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GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-11 22:30:17
October 11 2015 22:29 GMT
#441
@ the mode and your incapability to handle criticism:

yes of course the mode helps inactivity. What point is there to show up if your games do not matter? If it was me handling this league for Germany, I'd give France the walk over and do a fun war instead - with other maps, less kind of stress and use as much player slots as possible, as well as the freedom to pick times which suit both teams the best. Or, if France doesn't want to, I'd ask another team with a similar situation, so we get to see more than a merged clan (no offense, still <3 you ZaRaki et al), Poland and Myu's furious Frenchies. Or get in a situation, in which two people make time on a sunday only to realize that - out of the blue - a set was postponed about 20 hours before deadline.

Also

  • R/S Threads usually display R/S and not cryptic nonsense
  • Grids can be done and displayed with various tools, MS Paint is worse than MS Frontpage
  • your English is worse than mine, you're a native, and yet you are bold enough to ask for a leader to "be capable of communicating in English".
  • Geography doesn't matter for this event at all, it could as well be a clan league
  • seriously, you can not invent words, you're not German, that's our thing. We invented a system called "grammar" for that, it also has an add-on called "Phonetics". Your language doesn't.
  • your elimination mode is redundant, as explained in your blog, it could very well lead to positions in which teams play each other THREE TIMES
  • it doesn't make sense to have qualifiers with six teams for a total of twelve teams. Oh sure, let's just re-name it and call it a league with 2,5 play days, because you invent a ton of shit along the way.
  • "9) If you have any questions about the rules, you must contact the organization, not knowing the rules or misinterpreting them is not an excuse." If you actually followed through with this, you would have needed to ban 95% of players in this thread at least once*
  • casters are not hard to come by for you, you got support, don't blame your faults on other people yet again. The casters for this event were superb
  • coverage means coverage. Posting on two different accounts over the course of several weeks is not coverage. Coverage means presentation of information in an understandable way. Holy shit, I understand you might not be in a position to follow through with it, but don't disguise your incompetent ways as excuse.


*
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Edit: Just to be clear, this isn't directed at the casters or animus. This is directed at you. The rest seemed to act a lot more capable.
fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
October 12 2015 01:58 GMT
#442
On October 12 2015 07:12 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 07:07 fearthequeen wrote:
On October 11 2015 15:53 fearthequeen wrote:
On October 07 2015 10:57 EBPNationWars wrote:
If Peru have 2 or less people show to any of their remaining CW, all of their CW will be counted with the same score of 0-3. This includes CW that have already been played.


Why would it include the ones that have already been played?

still waiting on an answer

Even the playing field. If a team shows once during the season, it's not fair to attribute W.O to every game asside from the one they showed up to.


I don't understand how its fair. Both of our wars vs Peru only Zancco came, but we still played the sets, they brought full lineup vs Canada too (ace match walkover wtf). Since they were 0-4 record and mathematically out of course they weren't going to show up given their overall activity level. So now you are just going to disregard the sets the people showed up and played? It's not as if they were completely inactive.

If we're going to talk about fairness lets address Pool C... There's luck of the draw involved throughout, so yeah USA would happen to benefit from the way Pool A panned out regarding Peru's activity. That doesn't mean that you should erase the sets that were played.
NAKR`flying
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
October 12 2015 03:08 GMT
#443
On October 12 2015 10:58 fearthequeen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 07:12 Eywa- wrote:
On October 12 2015 07:07 fearthequeen wrote:
On October 11 2015 15:53 fearthequeen wrote:
On October 07 2015 10:57 EBPNationWars wrote:
If Peru have 2 or less people show to any of their remaining CW, all of their CW will be counted with the same score of 0-3. This includes CW that have already been played.


Why would it include the ones that have already been played?

still waiting on an answer

Even the playing field. If a team shows once during the season, it's not fair to attribute W.O to every game asside from the one they showed up to.


I don't understand how its fair. Both of our wars vs Peru only Zancco came, but we still played the sets, they brought full lineup vs Canada too (ace match walkover wtf). Since they were 0-4 record and mathematically out of course they weren't going to show up given their overall activity level. So now you are just going to disregard the sets the people showed up and played? It's not as if they were completely inactive.

If we're going to talk about fairness lets address Pool C... There's luck of the draw involved throughout, so yeah USA would happen to benefit from the way Pool A panned out regarding Peru's activity. That doesn't mean that you should erase the sets that were played.

If their attendance had to do with their score, I would agree with you... The team played 2/6 matches AND gave Walk Over in those matches... It seems like a standard CL procedure to assign Walk Over matches for all of a team's games once they reach a certain amount of walk over sets.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
October 12 2015 04:35 GMT
#444
On October 12 2015 12:08 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 10:58 fearthequeen wrote:
On October 12 2015 07:12 Eywa- wrote:
On October 12 2015 07:07 fearthequeen wrote:
On October 11 2015 15:53 fearthequeen wrote:
On October 07 2015 10:57 EBPNationWars wrote:
If Peru have 2 or less people show to any of their remaining CW, all of their CW will be counted with the same score of 0-3. This includes CW that have already been played.


Why would it include the ones that have already been played?

still waiting on an answer

Even the playing field. If a team shows once during the season, it's not fair to attribute W.O to every game asside from the one they showed up to.


I don't understand how its fair. Both of our wars vs Peru only Zancco came, but we still played the sets, they brought full lineup vs Canada too (ace match walkover wtf). Since they were 0-4 record and mathematically out of course they weren't going to show up given their overall activity level. So now you are just going to disregard the sets the people showed up and played? It's not as if they were completely inactive.

If we're going to talk about fairness lets address Pool C... There's luck of the draw involved throughout, so yeah USA would happen to benefit from the way Pool A panned out regarding Peru's activity. That doesn't mean that you should erase the sets that were played.

If their attendance had to do with their score, I would agree with you... The team played 2/6 matches AND gave Walk Over in those matches... It seems like a standard CL procedure to assign Walk Over matches for all of a team's games once they reach a certain amount of walk over sets.


haha, ok. Just seems a bit weird you wouldn't include something like this in the rules from the start. Because it can have a big impact on the outcome.

NAKR`flying
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1483 Posts
October 12 2015 09:49 GMT
#445
On October 12 2015 13:35 fearthequeen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 12:08 Eywa- wrote:
On October 12 2015 10:58 fearthequeen wrote:
On October 12 2015 07:12 Eywa- wrote:
On October 12 2015 07:07 fearthequeen wrote:
On October 11 2015 15:53 fearthequeen wrote:
On October 07 2015 10:57 EBPNationWars wrote:
If Peru have 2 or less people show to any of their remaining CW, all of their CW will be counted with the same score of 0-3. This includes CW that have already been played.


Why would it include the ones that have already been played?

still waiting on an answer

Even the playing field. If a team shows once during the season, it's not fair to attribute W.O to every game asside from the one they showed up to.


I don't understand how its fair. Both of our wars vs Peru only Zancco came, but we still played the sets, they brought full lineup vs Canada too (ace match walkover wtf). Since they were 0-4 record and mathematically out of course they weren't going to show up given their overall activity level. So now you are just going to disregard the sets the people showed up and played? It's not as if they were completely inactive.

If we're going to talk about fairness lets address Pool C... There's luck of the draw involved throughout, so yeah USA would happen to benefit from the way Pool A panned out regarding Peru's activity. That doesn't mean that you should erase the sets that were played.

If their attendance had to do with their score, I would agree with you... The team played 2/6 matches AND gave Walk Over in those matches... It seems like a standard CL procedure to assign Walk Over matches for all of a team's games once they reach a certain amount of walk over sets.


haha, ok. Just seems a bit weird you wouldn't include something like this in the rules from the start. Because it can have a big impact on the outcome.



Would probably not change anything thou (since there is no way to anticipate what team will not come).
Also, I do think that the assign walk over for every match makes sense, so It seems ok.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 20:09:47
October 12 2015 16:21 GMT
#446
We will have cast today, with probably the match of the week, France vs European Fusion.
After the sparks between the two teams turned into fire we are looking for nothing but a great match.

Catspaw will provide the commentarry for you.

Live now: http://www.hitbox.tv/lrmcatspaw/


No reps for Baltic vs Hungary from 2v2 set, send them to the email so they can get casted tomorrow.
Luv ya BroodWar!
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1534 Posts
October 13 2015 08:58 GMT
#447
On October 13 2015 01:21 _Animus_ wrote:
We will have cast today, with probably the match of the week, France vs European Fusion.
After the sparks between the two teams turned into fire we are looking for nothing but a great match.

Catspaw will provide the commentarry for you.

Live now: http://www.hitbox.tv/lrmcatspaw/

Is there a VOD for this available yet?
Also, have the other matches of last week's been cast/are there VODs for those (I have only seen Rus/Hun and Swe/Can)?
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 17:09:37
October 13 2015 10:08 GMT
#448
Week 5 Results


Canada vs Peru
3-0 Walkover

Sweden vs USA

Overall
+ Show Spoiler +
4:0

1v1
+ Show Spoiler +
Naugrim 2:0 Bard
Voddy 2:0 Sugo
Marwin 2:0 Flying

2v2
+ Show Spoiler +
Mad + Nizzy 2:0 flying + sugo

Ace
+ Show Spoiler +
none


France vs European Fusion

Overall
+ Show Spoiler +
2:3

1v1
+ Show Spoiler +
Kenzy 0:2 dsaqwe
Freman 2:0 Octzerg
Sarens 0:2 Eonzerg

2v2
+ Show Spoiler +
Kenzy + didzz 2:0 Octzerg + dsaqwe

Ace
+ Show Spoiler +
Freman 0:2 Eonzerg



Germany vs Poland

Overall
+ Show Spoiler +
1:3

1v1
+ Show Spoiler +
Vanatir 0:2 Radley
Bakuryu 1:2 Trutacz
remag 2:1 Julia

2v2
+ Show Spoiler +
Drum + reflection 0:2 Trutacz + Radley

Ace
+ Show Spoiler +
none


Hungary vs Blatic United

Overall
+ Show Spoiler +
3:1

1v1
+ Show Spoiler +
alkesz 1-2 v1 @ Chain Reaction
normal 2-0 Disc @ Mist (2nd set w.o)
non 2-0 lipa @ Latin Quarter

2v2
+ Show Spoiler +
disc+ezik 2-0 alkesz+rocco_ht @ Icarus

Ace
+ Show Spoiler +
none

Luv ya BroodWar!
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-13 13:44:18
October 13 2015 10:24 GMT
#449
On October 13 2015 17:58 Freakling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 01:21 _Animus_ wrote:
We will have cast today, with probably the match of the week, France vs European Fusion.
After the sparks between the two teams turned into fire we are looking for nothing but a great match.

Catspaw will provide the commentarry for you.

Live now: http://www.hitbox.tv/lrmcatspaw/

Is there a VOD for this available yet?
Also, have the other matches of last week's been cast/are there VODs for those (I have only seen Rus/Hun and Swe/Can)?

There are vods for all of the matches since week 2. Catspaw soon will update his channel so vods can be visible.
Will post them here.

Still no reps from Baltic vs Hungary 2v2 set.
Luv ya BroodWar!
Shimy
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States771 Posts
October 13 2015 12:46 GMT
#450
On October 12 2015 07:29 GeckoXp wrote:
@ the mode and your incapability to handle criticism:

yes of course the mode helps inactivity. What point is there to show up if your games do not matter? If it was me handling this league for Germany, I'd give France the walk over and do a fun war instead - with other maps, less kind of stress and use as much player slots as possible, as well as the freedom to pick times which suit both teams the best. Or, if France doesn't want to, I'd ask another team with a similar situation, so we get to see more than a merged clan (no offense, still <3 you ZaRaki et al), Poland and Myu's furious Frenchies. Or get in a situation, in which two people make time on a sunday only to realize that - out of the blue - a set was postponed about 20 hours before deadline.

Also

  • R/S Threads usually display R/S and not cryptic nonsense
  • Grids can be done and displayed with various tools, MS Paint is worse than MS Frontpage
  • your English is worse than mine, you're a native, and yet you are bold enough to ask for a leader to "be capable of communicating in English".
  • Geography doesn't matter for this event at all, it could as well be a clan league
  • seriously, you can not invent words, you're not German, that's our thing. We invented a system called "grammar" for that, it also has an add-on called "Phonetics". Your language doesn't.
  • your elimination mode is redundant, as explained in your blog, it could very well lead to positions in which teams play each other THREE TIMES
  • it doesn't make sense to have qualifiers with six teams for a total of twelve teams. Oh sure, let's just re-name it and call it a league with 2,5 play days, because you invent a ton of shit along the way.
  • "9) If you have any questions about the rules, you must contact the organization, not knowing the rules or misinterpreting them is not an excuse." If you actually followed through with this, you would have needed to ban 95% of players in this thread at least once*
  • casters are not hard to come by for you, you got support, don't blame your faults on other people yet again. The casters for this event were superb
  • coverage means coverage. Posting on two different accounts over the course of several weeks is not coverage. Coverage means presentation of information in an understandable way. Holy shit, I understand you might not be in a position to follow through with it, but don't disguise your incompetent ways as excuse.


*
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Edit: Just to be clear, this isn't directed at the casters or animus. This is directed at you. The rest seemed to act a lot more capable.


Who are you again?


Eywa-: "What would it take in order for there to be an upset?" Largo: "The players of sas got cancer and died, what else could happen?"
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-13 22:50:50
October 13 2015 17:34 GMT
#451
Yesterday's VOD:

Week 5
eu European Fusion vs fr France
Casters: Cats Paw
http://www.hitbox.tv/video/721584


Luv ya BroodWar!
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-13 23:16:37
October 13 2015 23:02 GMT
#452
Team Hungary you have 24 hours from now to send the replays from 2v2 set vs Baltic United, otherwise it will lead to reversal of the match.
Ive pmed your captain and also the captain of Baltic united if their players can also provide reps.
Luv ya BroodWar!
EBPNationWars
Profile Blog Joined August 2015
Great Britain245 Posts
October 15 2015 17:06 GMT
#453
Week 5 results post updated
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
October 15 2015 22:58 GMT
#454
Week 5 had Latin Quarter in the map pool.
I enjoyed watching the vod in the post above of European Fusion vs France, thanks for that Cats Paw. The 2v2 in particular was fun, very back and forth. And thanks to the players for actually choosing to play the foreign map; it is encouraging.

To the players:
Let me know if you had any problems on Latin Quarter.
If you have a spare moment, do send me any replays of games that you play on any of the foreign maps.
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
LV-Hellscream
Profile Joined November 2012
Great Britain154 Posts
October 17 2015 09:53 GMT
#455
On October 14 2015 08:02 _Animus_ wrote:
Team Hungary you have 24 hours from now to send the replays from 2v2 set vs Baltic United, otherwise it will lead to reversal of the match.
Ive pmed your captain and also the captain of Baltic united if their players can also provide reps.


if you reverse the match we need to make ACE match?
let me know in skype Hellscream1986
LV-Hellscream
Profile Joined November 2012
Great Britain154 Posts
October 17 2015 09:59 GMT
#456
Please add to Baltic United staes

Yuwo [R] Estonia
gryphy [R] Lithuania
Ron [T] Estonia
creative [Z] Lithuania
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7025 Posts
October 17 2015 10:24 GMT
#457
On October 17 2015 18:59 LV-Hellscream wrote:
Please add to Baltic United staes

Yuwo [R] Estonia
gryphy [R] Lithuania
Ron [T] Estonia
creative [Z] Lithuania

tomorrow is the last nw for you ,no sense to add more players ;;
radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
October 17 2015 12:51 GMT
#458
On October 17 2015 19:24 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2015 18:59 LV-Hellscream wrote:
Please add to Baltic United staes

Yuwo [R] Estonia
gryphy [R] Lithuania
Ron [T] Estonia
creative [Z] Lithuania

tomorrow is the last nw for you ,no sense to add more players ;;


Why you gotta be so rude?
Don't you know they're humans too?
TL+ Member
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
October 18 2015 07:02 GMT
#459
plz add assault (z) to team canada
aka DragOn[NaS]
noname_
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
469 Posts
October 18 2015 09:06 GMT
#460
Any team up to a friendly nw match after/before the scheduled event message me in pm.
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