a critical mass of mutalisks that can end the game in that precise moment.

Keep in mind Hero was ahead almost that entire game, and he was just trying to ensure that nothing would challenge that, Soulkey just played a beautiful tactical game to overcome his weaker position, getting more drone kills and sniping allot of mutalisks with scourge.
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 19:36:51
May 11 2017 19:35 GMT
#54

Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
ldv
Profile Blog Joined April 2017
United States103 Posts
May 12 2017 16:45 GMT
#55
The english commentators have got to go. They are worse than listening to Rebecca Black on repeat while watching the vods without sound. God they are worthless as commentators.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
May 12 2017 19:20 GMT
#56
On May 13 2017 01:45 ldv wrote:
The english commentators have got to go. They are worse than listening to Rebecca Black on repeat while watching the vods without sound. God they are worthless as commentators.


First, saying to someone that he's « worthless » isn't a nice thing to say on a forum like TL. There's people behind these commentators and i'm sure you would appreciate a more constructive critics if you were in their position.

Second, You're free to watch the korean version if you want. It's not like you have no choice.

Third, You're not paying anything for that. Just relax and enjoy the game on mute if it fits your needs.
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11h 5m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft339
CosmosSc2 100
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 618
Shuttle 126
Dota 2
Pyrionflax210
canceldota47
BeoMulf2
Counter-Strike
FalleN 3672
Foxcn187
minikerr17
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox967
PPMD25
Mew2King23
Other Games
tarik_tv6825
summit1g5878
FrodaN1627
shahzam545
Liquid`Hasu196
ViBE69
Liquid`Ken5
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick39
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 94
• davetesta64
• musti20045 44
• RyuSc2 41
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Laughngamez YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21828
League of Legends
• Doublelift4141
Other Games
• imaqtpie2706
• Shiphtur259
• WagamamaTV212
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
11h 5m
Clem vs ShoWTimE
Zoun vs Bunny
Big Brain Bouts
17h 5m
Percival vs Gerald
Serral vs MaxPax
RongYI Cup
1d 11h
SHIN vs Creator
Classic vs Percival
OSC
1d 13h
BSL 21
1d 15h
RongYI Cup
2 days
Maru vs Cyan
Solar vs Krystianer
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-20
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
Tektek Cup #1
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.