• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:05
CET 02:05
KST 10:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)15Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1828
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list? Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns
Tourneys
SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced WardiTV Winter Cup
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1757 users

[ASL2] Finals: Sea vs FlaSh - Page 15

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 52 Next
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
January 22 2017 09:02 GMT
#281
On January 22 2017 17:58 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2017 17:47 c3rberUs wrote:
On January 22 2017 17:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
still dont know much about BW but this is pretty entertaining

TvT is the hardest matchup to analyse so don't sweat it.

Flash vs T is usually easier to analyse though: both players make moves around the map until Flash finds an opening and wins.

Only exception being Fantasy though.
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
January 22 2017 09:02 GMT
#282
I cant believe this
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
January 22 2017 09:02 GMT
#283
Someone translate the Light interview!
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-22 09:03:07
January 22 2017 09:02 GMT
#284
nvm
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
January 22 2017 09:03 GMT
#285
BeSt is Flash's BeSt friend <3
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
January 22 2017 09:03 GMT
#286
On January 22 2017 18:00 allmylifethereyougo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2017 17:57 HolydaKing wrote:
On January 22 2017 17:57 Lachrymose wrote:
Sea was too passive, but it isn't easy. Attacking Flash is hard.

Well, considering he was playing a passive playstyle he probably should have tried to expand as fast as Flash, or am I wrong?



Wouldn't the initial wraiths have been able to just end the game had sea gone for a greedier build?

this isn't about the early game; TvT moves into a different phase around the time players start to take their thirds

also you can't actually lose a game to one star wraiths, you can lose workers and maybe a tank or two and that's bad, but it's not game ending.
Liquipedia
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
January 22 2017 09:03 GMT
#287
that's why BeSt is the best
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
January 22 2017 09:03 GMT
#288
BeSt is hurt because Sea crushed him
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
January 22 2017 09:03 GMT
#289
This is pretty much the most adorable interview.
Guilty
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada812 Posts
January 22 2017 09:04 GMT
#290
Best promoting Flash lol
Sorry Sea!
"How hard could it be?" -J. Clarkson
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 22 2017 09:04 GMT
#291
On January 22 2017 18:02 gngfn wrote:
Someone translate the Light interview!

cheering for Sea, shouldn't affect mindset.

BeSt saying he's his best friend, flash fan, will win 3-0. If flash wins, he'll join his stream and buy hamburgers for his viewers?
from tastosis stream*
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
shall_burn
Profile Joined January 2016
252 Posts
January 22 2017 09:04 GMT
#292
oh boy, BeSt is freaking HUGE
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
January 22 2017 09:04 GMT
#293
That artosis comment actually made me lol.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
January 22 2017 09:05 GMT
#294
On January 22 2017 18:04 shall_burn wrote:
oh boy, BeSt is freaking HUGE

[image loading]
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
January 22 2017 09:05 GMT
#295
I think sea overrelied on turrets to control the flow of the game. contains get weaker as unit counts grow.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
allmylifethereyougo
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom24 Posts
January 22 2017 09:05 GMT
#296
On January 22 2017 18:02 gngfn wrote:
Someone translate the Light interview!



He said roughly:

"I cam here to support my former teammate Sea. This is his first time at a finals and possibly his last so... Sea fighting!"
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
January 22 2017 09:05 GMT
#297
Basically Flash lets Sea take the middle and makes that advantage irrelevant by having a dropship fleet. Surprised Sea didn't understand the counter to that, which is to go mass wraiths
Что?
shall_burn
Profile Joined January 2016
252 Posts
January 22 2017 09:06 GMT
#298
On January 22 2017 18:05 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2017 18:04 shall_burn wrote:
oh boy, BeSt is freaking HUGE

[image loading]

Is this from Nada's body thread? I've seen this, but still impressive
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
January 22 2017 09:06 GMT
#299
Tasteless looks like a cute burger
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-22 09:09:54
January 22 2017 09:06 GMT
#300
On January 22 2017 17:57 Lachrymose wrote:
Sea was too passive, but it isn't easy. Attacking Flash is hard.

I think that TvsT like to chess board, you control many part of map you will have chance to win and game 1: Sea who control map better than Flash, but Flash's drop last changed direction of the game 1. If Sea didn't response the way push immediately then Flash's drop at 9h point, he was able to still defended his game.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 52 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 56m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 133
CosmosSc2 48
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 669
Shuttle 534
Leta 146
910 32
NaDa 17
Dota 2
syndereN359
capcasts95
League of Legends
C9.Mang0370
Counter-Strike
summit1g5610
Foxcn371
taco 116
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox249
Mew2King117
AZ_Axe75
Other Games
tarik_tv6505
Liquid`RaSZi2171
FrodaN1185
shahzam590
B2W.Neo205
Fnx 137
ViBE117
Maynarde98
KnowMe71
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick3245
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 79
• davetesta45
• Mapu2
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki42
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift5454
• Scarra1612
Other Games
• imaqtpie2066
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
8h 56m
OSC
10h 56m
Jumy vs sebesdes
Nicoract vs GgMaChine
ReBellioN vs MaNa
Lemon vs TriGGeR
Gerald vs Cure
Creator vs SHIN
OSC
1d 10h
All Star Teams
2 days
INnoVation vs soO
Serral vs herO
Cure vs Solar
sOs vs Scarlett
Classic vs Clem
Reynor vs Maru
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
All Star Teams
3 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-14
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.