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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
January 15 2017 12:10 GMT
#401
srsly, not even taking into account who you are rooting for, that game 5 was uninspiring and boring. Well executed by Sea, but from a spectators PoV... meh.
Broodwar for life!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 15 2017 12:10 GMT
#402
Sea already planned to use BBS if it went to game 5.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 15 2017 12:11 GMT
#403
On January 15 2017 21:09 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2017 21:08 letian wrote:
well fuck, cheeser


You mean like BeSt tried in game1? Don't be so salty lol.

I don't think proxy 1 gate is a cheese
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
January 15 2017 12:11 GMT
#404
Nice series for Sea, lol @ ppl being salty for bbs.
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
January 15 2017 12:11 GMT
#405
Well I wanted to see Best in the finals honestly but that was a fun set regardless.

Best won his games where he went with arbiter play, but then again he was already ahead heading into the late game thanks to the openings. But still I feel like he will regret his play in games 1 and 4 for sure.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8675 Posts
January 15 2017 12:11 GMT
#406
On January 15 2017 21:08 Foxxan wrote:
bloody best, seriously wtf do he go this super risky shit build for, without scouting even holy fuck
Now we might get a shit tvt instead..................................................................
No wonder he never got #1 protoss with this shit mentally head


It's really not a super risky build? At least not compared to his general game plan in this series. I mean, he went for 14 nex unscouted in one game. But nobody complained then because Sea didn't cheese that game...
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
January 15 2017 12:12 GMT
#407
On January 15 2017 21:09 Sunyveil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2017 21:08 GTR wrote:
On January 15 2017 21:07 Sunyveil wrote:
I mean I don't know the timing of when dragoons are supposed to pop but it felt like Best didn't start production until he saw the marines


you dont have enough money because you're trying to get the 2nd gate + range before pumping goons.

I see, that explains it then

No... lol
He skipped building dragoons..... because he is a super greedy fucker that will never win anything with that kind of crap mentality.

Didnt you see zealot popping out as first unit? WTF is that, obviously he skipped building dragoons... LOL
fucjking idiot protoss
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 15 2017 12:12 GMT
#408
People need to give credit where its due imo. Sea played an extremely risky strat. It happened to work against best.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13426 Posts
January 15 2017 12:12 GMT
#409
Best vs Flash would've been pretty cool too :/
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 12:16:12
January 15 2017 12:12 GMT
#410
LOL Sea is talking like as if he's already playing Flash in the finals =)
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 12:14:53
January 15 2017 12:12 GMT
#411
On January 15 2017 21:11 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2017 21:08 Foxxan wrote:
bloody best, seriously wtf do he go this super risky shit build for, without scouting even holy fuck
Now we might get a shit tvt instead..................................................................
No wonder he never got #1 protoss with this shit mentally head


It's really not a super risky build? At least not compared to his general game plan in this series. I mean, he went for 14 nex unscouted in one game. But nobody complained then because Sea didn't cheese that game...

he delayed his dragoon production while not even doing probe scout.
And i think he wanted to proxy something even. I think he wanted to mindgame with the range upgrade+2gate thinking its dragoon rush while maybe evne doing a proxy dt.

And it was 2-1 while doing hidden expo.. Its a risky move which i wouldnt approve of if it were 2-2 but since he was in lead it was OKAYISH to do it.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
January 15 2017 12:12 GMT
#412
Weaker player won.. now we have to watch a TvT finals, puke.
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
January 15 2017 12:13 GMT
#413
Get 2nd gate before 1st Zealot or Dragoon, proceed to get rekt.
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
January 15 2017 12:13 GMT
#414
Best got a better standard PvT, yet he decides to go for a risky build in the last and deciding game. Why Best?
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
January 15 2017 12:13 GMT
#415
On January 15 2017 21:12 TT1 wrote:
Weaker player won.. now we have to watch a TvT finals, puke.


you don't give a lot of credit to the tyrant?
Broodwar for life!
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
January 15 2017 12:13 GMT
#416
On January 15 2017 21:10 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2017 21:08 GTR wrote:
On January 15 2017 21:07 Sunyveil wrote:
I mean I don't know the timing of when dragoons are supposed to pop but it felt like Best didn't start production until he saw the marines


you dont have enough money because you're trying to get the 2nd gate + range before pumping goons.


Also I think Best hid delayed the first round of goons to get a tech building at his hidden pylon?

I don't know how effecient this build is, but there is a build I used to do,where you make 2 gates, range, expand, then pump both gates after, both goons pop at the same time, just in time to defend a few timings, but I think going 1 gate, getting a goon, expanding, and just getting another goon while the gateway is building, is overall more efficient, soo I really dunno what he was going to do with that.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 15 2017 12:13 GMT
#417
On January 15 2017 21:12 RowdierBob wrote:
Best vs Flash would've been pretty cool too :/

Gotta admit that if Flash wins, which he should, Best would've been a cool for the grand finals.
Levque
Profile Joined October 2016
88 Posts
January 15 2017 12:14 GMT
#418
Boooooooooooo!
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 15 2017 12:14 GMT
#419
Thank you for giving Flash an easy finals.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2345 Posts
January 15 2017 12:14 GMT
#420
On January 15 2017 21:13 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2017 21:12 TT1 wrote:
Weaker player won.. now we have to watch a TvT finals, puke.


you don't give a lot of credit to the tyrant?


He didnt learn from OSL FvF semifinal overconfidence.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
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