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kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 11 2017 11:22 GMT
#41
that was clever zealot play, but efforts hold was sick.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 11 2017 11:24 GMT
#42
i don't think effort knew that rain had no detection there.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 11 2017 11:28 GMT
#43
well rain tried i guess
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
May 11 2017 11:28 GMT
#44
Rain had a lot of good tactical ideas but his execution failed him against Effort's Drone drills and simcities...
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 11:29:36
May 11 2017 11:29 GMT
#45
Very cute try, but effort is too strong!

A nice fun game to round off this group :D
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
May 11 2017 11:29 GMT
#46
On May 11 2017 20:14 Arvendilin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 20:11 kerpal wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:10 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really don't understand hero here, all he had to do was to make sure soulkey cannot expand again, he really only needs mutalisks for that. Why build that many zerglings? I guess i am missing something


I don't understand it either, with the gas lead he should've been able to just out muta Soulkey and win

I think soulkey was more efficient getting scourge hits against mutas? I'm not 100% sure.


He was 100%, thats how he managed to reset the count, but I mean after that, when it was 2 vs 1 base, Effort should've still been able to produce more mutas, to come back faster than Soulkey who only had 1 gas to rebound, but I'm probably missing something


You mean herO, not effort
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Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 11 2017 11:30 GMT
#47
On May 11 2017 20:29 razorsuKe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 20:14 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:11 kerpal wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:10 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really don't understand hero here, all he had to do was to make sure soulkey cannot expand again, he really only needs mutalisks for that. Why build that many zerglings? I guess i am missing something


I don't understand it either, with the gas lead he should've been able to just out muta Soulkey and win

I think soulkey was more efficient getting scourge hits against mutas? I'm not 100% sure.


He was 100%, thats how he managed to reset the count, but I mean after that, when it was 2 vs 1 base, Effort should've still been able to produce more mutas, to come back faster than Soulkey who only had 1 gas to rebound, but I'm probably missing something


You mean herO, not effort

Oh yea, ofcourse, I was already worrying about the next match while writing this ;;
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 11 2017 11:32 GMT
#48
It's exactly the kind of game which makes me don't want to see any information.
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Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
May 11 2017 11:34 GMT
#49
Rain trying to be too cute, EffOrt holds it off beautifully.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6740 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 11:37:11
May 11 2017 11:36 GMT
#50
effort destroyed flash 4-2 yesterday,so unfortunate he failed that zvz vs soulkey and loss to bisu :/
anyway GG,best zerg in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
May 11 2017 11:40 GMT
#51
On May 11 2017 20:32 nojok wrote:
It's exactly the kind of game which makes me don't want to see any information.

I agree. It makes us think for ourselves and that is part of the fun making predictions on the back of that.

And some feedback to Rapid; one cannot tell from the evo chamber graphic that it is upgrading and also mutalisk upgrades are researched in the spire, not the evo chamber.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
May 11 2017 13:17 GMT
#52
VODs available in the Small VOD Thread 2.0 ...
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Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 19:33:53
May 11 2017 19:31 GMT
#53
On May 11 2017 20:10 Arvendilin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 20:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really don't understand hero here, all he had to do was to make sure soulkey cannot expand again, he really only needs mutalisks for that. Why build that many zerglings? I guess i am missing something


I don't understand it either, with the gas lead he should've been able to just out muta Soulkey and win


This is what I believe happened...

In hero's mind the only chance that he would lose would be to a ling run by killing all his drones while his small amount of mutas wouldn't be able to deal as much damage as quickly in return, so he invested allot of larva into zergling's to protect his drones. Hero probably thought this was the correct decision as Soulkey makes a 'desperate' attempt to run by into the main to snipe drones with his remaining ling force, meanwhile Soulkey is already switching back into mutas and using all his larva for it.

After 'sucessfully' defending the ling counter attack, Hero makes a few drones at his natural and starts to go back into muta production with the rest of his larva but at this point soulkey has a critical mass of mutalisks that can end the game in that precise moment.

Keep in mind Hero was ahead almost that entire game, and he was just trying to ensure that nothing would challenge that, Soulkey just played a beautiful tactical game to overcome his weaker position, getting more drone kills and sniping allot of mutalisks with scourge.
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Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 19:36:51
May 11 2017 19:35 GMT
#54

Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
ldv
Profile Blog Joined April 2017
United States103 Posts
May 12 2017 16:45 GMT
#55
The english commentators have got to go. They are worse than listening to Rebecca Black on repeat while watching the vods without sound. God they are worthless as commentators.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
May 12 2017 19:20 GMT
#56
On May 13 2017 01:45 ldv wrote:
The english commentators have got to go. They are worse than listening to Rebecca Black on repeat while watching the vods without sound. God they are worthless as commentators.


First, saying to someone that he's « worthless » isn't a nice thing to say on a forum like TL. There's people behind these commentators and i'm sure you would appreciate a more constructive critics if you were in their position.

Second, You're free to watch the korean version if you want. It's not like you have no choice.

Third, You're not paying anything for that. Just relax and enjoy the game on mute if it fits your needs.
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