• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:51
CEST 16:51
KST 23:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up2PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition245.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)108$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 151Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada11
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version) WoL: how does "advanced construction" work? Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition ZvT - Army Composition - Slow Lings + Fast Banes
Tourneys
RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Tenacious Turtle Tussle Stellar Fest $2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Proposed Glossary of Strategic Uncertainty Current Meta TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art 9 hatch vs 10 hatch vs 12 hatch
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
[AI] From Comfort Women to …
Peanutsc
Mental Health In Esports: Wo…
TrAiDoS
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1546 users

[ASL2] Semifinals: Flash vs Jaedong - Page 38

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 84 Next
nurle
Profile Joined August 2009
Norway308 Posts
January 17 2017 11:30 GMT
#741
Wtf is going on. SHEEPMANIA
Jaedong fucking beast
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 17 2017 11:30 GMT
#742
Team Tastetosis is blasting off again!
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
January 17 2017 11:30 GMT
#743
On January 17 2017 20:29 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:29 gngfn wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:26 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:24 Lachrymose wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:21 Tiaraju9 wrote:
I miss production tab.

No production, no food counts, no resource counts, it's so much better like this. It's so much more tense trying to figure out who is winning.

Information comes at the expense of drama.

I don't agree with this, it's so much harder to appreciate how good the players are macroing without tabs, also calling who is ahead becomes way harder.

Who cares? Why is it necessary to be able to state who is ahead?

It is true that the observer plays a much more important role when you don't have all this automatic information all over the screen. I think the ASL observer has been mediocre so far at showing important things besides "here is where some units are."

Yeah, production tab would help

The production tab makes the broadcast like a chess game with a computer assessment every move.

It removes a lot of the thinking.
The Bomber boy
MperorM1
Profile Joined September 2015
90 Posts
January 17 2017 11:30 GMT
#744
I really like the new teamliquid background
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
January 17 2017 11:30 GMT
#745
omg the bg...
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-17 11:31:14
January 17 2017 11:30 GMT
#746
LOL the carving a nerds heart out part, wasn't that from Draco vs Midas WCG? Either that or Mondragon something....
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 17 2017 11:30 GMT
#747
LOL a nerd's a heart on top of Ziggurat
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
January 17 2017 11:31 GMT
#748
On January 17 2017 20:29 Grettin wrote:
NOW THIS IS THE PAGE I DIG KRISTOFFER

I'll allow it, considering JD's about to get knocked out.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
January 17 2017 11:31 GMT
#749
On January 17 2017 20:27 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:26 juvenal wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
brood war is sick you guys were right

make no mistake, these games are nothing like the classic Flash - Jaedong matches, Jaedong is visibly rusty and unsure of his own mechanics. Huge shame this series had to take place so early after Jaedong returned, would've been 10x better in half a year.

Flash doesn't look great either. I think this is demonstrating that Proleague had a huge effect on players' ability to perform well on stage. The butterflies seem like a huge issue now that every appearance in front of a crowd is a do or die tournament match.


They probably don't do 12 hours of focused practice 6 days a week, like they used to.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Levque
Profile Joined October 2016
88 Posts
January 17 2017 11:31 GMT
#750
ASL never plays Zerg music =(
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 17 2017 11:31 GMT
#751
Afreeca stream still freezing ;;
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
shall_burn
Profile Joined January 2016
252 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-17 11:31:57
January 17 2017 11:31 GMT
#752
I hope JD wins... I'll get to know in about an hour or so.. GL JD
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 17 2017 11:31 GMT
#753
14 cc from Flash.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
kiero
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada136 Posts
January 17 2017 11:31 GMT
#754
On January 17 2017 20:28 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:26 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:24 Lachrymose wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:21 Tiaraju9 wrote:
I miss production tab.

No production, no food counts, no resource counts, it's so much better like this. It's so much more tense trying to figure out who is winning.

Information comes at the expense of drama.

I don't agree with this, it's so much harder to appreciate how good the players are macroing without tabs, also calling who is ahead becomes way harder.


It's harder at first, but neither are that hard once you watch enough games. Any experienced watcher would have had a sense of who was ahead that entire game, and whether both players' macro was on point. It was definitely NOT a given, even for a progamer, that Terran would have had the # of units Flash did that game.


Numbers can change drastically in in either direction as well. I think experienced watcher can appreciate how close in either direction every game has been going.
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3453 Posts
January 17 2017 11:32 GMT
#755
bg is hypnotic af! :O
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28490 Posts
January 17 2017 11:32 GMT
#756
counting these sheep doesn't make me sleepy somehow
I Protoss winner, could it be?
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
January 17 2017 11:32 GMT
#757
On January 17 2017 20:31 hypercube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:27 gngfn wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:26 juvenal wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
brood war is sick you guys were right

make no mistake, these games are nothing like the classic Flash - Jaedong matches, Jaedong is visibly rusty and unsure of his own mechanics. Huge shame this series had to take place so early after Jaedong returned, would've been 10x better in half a year.

Flash doesn't look great either. I think this is demonstrating that Proleague had a huge effect on players' ability to perform well on stage. The butterflies seem like a huge issue now that every appearance in front of a crowd is a do or die tournament match.


They probably don't do 12 hours of focused practice 6 days a week, like they used to.

Flash was never a mass gamer even at the KT house. Jaedong is probably playing as many games as he ever did, maybe even more, since he said his hands were starting to hurt from practicing too much. Also, both players look much better when streaming than they have in these games. I think it's nerves, not skill.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-17 11:32:46
January 17 2017 11:32 GMT
#758
On January 17 2017 20:26 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:24 Lachrymose wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:21 Tiaraju9 wrote:
I miss production tab.

No production, no food counts, no resource counts, it's so much better like this. It's so much more tense trying to figure out who is winning.

Information comes at the expense of drama.

I don't agree with this, it's so much harder to appreciate how good the players are macroing without tabs, also calling who is ahead becomes way harder.


That is like watching a scary movie with a tab that shows when all the scary moments are. Makes no fucking sense.
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 17 2017 11:32 GMT
#759
Flash wins build order fight.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
January 17 2017 11:32 GMT
#760
On January 17 2017 20:32 Penev wrote:
counting these sheep doesn't make me sleepy somehow


I hope someone doesn't suffer from epilepsy
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 84 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Map Test Tournament
11:00
TLMC #15: Group A
WardiTV1057
ComeBackTV 626
IndyStarCraft 241
Rex140
3DClanTV 80
EnkiAlexander 44
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 241
LamboSC2 156
Rex 140
ProTech78
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 32080
Bisu 7294
Shuttle 4100
Sea 1973
Mini 1318
Larva 1245
Light 871
Soma 751
GuemChi 738
hero 693
[ Show more ]
Snow 617
firebathero 548
Soulkey 538
Rush 281
Zeus 243
sorry 147
Mind 85
Sea.KH 75
Backho 74
ToSsGirL 57
Aegong 50
sas.Sziky 41
ivOry 37
JulyZerg 21
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
NaDa 12
scan(afreeca) 11
Terrorterran 9
Hm[arnc] 7
Dota 2
Gorgc5849
qojqva3143
Cr1tdota1229
Dendi965
BananaSlamJamma171
PGG 117
syndereN99
Counter-Strike
fl0m1994
olofmeister502
Other Games
singsing3104
hiko940
B2W.Neo864
crisheroes511
DeMusliM399
Pyrionflax296
Lowko244
Hui .201
Sick167
oskar95
Mew2King59
Trikslyr3
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV57
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 10
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki15
• FirePhoenix2
• HerbMon 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV474
League of Legends
• Nemesis4356
• Jankos1735
• TFBlade566
Other Games
• Shiphtur148
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
9h 9m
Map Test Tournament
20h 9m
OSC
1d 1h
MaNa vs Harstem
ByuN vs TBD
HiGhDrA vs NightPhoenix
Iba vs Ziomek
TriGGeR vs MindelVK
Lemon vs TBD
YoungYakov vs PAPI
ArT vs sebesdes
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 8h
The PondCast
1d 19h
Map Test Tournament
1d 20h
OSC
2 days
Map Test Tournament
2 days
OSC
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Map Test Tournament
3 days
OSC
4 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
4 days
Safe House 2
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Map Test Tournament
4 days
OSC
4 days
IPSL
5 days
dxtr13 vs Napoleon
Doodle vs OldBoy
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Team Wars
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Acropolis #4 - TS2
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
WardiTV TLMC #15
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.