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[ASL2] Ro8 Stork vs Jaedong - Page 10

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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 10 2017 10:33 GMT
#181
let's go Jaedong! :D
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
January 10 2017 10:33 GMT
#182
holy fuck the crowd is amazing
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
January 10 2017 10:33 GMT
#183
On January 10 2017 19:32 BigFan wrote:
Poll: Recommend game 1?

no (21)
 
53%

If you have time (13)
 
33%

yes (6)
 
15%

40 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 1?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no
(Vote): If you have time




Gotta go with no, it could be an interesting game in hindsight if Stork reverse sweeps, but if he loses, a bad game is a bad game
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8698 Posts
January 10 2017 10:33 GMT
#184
On January 10 2017 19:28 HolydaKing wrote:
What are the odds of the exact same thing happening in the next 2 games? :p


Not very high. It's a valid decision to try and cheese in the first game. Stork has done that in the past.

On January 10 2017 19:29 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 19:27 FlaShFTW wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:26 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Keep in mind jaedong was at like 6 drones. It was a much closer game than you might think looking at it.

he had 4 in his main and like 3-4 in his natural. you only need like 7 drones to constantly pump lings from 2 hatch. jd was fine that game especially since stork attacked into a sunken. speed was also gonna come up soon which means jaedong can start rallying lings to stork's base and maneuver fine against probes and cripple stork's economy.

True, pool before hatch is definitely a great position to be in vs proxy 2 gate. But one mistake in control early and you're completely fucked. But this is jaedong, he handled business.


Overpool is the best opening against protoss anyways.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51129 Posts
January 10 2017 10:33 GMT
#185
stork horn leg horn
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 10 2017 10:34 GMT
#186
On January 10 2017 19:32 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 19:31 Vuk_91 wrote:
Pool before hatch is NOT an automatic win vs proxy gates... First of all, Stork needed that probe really badly, and second, JD still needed a perfect control, which he obviously had.

in a 3 players map 9 pool is auto win vs 2 gates proxy.

Plus if you watch a lot of streams these days Zerg rarely lose to proxy 2 gates even when they go 2 hatch. Proxy 2 gate has low win rate even against 12 hatch these days.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
January 10 2017 10:34 GMT
#187
so glad to see ASL really getting this viewership
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
January 10 2017 10:35 GMT
#188
glad to hear ASL is getting crowdfunding too.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51129 Posts
January 10 2017 10:35 GMT
#189
On January 10 2017 19:34 atrox_ wrote:
so glad to see ASL really getting this viewership


and they are crowdfunding the prizepool and finals venue now.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7012 Posts
January 10 2017 10:35 GMT
#190
did artosis just said stork was going for a canon rush ? :D
BornToPun
Profile Joined October 2012
United States38 Posts
January 10 2017 10:36 GMT
#191
haha yeah I came here to see if anyone else noticed that .
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 10 2017 10:36 GMT
#192
On January 10 2017 19:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 19:34 atrox_ wrote:
so glad to see ASL really getting this viewership


and they are crowdfunding the prizepool and finals venue now.

that's so cool. i feel like they could fill a stadium for a finals if they got the funding for it
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8698 Posts
January 10 2017 10:36 GMT
#193
That felt so 2008... Jaedong is a bit behind right now.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7012 Posts
January 10 2017 10:37 GMT
#194
On January 10 2017 19:34 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 19:32 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:31 Vuk_91 wrote:
Pool before hatch is NOT an automatic win vs proxy gates... First of all, Stork needed that probe really badly, and second, JD still needed a perfect control, which he obviously had.

in a 3 players map 9 pool is auto win vs 2 gates proxy.

Plus if you watch a lot of streams these days Zerg rarely lose to proxy 2 gates even when they go 2 hatch. Proxy 2 gate has low win rate even against 12 hatch these days.

maybe you dont know but im C rank fish :D
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 10 2017 10:37 GMT
#195
Hydra all in incoming
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51129 Posts
January 10 2017 10:37 GMT
#196
oh god no, not hydras.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
January 10 2017 10:37 GMT
#197
On January 10 2017 19:32 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 19:31 Vuk_91 wrote:
Pool before hatch is NOT an automatic win vs proxy gates... First of all, Stork needed that probe really badly, and second, JD still needed a perfect control, which he obviously had.

in a 3 players map 9 pool is auto win vs 2 gates proxy.

But Damian is a 4 player map right?
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
January 10 2017 10:37 GMT
#198
On January 10 2017 19:37 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 19:34 classicyellow83 wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:32 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:31 Vuk_91 wrote:
Pool before hatch is NOT an automatic win vs proxy gates... First of all, Stork needed that probe really badly, and second, JD still needed a perfect control, which he obviously had.

in a 3 players map 9 pool is auto win vs 2 gates proxy.

Plus if you watch a lot of streams these days Zerg rarely lose to proxy 2 gates even when they go 2 hatch. Proxy 2 gate has low win rate even against 12 hatch these days.

maybe you dont know but im C rank fish :D


#humblebrag
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 10 2017 10:38 GMT
#199
On January 10 2017 19:37 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 19:34 classicyellow83 wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:32 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:31 Vuk_91 wrote:
Pool before hatch is NOT an automatic win vs proxy gates... First of all, Stork needed that probe really badly, and second, JD still needed a perfect control, which he obviously had.

in a 3 players map 9 pool is auto win vs 2 gates proxy.

Plus if you watch a lot of streams these days Zerg rarely lose to proxy 2 gates even when they go 2 hatch. Proxy 2 gate has low win rate even against 12 hatch these days.

maybe you dont know but im C rank fish :D

I was agreeing with you. O,O
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
January 10 2017 10:38 GMT
#200
On January 10 2017 19:33 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 19:28 HolydaKing wrote:
What are the odds of the exact same thing happening in the next 2 games? :p


Not very high. It's a valid decision to try and cheese in the first game. Stork has done that in the past.

Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 19:29 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:27 FlaShFTW wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:26 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Keep in mind jaedong was at like 6 drones. It was a much closer game than you might think looking at it.

he had 4 in his main and like 3-4 in his natural. you only need like 7 drones to constantly pump lings from 2 hatch. jd was fine that game especially since stork attacked into a sunken. speed was also gonna come up soon which means jaedong can start rallying lings to stork's base and maneuver fine against probes and cripple stork's economy.

True, pool before hatch is definitely a great position to be in vs proxy 2 gate. But one mistake in control early and you're completely fucked. But this is jaedong, he handled business.


Overpool is the best opening against protoss anyways.

Its great for making the protoss go forge cannon before nexus, but on some maps he can still nexus before making his first cannon. Also imo its not good against a 9 gate forge nexus controlled by someone like bisu. You're oversimplifying the match up.
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