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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 14:49:10
July 28 2015 13:30 GMT
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 28 2015 13:32 GMT
#2
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Poll: What does your heart say?

Mind (14)
 
61%

Killer (9)
 
39%

23 total votes

Your vote: What does your heart say?

(Vote): Mind
(Vote): Killer



Poll: What does your brain say?

Mind (19)
 
83%

Killer (4)
 
17%

23 total votes

Your vote: What does your brain say?

(Vote): Mind
(Vote): Killer


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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-28 13:49:35
July 28 2015 13:36 GMT
#3
Killer looks pretty solid in his practice sessions with Mong (on Mong's private stream) today.
Should put up a good fight even against best TvZ player Mind

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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 28 2015 13:38 GMT
#4
Intersting facts: Killer is 4-10 against Mind, while both players are #6 and #7 in ELO rankings respectively. Killer has a 55.94% winrate against terran while Mind sports a 77.50% winrate against zergs (even though Kwanro and Hero contribute the most to that)
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 28 2015 13:58 GMT
#5
It's interesting how Killer maintains a higher ELO than Mind despite Mind winning HSL and Killer fumbling all over the place.

I'm hoping Killer will actually put up some resistance but fully expecting a curb stomp by Mind when I catch the vods.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
July 28 2015 14:10 GMT
#6
Most of Killer's statistics are from the beginning of this year and before (especially in 2013/2014 where he dominates with Sea)...this year he has not been playing /streaming regularly unlike the other players. So comparing statistics is pretty moot.

BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 28 2015 14:24 GMT
#7
the reason why I let FlashFTW write the preview for this match is because I could literally only get one line out.

"Zergs are a joke to Mind"
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
July 28 2015 21:39 GMT
#8
hype af
Writer
neteX
Profile Joined April 2015
Sweden285 Posts
July 28 2015 23:47 GMT
#9
mind is disgustingly good imo, hope that he wins this
http://www.twitter.com/neteXLoL flw pls
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
July 29 2015 00:14 GMT
#10
You gotta think it'd be a huge upset if Killer takes Mind down.

Mind might be the only guy who can stop Bisu in this SSL (as he did in the '07 MSL Finals).

User was warned for being hilarious
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 29 2015 00:27 GMT
#11
On July 28 2015 23:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
the reason why I let FlashFTW write the preview for this match is because I could literally only get one line out.

"Zergs are a joke to Mind"

LOL
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 00:56 GMT
#12
On July 29 2015 09:27 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 23:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
the reason why I let FlashFTW write the preview for this match is because I could literally only get one line out.

"Zergs are a joke to Mind"

LOL

I say #notenoughpassion! haha.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 01:15 GMT
#13
On July 29 2015 09:56 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 09:27 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 28 2015 23:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
the reason why I let FlashFTW write the preview for this match is because I could literally only get one line out.

"Zergs are a joke to Mind"

LOL

I say #notenoughpassion! haha.


I got the #PASSHUN, but you can't argue what I said either.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10208 Posts
July 29 2015 01:52 GMT
#14
On July 29 2015 10:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 09:56 BigFan wrote:
On July 29 2015 09:27 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 28 2015 23:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
the reason why I let FlashFTW write the preview for this match is because I could literally only get one line out.

"Zergs are a joke to Mind"

LOL

I say #notenoughpassion! haha.


I got the #PASSHUN, but you can't argue what I said either.

obviously, its is only because i am a superior writer to a veteran such as yourself.
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HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
July 29 2015 02:00 GMT
#15
Bisu vs Mind MSL 2007 rematch in the semis plz.
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 02:24 GMT
#16
On July 29 2015 10:52 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 10:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 29 2015 09:56 BigFan wrote:
On July 29 2015 09:27 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 28 2015 23:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
the reason why I let FlashFTW write the preview for this match is because I could literally only get one line out.

"Zergs are a joke to Mind"

LOL

I say #notenoughpassion! haha.


I got the #PASSHUN, but you can't argue what I said either.

obviously, its is only because i am a superior writer to a veteran such as yourself.


yes, yes you are.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
July 29 2015 03:05 GMT
#17
Teaser video for tonight's match:


Hoping for a fun TvZ series, whether it be aggressive muta all-ins or late game macro galore
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salito
Profile Joined May 2010
1647 Posts
July 29 2015 03:42 GMT
#18
What's the fifth set map?
Nature moves in the shortest way possible.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19276 Posts
July 29 2015 03:47 GMT
#19
On July 29 2015 12:42 salito wrote:
What's the fifth set map?

Neo Jade is first and last map.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 03:52 GMT
#20
did I just see a video of TheMarine from 15 years ago singing?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
July 29 2015 03:58 GMT
#21
Is there no English stream? The show's about to start...
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 04:00 GMT
#22
On July 29 2015 12:58 HyralGambit wrote:
Is there no English stream? The show's about to start...


I pinged them, they're setting up, should be up in 2.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 04:09 GMT
#23
On July 29 2015 10:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 09:56 BigFan wrote:
On July 29 2015 09:27 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 28 2015 23:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
the reason why I let FlashFTW write the preview for this match is because I could literally only get one line out.

"Zergs are a joke to Mind"

LOL

I say #notenoughpassion! haha.


I got the #PASSHUN, but you can't argue what I said either.

hmm fair enough.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 29 2015 04:11 GMT
#24
We're live!

Lets go Killer!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 04:16 GMT
#25
rekt
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
salito
Profile Joined May 2010
1647 Posts
July 29 2015 04:17 GMT
#26
well okay that was easy
Nature moves in the shortest way possible.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
July 29 2015 04:17 GMT
#27
ee han MM timing attack from Mind before the mutas came out.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 04:18 GMT
#28
Poll: Recommend Mind vs Killer Game 1?

No (12)
 
92%

If you have time (1)
 
8%

Yes (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mind vs Killer Game 1?

(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No
(Vote): Yes

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
July 29 2015 04:21 GMT
#29
xkcd mic up!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 04:21 GMT
#30
funny game, even I could've won that!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 04:26 GMT
#31
Let's go Killer!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
July 29 2015 04:30 GMT
#32
Anyone with the translation of those signs?
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
salito
Profile Joined May 2010
1647 Posts
July 29 2015 04:31 GMT
#33
dang a 2 port wraith followup would have been abusive
Nature moves in the shortest way possible.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 04:31 GMT
#34
On July 29 2015 13:30 deathgod6 wrote:
Anyone with the translation of those signs?

would be nice but no KR translators in chat afaik
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
July 29 2015 04:38 GMT
#35
guy with the multiple signs: was at last osl in 2012. held up the banner. good to have bw back.
guy with glasses: came from russia
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13181 Posts
July 29 2015 04:43 GMT
#36
I hope Killer has some good all-ins for the next game because he can't hang with Mind in a straight up game.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 04:45 GMT
#37
On July 29 2015 13:43 RowdierBob wrote:
I hope Killer has some good all-ins for the next game because he can't hang with Mind in a straight up game.

It's like Mind turned on multitasking and Killer just well, lost lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 04:47 GMT
#38
I guess I was too generous in predicting that Killer will even take one game T.T
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
salito
Profile Joined May 2010
1647 Posts
July 29 2015 04:47 GMT
#39
sk terran is dead guys
Nature moves in the shortest way possible.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
July 29 2015 04:47 GMT
#40
damn i thought killer had that one lol

I missed the drop though
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13181 Posts
July 29 2015 04:47 GMT
#41
Killer did well the first couple of battles but Mind's multi-task was too strong the longer the game went.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 04:47 GMT
#42
Poll: Recommend Mind vs Killer Game 2?

Yes (10)
 
77%

If you have time (2)
 
15%

No (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mind vs Killer Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
July 29 2015 04:47 GMT
#43
That marine medic pressure was insane. That was like Fantasy.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
July 29 2015 04:48 GMT
#44
Mind's TvZ is so fun to watch. He reminds me of Flash being able to go for aggressive openings and bring it back as the game goes on.
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
July 29 2015 04:48 GMT
#45
Mind playing the map.

Bisu vs Mind hype
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
salito
Profile Joined May 2010
1647 Posts
July 29 2015 04:48 GMT
#46
On July 29 2015 13:47 deathgod6 wrote:
That marine medic pressure was insane. That was like Fantasy.

Fantasy doesn't really come to mind on the topic of bio TvZ
Nature moves in the shortest way possible.
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
July 29 2015 04:48 GMT
#47
did someone already translate the boxer/yellow/nada ads about that mobile game?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 04:50 GMT
#48
Not yet Bakuryu.

On July 29 2015 13:47 deathgod6 wrote:
That marine medic pressure was insane. That was like Fantasy.

ridiculously insane.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
July 29 2015 04:52 GMT
#49
and i need to get that fanta orange
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 04:55 GMT
#50
Let's go Killer! Don't give up!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
July 29 2015 05:04 GMT
#51
On July 29 2015 13:48 salito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 13:47 deathgod6 wrote:
That marine medic pressure was insane. That was like Fantasy.

Fantasy doesn't really come to mind on the topic of bio TvZ

LOL yeah you're right. I think I just said him because of his harassment style, terrorist terran.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
July 29 2015 05:06 GMT
#52
--- Nuked ---
Writer
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
July 29 2015 05:07 GMT
#53
I feel like maybe that didn't do enough damage to justify throwing away all the mutas
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
July 29 2015 05:07 GMT
#54
that was some sick target turret micro from mind there
Commentator
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
July 29 2015 05:09 GMT
#55
On July 29 2015 14:06 Ty2 wrote:
Killer's getting humped pretty bad this series. I think his mindset is bad and yah you can acknowledge that ZvT is your worst matchup but I feel like that's synonymous with feeling like it's bad so you end up playing bad. Jaedong, Killer's mentor wouldn't think like this. Avoiding Terran for a tournament run isn't realistic.


can't really blame killer when he has not practice/play regularly (thanks to IRL stuff) compared to his opponent
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 05:16 GMT
#56
LOL KILLER NO CRACK
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 05:20 GMT
#57
lol killer get crack pls
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
July 29 2015 05:20 GMT
#58
Feels like Mind's multitask is not up to maintaining control of a game like this.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 05:23 GMT
#59
YOU CAN'T A MOVE VS TURTLE MECH KILLER LOSE MORE PLEASE!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5642 Posts
July 29 2015 05:23 GMT
#60
He should fucking drop or attack the bottom expansions. Not waste army like that...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 05:23 GMT
#61
On July 29 2015 14:20 gngfn wrote:
Feels like Mind's multitask is not up to maintaining control of a game like this.


killer's multitask is non-existant tho.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 05:24 GMT
#62
theres no need to multitask as a turtle mech.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 05:25:20
July 29 2015 05:24 GMT
#63
On July 29 2015 14:23 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 14:20 gngfn wrote:
Feels like Mind's multitask is not up to maintaining control of a game like this.


killer's multitask is non-existant tho.

It was weird because Mind was losing because he just had his units sitting out in the open and he wasn't really microing them, so then he moved them behind buildings and continued not really microing them but it didn't occur to Killer that he should maybe drop or do anything other than a-moving his units up ramps

And you definitely need to be active with vultures to survive the part of mech before you have 40 tanks.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5642 Posts
July 29 2015 05:31 GMT
#64
Killer looked as if he had never played mech before... WTF...
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
July 29 2015 05:31 GMT
#65
lol killer loves to a-move
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 05:31 GMT
#66
Poll: Recommend Mind vs Killer Game 3?

If you have time (6)
 
43%

No (5)
 
36%

Yes (3)
 
21%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mind vs Killer Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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Archaeo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States397 Posts
July 29 2015 05:32 GMT
#67
Are you kidding me Killer? Simple drops could have easily handled that.
Yo my chingu!!!
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
July 29 2015 05:32 GMT
#68
Sick hold from Mind. Killer should have secured his expos with sunkens and then taken the middle bases. Killer let Mind regain the bottom center base and suicided his units to try and finish the game instead of securing his lead.
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
July 29 2015 05:32 GMT
#69
time for killer to disappear once again...until er, KSL?

Bisu vs Mind HWAITING
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
July 29 2015 05:33 GMT
#70
Bisu vs Mind hype
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iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
July 29 2015 05:33 GMT
#71
That was pretty bad by Killer, should've used some guardians or at least mixed in some defilers with the ultraling a-move
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 05:33 GMT
#72
No crack no win.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 05:34 GMT
#73
On July 29 2015 14:32 Archaeo wrote:
Are you kidding me Killer? Simple drops could have easily handled that.


just getting crack would have sufficed.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 05:35 GMT
#74
Horrible game by Killer. My god... why would you keep attacking up ramps when you realize that you zerglings are dying so easily? If he grouped and hit Mind's 5 and 6, he could've denied mining and Mind would've went down to 1-2 bases max. No swarms, terrible engagements and worst way to throw units since forever?
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19276 Posts
July 29 2015 05:39 GMT
#75
[image loading]

Wow!
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 05:40 GMT
#76
^ wow, lol.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 05:40 GMT
#77
On July 29 2015 14:39 BisuDagger wrote:
[image loading]

Wow!


wat
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repomaniak
Profile Joined January 2009
Poland324 Posts
July 29 2015 05:40 GMT
#78
there was 1 player who "forget" adrenal constantly

this was savior
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
July 29 2015 05:41 GMT
#79
On July 29 2015 14:39 BisuDagger wrote:
[image loading]

Wow!

I feel sad seeing this. How can people be this...
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 29 2015 05:41 GMT
#80
Looks like I was right haha.

Bisu vs Mind fuck yeah!

Wow GG LB
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 05:42 GMT
#81
I mean even SC2 people would have at least looked at their TLPD and would have been like "dude this guy has 80% TvZ no way hes gonna lose"
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
July 29 2015 05:45 GMT
#82
On July 29 2015 14:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I mean even SC2 people would have at least looked at their TLPD and would have been like "dude this guy has 80% TvZ no way hes gonna lose"


the "stats" button in the LB pages link to their old Kespa statistics, not to the SOSPA one.
so they would see Mind's average 50% winrate instead
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
July 29 2015 05:46 GMT
#83
[image loading]

New Heartbreak Ridge
Circuit Breaker
La Mancha
Neo Jade
New Heartbreak Ridge

Looking forward to it!
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 05:46:40
July 29 2015 05:46 GMT
#84
On July 29 2015 14:40 repomaniak wrote:
there was 1 player who "forget" adrenal constantly

this was savior

I don't really understand the purpose of this post? What are you trying to imply? That Killer purposely forgot adrenal glands?
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 29 2015 05:46 GMT
#85
Hmm so much for the rise of Zerg.
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
July 29 2015 05:47 GMT
#86
On July 29 2015 14:46 c3rberUs wrote:
Hmm so much for the rise of Zerg.


hero would reach the finals, Mong actually lost to Killer in practice games yesterday.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 05:48 GMT
#87
On July 29 2015 14:46 c3rberUs wrote:
Hmm so much for the rise of Zerg.


killer doesn't count, we still have hero tho.
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HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
July 29 2015 05:52 GMT
#88
On July 29 2015 14:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 14:46 c3rberUs wrote:
Hmm so much for the rise of Zerg.


killer doesn't count, we still have hero tho.

What if all the Zergs die in Ro8 like how all the Zergs died in Ro16 last time?

And then we have PvP finals...
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 05:53 GMT
#89
On July 29 2015 14:52 HyralGambit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 14:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 29 2015 14:46 c3rberUs wrote:
Hmm so much for the rise of Zerg.


killer doesn't count, we still have hero tho.

What if all the Zergs die in Ro8 like how all the Zergs died in Ro16 last time?

And then we have PvP finals...


don't say such things.
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
July 29 2015 05:53 GMT
#90
On July 29 2015 14:52 HyralGambit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 14:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 29 2015 14:46 c3rberUs wrote:
Hmm so much for the rise of Zerg.


killer doesn't count, we still have hero tho.

What if all the Zergs die in Ro8 like how all the Zergs died in Ro16 last time?

And then we have PvP finals...


Good. Movie will finally win an OSL
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
July 29 2015 05:53 GMT
#91
Are Mind and Bisu the consensus top two players now?
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
July 29 2015 05:54 GMT
#92
On July 29 2015 14:53 iamho wrote:
Are Mind and Bisu the consensus top two players now?


Since Mind patched up his TvT to trounce Ssak 3-0 this tourney, i would say yes.
hero comes a close 3rd
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 05:57:54
July 29 2015 05:56 GMT
#93
Very much agree with above.

If Mind takes out Bisu and gets slotted vs Hero. SMH. Zerg will not win yet again.

I feel like we need that sAviOr moment (not the matchfixing one, the vs. NaDa one.)
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 05:56 GMT
#94
On July 29 2015 14:53 iamho wrote:
Are Mind and Bisu the consensus top two players now?

yes. They are both strong at the various matchups and whoever wins their game has a greater chance of winning all of SSL11.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19276 Posts
July 29 2015 06:00 GMT
#95
Mind is a patch Terran. He won't have such a good record after the next blizzard patch.
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HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
July 29 2015 06:04 GMT
#96
On July 29 2015 15:00 BisuDagger wrote:
Mind is a patch Terran. He won't have such a good record after the next blizzard patch.

Like how Sea is a Fighting Spirit Terran? :p
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 06:06 GMT
#97
On July 29 2015 15:00 BisuDagger wrote:
Mind is a patch Terran. He won't have such a good record after the next blizzard patch.

BD already starting to complain knowing that Bisu will get 3-0'd by Mind next series! :D
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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 06:10:53
July 29 2015 06:08 GMT
#98
Speedy work by DES --
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http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2015072914371240763

I did not expect the 3-0 result today, but I was fortunate to score the victory. Would have preferred to meet Bisu in the finals, but I'll be preparing hard. The map selection is not in Terran's favor, it will be a challenge, especially if we see Heartbreak Ridge 2 of the 5 sets. Glad to see so many people coming out to watch, big thanks for everyone's support. Playing Bisu in the SF under the bright lights and on the big stage will be lots of fun and excitement. I hope to maintain the momentum I've built from these earlier rounds.
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 06:09:57
July 29 2015 06:09 GMT
#99
On July 29 2015 15:00 BisuDagger wrote:
Mind is a patch Terran. He won't have such a good record after the next blizzard patch.

This statement is bannable iirc. Mods pls. xD

So fast! Thanks prech.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19276 Posts
July 29 2015 06:11 GMT
#100
On July 29 2015 15:09 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 15:00 BisuDagger wrote:
Mind is a patch Terran. He won't have such a good record after the next blizzard patch.

This statement is bannable iirc. Mods pls. xD

So fast! Thanks prech.

Having trouble finding that "report" button are you?
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17730 Posts
July 29 2015 06:13 GMT
#101
I'm not surprised that Mind won but didn't predict a 3-0...
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 06:15 GMT
#102
Thanks prech. Guess he figured that Killer will make it closer.

On July 29 2015 15:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 15:09 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 29 2015 15:00 BisuDagger wrote:
Mind is a patch Terran. He won't have such a good record after the next blizzard patch.

This statement is bannable iirc. Mods pls. xD

So fast! Thanks prech.

Having trouble finding that "report" button are you?

lol. All he has to do is ask 2pac to ban or pm a mod! :D
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10208 Posts
July 29 2015 06:29 GMT
#103
On July 29 2015 11:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 10:52 FlaShFTW wrote:
On July 29 2015 10:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 29 2015 09:56 BigFan wrote:
On July 29 2015 09:27 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 28 2015 23:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
the reason why I let FlashFTW write the preview for this match is because I could literally only get one line out.

"Zergs are a joke to Mind"

LOL

I say #notenoughpassion! haha.


I got the #PASSHUN, but you can't argue what I said either.

obviously, its is only because i am a superior writer to a veteran such as yourself.


yes, yes you are.

... I concede. I officially quit writing for TL now.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 29 2015 06:36 GMT
#104
On July 29 2015 15:29 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 11:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 29 2015 10:52 FlaShFTW wrote:
On July 29 2015 10:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 29 2015 09:56 BigFan wrote:
On July 29 2015 09:27 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 28 2015 23:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
the reason why I let FlashFTW write the preview for this match is because I could literally only get one line out.

"Zergs are a joke to Mind"

LOL

I say #notenoughpassion! haha.


I got the #PASSHUN, but you can't argue what I said either.

obviously, its is only because i am a superior writer to a veteran such as yourself.


yes, yes you are.

... I concede. I officially quit writing for TL now.


hahahaha don't make my work load bigger.
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 29 2015 07:20 GMT
#105
On July 29 2015 15:15 BigFan wrote:
Thanks prech. Guess he figured that Killer will make it closer.

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 15:11 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 29 2015 15:09 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 29 2015 15:00 BisuDagger wrote:
Mind is a patch Terran. He won't have such a good record after the next blizzard patch.

This statement is bannable iirc. Mods pls. xD

So fast! Thanks prech.

Having trouble finding that "report" button are you?

lol. All he has to do is ask 2pac to ban or pm a mod! :D

Unless BD gives me some LB pointsWhy would I report someone as respected as BD? I can let this slide. haha
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
July 29 2015 09:56 GMT
#106
Poor Killer. Threw everything but the kitchen sink at Mind in Game 3, and still couldn't break him.

Mind is simply all that in TvZ.



User was warned for being hilarious
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5642 Posts
July 29 2015 10:10 GMT
#107
On July 29 2015 18:56 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Poor Killer. Threw everything but the kitchen sink at Mind in Game 3, and still couldn't break him.

Mind is simply all that in TvZ.



Very bad decision making is what cost him the game. He threw everything, including the game itself...
reminisce12
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia318 Posts
July 29 2015 10:35 GMT
#108
holy shit killer is so bad... no crack.. no defilers.. throwing away so many units against a wall.
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
July 29 2015 12:52 GMT
#109
On July 29 2015 19:35 reminisce12 wrote:
holy shit killer is so bad... no crack.. no defilers.. throwing away so many units against a wall.

And yet he got to the Ro8.


User was warned for being hilarious
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
July 29 2015 12:55 GMT
#110
So then... does Mong beat Hero this weekend, to make it a total clean-sweep of all remaining Zergs?

User was warned for being hilarious
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19276 Posts
July 29 2015 13:06 GMT
#111
On July 29 2015 21:52 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 19:35 reminisce12 wrote:
holy shit killer is so bad... no crack.. no defilers.. throwing away so many units against a wall.

And yet he got to the Ro8.



Against arguably weak competition. :D
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reminisce12
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia318 Posts
July 29 2015 14:31 GMT
#112
On July 29 2015 22:06 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 21:52 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On July 29 2015 19:35 reminisce12 wrote:
holy shit killer is so bad... no crack.. no defilers.. throwing away so many units against a wall.

And yet he got to the Ro8.



Against arguably weak competition. :D


I think its that but I also think its the lack of coaches too. killer wont even know he didnt upgrade crack going home today.
on top of that there's no one there to help them strategize.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 29 2015 14:40 GMT
#113
Killer's micro and macro are still decent overall though. Watch his last games or just read the recap/see gif in the last SSL11 writeup. I think in that last game, he started to focus heavily on macro which was why you kept seeing a ton of zerg units streaming towards Mind's bases for a good 5 minutes or so. He probably figured that Mind wouldn't be able to defend considering he already had to lift his base at 8, had to abandon his natural and move everything into the mains of each base and that he'll break his soon which it looked like it at one point.

In hindsight, it looked like it was a decent move, but, Mind didn't sit back and take it. He killed all the drones at two of Killer's bases and mined a lot of the area that the zerglings are coming through allowing him to defend against their numbers. So, while I think Killer played a terrible game when he started doing that, I can understand why he made such a move. As for upgrading crack, we've seen pros make these kind of mistakes back in the professional BW days. Ex. Stork forgetting goon range.
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 29 2015 14:48 GMT
#114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BK1x_Gr-2w
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 17:36:21
July 29 2015 15:59 GMT
#115
On July 29 2015 23:48 amazingxkcd wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BK1x_Gr-2w


thanks but you're talking too quickly and softly compared to BisuDagger and it's so hard to listen to you.

edit: in game 2 your volume was louder and it's better

terrible series by killer.

g2 shouldn't have been that bad (or "good") with some scourges patrolling
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 16:10:43
July 29 2015 16:09 GMT
#116
On July 30 2015 00:59 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 23:48 amazingxkcd wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BK1x_Gr-2w


thanks but you're talking too quickly and softly compared to BisuDagger and it's so hard to listen to you.ch

edit: in game 2 your volume was louder and it's better


You just need to get used XKCD's sexy accent! 1st time I heard it I said myself: "WTF, why is he even casting with that grumbling voice", but I really love it now.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 17:53:06
July 29 2015 17:46 GMT
#117
On July 29 2015 23:40 BigFan wrote:
Killer's micro and macro are still decent overall though. Watch his last games or just read the recap/see gif in the last SSL11 writeup. I think in that last game, he started to focus heavily on macro which was why you kept seeing a ton of zerg units streaming towards Mind's bases for a good 5 minutes or so. He probably figured that Mind wouldn't be able to defend considering he already had to lift his base at 8, had to abandon his natural and move everything into the mains of each base and that he'll break his soon which it looked like it at one point.

In hindsight, it looked like it was a decent move, but, Mind didn't sit back and take it. He killed all the drones at two of Killer's bases and mined a lot of the area that the zerglings are coming through allowing him to defend against their numbers. So, while I think Killer played a terrible game when he started doing that, I can understand why he made such a move. As for upgrading crack, we've seen pros make these kind of mistakes back in the professional BW days. Ex. Stork forgetting goon range.


there's no way to rationalise this. killer fumbled big time and did so many stupid things late game in g3.. and in the entire series actually. (no scourge in g2)

he deserved to get 3-0'd


On July 30 2015 01:09 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 00:59 JieXian wrote:
On July 29 2015 23:48 amazingxkcd wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BK1x_Gr-2w


thanks but you're talking too quickly and softly compared to BisuDagger and it's so hard to listen to you.ch

edit: in game 2 your volume was louder and it's better


You just need to get used XKCD's sexy accent! 1st time I heard it I said myself: "WTF, why is he even casting with that grumbling voice", but I really love it now.



once the volume was raised in g2 onwards I understood him fine
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 18:33:25
July 29 2015 18:33 GMT
#118
On July 30 2015 02:46 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 23:40 BigFan wrote:
Killer's micro and macro are still decent overall though. Watch his last games or just read the recap/see gif in the last SSL11 writeup. I think in that last game, he started to focus heavily on macro which was why you kept seeing a ton of zerg units streaming towards Mind's bases for a good 5 minutes or so. He probably figured that Mind wouldn't be able to defend considering he already had to lift his base at 8, had to abandon his natural and move everything into the mains of each base and that he'll break his soon which it looked like it at one point.

In hindsight, it looked like it was a decent move, but, Mind didn't sit back and take it. He killed all the drones at two of Killer's bases and mined a lot of the area that the zerglings are coming through allowing him to defend against their numbers. So, while I think Killer played a terrible game when he started doing that, I can understand why he made such a move. As for upgrading crack, we've seen pros make these kind of mistakes back in the professional BW days. Ex. Stork forgetting goon range.


there's no way to rationalise this. killer fumbled big time and did so many stupid things late game in g3.. and in the entire series actually. (no scourge in g2)

he deserved to get 3-0'd


Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 01:09 outscar wrote:
On July 30 2015 00:59 JieXian wrote:
On July 29 2015 23:48 amazingxkcd wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BK1x_Gr-2w


thanks but you're talking too quickly and softly compared to BisuDagger and it's so hard to listen to you.ch

edit: in game 2 your volume was louder and it's better


You just need to get used XKCD's sexy accent! 1st time I heard it I said myself: "WTF, why is he even casting with that grumbling voice", but I really love it now.



once the volume was raised in g2 onwards I understood him fine

no, I disagree. His behaviour in game is very easy to rationalize if you look at the position he was in. Re-read my post above to see my point. If you still disagree, well, it's your call so let's agree to disagree then.
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
July 29 2015 22:27 GMT
#119
On July 29 2015 22:06 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 21:52 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On July 29 2015 19:35 reminisce12 wrote:
holy shit killer is so bad... no crack.. no defilers.. throwing away so many units against a wall.

And yet he got to the Ro8.



Against arguably weak competition. :D


Maybe to some extent, but if so, that's not Killer's fault. He can only play who's in front of him.

I also think Mind makes a lot of players look worse than they are. He and Bisu are pretty much the class of this field.


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deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
July 30 2015 03:45 GMT
#120
If you think about it, Mind's proxy rax was genius on HBR. From the previous Killer game, he saw that Killer had insane 2 hatch muta pressure vs Last on that map. With the proxy rax and Mind threatening wraiths and mech, Killer was forced to go into hydra tech.
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reminisce12
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia318 Posts
July 30 2015 04:03 GMT
#121
On July 30 2015 12:45 deathgod6 wrote:
If you think about it, Mind's proxy rax was genius on HBR. From the previous Killer game, he saw that Killer had insane 2 hatch muta pressure vs Last on that map. With the proxy rax and Mind threatening wraiths and mech, Killer was forced to go into hydra tech.


except killer scouted all the rax with scourges, he shouldve stopped making mass hydras vs bio.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
July 30 2015 12:59 GMT
#122
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8560 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-30 16:51:56
July 30 2015 16:05 GMT
#123
Just watching the VoD's. Game 2 started out great. But then Killer messed up and didn't expand. I don't understand why he didn't expand when he cleaned up Mind's first big push. Mind had nothing to prevent it.

Killer in Game 3:

"I finally understand why people are saying you need to get swarm in ZvT. I just swarm the terran all day, this is awesome."

20 minutes later:

"Hm, this didn't work. Why?"
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