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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
March 19 2007 00:20 GMT
#901
Starcraft is not Macro nor late game.
Starcraft = all possible aspects of the game mixed together, so if savior cant handle a bunk rush maybe he should alter his strategy or practice some more (like thats possible ^.^)
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
March 19 2007 16:59 GMT
#902
On March 18 2007 16:16 red.venom wrote:
815 is so gay: ] The map lineup here was just roflll

ya the maps were pretty rotten for ZvT, all Nada had to do was put in a solid effort and utilize the maps terran advantages and not much savior could do.

savior may be good but even he needs a little help from the map pool!
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
March 19 2007 18:52 GMT
#903
I was under the impression that Shinhan 3 had one of the worst map pools for zvt, and look what savior was able to do there >___>

or gom msl, which prolly had an even worse pool for zvt than osl this season.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
March 20 2007 01:46 GMT
#904
The map pools nowadays, as much as they're complained about, are actually fairly passable. I mean, there aren't the travesties that were NFZ, HoV, Paradoxxx - imbalance nowadays is like 60-40, or 55-45 none of the crazy 80-20 stuff [at times some maps are, but then the losing side figures something out - examples, Arcadia II, Longinus II]
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-20 02:32:26
March 20 2007 02:31 GMT
#905
On March 20 2007 01:59 a-game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2007 16:16 red.venom wrote:
815 is so gay: ] The map lineup here was just roflll

ya the maps were pretty rotten for ZvT, all Nada had to do was put in a solid effort and utilize the maps terran advantages and not much savior could do.

savior may be good but even he needs a little help from the map pool!

Wow, people need to stop complaining about balance.

Hitchhiker was overwhelmingly favorable for terran when it first came out, but zerg started to dominate on it.

Also for this Master Series... Arkanoid is extremely hard for terran to win against zerg on, yet NaDa did it against the best.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
March 20 2007 04:03 GMT
#906
all should stfu about imbalance.. except if we talk about ZvT on 815. Every other map.. isnt clearly imbalanced .. at least not at pro gamer level..


hatred outlives the hateful
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
March 22 2007 07:04 GMT
#907
haha you guys are dumb, i'm pretty sure if you asked savior his opinion he'd be pretty sour about the map pool. but yeah, you guys are the pros so i shouldn't even bother disagreeing!
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
March 22 2007 07:09 GMT
#908
On March 22 2007 16:04 a-game wrote:
haha you guys are dumb, i'm pretty sure if you asked savior his opinion he'd be pretty sour about the map pool. but yeah, you guys are the pros so i shouldn't even bother disagreeing!

.....you've talked to savior? how is your opinion different from anyone else's save for the added cynicism?
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
March 22 2007 07:16 GMT
#909
"
▶I’m very happy. All I can say is thanks. I have worked so hard for today’s match. The maps were so hard for Zerg I practiced so much looking for answers."

from the shinhan 3 interview

you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
March 23 2007 02:07 GMT
#910
for sure he blames the maps..
what else should he do..

guys..
dont take away credit from NaDa's wins. NO one did when savior won vs NaDa.. or Bisu won vs Savior..

T_T

=)
hatred outlives the hateful
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4653 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-23 05:44:11
March 23 2007 05:31 GMT
#911
These maps are so good and BALANCE.

Let's all use them for this year's WCG. Surely no one will complain since now people will be force to play on these balance maps that is 815, Reverse Lost Temple & Neo Arkanoid.

Even if the map was TvZ 100:10, the statistics doesn't mean anything since we know the Zerg player just wasn't good enough like always.

Maps like Tau Cross & Blitz X sucks because somehow Zerg and Protoss players beat Terran. Terran players are always better so how can they lose?

/sarcasm

Whenever I watch the Starleague qualifier games on these maps, I usually just fast forward it since the ending is kind of predictable most of the time.

Oh Savior.. why does OGN hate you?
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
March 23 2007 05:34 GMT
#912
On March 23 2007 11:07 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
for sure he blames the maps..
what else should he do..

guys..
dont take away credit from NaDa's wins. NO one did when savior won vs NaDa.. or Bisu won vs Savior..

T_T

=)

I don't like nada.
I don't like savior.

But Nada pulled a hidden metal dildo from his back pocket and raped savior from behind with savior facing the front holding his dick out to rape him instead.

I want to them to fuck themselves face to face, these games sucked ass and clearly don't show the real strength of skills of both players.
niceplayer
Profile Joined March 2007
United States238 Posts
March 23 2007 05:41 GMT
#913
The map pool is unbalanced cus there's the imbalance of race: 3 terrans and 1 zerg. If there'd been 2 zergs and 2 terrans there'd be no complaints.

Terran players have the luxury of knowing that for years they've dominated the scene. Not to take anything away from nada, but his dominance is nothing like savior's.
free[gm] - redeemer toss fighting!
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
March 23 2007 09:54 GMT
#914
On March 23 2007 14:41 niceplayer wrote:

Terran players have the luxury of knowing that for years they've dominated the scene. Not to take anything away from nada, but his dominance is nothing like savior's.


U are such a big idiot. I wonder why you arent banned already.

Luxury of knowing that they dominated .. omg wtf ?
NaDa's dominance is like 3 X times saviors dominance ? NaDa plays successfully since .. 01 ? or 02 ? Thats 5 years.. playing with the best and winning vs the best..

I find this more impressive than winning vs everyone for a few month and then losing and winning some.. we'll have yet to see how well saviors keeps doing ..

but as for now.. no one can touch NaDa in terms of success ans dominance.. for such a long time..
hatred outlives the hateful
niceplayer
Profile Joined March 2007
United States238 Posts
March 23 2007 10:29 GMT
#915
Why are you telling me how long each one has played?

Read it again you fool.
free[gm] - redeemer toss fighting!
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4653 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-23 11:24:48
March 23 2007 10:43 GMT
#916
On March 23 2007 18:54 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Luxury of knowing that they dominated .. omg wtf ?
NaDa's dominance is like 3 X times saviors dominance ? NaDa plays successfully since .. 01 ? or 02 ? Thats 5 years.. playing with the best and winning vs the best..


He's saying Terrans constantly win Starleague while Savior has been the 2nd Zerg to ever win OGN Starleagues.
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
ApollyoN
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1297 Posts
March 23 2007 10:56 GMT
#917
On March 23 2007 18:54 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2007 14:41 niceplayer wrote:

Terran players have the luxury of knowing that for years they've dominated the scene. Not to take anything away from nada, but his dominance is nothing like savior's.


U are such a big idiot. I wonder why you arent banned already.

Luxury of knowing that they dominated .. omg wtf ?
NaDa's dominance is like 3 X times saviors dominance ? NaDa plays successfully since .. 01 ? or 02 ? Thats 5 years.. playing with the best and winning vs the best..

I find this more impressive than winning vs everyone for a few month and then losing and winning some.. we'll have yet to see how well saviors keeps doing ..

but as for now.. no one can touch NaDa in terms of success ans dominance.. for such a long time..


Savior has been doing his thing for a couple of years now too, not just a 'few months'. I think Savior's dominance easily compares to Nada and iloveoov's, both in terms of time and skill. You're right about Nada's consistency being incredible, and I believe that it is what seperates him from all other progamers. But you cant say that NaDa has been dominant since 2002... I think his reign ended about 2004/2005 with oov's emergence.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
March 23 2007 10:59 GMT
#918
wtf savior has NOT been "doing this" for a couple of years.

Tell me, when was he prominent before 2005 Uzoo, his first major win? That was roughly fall of 2005, and he was still a 2v2 guy in Proleague.

WIdely accepted dominance of savior started in 2006, and even if you count 2005's Uzoo, that's under two years by a good margin.
ApollyoN
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1297 Posts
March 23 2007 11:18 GMT
#919
Uzoo, which started his dominance, started 4/21/05, which would make it roughly two years. Why are you nit-picking anyway even if you count it as 18 months thats still pretty much an eternity relative to pro-gaming's age, with a 'couple years' meant to express that not give an exact time period. How about he dominated for roughly 570.2 days, is that ok with you?
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