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BLinD-RawR
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Afreeca Starleague [ASL]Final Preview- Sharp Knife, Fast ShuttleAfreeca TV (Amazingxkcd and Bisudagger) twitch TV (Tasteless and Artosis) ASL Youtube Channel with both English and Korean Stream | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Poll: Heart? Shuttle (19) Sharp (12) 31 total votes Your vote: Heart? If anyone was going to do a viewing party, why not do it on discord? https://discord.gg/8CgsX Follow the instructions too. | ||
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GOGOGO SHUTTLE LEGEND OF THE FALL | ||
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Vivi57
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Legend of the fall. | ||
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c3rberUs
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Unfortunately, I have business to take care of today so you I'll just wish you guys good games and loads of fun SH~~ HWAITING!!! | ||
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On September 10 2016 12:15 c3rberUs wrote: Just you Is it me or does Sharp look like Stork in the banner?  Both have been offline for most of the past week, must be practicing hard | ||
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On September 10 2016 12:46 amazingxkcd wrote: last cast for me lads, then I'm done with all of this esports chutzpah. Let's make this a good one we'll see about it | ||
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Wrath
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On September 10 2016 12:46 amazingxkcd wrote: last cast for me lads, then I'm done with all of this esports chutzpah. Let's make this a good one Whats going on? You leaving everything behind? | ||
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amazingxkcd
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On September 10 2016 13:01 Wrath wrote: Whats going on? You leaving everything behind? future is uncertain for me. | ||
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KtheZ
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pumped for this! | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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you're certainly getting punched by me if you don't knock it off. | ||
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amazingxkcd
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On September 10 2016 13:28 BLinD-RawR wrote: you're certainly getting punched by me if you don't knock it off. hehe | ||
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On September 10 2016 13:42 amazingxkcd wrote: this music on the korean feed is amazing. Classic 50s era ballads with the graceful somber piano supporting her vocals Link? I must be missing it from OP also HYPE | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On September 10 2016 14:06 Little-Chimp wrote: Link? I must be missing it from OP also HYPE its in the OP, I linked to their stream. | ||
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tanngard
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On September 10 2016 14:11 BisuDagger wrote: Camera Man getting the camera ready. It scared us. He looks like an assasin... | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On September 10 2016 14:23 Die4Ever wrote: Alright, who should I cheer for? prefer easy or fun? | ||
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N.geNuity
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we'll never see him do craziness like dweb but you never know | ||
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N.geNuity
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well, we all know they will | ||
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On September 10 2016 14:32 N.geNuity wrote: i hope to god tasteless and artosis don't fucking talk about sc2 the whole time well, we all know they will have you watched a single asl cast of theirs | ||
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Die4Ever
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On September 10 2016 14:27 The_Red_Viper wrote: Today is a protoss day, so yeah cheer for shuttle I'll cheer for Protoss here, cause I'm cheering for Byun after! That makes sense, right? And then I cheer for a zerg in the ZvZ SSL finals, perfect balance! | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On September 10 2016 14:34 usopsama wrote: They just showed a picture of savior? omg burn them alive! | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On September 10 2016 14:34 Die4Ever wrote: I'll cheer for Protoss here, cause I'm cheering for Byun after! That makes sense, right? And then I cheer for a zerg in the ZvZ SSL finals, perfect balance! Haha good idea! | ||
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N.geNuity
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On September 10 2016 14:34 Little-Chimp wrote: have you watched a single asl cast of theirs yes | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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WHAT A STAGE! | ||
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dr0pship
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anyone on teamspeak? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On September 10 2016 14:38 9heart wrote: Wow really impressive production here anyone on teamspeak? teamspeak? I thought it was discord | ||
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On September 10 2016 14:46 BigFan wrote: wth shuttle is married and has a child? "S Yeah ,7-8 month daughter | ||
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neobowman
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Jesus, I always wanted to make fun of that name but man. I think I'm going to have to start calling him that. So many emotions on both sides. Man. Can't both of them win? | ||
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BigFan
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never knew tbh ;; | ||
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NoS-Craig
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Love both but I'm still want Sharp to win. I still feel Shuttle is in real good nick though. Beating Last is impressive. | ||
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tanngard
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Kal had dragoons and they are supposed to be effective against lurkers without support. And they were! Kal kept clearing the lurker field, BUT it was taking to long, apparently Jaedong had droned up or something because he overruns poor kal. I kept telling everyone in the stream that dragoons are effective against lurker you have to listen to me guys .And Bakuryu and vOddy was like all nonchalant: nope he got rolled and he never stood a chance. My reply: But dragoons...effective against lurkers....no zergling support.... Man i'm sleepy | ||
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Little-Chimp
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On September 10 2016 14:52 The_Red_Viper wrote: blizzard is there huh, i wonder if we get some info today about a certain product Don't work my expectations up like that | ||
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Grettin
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On September 10 2016 14:52 The_Red_Viper wrote: blizzard is there huh, i wonder if we get some info today about a certain product I'd bet for blizzcon instead. | ||
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byj
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tanngard
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/2008_IEF Sharp has a deep history and has come a long way. | ||
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Kau
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On September 10 2016 15:00 BigFan wrote: damn, I'm so conflicted who I want to win! haha. I want legend of the fall but I also want sharp... | ||
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BigFan
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On September 10 2016 15:01 byj wrote: game sounds are too high =/ are you watching the english stream? The sounds on the KR one sound ok overall, not too bad. | ||
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BigFan
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On September 10 2016 15:01 Kau wrote: I want legend of the fall but I also want sharp... I wanted Sharp to win seeing as he's been making so much advancements but Shuttle with the child, dang lol. May the best player win! <- easiest conclusion XD | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:03 N.geNuity wrote: lol this dt is going to win rofl sharp, don't lose so easily  | ||
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Heyoka
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byj
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On September 10 2016 15:02 BigFan wrote: are you watching the english stream? The sounds on the KR one sound ok overall, not too bad. yep, can't understand any korean  | ||
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Die4Ever
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ok he got in | ||
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BigFan
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I see, I don't either but love their energy ^^ | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
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On September 10 2016 15:07 Heyoka wrote: I can't help but notice my stream died D: this truly IS like the old days Yeah, wow :D And now a Rekrul reference! Even older! | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
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On September 10 2016 15:08 Die4Ever wrote: ugh, plz blizz make reavers hovering units ok he got in You mean hovering as in don't trigger mines? | ||
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BigFan
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dang all those mine drags | ||
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Die4Ever
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On September 10 2016 15:10 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: You mean hovering as in don't trigger mines? yea lol, is joke | ||
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xccam
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On September 10 2016 15:11 BigFan wrote: dang all those mine drags he microed in a way that made them hit the most it looked like! | ||
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BigFan
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On September 10 2016 15:11 xccam wrote: he microed in a way that made them hit the most it looked like! ya, a bit of an odd decision with how he moved his army. | ||
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xccam
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On September 10 2016 15:13 AndAgain wrote: That DT damage seems to have been totally irrelevant. No it doesn't, Shuttle would have been quite behind without it. | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:21 BLinD-RawR wrote: these 12 o clock recalls are just biting at shuttle he should try and see if he can recall into the main because that 12 o'clock base is going to be hard to break atm. | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:25 bduddy wrote: As a SC2 fan, this is a fun game, but... lack of supply counts is really hurting it. The argument that "it makes it more dramatic!" always has been, and continues to be, wrong and stupid. I don't agree. But it's almost like neither of our opinions is representative of the population as a whole. GG though, great job shuttle. | ||
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BigFan
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On September 10 2016 15:25 bduddy wrote: As a SC2 fan, this is a fun game, but... lack of supply counts is really hurting it. The argument that "it makes it more dramatic!" always has been, and continues to be, wrong and stupid. I disagree but I don't think this is the best place to discuss pros/cons of that | ||
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This time my LB will be correct. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
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On September 10 2016 15:25 bduddy wrote: As a SC2 fan, this is a fun game, but... lack of supply counts is really hurting it. The argument that "it makes it more dramatic!" always has been, and continues to be, wrong and stupid. Yeah, it really is. It's not Brood War's fault, though. Back in 2008 OSL had the supply / mineral / gas counts. ~2009 the Gom Classic had unit counts and maybe even production! The software has been made; I don't know why they aren't using it... | ||
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Die4Ever
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On September 10 2016 15:25 bduddy wrote: As a SC2 fan, this is a fun game, but... lack of supply counts is really hurting it. The argument that "it makes it more dramatic!" always has been, and continues to be, wrong and stupid. I'm still undecided. Maybe supply counts are good for longish close games like this, but maybe it makes one sided games less fun cause it's easy to see how ahead the winning player is and then you're just asking for the gg already | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:29 Proko wrote: Pretty exciting game for a someone like me who hasn't watched much Brood War. Welcome. I am glad you liked it. | ||
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Anyway not expert pro but why Sharp refused to expand so hard? | ||
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Essbee
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On September 10 2016 15:31 phosphorylation wrote: It is autumn after all Feels like mid-summer watching here outside | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:32 Starecat wrote: If supply count is bad why OSL made one? Anyway not expert pro but why Sharp refused to expand so hard? hard to take 4th gas on that map as terran, cause you can't protect your 3rd natural gas and other exp so far away. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On September 10 2016 15:32 Starecat wrote: If supply count is bad why OSL made one? Anyway not expert pro but why Sharp refused to expand so hard? btw I know you people like to point out OGN supply counter thing but they only used it in tense situations or openings. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
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On September 10 2016 15:28 BigFan wrote: I disagree but I don't think this is the best place to discuss pros/cons of that Why don't you want to see supply counts? BW has had observer supply counts and even unit counts, and GOM had it (proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsZmZhrAHa0). Why did Afreeca not get this from GOM? Someone said that they aren't showing game timers because they were used for prop betting... I can't believe this because bettors can easily find something else to bet on and prop bets can get infinitely creative. And betting sites could easily add a timing layer to streams. Is this true / is there a link to an official explanation? | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:32 Starecat wrote: If supply count is bad why OSL made one? Anyway not expert pro but why Sharp refused to expand so hard? He can not expand as freely as Protoss because he need to have his army gathered. Later when he moved out however he was strong enough to mantain map control and could expand to the 3 o'clock. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
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On September 10 2016 15:34 BLinD-RawR wrote: btw I know you people like to point out OGN supply counter thing but they only used it in tense situations or openings. I'm afraid that's not accurate, for example: There were plenty of OSLs where supply was shown for the whole game for every game of the tournament. | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:35 Thouhastmail wrote: 1300 people how many people can the venue hold? | ||
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Die4Ever
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On September 10 2016 15:36 royalroadweed wrote: Those ads had a severe lack of sparkuling. here you go | ||
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BigFan
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On September 10 2016 15:34 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Why don't you want to see supply counts? BW has had observer supply counts and even unit counts, and GOM had it (proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsZmZhrAHa0). Why did Afreeca not get this from GOM? Someone said that they aren't showing game timers because they were used for prop betting... I can't believe this because bettors can easily find something else to bet on and prop bets can get infinitely creative. And betting sites could easily add a timing layer to streams. Is this true / is there a link to an official explanation? ya, I realize they had them later on. I feel that the only time that they may be useful is late game because they spoil too much in terms of who's in the lead and if the game is over. It's true that its difficult for a beginner to tell who's in the lead just from seeing the game but I don't think having supply count is a perfect solution precisely because of what I previously mentioned. | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:40 NoS-Craig wrote: Proxy by Shuttle? looks like it. Wonder what he has in mind. | ||
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tanngard
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That has to be IEF 2008 when he beat Savior for third place. Sharp was an amateur at that time | ||
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Thouhastmail
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6 to 7K. proleague had 3800. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
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On September 10 2016 15:35 Thouhastmail wrote: 1300 people Is that the in-person crowd? Here's what I've seen for streams: 5445 ENG Twitch 2481 AfreecaTV KR 24 BisuDagger 83 YouTube ENG 918 KR YouTube 8951 | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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BLinD-RawR
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On September 10 2016 15:43 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Is that the in-person crowd? Here's what I've seen for streams: 5445 ENG Twitch 2481 AfreecaTV KR 24 BisuDagger 83 YouTube ENG 918 KR YouTube 8951 afreeca kr has 9007 | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: no way that venue hold 7k people. unless they're just standing on the grass behind ya, that sounds a bit high? | ||
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Don't forget Terror's stream. Which TL doesn't show. | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: no way that venue hold 7k people. unless they're just standing on the grass behind http://m.terms.naver.com/entry.nhn?docId=2031639&cid=42856&categoryId=42856 it says that place has 8K seats. And I've been there | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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hmm, not so bad considering the finalists, but expected more for sure. | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:46 feckless wrote: Don't forget Terror's stream. Which TL doesn't show. I checked terror, hes not streaming. | ||
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feckless
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So why and how am I watching him and Larva casting right now? | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:48 feckless wrote: So why and how am I watching him and Larva casting right now? magic | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:47 BLinD-RawR wrote: hmm, not so bad considering the finalists, but expected more for sure. which players would've attracted more viewers for the finals? not familiar with the BW scene | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:50 Die4Ever wrote: which players would've attracted more viewers for the finals? not familiar with the BW scene Flash, Effort, Bisu (he didn't play in this tournament though) | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:51 The_Red_Viper wrote: Flash, Effort, Bisu (he didn't play in this tournament though) they're all still playing? crazy | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:50 Die4Ever wrote: which players would've attracted more viewers for the finals? not familiar with the BW scene Well there was a big crowd for the Flash vs. Bisu showmatch with Yellow and Nal Ra... but maybe that was for music or Overwatch I dunno | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:52 AndAgain wrote: Bisu and all the other BW streamers on the right are also streaming this. Oh wow are they doing their own commentaries? It would have been awesome if pro sports like NFL / MLB had been like that back when I watched those. | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:54 NoS-Craig wrote: Sensing a 3-0 by shuttle here. At least my LB will be right for once. There was no liquibet for this, no? | ||
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On September 10 2016 15:56 Proko wrote: So was this beatdown caused by the early rush or just the poor play in the lowground expo? Shuttle is just playing lightyears ahead of Sharp... | ||
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Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Shuttle Game 2? Yes (12) If you have time (11) No (4) 27 total votes Your vote: Recommend Sharp vs Shuttle Game 2? | ||
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epi
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On September 10 2016 15:56 Proko wrote: So was this beatdown caused by the early rush or just the poor play in the lowground expo? Technically you can say Sharp didn't properly arrange his defenses. But the real failure was in Sharp's game sense. He didn't set up his defense properly because he didn't think that a big attack on his expansion was the way this game was going. He thought Shuttle was slowed down more than he was, and incorrectly put Shuttle on still being in the powering phase when he was actually getting set up to attack. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3116 Posts
On September 10 2016 15:55 The_Red_Viper wrote: There was no liquibet for this, no? Just checked, there wasn't one I don't think. But I just assumed I pick Shuttle earlier in the week. Either way, relax man, it's ok. | ||
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Proko
United States1022 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:01 9heart wrote: Shuttle is just playing lightyears ahead of Sharp... What should I be looking for to see this difference? Other than the superior micro with the shuttle and zealots when he attacked the lowground. | ||
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
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nbaker
United States1341 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:02 NoS-Craig wrote: Just checked, there wasn't one I don't think. But I just assumed I pick Shuttle earlier in the week. Either way, relax man, it's ok. What seemed unrelaxed about what his question? | ||
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feckless
1099 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:01 neobowman wrote: Hoping Sharp will pull back for the next two games. He was up 2-0 against Sea and went back to 2-2 so he has to reverse that here. Different players. Different matchups. Sharp's vT is impressive, indeed, and he has been rather fortunate for it, since this run and VANT's run have largely been on the back of that matchup (although his shock win over ZerO was something else, too). But unless he considered the first two games to have been warm-ups, and he's about to get serious, it's becoming increasingly clear that his vP still needs some serious work. | ||
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covetousrat
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feckless
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nbaker
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On September 10 2016 16:06 covetousrat wrote: I dont follow bw just sc2 but where is jangbi? I believe he's in the military. Someone correct me if I'm wrong... | ||
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:03 ZiggyPG wrote: I'd really love to see them go all the way to the ace for a rematch on Circuit Breaker, Sharp was really close to winning there, so I'm fairly certain he could rectify his mistakes, but, well... here's hoping... I will agree with you. I even hoped that sharp would win this final, but i need a lot of hope right now | ||
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iu1nguoi0iuminh
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I hope Sharp will win in the game 3, I love Terran and I like to watch TvsP at map 4 (mountain) | ||
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Vivi57
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Starecat
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I think the last exciting final i watched live was PL 2014. | ||
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Grettin
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On September 10 2016 16:07 nbaker wrote: I believe he's in the military. Someone correct me if I'm wrong... Yep. Been in for few months. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
I have this idea for a film montage of Sharp learning to hate TvP: Sharp has to prep for an upcoming TvP game in Proleague or an individual league, whichever. He starts early in the morning before the sun rises, playing Jangbi before Stork lazily gets up at around ~10:45, and then he starts alternating between them every so many games. Coach January starts by looking warm and supportive, then by midday is yelling like the drill sergeant from Full Metal Jacket, and by the end of the day is overcome by depression and pity. Sharp looks calm, focused and hopeful at the start, and looks increasingly more intense, his eyes more and more bugging out and twitching like a berzerking anime character as the markerboard on the wall reads 0:5, 0:15... 0:50 finally. Stork's giving a few pointers at first... he gets more and more aloof and distracted and in his last shot of the montage he's using his left hand to play Brood War, his right hand to play World of Warcraft, and looking more at One Piece episodes on the third monitor than at his minimap. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:11 Proko wrote: Obviously Shuttle's been around awhile.. Did he play Terran in SC2 though? No. Other Shuttle played terran. | ||
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Proko
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Damn Korean pros and their inconsistent handles. | ||
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United States1022 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:19 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Man, I wish Shuttle didn't have that dud scarab earlier so that scarab karma had to give him this game, too... my worst fears confirmed for this final. I hope Starcraft doesn't go out on this note... Seems like it's just coming back... | ||
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AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
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xccam
Great Britain1150 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:18 Kau wrote: Some of the kills were marines. And he invested shuttle speed for it. It's still even right?! nah Getting both reaversand the shuttle is a good pick up at least | ||
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letian
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feckless
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:26 Isualin wrote: Protoss players are great at making widow mines useless. I rarely see them explode and kill stuff spider mines | ||
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byj
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rauk
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
gg shuttle | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Shuttle <3 i actually think that last game was pretty good. | ||
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United States4943 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Shuttle Game 3? Yes (24) If you have time (6) No (1) 31 total votes Your vote: Recommend Sharp vs Shuttle Game 3? Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Shuttle Game 4? If you have time (9) Yes (6) No (5) 20 total votes Your vote: Recommend Sharp vs Shuttle Game 4? | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3116 Posts
Oh, SC2 finals next 'LOL LOL LOL' | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:29 Scaramanga wrote: Can tasteless speak korean or is someone else translating? he does, yes. Artosis too. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:29 Scaramanga wrote: Can tasteless speak korean or is someone else translating? Bet he is getting the interview translated. Although, im sure he speaks a little at this point after all the lessons etc. | ||
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iloveav
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The_Red_Viper
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First game was really good, rest was kinda meh | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:28 Vivi57 wrote: No chariots of fire after the end of the last game I could have gone with another Vangelis track... + Show Spoiler + | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
I recently rewatched a GOM Star Invitational game (first Tasteless-casted Korean tournament) and he said "I don't know Korean... yet!" Great to see his growth. | ||
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dr0pship
Canada520 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:31 letian wrote: Shuttle is no Jangbi, Stork or Bisu, yet it was enough to get a clean 3-0 in the finals. I wonder would it be 3-0 if Flash didn't get 3-0ed by Last. Well, and Last took a game off Shuttle. | ||
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Jonoman92
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nbaker
United States1341 Posts
Hoping the next ASL comes in just enough time to feature Jaedong's return. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3116 Posts
Congratulations Shuttle on the tournament win. I thought Flash was gonna win at the start of this. I am still thankful I got to watch some Brood war games. Not into SC2 but Brood war will always have my interest. | ||
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:30 Grettin wrote: Bet he is getting the interview translated. Although, im sure he speaks a little at this point after all the lessons etc. He's getting it translated, he likes to joke that his Korean is passable but still like a grade schooler's, he can't do that live in his head fast enough yet. Recently got a new private tutor though so he wants to up his game a lot there. | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:34 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: It sounds like the players are talking about the sponsors like desperate people in a job interview... *sigh* I mean do what you gotta do to keep it alive, right? | ||
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NoS-Craig
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How ever, I am thankful for Tastosis casting these games and finals. I love that BW is back. I live in Australia so South Korea and our time zone is rather close. Thank you guys for the great tourney. I wanted Flash to win but what ever. I enjoyed this Tourney and I loved the commentary from you guys and rapid/Wolf as well. Can't wait for the next possible tourney to begin. | ||
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Nesto
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stopmakingsense
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:44 stopmakingsense wrote: I missed it, whats in December? Season 2 ASL? yes. | ||
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Wrath
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On September 10 2016 16:44 stopmakingsense wrote: I missed it, whats in December? Season 2 ASL? Yep. | ||
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: the question is,will jd be back for this ? ^^ He has a long time to practice for December so yes i think he will  | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19239 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: the question is,will jd be back for this ? ^^ His contract with EG will be up and he will be free to participate. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: the question is,will jd be back for this ? ^^ Hope so. Then we'll just need Bisu to enter and we got one hell of a stacked tourney! :D | ||
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iu1nguoi0iuminh
Vietnam44 Posts
Why did you know, but why next the season is in October 2016? I think October is better December, at least November is more rational it. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3116 Posts
I'm been blessed to have my internet back on in time to see the revival of Brood war begin. Flash losing was a bummer but the whole event was still fun to watch. I hope Tastosis stays around to continue the great casting of Brood War games. | ||
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vndestiny
Singapore3440 Posts
On September 10 2016 16:51 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: imagine flash bisu jaedong playing in ASL !!! one can dream And they all end up in the same group. With Sea. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3116 Posts
On September 10 2016 17:09 FlaShFTW wrote: Wait that's it? I'm at the airport right now. Wtf were the games like? I predicted Shuttle 3-1 but damn 3-0? + Show Spoiler + Shuttle owned 3-0. Got a little sloppy in game 3 but still flattened Sharp. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10158 Posts
On September 10 2016 17:10 vndestiny wrote: And they all end up in the same group. With Sea. I... I wouldn't mind this... I mean Flash won that MSL | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On September 10 2016 17:43 TaShadan wrote: I hope the viewer numbers were high enough! I want to watch ASL 2! ? They already confirmed it, starting december | ||
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Race Bannon
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2 to 0 already | ||
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lestye
United States4163 Posts
On September 10 2016 17:59 juvenal wrote: I am not trying to start anything, just food for thought: more people showed up for the SC2 event. Not what I would've expected given that BW is supposedly much more popular. That could be a plethora of reasons. SC2 finals are in the evening so its easier for people to come to watch after work. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On September 10 2016 17:59 juvenal wrote: I am not trying to start anything, just food for thought: more people showed up for the SC2 event. Not what I would've expected given that BW is supposedly much more popular. Thats true actually, there are more people for sc2 now but keep in mind that this is on a saturday and koreans work on saturday so the fact that sc1 was at 2:30pm didnt help. And I very often go to pc bangs here and I have never seen anyone play sc2 here, but I see a lot of people play sc1, ums in particular. | ||
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Race Bannon
689 Posts
On September 10 2016 18:09 Race Bannon wrote: Not a good time for foreigners, maybe. When I woke up it was + Show Spoiler + 2 to 0 already And with this I'm implying I would've teleported there earlier. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On September 10 2016 18:22 juvenal wrote: Could it also be that some people prefer watching these events casted by their favourite BJs? Flash/Bisu/Terror/Mind usually have lots of viewers during Starleague matches. Hmm yeah maybe, dunno about that but that's a good guess. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On September 10 2016 18:09 Race Bannon wrote: Not a good time for foreigners, maybe. When I woke up it was + Show Spoiler + 2 to 0 already BW is much more popular in Korea then Sc2. For foreigners, it's still the other way i think. | ||
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Germany4588 Posts
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On September 10 2016 19:15 CruelZeratul wrote: Was too late to catch the finals, were the games any good? First game was awesome | ||
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feckless
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I'm not saying it wasn't fun, just lackluster. I think despite some sloppiness Shuttle's play was amazing, and equally amazing to watch. And, of course, 3-0 blowouts are fun to watch in their own ways. But IMHO, and I'm not trying to disparage Sharp's effort or his dedication, he was way out of his league here, which could be one reason why Shuttle looked so bloody amazing. I commend Sharp for making it so far, as with Shuttle (lord knows we need different faces making it deeper in these tournaments). But I think he's fortunate to have even made it to the finals, because in my opinion he had no place in it. I think part of the reason is that he gets matched up with so many Terran players (the Terran roster is pretty stacked, so he probably gets plenty of practice, too), not to mention his group was the easiest of the bunch (no offense to those Group B players). His vT is impressive enough, and it's probably nice that he's been able to ride that wave deep into these tournaments. But his vP is sorely lacking. (Hell, I think if Jaehoon had somehow inexplicably managed to make it to these finals he would have had a good chance of winning.) Even in the first game, playing safe, he turtled a bit too long (while Shuttle bought time), and when he finally moved out, he got wiped off the battlefield. Shuttle's control of the games, along with his deeper strategic play and preparedness, his economic command, superior map control, and tactical prowess, completely shut down Sharp to the point where he had no answer to anything Shuttle threw at him. I'm really curious as to why anyone would have thought Sharp had a chance in this series (other than some emotional longing), especially if you also consider that his competition was the guy that 3-1'ed Last (widely considered to be the current best player, the AlphaGo). Anyway... Having said all that, congratulations still go to Shuttle on a deserved, dominating win. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On September 10 2016 20:11 ne4aJIb wrote: First game was good, the rest is total crap. Yeah first game was good, rest was meh. | ||
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Race Bannon
689 Posts
On September 10 2016 20:16 The_Red_Viper wrote: Yeah first game was good, rest was meh. + Show Spoiler [spoiler] + Why-o why did he cancel the turret. In the first game it was masterful economy micromanagement, but in the last game the amount of minerals salvaged was not worth it. Huge blunder he'll be hating himself for. The reaver connect was crucial for shuttle to warrant his tech choice, and lol did he get that. The attack on sharp's 3rd was superlatively executed and sealed the deal. Fortune favors the bold but not the greedyness-kind. GG | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On September 10 2016 19:26 feckless wrote: Maybe I'm alone here, but I think this was a pretty lackluster finals. I'm not saying it wasn't fun, just lackluster. I think despite some sloppiness Shuttle's play was amazing, and equally amazing to watch. And, of course, 3-0 blowouts are fun to watch in their own ways. But IMHO, and I'm not trying to disparage Sharp's effort or his dedication, he was way out of his league here, which could be one reason why Shuttle looked so bloody amazing. I commend Sharp for making it so far, as with Shuttle (lord knows we need different faces making it deeper in these tournaments). But I think he's fortunate to have even made it to the finals, because in my opinion he had no place in it. I think part of the reason is that he gets matched up with so many Terran players (the Terran roster is pretty stacked, so he probably gets plenty of practice, too), not to mention his group was the easiest of the bunch (no offense to those Group B players). His vT is impressive enough, and it's probably nice that he's been able to ride that wave deep into these tournaments. But his vP is sorely lacking. (Hell, I think if Jaehoon had somehow inexplicably managed to make it to these finals he would have had a good chance of winning.) Even in the first game, playing safe, he turtled a bit too long (while Shuttle bought time), and when he finally moved out, he got wiped off the battlefield. Shuttle's control of the games, along with his deeper strategic play and preparedness, his economic command, superior map control, and tactical prowess, completely shut down Sharp to the point where he had no answer to anything Shuttle threw at him. I'm really curious as to why anyone would have thought Sharp had a chance in this series (other than some emotional longing), especially if you also consider that his competition was the guy that 3-1'ed Last (widely considered to be the current best player, the AlphaGo). Anyway... Having said all that, congratulations still go to Shuttle on a deserved, dominating win. I agree with most of your points. TvP is certainly not Sharps strong point. And not on the level of flash's or last's. Sometimes, there are finals that are blowouts. That's life. But to say he had no place in the final is just a huge pile of bullshit. He advanced in his group and won all knock out rounds afterwards. Therefore, he did deserve to be in the finals. It's that easy. Sure, he had some luck in the MUs before, but tournament play always involves a bit of luck. But to say he didn't deserve to be there just because the final happens to be his worst MU and his opponent is extremely strong in it is just not fair to sharp. | ||
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RealityIsKing
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On September 10 2016 23:28 B-royal wrote: Zerg makes for the best finals imo. ZvP and ZvT are both insanely good match-ups. Maybe it's because I don't play it myself, but I don't like TvP all that much. Honestly Sharp played like crap though. He had no follow up to any of his plans. When his strat didn't go to what he had in mind, he couldn't adapt at all. When it was Sea vs Sharp, it was more of a game where Sea lost than Sharp won. When Sea got a huge advantage with his wraith, the key is to transition that into ground army. It was a calculated mistake where no matter how much wraith you have, you can't stop 1 full group control of Tanks before it takes out your Command Center. Shuttle just let his experience take over and Sharp just fell completely apart. | ||
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Australia3116 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
Maybe I'm just happy to be able to see a BW finals in a large outdoor venue after all these years but the games seemed fun to me (although not perfect of course). | ||
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prech
United States2948 Posts
On September 10 2016 19:10 Ilikestarcraft wrote: Kind of funny how Shuttle was considered the punching bag of the tournament at the group selection ceremony and he ended up getting first place. So very true, so many stickers during selection | ||
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
Ok, game 2 ... another stomp! P now 2-0 in great style ... stream lasting 5 hours though.... i am starting to get worried ... dramatic ending in sight? Great plays, the one who dared most, WON!!! | ||
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konadora
Singapore66163 Posts
Shuttle played so well, I was sure Sharp was going to win that first game but after getting half his army caught out in the middle with no mines or sieged tanks.. man what a reversal! Sharp.. I think he just mentally fell apart after game 2, he kept defending but he had literally no comeback to depend on. Shuttle constantly traded equally with Sharp, leaving Sharp no time to be able to slowly amass surviving units from each defense into one large 2/1 or 3/2 push. Shuttle also expanded aggressively when he could, he constantly out-expanded Sharp by at least 2 bases for every game lol. While 3-0 is disappointing I admit, the games were pretty fun to watch and kept me glued to till then. Hoping for more exposure and support for ASL in the future | ||
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Little-Chimp
Canada948 Posts
On September 10 2016 21:23 nojok wrote: I'v been punished for not watching it live, the vod's length spoiled me the result after the end of game 1. Shuttle was a far better player, still very interesting to watch, shuttle decision making was very interesting. yeah I wish they would cut it up into 5 vods and make the last 2 just have a message saying series over or something. | ||
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Peeano
Netherlands4990 Posts
On September 11 2016 04:22 Little-Chimp wrote: yeah I wish they would cut it up into 5 vods and make the last 2 just have a message saying series over or something. If the games get uploaded individually you would still occasionally spoil the game if you take note of the length of the VOD. Just go full screen asap after you load the VOD. Now if you're impatient and start skipping then I understand it's easy to get spoiled. ASL only uploaded content as a whole and I opted to post VODs asap with each 2 different sources to avoid TL getting spammed with people asking when the VODs will be up. It is a whole lot more work to post it game by game (especially if I were to do so for all 6 sources), but since I hate getting spoiled, I will keep it in mind for the future. | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
On September 11 2016 04:58 Peeano wrote: If the games get uploaded individually you would still occasionally spoil the game if you take note of the length of the VOD. Just go full screen asap after you load the VOD. Now if you're impatient and start skipping then I understand it's easy to get spoiled. ASL only uploaded content as a whole and I opted to post VODs asap with each 2 different sources to avoid TL getting spammed with people asking when the VODs will be up. It is a whole lot more work to post it game by game (especially if I were to do so for all 6 sources), but since I hate getting spoiled, I will keep it in mind for the future. I watched Twitch VOD which was 5 hours because they didn't end stream after BW was over and continue with GSL. | ||
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Peeano
Netherlands4990 Posts
On September 11 2016 05:12 outscar wrote: I watched Twitch VOD which was 5 hours because they didn't end stream after BW was over and continue with GSL. That's unfortunate. When I posted that VOD, it was actually only the ASL final. I guess they still merged the broadcasts in the end. (The reason I didn't post a 2nd source for the Korean VOD was because it has ASL and GSL merged.) | ||
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On September 11 2016 05:36 Peeano wrote: That's unfortunate. When I posted that VOD, it was actually only the ASL final. I guess they still merged the broadcasts in the end. (The reason I didn't post a 2nd source for the Korean VOD was because it has ASL and GSL merged.) But that's good...you don't get spoiled by the length. Granted for people with DL limits that might be a problem but at least for me it would have been better to get the 5h one, after game 2 I knew it would be a 3-1 at best due to the amount of time remaining. | ||
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feckless
1099 Posts
On September 10 2016 21:05 Keniji wrote: I agree with most of your points. TvP is certainly not Sharps strong point. And not on the level of flash's or last's. Sometimes, there are finals that are blowouts. That's life. But to say he had no place in the final is just a huge pile of bullshit. He advanced in his group and won all knock out rounds afterwards. Therefore, he did deserve to be in the finals. It's that easy. Sure, he had some luck in the MUs before, but tournament play always involves a bit of luck. But to say he didn't deserve to be there just because the final happens to be his worst MU and his opponent is extremely strong in it is just not fair to sharp. I never said there aren't 3-0 blowouts. Read my post again. I said they're fun to watch in their own ways. Sometimes watching dominating performances is as fun for me as slugfests. I also never said Sharp didn't "deserve" to be there. "Deserve"'s got nothing to do with it. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he was very very fortunate that the field is so Terran-heavy, and that he got placed in the weakest group (that he still had to play tiebreakers to get out of), because who's to say where he would have ended up otherwise. He got to where he got to, so good for him. Shuttle, on the other hand, had to contend in a group with EffOrt and free and took out Last on his way to the finals. Let me put it this way: based on yesterday's performances, I think if you put Sharp in front of any top Protoss, the result is still the same; any other Protoss and there's a good chance he loses. On the other hand, put any other Terran in front of Shuttle, and they would most likely lose. That's how dominating his performance was; that's how deserving his win. On September 10 2016 22:34 outscar wrote: I don't agree with feckless. Jesus, Shuttle's play is so perfect - timings are exact, great micro with outsanding macro, bulletproof defense. Hell, not counting how hard and stacked this tournament was, even premilinaries were cancer - he did it! I don't know what to say... In other hand Sea could've shown better finals. Except you're not disagreeing with anything I'm saying. Because I said Shuttle's play was amazing and his win was deserved. | ||
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Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
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lestye
United States4163 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On September 11 2016 21:00 lestye wrote: Do you guys think ASL will be more punctual next year? I complain about this a lot, but it kinda sucks in January they said we're getting 2 ASLs this year, when we basically only got 1 starleague this year, when you consider Vant Starleague in Janruary was just wrapping up the Starleague from 2015, and 2016 ASL is starting December, and if its like your regular 3 month league, most of it will be in the year 2017. It's gonna feel really barren the next 3 months. I'm sure something will come along to fill the gap between now and the next season. | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
I actually didn't expect this attendance. Costumes are back haha. Damn this intro is so good. Is there a version with translations? The stage also looks like a throwback to the old days edit - nvm, the second part with the interview has subs | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
Game 2: 4 kill zeal o.o. Early game was incredibly messy haha. What a timing from Shuttle, even after losing so many goons to mines early on... Wow Shuttle probably has twice Sharp's supply now. Game 3: 11 kill reaver nice. Shuttle's reaver-shuttle smh. Nice defense from Sharp. Storm drop, Shuttle keeps surprising. Despite, Shuttle's significantly sloppy control, he just outclassed Sharp this game. He's playing like Zerg right now, streams of units. GG Kind of bittersweet but Shuttle was just so much better. wow | ||
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Broodwar4lyf
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
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VGhost
United States3613 Posts
Nice to see a non-Bisu Protoss winning something, too. EDIT: It did also occur to me just now that I'd love to see what fantasy would do in this PvT meta. Drops and vultures seems like it would massively slow down the Protoss spread, but neither Last nor Sharp really got enough pressure out most of the time. | ||
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