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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
October 28 2015 11:06 GMT
#61
So long as kwanro doesnt fall apart, I dont see him losing this, seems like he has a pretty clear advantage at this point.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1441 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-28 11:07:30
October 28 2015 11:07 GMT
#62
Leta got so close to dealing with it well enough.

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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3337 Posts
October 28 2015 11:11 GMT
#63
Bisu vs Kwanro coming up. I'm interested in seeing a PvZ with both of them but I don't see Bisu losing with all the games he has been playing on FS on his stream.
김택용 Fighting!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 28 2015 11:14 GMT
#64
Fun to see that some things haven't changed since I got into SC a hundred years ago; Kwanro is still aggressive as hell, and you really can't cut any corners against him.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
October 28 2015 11:15 GMT
#65
hey holgy!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-28 11:17:36
October 28 2015 11:16 GMT
#66
Leta should have done anyhing to take out the natural expansion at the top left corner. He sieged to take out the lurker defending it. Why? Tanks have longer rage, he could have simply just killed them in no time - even faster than siege mode because the splash damage does not effect borrowed lurkers. Then after he had killed the lurkers, then he could have moved closer to the hatchery and killed it.

In the meantime he should have taken the 6 o'clock base. I never understood why players are so conservative in taking expansions. Sure it costs some money, but how is you opponent going to attack them all? That is what Kwanro thought and he won because of it
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1441 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-28 11:57:23
October 28 2015 11:20 GMT
#67
On October 28 2015 20:16 tanngard wrote:
Leta should have done anyhing to take out the natural expansion at the top left corner. He sieged to take out the lurker defending it. Why? Tanks have longer rage, he could have simply just killed them in no time - even faster than siege mode because the splash damage does not effect borrowed lurkers. Then after he had killed the lurkers, then he could have moved closer to the hatchery and killed it.

In the meantime he should have taken the 6 o'clock base. I never understood why players are so conservative in taking expansions. Sure it costs some money, but how is you opponent going to attack them all? That is what Kwanro thought and he won because of it


Tanks often run into lurker-range if you let them attack unsieged, and Leta has other stuff to do, too. Sieging up kills them safely if you're busy elsewhere and it doesn't waste that much time, also you expect other units to come help the lurkers. It's situational tho, mb not sieging would have been right here.

Kwanro actually would have a short way to attack that 6 o'clock... with lurk/ling and swarm. On that lvl you have to be very careful taking expansions, especially as Terran.

Kwanro was quite ahead after his 2hatch, thus he could take 2 bases easily.

Leta should have attacked top left tho, i agree, but earlier, with his first push, there was no nydus there.


And burrowed lurkers/units do take damage from splash.
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-28 11:20:49
October 28 2015 11:20 GMT
#68
So GTR is in studio in korea, where is XKCD?
Luv ya BroodWar!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 28 2015 11:20 GMT
#69
Hey, old KT buddy!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
October 28 2015 11:21 GMT
#70
HAHAHAHAHA Bisu is going for another Cannon rush
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
October 28 2015 11:22 GMT
#71
On October 28 2015 20:20 _Animus_ wrote:
So GTR is in studio in korea, where is XKCD?


in his apartment in the US.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
October 28 2015 11:22 GMT
#72
leta was not truly ready for this tourney anyway, he only came back last month and needed more practice. his rine control and overall mechanics was just slow. (and most of the time i see his stream hes trying too hard to do wraiths every game then practice standard)
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
940 Posts
October 28 2015 11:24 GMT
#73
Man that second voice in the english broadcast feels like he forgot to swallow his food.
:3
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
October 28 2015 11:26 GMT
#74
I'm not sure how Kwanro will be able to defend both 9 and 10...
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
October 28 2015 11:28 GMT
#75
is terror streaming from his kid's nursery?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
October 28 2015 11:31 GMT
#76
NO SWEAT
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
940 Posts
October 28 2015 11:31 GMT
#77
lol almost 20k on Terror stream, why?
:3
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
October 28 2015 11:32 GMT
#78
GG, kwanro couldve just won simply if he attacked bisu instead of the cannon at his natural. Bisu had 1 cannon and nothing to block the lings from runing by, and you know how 6 or 8 lings do against probes.
Luv ya BroodWar!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
October 28 2015 11:34 GMT
#79
On October 28 2015 20:31 Starecat wrote:
lol almost 20k on Terror stream, why?


because terror and britney are pretty crazy and entertaining, people really love them.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
October 28 2015 11:36 GMT
#80
On October 28 2015 20:20 Highgamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2015 20:16 tanngard wrote:
Leta should have done anyhing to take out the natural expansion at the top left corner. He sieged to take out the lurker defending it. Why? Tanks have longer rage, he could have simply just killed them in no time - even faster than siege mode because the splash damage does not effect borrowed lurkers. Then after he had killed the lurkers, then he could have moved closer to the hatchery and killed it.

In the meantime he should have taken the 6 o'clock base. I never understood why players are so conservative in taking expansions. Sure it costs some money, but how is you opponent going to attack them all? That is what Kwanro thought and he won because of it


Tanks often run into lurker-range if you let them attack unsieged, and Leta has other stuff to do, too. Sieging up kills them safely if you're busy elsewhere and it doesn't waste that much time, also you expect other units to come help the lurkers. It's situational tho, mb not sieging would have been right here.

Kwanro actually would have a short way to attack that 6 o'clock... with lurk/ling and swarm. On that lvl you have to be very careful taking expansions, especially as Terran.

Kwanro was quite ahead after his 2hatch, thus he could take 2 bases easily.

Leta should have attacked top left tho, i agree, but earlier, with his first push, there was no nydus there.

Fair points, but remember the expansions in the top left were hidden expansions. He did not discover them before the natural one was finished. If Leta had used a bit more time in positioning his tanks he could have used one scan and no siege and it would have taken care of the lurkers in no time and he would have killed of the expansion afterwards. I,m not saying it's easy however. Thanks for response
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